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Baseball...of the FUTURE!

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Welcome....to the wooooooooooorld of tomorrow!

 

As inspired by a little ditty in the recent Cardinals thread, I find myself wonder how, if at all, baseball will change in the future.  This thought was brought about by a discussion on Vintage Base Ball, and how much fun it would be to play.

What is Vintage Base Ball, you ask?  It's what happens when you take Civil War reenactments and baseball, and mash them together.  Vintage Base Ball is about playing the game we all think we know and love, but playing it by antiquated rule sets.  Not only do teams play by the old rules (such as a catch off one bounce can be an out) but they attempt to dress the part as accurately as possible.  That means more likely than not you're going to end up looking like this fine fellow:

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The point of all this isn't simply to just play the game and play it well, but to also be authentic as possible.  Some teams use slang from the time, or their "spectators" wear authentic clothing as well.  Essentially it's an excuse to play a great game and dress up, and assumedly eat as well.  I mean, that's totally what I would do if I ran a team.

There are Vintage Base Ball teams in the Valley: the ill-named Bisbee Bees, the Phoenix Senators, and I've heard rumors of Black and Red stockings.  Or maybe one was Blue.  Irregardless, there are teams of this nature in the area, and all over the nation, playing this beautiful game from a more simple time.

Between them and the Major Leagues, however, all of baseball is surely covered, is it not?  Yes, which is why instead I cast my eye foward.  Into...the future.

Now personally I don't mind if we just want to playfully wonder what the future might bring to this game, but I think it would be fun to also come up with what the game might be like in an attempt to do what Vintage Base Ball does: dress up, play a game, and have a good time.

So how would the future game play?  Are there stupid or outdated rules that our wiser decendents will abolish?  What is the fashion?  Do fans still go to the games or is everything on tv now?  Have robots overtaken the game, or has it morphed into something completely different like blurnsball?

(And yes, I still have the info for the eventual Snakepit softball game.  I'm still trying to figure out when would be the best time, and the best logistics.  Most likely I'll just post a new thread with a few possible dates in the next couple weeks)


 


 

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I wouldn't

be surprised (and this is pure conjecture) if eventually live attendance of games was eventually phased out. With increasingly better HDTV and sound systems, and the rising prices of tickets, food, and travel, it’s more affordable to just stay at home. Even if all the games were eventually on a paid specialty channel, it still would probably be cheaper to stay at home.

Yes, the atmosphere of attending a game is impossible to replicate at home, but imagine a scenario where a fan could eventually buy a package where they’re right behind homeplate. Maybe instead of a normal projection tv, curved screens with multiple projectors will make it seem like we’re watching it 3D. Add piped in sound and it could be a pretty cool experience. Maybe teams or the league sell “skins” that you can buy to change what stadium it looks like you’re watching. That would be kind of cool.

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by soco on Jan 18, 2009 11:20 PM EST reply actions  

This post was a total disappointment, soco.

I opened it, expecting to find information about baseball in the future, and instead, all I get is a bunch of ill-informed opinion and info on Vintage Base Ball.

"Of course, it’s downright frightening to imagine how two Adam Dunns would turn the double play." - Joe Posnanski

by DbacksSkins on Jan 19, 2009 1:07 AM EST reply actions  

Thank you

for your helpful post.

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by soco on Jan 19, 2009 7:08 AM EST up reply actions  

What?

I was hoping for a real look into the future, via some kind of palantir or something.

"Of course, it’s downright frightening to imagine how two Adam Dunns would turn the double play." - Joe Posnanski

by DbacksSkins on Jan 19, 2009 10:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Mang

I don’t have that kind of power.

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by soco on Jan 19, 2009 5:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah

Gandalf totally steals all the good magic items before we can use ’em. What a jerk.

"Kurt Warner's career has died and been resurrected more times than Jean Grey, so it's pretty fitting that he ends up in Phoenix."

by kishi on Jan 20, 2009 2:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Except

for the pipeweed.

"Of course, it’s downright frightening to imagine how two Adam Dunns would turn the double play." - Joe Posnanski

by DbacksSkins on Jan 20, 2009 2:36 AM EST up reply actions  

In all seriousness, though, here's what I see:

1. Find a way to shorten games — like the NFL has done in recent years.

2. Clarify and simplify the balk rule. It’s ridiculous how obscure and ambiguous that rule is.

3. Some future commissioner will take it upon himself to standardize the rules across the league — either all pitchers will have to hit, or (more likely) the designated hitter will be shoved down the National League’s throat.

4. Do away with the pointless “this time it counts” aspect of the All Star Game, and return to alternating home field advantages each year. Or else give World Series teams HFA based on each league’s overall interleague performance, or each team’s final record during the regular season. But you can’t base HFA on a meaningless exhibition game in the middle of the season — by that time, many All Stars will undoubtedly be playing for teams with little or no realistic chance to contend. If you want to make sure the 2002 Midsummer Classic debacle doesn’t happen again, then ban ties.

"Of course, it’s downright frightening to imagine how two Adam Dunns would turn the double play." - Joe Posnanski

by DbacksSkins on Jan 19, 2009 10:44 AM EST reply actions  

Back on the topic...

[though I had wondered where the Fanshot went!] I am probably more surprised how *little8 the game of baseball has changed since it was originally created. The basics, such as the distance between the bases, is the same now as in Doubleday’s time, though obviously there have been modifications. Generally, these have been to keep the balance between pitchers and hitters level: I dread to think what the game would be like if hitters still had to get eight balls for a walk!

How baseball will adapt in future depends on that balance. Nutrition, training and medicine will continue to improve, but will it favor batters or hurlers more? My instinct is probably pitchers. The increase in average height, for example, definitely helps pitchers, who get to deliver the ball from closer to the plate, while it may be somewhat counterproductive for a hitter, since it leads to a bigger strike-zone they need to cover. I don’t think they’ll move the mound back but it could certainly be lowered. It’ll take someone posting a Gibsonesque ERA for that to happen though.

In terms of speeding up the game, I think they could probably do some things like waive the need to throw four wide ones when delivering an intentional walk. Perhaps restrict the number of times a pitcher throws over to first, while you’re at it: this especially irritates me, when it’s clear he’s only doing it, in order to give the bullpen additional time to get warmed up.

Enforcing the current rules on time between pitches, and batters who wander around home-plate before every at-bat, would be more effective than adding any new rules in this area. I don’t want them to speed the game up too much, however. Part of the appeal is definitely the rhythm: I find it very hard to watch a game on fast-forward. However, complaints about the speed of the game are hardly new:

The time has come to straighten out baseball. It is an exceedingly slow game full of dead spots and ridiculous delays — what in show business are called stage waits. It is especially dull when you watch it on TV.

 — Rex Lardner New York Times Magazine, July 25, 1967.

More generally, I can see MLB expanding beyond North America: Japan and Central America probably being the most obvious first destinations. Scheduling might become tricky, because of the additional travel, so this could lead either to fewer games, or spreading them over a slightly-longer season, to give more off-days.

I can see coverage becoming even more complete: watching things like Don Larsen’s perfect game on the MLB Network, the chasm between how games were televised then and now was the most striking change, more so than the game itself. Eventually, you’ll be able to choose the location you want to watch the game from, and the appropriate image will be streamed to your TV. Someday, they’ll have cameras inside the bat and the ball – as well as, probably, in the caps, the same way they do with QB helmets occasionally. That way, you can experience the game from the POV of a player.

Sponorship will become more prevalent and obvious: the Spiderman bases controversy of a few years back will eventually seem quaint. We already have it in Japan, where team names are company-oriented, and we will follow suit in America, some time. It may take a while before players look like NASCAR drivers, but I think it’ll happen sooner or later.

Just a few random thoughts, but I don’t think there’ll be anything radical. We can still watch vintage footage from almost a hundred years ago, and the sport is still immediately recognizable. I don’t think there’s anything major that needs fixing, so I imagine in 100 years, we’ll still be seeing much the same game.

by Jim McLennan on Jan 20, 2009 7:06 AM EST reply actions  

I agree

about the sponsorships. It’s only a matter of time before American sports take a page from the football leagues around the world and start putting sponsors on their jerseys.

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by soco on Jan 20, 2009 8:23 AM EST up reply actions  

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