Diamondbacks 2, Giants 6 - The Silence of the Tims
Record: 71-72. Pace: 80-82. Change on last season: -9
Elimination number: 18. Playoff odds: not good.
I know the Diamondbacks offense has been rancid over the past couple of weeks, now averaging barely three runs per game over the last fourteen. But I have to say, Tim Lincecum's performance tonight was still a dominating one - if it had been against anyone else, it would have been nothing but a genuine pleasure to watch. Even being on the receiving end, I had to admire the ruthless efficiency with which he dismantled the Arizona line-up. It was like watching a shark pick apart a dead whale, cruising around, then suddenly, bang, striking before going back to circling menacingly. Even St. Penelope couldn't save us from this one.
On the basis of this outing - dominating for eight innings before eventually tiring in the ninth - it'll be hard to argue if Tim Lincecum does indeed take the Cy Young award from Webb. The victory lets him run his record to 16-3, with an ERA of 2.54. That compares to Brandon Webb, who has a 19-7 record but his ERA is now up at 3.41. Even taking into account the park factors, that is a chasm in ERA that Webb's extra three victories don't bridge, in my opinion. Each man should have four more starts down the stretch, but from it being Webb's award to lose, the balance appears to have shifted drastically, to the point where it is now Lincecum's.
It's somewhat stunning to think that nine players were picked in the draft before Lincecum went to the Giants with the tenth selection. If he'd fallen one more spot, he'd have been available for the Diamondbacks to choose with their pick [instead, we had Max Scherzer]. Just for amusement, here are the stats in the majors this year of the six pitchers chosen ahead of Lincecum and Scherzer, along with those two arms:
#1: Luke Hochevar (KC, Age 24): 6-12, 5.51 ERA
#2: Greg Reynolds (COL, 22): 2-6, 6.71 ERA
#4: Brad Lincoln (PIT, 23): Not reached majors
#5: Brandon Morrow (SEA, 23): 2-2, 1.42 ERA (in relief)
#6: Andrew Miller (FLA, 23): 5-9, 5.56
#7: Clayton Kershaw (LA, 20): 3-5, 4.60
#10: Tim Lincecum (SF, 24): 16-3, 2.54
#11: Max Scherzer (AZ, 23): 0-2, 3.00
We were in this game for exactly two innings, with the Giants scoring five times in the third. Three straight singles to lead off the inning pushed the first run across the plate - and even at that early stage, I was wondering whether we would even be able to get that single score against Lincecum. Molina then rendered the entire question moot, with a three-run homer that just made it over the wall [not that this makes it count any less, of course]. Petit then loaded the bases again, walked in a run and was finally pulled, but I imagine that Scherzer will be the fifth starter in the rotation, as and when needed from now on.
There was absolutely no way Arizona was going to come back from that, and it was another in the long, ongoing series of failures by our starting rotation. In the past fourteen games, the team has gone 3-11: frankly, I'm not quite sure how we managed to get three victories, given our starting pitchers are 1-8 with an ERA north of 7.50 over that time. The bullpen was forced into another lengthy mop-up outing, and performed credibly, with only one run allowed in 5.1 innings, between Rosales, Buckner, Peguero and Slaten, who gave up four hits and one walk. Mark Reynolds made a very nice diving stab of a foul-ball, which ended the third inning without any further damage. Though since that was the eleventh batter sent to the plate by the Giants in the frame...
Mark Reynolds had the only real success against Lincecum, getting two hits and also having one of our two walks. The other went to Augie Ojeda, who also had a hit. But through the first eight innings, Lincecum simply dominated our hitters, with just five hits and a walk: he struck out nine batters, including Adam Dunn on three occasions. His change-up was devastating, causing a horrendous number of swings and misses and we also seemed to be taking the fastballs. It was only in the ninth that the team finally broke through, Jamie D'Antona notching his first major-league RBI with a ground-out after Lincecum had left the game with the bases loaded. An error allowed another run to score, but Upton ended the game, taking two strikes and then waving feebly at strike three out of the zone.

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Master of his domain: Leo Rosales, +2.7%
God-emperor of suck: Yusmeiro Petit, -27.8%
Well, at least the Dodgers lost too... They were shut out by the Padres 4-0, so we didn't fall any further behind them. That's hardly any real comfort, as the Diamondbacks continue to fail in almost every aspect of the game. The Gameday Thread was a frail thing, with interest that basically evaporated after the third inning, for obvious reasons. Present were: Shums, unnamedDBacksfan, Azreous, TwinnerA, kishi, LucaMaz3, Diamondhacks, njjohn, soco, Scrbl, foulpole, damdrs1717, victor frankenstein. Thanks to them for their contributions. We'll see what tomorrow brings.
And now, I see that my Internet connection has committed suicide.
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Cy Young
Webb has not chance. he has totally melted down. If he takes second it will be a miracle. The only thing Webb had over Lincecum was Wins and that he was on a meaningful team…..neither are deciding factors anymore.
Lincecum has it pretty locked up i think.
Webb's still in the race
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080908&content_id=3438137&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb
With 4 more starts and the chance to reach as many as 23 wins, and if he should reach 21 or 22, I still think he would be favored over Lincecum who can win no more than 20. Obviously, if Webb continues to struggle and just makes it to 20 and Lincecum is at 19 or 20, it’s Lincecum’s. I am keeping the faith though that Webb will turn it around and soon!
Wins define pitching prowess , fer shurr.
Those “position players” are just there to keep them off the streets and out of trouble.
I guess a lot of folk were put off by Lincecum’s mechanics and felt that they’d be drafting a pitcher headed for the DL.
"Ain't got a hope in Hell - that's my belief." - Bon Scott
by victor frankenstein on Sep 9, 2008 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions
W's certainly dont exhaust our measure of pitchers'
performance, neither do I think they’re entirely meaningless. I’d certainly agree Lincecum has deservedly grabbed the CYA pole position, but one thread of his support which I think rings kinda hollow is this business (not from you, but from others) of how uniquely amazing it is to be 16-3 for such a crappy team (relative to Brandon’s 19-7). Mark Grace, in particular, was drumming this home after the ballgame pretty hard.
This “crappy” SF team has furnished Tim with slightly better run support than Webb, after park adjs, and as far as I can measure, these teams look like a wash defensively:
Def Efficiency AZ (11th in NL) SF (13th)
,,,but SF has turned a few more DPs and made a few less errors.
Neither pitcher was credited with a “cheap” win and both have one so called “tough loss”, again, per ESPN stats.
I guess I bring this up in light of your comment:
Those "position players" are just there to keep them off the streets and out of trouble.
I get your drift, I really do, but wouldnt want anyone to draw from this general (and amusingly sarcastic) truth that Webb, by virtue of his team’s superior record has automatically received better support than Lincecum this year. I’m not at all sure that he has
We did a game day thread
once where we talked about anything but the game. Maybe we should have a Mime night thread and see how that goes?
Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong.
by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 9, 2008 5:14 PM EDT reply actions
You mean
nobody says anything at all?
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
tongue in cheek, skins
without a lot of graphics, i don’t think it’d work to well.
Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong.
by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 9, 2008 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Well,
what we’re doing right now IS NOT working. We have to do SOMETHING different.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
We had that going for a while on Sun.
when kishi thought the game started at 5 p.m. and there was no Gameday thread at all. I was going crazy wondering if everyone had just decided ahead of time to forego any thread at all and I failed to get the memo.
Hmm
We were leading when I started the thread. Maybe that was my mistake…
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
Obviously BoMel's philosophy, because he seems to think belief is more effective than good pitching, hitting, or defense.
That's how McCovey Chronicles threads are consistently so high.
Quantity>quality…we blather on about nothing.
But we hardly notice because we’re all trying to drink the pain away.
"Ain't got a hope in Hell - that's my belief." - Bon Scott
by victor frankenstein on Sep 9, 2008 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions

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