Gameday Thread, #141: 9/6 vs. Dodgers
by kishi on Sep 6, 2008 3:06 PM EDT
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Today marks the tenth anniversary of the death of Akira Kurosawa, one of the most legendary directors of all time. Even if you haven't seen one of Kurosawa's films (Rashomon, Ran, The Hidden Fortress) you've seen a film heavily influenced by his work- The Magnificent Seven, Fistful of Dollars, and a little film called Star Wars: A New Hope all take storyline cues from some of his work. The man made some amazing, influential films, and the world of cinema is better for his life and work.
So why do I spend a paragraph on the work of Kurosawa, rather than on the upcoming pitching match-up? Well, because I can't help but look at the game today, and think about Seven Samurai. You look at how this season is shaping up, and where we stand- lead down to a half game, our aces struggling, the Dodgers ready the final strike- and I can't help but feel like this is a fateful showdown. We, the fans are worried about the Dodgers making the move and grabbing the lead in the division for a run at the playoffs.
We need our samurai to show up.
And, obviously, by our samurai, today I mean Brandon Webb. We need him to get back to the Cy Young winning form he showed us for the first 27 games this season, and stop the Dodgers offense cold like he has before. We know he absolutely can do it. There's a difference between a guy who is an ace, and a guy who's just your #1 starter- an ace is the guy who goes out and wins the big games when you need him to. Time for Brandon Webb to remember he's our ace.
But a samurai doesn't fight alone, and Webb isn't going to win this game by himself. That's why we need the bats to get hot today. You'll recall that Chad Billingsley pitched well against us last time, but that's not how it's gone all season. Note, if you will, the fact that the guy is 1-3 against us. Chris Young, Stephen Drew, and Mark Reynolds have both put up good numbers against him- they're a combined 21 for 54, with three doubles, two triples, three home runs and ten RBIs against him. We can hit this guy, and we can beat him. We just need to start getting hits together against him, and he'll fall.
So, things are dire. Bandits on the horizon, a tenuous grasp of first place, and if our samurai fall here, we may not make it through to October. Time to show us what you've got.
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The Seven Snakepit Samurai
Brandon Webb
Conor Jackson
Stephen Drew
Mark Reynolds
Adam Dunn
Chris Snyder
Brandon Lyon
They need to show up today and save our village!
We are gonna get drunk with Adam Dunn and we're gonna head-butt some damn kangaroos.
Mark Reynolds
isn’t playing!!
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Johnson has shoulder fatigue
Scherzer starts tomorrow. Petit vs. Lincecum and Davis vs. Zito to start the SF series.
.....crap.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Well......
fancy meeting you here?
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Todays lineup:
D. Eckstein 2b .286
A. Ojeda 3b .250
S. Drew ss .286
A. Dunn 1b .239
C. Jackson lf .294
C. Young cf .245
J. Upton rf .244
C. Snyder c .238
B. Webb p .138
It looks like BoMel is shaking things up today. Lots of changes including Eck at lead off, Augie at 3b and batting second, Wolf batting third, Beast at 1b, CJ batting fifth and J-Up starting in rf. Only three LHBs in the lineup today.
Those other guys:
R. Martin c .283
A. Ethier rf .292
M. Ramirez lf .400
J. Loney 1b .303
C. Blake 3b .278
M. Kemp cf .287
B. DeWitt 2b .257
A. Berroa ss .236
C. Billingsley p .091
early runs
hopefully this line up shake up can give us an early lead. Early runs will allow Webb to go after hitters and get his mojo back. Heres to number 20!?!?!?!
Stephen 'Bambi's Worst Nightmare' Drew
Good stuff from Conor ‘Thunderbrows’ Jackson, announcing the lineup.
soco's keys to the game
1) Maek poast
2) Dessert?
We are gonna get drunk with Adam Dunn and we're gonna head-butt some damn kangaroos.
Everyone's favorite
Jewish baseball player pops up to start us off.
We are gonna get drunk with Adam Dunn and we're gonna head-butt some damn kangaroos.
This makes me laugh.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Not quite the start I hoped.
But it was pretty much the start I expected.
"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson
1-2-3
down they go. Now, what kind of Webb do we have today?
We are gonna get drunk with Adam Dunn and we're gonna head-butt some damn kangaroos.
I'm sure he's just
setting them up for the double play.
"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson
The Webbie of weeks past
could double ‘em up almost on command. Hopefully he’s back today. No running for those cowardly Dodgers.
"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson
A nice strikeout
for Webb. Hopefully a sign of things to come.
We are gonna get drunk with Adam Dunn and we're gonna head-butt some damn kangaroos.
Much better
A great change-up to get Ethier – which is more than we did last night. Now, time for him to nail Mandy.
Mandy flies out
We are gonna get drunk with Adam Dunn and we're gonna head-butt some damn kangaroos.
BOO YAH
NO STEAL FOR YOU
We are gonna get drunk with Adam Dunn and we're gonna head-butt some damn kangaroos.
END OF THE LINE
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Nice job, Snydes.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Or what Haren
allowed last night.
We are gonna get drunk with Adam Dunn and we're gonna head-butt some damn kangaroos.
I'm awake again.
10 hours after being evacuated from my dorm room. I need some food.
Go Dbacks.
by emilylovesthedbacks on Sep 6, 2008 4:12 PM EDT reply actions
What came of that anyway?
Freedom is nothing but a chance to be better. -Albert Camus
by C. Wesley Baier on Sep 6, 2008 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
We sat outside
for 30 minutes, Flag Fire showed up, and then they let us back in. The rumor is that someone on my floor smelled gas…I didn’t smell it.
We’re back in, and they won’t tell us what happened.
by emilylovesthedbacks on Sep 6, 2008 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Someone
ate the NAU dinner buffet?
We are gonna get drunk with Adam Dunn and we're gonna head-butt some damn kangaroos.
That sounds
pretty familiar…..
Eventually, I learned to just turn my headphones up and turn off my light when the fire alarms went off.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Totally!
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
I used to hide in the bathroom in my room
until someone came room to room because everyone was doing the same.
But seriously,
if I hadn’t already been awake (half asleep, whatever), I wouldn’t have heard it in the first place- door closed, and the alarms are only in the hallway.
by emilylovesthedbacks on Sep 6, 2008 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Luckily
he probably will adjust for the next time.
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By
driving it out?
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Who's broadcasting?
I can’t remember which network it is, but one of them has an exasperatingly minimal display.
"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson
That's odd.
They’re usually pretty good. I think the one that I’m thinking of is TBS.
"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson
Yeah,
TBS is teh suck.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Echo?
Freedom is nothing but a chance to be better. -Albert Camus
by C. Wesley Baier on Sep 6, 2008 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Foxtrot?
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Not Fox
That channel believes that every inch of the screen needs to be covered in data of one kind or another, or otherwise,
Must have been
technical troubles.
We are gonna get drunk with Adam Dunn and we're gonna head-butt some damn kangaroos.
Every time I hear Billingsley
I hear, “Mr. Billingsley I presume?”
What a crazy random happenstance!
Zooom! Whoooosh!
That was two very speedy half-innings in a row.
"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson
Budweiser American Ale?
What the crap is this?
We are gonna get drunk with Adam Dunn and we're gonna head-butt some damn kangaroos.
Isn't Bud
just bottled water?
"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson
That was odd
thought I canceled that comment about a minutes ago.
But Bud’s making something other than very weak lager?
"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson
Apparently
I guess that’s keeping with their new marketing strategy to try and make their beer seem higher class.
We are gonna get drunk with Adam Dunn and we're gonna head-butt some damn kangaroos.
Shoving feathers up your butt
doesn’t make you a duck.
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What I mean
is that they apparently came out with a completely new beer.
We are gonna get drunk with Adam Dunn and we're gonna head-butt some damn kangaroos.
One that can
be positively identified as beer?
"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson
It's certainly
darker than Bud, so I guess so? On the other hand, that might just mean it tastes like Coors, which is not an improvement.
We are gonna get drunk with Adam Dunn and we're gonna head-butt some damn kangaroos.
Coors IS
an improvement over Bud, though.
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If you like
true piss, then sure. Bud doesn’t have much taste, Coors has too much bad taste.
We are gonna get drunk with Adam Dunn and we're gonna head-butt some damn kangaroos.
I'd still
take Coors over Bud.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
*rimshot*
Freedom is nothing but a chance to be better. -Albert Camus
by C. Wesley Baier on Sep 6, 2008 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
SIDDOWN, LONEY!!
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Thaswudimtalkinabout!
"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson
Time to
kick it up a notch?
"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson
HELLZ YEAH
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Webb looks good
with another strikeout.
We are gonna get drunk with Adam Dunn and we're gonna head-butt some damn kangaroos.
From now on
when I see a broken-bat single, that phrase is gonna run through my mind. Very nice.
"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson
That's
the first hit for either team, isn’t it?
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Snyder
has really cooled off lately, it seems.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Seems like
he’s been striking out quite a bit, also.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Justin Upton
Certainly appreciates that addition to the equipment.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
Fat lot of good
it did.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
No-hitter
broken up.
Sweeeet play by CY to keep it a single, though.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Aaron Cook a Cy Young candidate?
Really??
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
I think any pitcher who plays in Colorado
Deserves something… A Purple Heart may be more appropriate than a Cy Young…
Fair 'nuff
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Turns out,
he’s no Dan Haren.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Strange.
This was supposed to be a response to Jim’s comment below.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Phew
Gets the pitcher, but a runner on third with two outs. Let’s hope the Dodgers are no better at getting him home than we were.
Russell Martin isn't NEARLY as much of a gamer
as Eckstein. He’s not scrappy/gritty enough.
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Crap.
Webby’s pitches are all sailing now.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Careful....
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
AZWILDCATS has already been banned twice.
There’s a reason for that.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
THAT'S IT
YOU’RE BANNED!!
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
I can also
do long division.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
but the question remains
can you do triple integrations?
Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong.
by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 6, 2008 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions
No....
I suck. Way to publicly embarrass me. ::sobs::
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
If he showed up
At any point during the Dodgers eight-game losing streak, he’d be more welcome. But only showing up when your team wins will get you a short leash.
You might have noticed
They won last night. If they hadn’t, or if we were winning, there’d be no trace of him here.
Wrong
Another long-ball allowed by our starters.
by Jim McLennan on Sep 5, 2008 7:19 PM MST reply reply
hey everyone, whats going on, long time no talk
by AZWILDCATS on Sep 5, 2008 7:27 PM MST reply reply
Case closed.
Webb
can’t control his fastball.
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MANDY MANDY MANDY
Good first pitch by Webb.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
SIDDOWN MANDY!!
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Mandy K's
just another AB.
We are gonna get drunk with Adam Dunn and we're gonna head-butt some damn kangaroos.
That chicken Burger King
commerical is freaking me out!
We are gonna get drunk with Adam Dunn and we're gonna head-butt some damn kangaroos.
Agreed.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Okay, so not only does it freak me out
But it confuses me. The cow WANTS to be eaten?
Also. Ew. Ew. Ew.
What a crazy random happenstance!
Paging
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
K!
Would have been much easier if this was done earlier
by singaporedbacksfan on Sep 6, 2008 4:48 PM EDT reply actions
DREEEEEEEEEEEEEEW
We are gonna get drunk with Adam Dunn and we're gonna head-butt some damn kangaroos.
Heh....
Torre admits that winning 5 games in a row is “just the ebb and flow of the season” rather than a sign of something different.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Drew singles.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Dunner
just missed that one…. and knows it.
And hates it.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Striking out CoJack.
Always an impressive achievement. ::sigh::
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Jackson
Has been striking out a lot more lately. That Burger King Hot Zone was very interesting – it seems all our hitters struggle with pitches away: see also Young, Reynolds, etc.
Young??
His problem is he always tries to pull pitches away. /snark
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Oh man
a new Spike Lee joint!
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I believe
that got pretty good reviews at either Cannes or Sundance.
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I'm very excited
We are gonna get drunk with Adam Dunn and we're gonna head-butt some damn kangaroos.
I'm just glad
some meatier films are finally coming out. I’m a little fluffed out.
We are gonna get drunk with Adam Dunn and we're gonna head-butt some damn kangaroos.
The Dark Knight?
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I am looking forward to
Max Payne, being the nerd I am.
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While true,
…….um…. still.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Augie
doin’ what Augie does.
We are gonna get drunk with Adam Dunn and we're gonna head-butt some damn kangaroos.
One pitch to end the inning
one pitch to rule them all…
We are gonna get drunk with Adam Dunn and we're gonna head-butt some damn kangaroos.
Reminds me
of Clerks 2
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Clerks 3
is coming out at the end of September.
We are gonna get drunk with Adam Dunn and we're gonna head-butt some damn kangaroos.
Did I just hear the radio guys correctly?
13 scoreless innings in a row?
You stop that! Stop that right now!
"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson
It just fine when WE do it
but I’d rather the Dodgers didn’t follow Webb’s fine example. I’m sure, the D-Backs would rather they didn’t too.
"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson
42.1
IIRC
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On a nerd note, Chad kind of looks like Ben Browder.
Also, he is MY AGE?
Let’s not think how I feel about this.
What a crazy random happenstance!
So did the ump
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ARGH
Upton ALMOST powers that pitch outta the park.
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I'd take
Kevin Costner.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
I might take
Kevin Federline.
We are gonna get drunk with Adam Dunn and we're gonna head-butt some damn kangaroos.
I think I just puked a little
In my mouth.
Never use that name in a sentence with out finishing it with a use of the word idiot after it.
What a crazy random happenstance!
As in,
“Kevin Federline is NOT an idiot”?
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
No, more like
Kevin Federline makes idiots feel better about themselves.
What a crazy random happenstance!
Most idiots
don’t get Britney Spears? Back before she was insane.
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The six degrees
of learning how to hit?
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Last year the bloggers wanted him run out of town. This year I haven’t head much about running the current coach out.
That’s very interesting, no?
That would be because we are hitting better.
.716 OPS first-half last season under Seitzer
.738 OPS so far this year.
Sorry to inject facts into your rant.
Reynolds, CY, Wolf, CJ, and Snydes all have more experience. Could the .022 increase have anything to do with that? Plus, J-Up has been out of the lineup for a big chunk of this season as well.
I wouldn’t call, from a statistical standpoint, an increase of .022 OPS something to get overly excited about.
Over almost 5,000 at-bats
.022 is plenty significant. Don’t forget we also had Byrnes’ post-contract slump to contend with, dragging us down this season like a concrete anchor.
For like
two months?
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That might be true
but strikeouts from everyone was the concrete anchor, not a guy who played two months (one of which was when everyone else was doing well).
We are gonna get drunk with Adam Dunn and we're gonna head-butt some damn kangaroos.
I would joke
and say I blame Byrnes for the TV falling, but that is kind of true.
We are gonna get drunk with Adam Dunn and we're gonna head-butt some damn kangaroos.
Strikeouts aren't necessarily a problem
Six teams in the NL have 1,000 or more and they include four teams [Cubs, Brewers, D-backs and Rockies] with playoff aspirations, and two division leaders…for the next three innings, at least…
True
but it seems a huge Diamondbacks problem, especially with guys that need to produce. When Reynolds and Young had it going, things generally were going well, but when they looked awful, things were hard to keep together.
We are gonna get drunk with Adam Dunn and we're gonna head-butt some damn kangaroos.
Doesn't really affect Reynolds
Here are his K’s and BA for the season to date. Remarkably consistent in the strikeouts, even as his average is like a roller-coaster:
April 38 .245
May 25 .235
June 36 .293
July 35 .217
August 37 .216
It seems like a situational hitting thing
We see the same at-bats no matter what’s happening in the game. Rather than taking a bit off and move runners over, most of the D-Backs seem to swing away like there’s nobody on and nobody out. That might even be why BoMel has resorted to bunting in questionable situations. He can’t rely on his batters to put the ball in play.
"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson
Or
they swing like they want a grand slam.
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Would it help
if we stationed a coach at the top of the dugout steps? He could grab each player by the shoulders, look him in the eye and shout “SMALLBALL!” or “STATION TO STATION!!!!” Maybe if he shouted with enough volume, we could see a few more base hits.
"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson
This year's
But foulpole’s suggestion (Jim called it a rant??) that it’s due to a natural progression seems entirely reasonable to me. We dont know why, of course, and I brought up Seitzer’s name as a joke.
You'd need to compare stats for individual players
To see what the results were. Doing so before and after Seltzer last year, which is likely a better contrast, gives a 39 point OPS increase.
Thirty nine points across the team
sounds significant, but I still think it’s hard to pinpoint why. This year’s squad, with Schu all year, is 28 pts higher in the second half, for example. Dunn is a factor, but there are individuals, like Snyder and Drew, with big second half spikes.
I was never much of a Seitzer fan, so I dont wanna get boxed into really defending him – I just think the second half 2007 improvement is a pretty open issue.
.022 is plenty significant.
That’s about 3% change or from a the true study of statistics view point the margin of error.
3% would be within the margin of error
For 500 at-bats, but from what I recall of “the true study of statistics,” when you reach 5,000, it’s plenty significant.
it may be the difference
between a runaway greenhouse or another ice age.
Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong.
by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 7, 2008 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Who's
got sunscreen?
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On the other hand
last year offense was one of the big question marks, while pitching (both starting and relief) wasn’t. Maybe that put more focus on the hitting, where as this year, nothing seems to be going at the same time. Do we fire everyone mid-season?
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I feel that many people put way too much attention on the coaches when the young players MLEs, minor league stats etc. just do not translate to the bigs.
MLEs?
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Speaking of cinema
and since it’s a commercial break. What should we see tonight?
Hamlet 2
or
the House Bunny
Go, Snakepit, go!
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Yes
and a Hollywood, but that’s not the question.
We are gonna get drunk with Adam Dunn and we're gonna head-butt some damn kangaroos.
So
Hamlet 2 or House Bunny?
We are gonna get drunk with Adam Dunn and we're gonna head-butt some damn kangaroos.
I have a fondness
For Anna Faris [she was a lot of fun in Just Friends] but I would imagine Hamlet 2 might be a better date movie.
Anna Faris
is great.
We are gonna get drunk with Adam Dunn and we're gonna head-butt some damn kangaroos.
Hehe.
Date. Jim, we’re married. We don’t date. I am usually shocked that he is THERE.
What a crazy random happenstance!
Timm has corrected me
We do date. I just have a different definition? I don’t know.
Either way… BOO MANNY
What a crazy random happenstance!
Hamlet 2.
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Seven game hitting streak
for Angel Berroa. Who knew he had it in him?
"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson
Well
there was that rookie season with the Royals…
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Then the pod-people got him
I didn’t think clones could play baseball.
"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson
They haven't
figured out how to make clones non-degenerative. They accelerate the growing process so much that you can only expect a few good years with them.
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Bills strikes out
on a foul bunt.
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The Bills always
strike out. First there was Norwood…
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::rimshot::
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No, no, no. No! NO!
All wrong!
"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson
Newest rumor on the fire alarm front...
Someone was smoking pot (in the substance free dorm, of course) and set off the alarm.
Geez. Good one, guys.
by emilylovesthedbacks on Sep 6, 2008 5:21 PM EDT reply actions
Mandy HR.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Apparently
the Lakers just won the Super Bowl, the way the fans are going nuts and the way Mandy stood there like a lump of crap.
We are gonna get drunk with Adam Dunn and we're gonna head-butt some damn kangaroos.
1st class
turd all the way.
we need a plunger to get this turd down the sewer.
Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong.
by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 6, 2008 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I hate Mandy
more and more every minute.
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If they can't score
runs, I can’t say second place isn’t deserved at this point.
We are gonna get drunk with Adam Dunn and we're gonna head-butt some damn kangaroos.
1st place?
say goodbye
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by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 6, 2008 5:24 PM EDT reply actions
So long first place, it was nice knowing you
Our offense has been the biggest reason why though, not Webb (or the rest of our starters).
That is the most
bitter part of it. I love seeing a lot of runs scored, but am just as thrilled to watch a pitchers dual. However, our pitchers are having to go our there almost every game and throw a perfect game for any hope of a win.
3 run shot off Webb? So what, we SHOULD still score more than that……
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by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 6, 2008 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Kind of hard to know going out there every 5 days
that it’s more than likely little or no offense will be there.
Why the hell
would you throw Mandy a first pitch fastball belt-high??
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He should have
switched the ball out for a Whopper, Mandy would’ve been distracted for the next few pitches.
We are gonna get drunk with Adam Dunn and we're gonna head-butt some damn kangaroos.
Ostrich
that’s not a burger, that’s a bird!
We are gonna get drunk with Adam Dunn and we're gonna head-butt some damn kangaroos.
April 6th
that’s how long we had 1st place.
Really though, if anyone remotely was any good in the West, we’d be looking to keep out of the cellar the way we’ve played since late April
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by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 6, 2008 5:29 PM EDT reply actions
Yep
or if the Diamondbacks were even a little better, they’d be running away with the division.
We are gonna get drunk with Adam Dunn and we're gonna head-butt some damn kangaroos.
I like your way of looking at it,
but this team doesnt instill that confidence (inspiration?) in me anymore.
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by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 6, 2008 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I have to stay positive
when baseball is over all I have left is the Bills and Suns.
We are gonna get drunk with Adam Dunn and we're gonna head-butt some damn kangaroos.
That's rough.
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And I don't
have an easy Sun Devils’ football schedule to soothe me either. Damn Georgia.
We are gonna get drunk with Adam Dunn and we're gonna head-butt some damn kangaroos.
That's irrelevant
as they have to play each other every year. This year is different because they have an out of conference game that is legitimately a tough game.
We are gonna get drunk with Adam Dunn and we're gonna head-butt some damn kangaroos.
shaq who?
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by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 6, 2008 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Shaq Fu!
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You must
REALLY suck at free throws.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Me personally
I’m not Shaq good, but I do pretty decent in pickup games with friends.
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Four hits.
15 innings.
Yep, we don’t deserve to be in first. I don’t care who’s pitching against us.
just curious
and asking probably an obvious question.
You went to UofA?
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by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 6, 2008 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Not really
a shocker.
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Woah woah woah
let’s not talk too much about college. Wouldn’t want to be called GLB again, do we?
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Wha??
No swing? REALLY??
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Geez
that wild ball could have been disasterous.
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Disastrous
even?
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
4-0
walked in a run.
We are gonna get drunk with Adam Dunn and we're gonna head-butt some damn kangaroos.
Bases loaded BB.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Perfect
Absolutely perfect way to wrap-up our first-place streak
"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson
Game's not over yet
plenty of time for other crazy shennanigans.
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Like a crazy
Dbacks grand slam?
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
That would be crazy.
"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson
Career-high for runs last time out,
career-high for walks this time out? UGH.
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6 walks
webb leaves with bases loaded.
Ethier up.
Bring in qualls!
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by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 6, 2008 5:45 PM EDT reply actions
Is it Qualls?
I saw Cruz warming up.
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sorry soco
being a tad sarcastic
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by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 6, 2008 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Amusing
The call to the bullpen is brought to you by Zantac.
Do you think they’ve been watching many AZ games?
by Jim McLennan on Sep 6, 2008 5:47 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
+1
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+100
About time! I’ve needed a zantac for a few weeks now!
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by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 6, 2008 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions
"A week since
they’ve gotten a win from any of their ‘so called aces.’"
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Just a bit
but I have a feeling that the play-by-play likes the Dodgers a bit.
We are gonna get drunk with Adam Dunn and we're gonna head-butt some damn kangaroos.
No.
He’s doing color.
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Is the PbP
Matt Vasgersian?
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Harsh but true.
Also, it was “Two and a half weeks”.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Does it really matter?
We are gonna get drunk with Adam Dunn and we're gonna head-butt some damn kangaroos.
Ball three
bases loaded
and a foul back
mandy on deck
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by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 6, 2008 5:50 PM EDT reply actions
here we go again
our ’aces have been outscored 11 to ZERO this weekend.
fly ball twisting foul
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by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 6, 2008 5:51 PM EDT reply actions
Ethier fouls back another one
Cruz/Ethier battling
the key battle of the game, imo
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by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 6, 2008 5:52 PM EDT reply actions
That's even more perfect
I think our deal with the Devil has come due.
"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson
I thought
the Dodgers dealt with the devil in trading for Mandy?
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He's the Devil
he can play both sides.
I’m not sure what we gave away to get our bizarre first-place streak. Maybe it was our heart. Maybe it was Carlos Quentin. But it looks like the deal has expired.
"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson
Have you ever
danced with the Devil in the pale moonlight?
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5-0
on another walk.
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BALL 4
Damn it!
Cruz vs the Turd.
Walk him.
6-0 is better tha 9-0.
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by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 6, 2008 5:53 PM EDT reply actions
barely
7th walk of the day
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by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 6, 2008 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm serious.
We suck everytime we’re on national TV.
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2-0 on mandy
now 2-1
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by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 6, 2008 5:54 PM EDT reply actions
2-2 on mandy
97mph pitch
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by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 6, 2008 5:55 PM EDT reply actions
7-0
Fuck this. I’m going to go watch Entourage.
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I think
this is an appropriate use, don’t you, Jim?
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I wouldn't
have blamed you, though, if you deleted it.
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There are occasions
When well-placed profanity is the most-appropriate expression of emotion. Of course, the less you use it, the more effective it is when you do. But in this case, it’s fine.
Upton
loses the fly ball in the sun, turns into a 2 run ground rule double.
Webb just left the dugout.
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This is remarkably ugly.
"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson
That just sums up the situation
We get Manny to fly out…into a two-run ground-rule double. Webb must be pissed as those runs are charged to him.
bu-bye cy young 2008
bu-bye 20 wins
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by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 6, 2008 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Who cares about Webby’s stats? How cares about the CY? It’s all about winning ball games and making the playoffs, gang.
I care or I wouldn't have posted it
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by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 6, 2008 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I care too
Those last few runs on Manny’s “double” took the frontrunner argument for Webb’s CYA from the unlikely / very unlikely category to virtually impossible.
I was thinking that too,
but figured it wasn’t worth saying.
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I couldn’t care less about individual stats/awards. I wanna see our squad win games and make it to the post season.
and they've been winning a few games
thanks to the efforts of a few stars. I dont see the problem with acknowlwdging those efforts and stats.
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by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 6, 2008 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Dude
you’re the one who introduced the 2009 benefits of J-Up losing a fly in the sun!
Let’s move on.
You really would sit down across from Webb
and say, “Hey, even with the possibility of you being hurt thanks to that line drive to the chest: You sucked the last few games and due to that, you should give us a huge discount.”?
wow
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by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 6, 2008 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually it seems like a good time
to say “hey, you took a line drive to the chest and haven’t looked so good since then. You feeling OK?” And then, maybe it’s time to press the issue a little more. I don’t know what medical rights an MLB player has, but could it be time for them to press for further medical attention?
"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson
whoa!
uhm, I’ll just close the door behind me!
;-)
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by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 6, 2008 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Still,
even on your side, that look in the eyes is enough to send a chill up the ole spine….
Cool picture.
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by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 6, 2008 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions
A co-worker sent me about 30 of those cat pictures. There are some really good ones, but I hit my quota for the day with the one posted.
I think
we might just suspend the picture posting quota for the rest of today.
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That is the scairest LOLcat
I think I’ve seen.
"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson
I'm not sure why
but this made me laugh very hard. After the last LOLcat, maybe I needed to break the tension.
"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson
Webb must be pissed as those runs are charged to him.
If Webby is indeed " pissed as those runs are charged to him" then I don’t want him on my team. However, if “Webb must be pissed..” because it hurt the team’s ability to win the game then I would be OK with that.
I would build any team around a pitcher like Webb
you hate him now too as he is another one of those worthless ‘crap shoot’ prospects that came up in our farm system?
The inhumanity of it all
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by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 6, 2008 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
The problem with bringing up Webb
is that we shouldn’t have brought him up based on his minor league stats. They should have brought him up based on the major league stats that he hadn’t produced yet.
;-)
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+1
Perfect! LOL!
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by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 7, 2008 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions
you hate him now too
I don’t “hate” Webb or anyone on our team. I try not to “hate” anybody but if I did succumb to “hate” it would probably be child molesters and mass murders.
Baseball players are so far off my radar screen of “hate” that it’s not even an issue with me.
I hate
Randy Winn and James Loney and Mandy? But mostly just Randy Winn.
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Fly ball
Upton lost sight!!!!!
Damn it to hell!
GR Double
7-0
How freakin inept are we?
Can we at least find our own ass?
oh wait, the dodgers are handing it to us!
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by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 6, 2008 5:56 PM EDT reply actions
We'd probably
still lose our asses in the sun.
"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson
Oh, I'm sure there's more to come
The post-game news conference should be a hoot. And we still have several games left to really work up a good frustration.
"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson
No
I’m going down to take a dump at the ticket windows here in a moment. A nice, big, steaming, smelly, dump!
then all will be right in the world
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by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 6, 2008 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions
You should
deliver it in a banana leaf.
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I Honestly Think
This is the end of the season right here. I’d like to think we can get hot again in the next few weeks, but this team has done nothing to indicate that as a possibility. Clinging to first for months was all we had, and have a feeling that once that slips away, the D’Backs will too. We may even slip to third if the Rockies play decent.
They've been blithely pretending
that everything is OK for so long. What are they gonna do now? We don’t have “at least we’re still in first” to cover up our shame.
"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson
Who's "they" exactly?
All I’ve heard from Melvin and the organization is how they expected to be in a battle down to the wire, and how fortunate they were to be in first place, and how they couldnt continue to play like they had and continue to stay there.
Honestly, where do you come up with this stuff?
“they” picked up Dunn and Eck for the stretch run. I’m ok with those attempts to try and keep us in the mix.
‘they’ are so willing to throw away young pitching prospects on a mirage. I am not okay with that.
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by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 6, 2008 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Different issues
We’ll see if they end up as good moves down the road. Maybe they wont. I actually share your worry about some of ‘em. But Scribi’s talking about today. That the org was “blithely pretending” that everything was OK this year.
The late season moves to acquire Dunn, Rauch and Eckstein (not to mention the Haren acquisition) suggest an ongoing lack of satisfaction with their personnel and the status quo – and make it a really hard case that they were standing pat, thinking everything’s “OK” – at least within their expressed financial restraints. Now, if you wanna go up a level and examine those restraints, fine. I’d argue they’re largely self-imposed at this point and are holding the team’s fortunes back on the field. But I dont think that was what scrbi was talking about.
We are now 1/2 a game out from going to the post season. It’s far from over. Prospects are a crap shoot.
Now, if you wanna go up a level and examine those restraints, fine. I’d argue they’re largely self-imposed at this point and are holding the team’s fortunes back on the field.
The “new management team” has been playing chicken little regarding the financial status of the club since day 1.
"Playing chicken little"
and being millions of dollars in debt ARE NOT the same thing.
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4 for 48?
Gimme an “L”
Gimme an “A”
Gimme an “M”
Gimme an “E”
Our 2008 DBacks? LAME!
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by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 6, 2008 6:02 PM EDT reply actions
Answer: NL West lead
Question: What is something the D’Backs won’t see again this season?
Un-f****ng-believable. I have been lurking for awhile, not really having much to say….Upton’s gaffe just sent me into a new level of pissed off at this club, and I do believe that might be all she wrote for this season. I hope to God they prove me wrong, but we are so inept right now at all phases of the game I don’t see them pulling out of the nosedive!!
Beer...now there's a temporary solution!
Hmm, seems to have disappeared right after
he was voted “Player of the Week”. Our players don’t do well after getting awards or contract extensions.
Webb did well last year
after winning the Cy Young?
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the game is over radio guys
get a clue
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by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 6, 2008 6:05 PM EDT reply actions
Where was this
like 5 innings ago??
Two hits and a walk. Bases loaded with one out.
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Upton GIDP.
Nevermind.
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Jon Rauch issues a leadoff walk to Casey Blake.
Jon Rauch sucks, I’ve decided.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
For a recently former closer
he’s been incredibly ineffective. Dont know if he’s injured, but a huge disappointment
geez.
I’m done with this game.
If anyone feels like talking about something other than this shitpile, I’ll be in the OT room.
by emilylovesthedbacks on Sep 6, 2008 6:20 PM EDT reply actions
Tomorrow's game
Memo to Max Scherzer:
No pressure, but we need you to throw a perfect game because you will get absolutely zero run support. Thank you for your cooperation.
From the Diamondback Nation
Actually,
if he throws a perfect game tomorrow, he gets a no-decision.
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Went to lunch, came back
and nothing changed. Although I did catch Grace when he labeled the NL West as a bad division. I didn’t think they were supposed to say that out loud.
"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson
Um...
they’ve been saying it all year long. At least since May. Grace has said it. Sutton has said it. Derrick Hall has said it. Jeff Moorad has said it. Over and over and over again.
Sarcasm’s much funnier when it’s based in an element of truth.
Condescension,
patronizing remarks, and disregard for anyone who doesn’t share your point of view. That’s why I won’t argue with you. You’re an intelligent, eloquent person who has a lot of interesting things to say about baseball. I enjoy reading a lot of the things that you write. But you also seem to enjoy arguing, and even demeaning other posters for very little reason. I’ll continue to read what you have to say, but I’m not going to fight with you.
"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson
First of all
you’re right about the condescension, and I appreciate the feedback about demeaning others with “very little reason”. I’ll continue to work on that. As far as “disregard for anyone who doesn’t share your point of view”, I think that’s quite unfair, actually, and your own apparent need to rag on this team’s lack of character or “effort” over and over again, strikes me as harsh and condescending. That’s why I’m in your face. Not because I want to “hook” you into an argument, or because I want to hurl invective your way. I’m here because your comments really piss me off.
Look, this has been a tough week for Diamondback fans. We all harbor some degree of hopeful illusions about our team and those’ve come crashing down pretty hard. For all of us. You and me both. We express that in different ways, and maybe some of it gets lost in the translation, since we’re not face to face. It may not seem like it, but I really am trying to be sensitive to all that, and maybe going on and on about how the team doesnt care makes you feel better, I dont know.
But it doesnt make me feel better. I find your unsupported, and increasingly repetitive, accusations to be incredibly condescending to the players we supposedly all support. I mean, it’s one thing to say the team sucks right now. We’re all laying some of that down. So, I’m not trying to quash self expression or a passion that I share. But to go on and on about how the players dont care, or to attribute their recent woes to some unprofessional lack of collective effort seems aggressively presumptuous to me, scrbi. I mean, dude, it’s not like you’ve mentioned it once or twice. Three quarters of your comments lately drum home the idea that these slackers arent worthy of your (and by extension, our) support. I’m not saying Love em or Leave Em. I’m saying if you’re gonna bludgeon the community with your opinion at a difficult time, at least have the courtesy to either drive home this provocative view with some support, or tone it down a little.
Again, it’s not as personal as it sounds. I think some of your comments are funny and hope you’ll continue to post. I’m just pointing out this issue because, well, you continue to point it out :-)
Thanks for acknowledging my post
From what you have to say, I doubt we will ever really get along, but I think we can coexist peacefully.
It’s clear that that we disagree on quite a lot, but our opinions are both reasonable. I don’t see why either of us should need to punish the other for them.
From where I sit, the Diamondbacks haven’t played with much heart or drive. In the sense that they go out every game and swing the bat really really hard, yes they are putting in an effort. In the sense of learning from their mistakes, preparing for plays, games and at bats, they have not. Their poor showing in important games, and repeated mental mistakes tell me that they are not doing much to improve. I understand that you disagree, and I respect that. But that doesn’t make my opinion invalid. The fact that you treat it with such contempt makes me very angry. You say that it doesn’t show much loyalty towards the team, and that’s likely true. But they are resilient young men. I doubt they need you to stick up for them. And, since April they have been playing remarkably poor baseball. When the team improves, I’ll stop mocking their effort (or at least mock their effort less. Until he learns to throw the ball cleanly to first, Mark Reynolds is fair game). In the meantime, they have earned a large measure of scorn.
Once again, thank you for listening to my opinion. I understand that you don’t agree with me, and that you are frustrated by my poor assessment of the Diamondbacks. But these are things about which reasonable people can disagree. It may be convenient to dismiss me as an ill-informed crank, but treating me like one won’t do anything to change my opinion of the D-Backs.
"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson
I'm not intending
to “punish your opinion” , which is probably shared by 8 of 10 Dback fans right now, seven of whom I’ve little or no quarrel with. I was more frustrated by your reluctance (until now) to provide any follow up to a slew of provocative, pointed remarks when asked to do so. That bugs me because you’re not exactly a wallflower, in terms of tone or frequency, and I think you’re guilty of a bit of a double standard in terms of shelling out the sarcasm and essentially ignoring me on grounds I dont afford you enough respect, or that engaging me is “pointless”. I just feel that in a forum like this, if one’s gonna rip the heart of our collective passion, one ought to be a bit more forthcoming in defending – or clarifying – one’s remarks.
It may be convenient to dismiss me as an ill-informed crank…
I still dont agree with your opinion, but at least I understand it a little better, thanks to the above comments. I’ve never dismissed you. Prior to your post above, you’ve been dismissing me. I’ve been trying to engage you. And I never called you a crank. That’s your word.
(Well, I’ve had a couple beers and am starting to sound eerily like Glenn Close in Fatal Attraction, so I’ll say Good Night!. I have a Diamondbacks’ light switch to turn off. And on. And off. And on.And off. On.Off.On.Off.On.Off……….)
17 walks by
our DBacks in two games
That’s a formula for failure if ever.
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by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 6, 2008 6:36 PM EDT reply actions
What happens when you mix it
with our painful scoreless streak? Does the failure lab actually explode?
We are so gawdawful right now.
"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson
8 hits, 0 XBHs and 3 walks by our batters, too.
That doesn’t help.
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AAAARRRRGGGGGHHHHHH
Freaking Augie ALMOST hits a home run…… right into Repko’s glove.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Burke HBP.
Somewhere, mrssoco is laughing.
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Up to young now
to avoid the shut out.
ROFLOL! yeah, right.
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by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 6, 2008 6:53 PM EDT reply actions
bases load
okay cy, I take that snark back.
Upton with bases loaded
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by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 6, 2008 6:54 PM EDT reply actions
+1
I’m up for that
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by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 6, 2008 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions
2-1 on Upton
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by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 6, 2008 6:56 PM EDT reply actions
dudgers bullpen getting active?
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by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 6, 2008 6:56 PM EDT reply actions
Finally
Good freaking grief!
Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong.
by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 6, 2008 6:56 PM EDT reply actions
scoring? what’s that?
Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong.
by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 6, 2008 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Woohoo!
The scoreless streak is over!
"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson
Clearly,
we’re now going to win tomorrow.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Shutout broken up.
Upton, 2 RBIs.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
7-2 now
Torre making a call to the pen.
I wouldn’t be worried if I was Torre
Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong.
by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 6, 2008 6:57 PM EDT reply actions
Up to Montero now
2 on 2 out
pop fly, just out of reach
0-2
Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong.
by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 6, 2008 7:00 PM EDT reply actions
full count
2 outs
Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong.
by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 6, 2008 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Welcome to 2nd place
i hate it already
they did it to themselves though
Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong.
by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 6, 2008 7:02 PM EDT reply actions
Hooray! for dignity runs
Boooo! For 17 innings of lousy play.
"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson
21 games to go
Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong.
by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 6, 2008 7:06 PM EDT reply actions
well, I'm sorry for my absence ppl... I've been busy and u know what....
I gave up on this team like 3 weeks ago…. I hate to say it but this team hurts me… it’s not even fun to watch those sedona red guys “play” anymore this season… it’s like a reeeeealy big snowball made by frustration…
I only hope our team can figure out what is happening and fix it to play good next year…
I’m going back to study now… see ya folks… bye
Wikipedia is accurate. (citation needed)
It's Muu's fault!!
GIT EM!!
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
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