AZ Snakepit: An SB Nation Community

Navigation: Jump to content areas:


Pro Quality. Fan Perspective.
Around SBN: Baby Boilers no more: Michigan State-Purdue Preview

Gameday Thread, #158: 9/24 vs. Cardinals

Arizona Diamondbacks at St. Louis Cardinals, Sep 24, 2008 8:15 PM EDT


Ari_medium

Max Scherzer
RHP, 0-3, 3.00

Adam Wainwright
RHP, 10-3, 3.21

stl_medium

Baseball-Reference.com preview [opens in new window]

Must-win Game, #1 in a series of five. Collect the entire set! If not quite technically a must-win, with the Dodgers magic number still up at three, this is pretty much where the ride stops for Arizona. It is almost essential for the Diamondbacks to W out from here, and it would be very helpful if the Padres did not roll over like a bunch of fearful puppies, as they did last night. I mean: 10-1? The Dodgers' biggest margin of victory since April? Sheesh. C'mon, guys - you can do bette...oh, sorry - my mistake. They're the 2008 Padres. :-S As a result, I've a nasty feeling our elimination number will be one by the time we attend Friday's game, even if we take both remaining games in St. Louis.

Max Scherzer's seventh start of his career, and he's still looking for his first win. That's not uncommon: more than 150 players have gone longer in the past fifty years, though the only one this year is Clayton Kershaw who took ten attempts to get his first victory. [The recent record is twenty winless starts top open a career, by Mike Mohler from 1993-1997 and Bill Caudill, 1979-1981] He has pitched well enough since returning: in those three starts, with an ERA of 3.71 and striking-out 28 hitters in only 19 innings. If he can avoid the long-ball - responsible for three of the four runs in his last two starts - he should be okay.

Runs over and above four would certainly be helpful. We've scored 77 times this month to date, only three more than the worst in the NL, despite an OPS in that time of .760, which actually ranks above average for the league. [The closest to us is Atlanta, with an OPS fractionally higher at .764 - yet they have scored thirty more September runs] It's the absence of clutch which has killed the Diamondbacks: the entire team seems to freeze up with runners in scoring position the last month. We can't "fix" this now. We just have to hope it stops happening.

A quick memo - not least to myself - reminding you that tomorrow's game will start at 11:15am, Arizona time. Tonight's result might go a long way to determining how much interest there is in that. I'll be traveling home from early on this one: I hope that, unlike last night, we are not knocked out of this one by the time I leave work.

0 recs  |  Comment 253 comments

Story-email Email Printer Print

Comments

Display:

Alright

Come on, guys. Buckle down, cowboy up, whatever cliche works. We need to win this game, we’re capable of winning this game. Go for it.

It's like living with a six-year old.

by 4 Corners Fan on Sep 24, 2008 7:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hey

The Dodgers are getting an entire series against a AAA team. :-)

by Jim McLennan on Sep 24, 2008 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thank you!

Was about to point that out myself

Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong.

by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 24, 2008 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

SD is playing all their regulars, Giles, A-Gon, Kouz, etc

their not benching their top players like glaus, pujols, ludwick and company

by AZWILDCATS on Sep 24, 2008 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They may be regulars

But that doesn’t mean they’re good.

"Besides, you two shouldn't fight! You're best friends, I would imagine. You can't let a bunch of talking dogs in space helmets ruin that."

by kishi on Sep 24, 2008 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And my point is obvious

"Besides, you two shouldn't fight! You're best friends, I would imagine. You can't let a bunch of talking dogs in space helmets ruin that."

by kishi on Sep 24, 2008 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't me ban you

From talking about the Dodgers and their opponents again…

And use the box below the title. Please.

by Jim McLennan on Sep 24, 2008 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Um....

this is a team that’s in contention for the worst record in the league….

And you’re bragging about them “playing their regulars”??

Josh Byrnes: PLEEEEEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE RE-SIGN ADAM DUNN!!

by DbacksSkins on Sep 24, 2008 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And the Cards

Probably still have a better line-up.

by Jim McLennan on Sep 24, 2008 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Though I can kinda see his point

No Pujols, no Ludwick, no Glaus to start with.

by Jim McLennan on Sep 24, 2008 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

A lesson our

former Suns coach never learned, much to his dismay.

Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong.

by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 24, 2008 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LETS GO DBACKS!

::::CLAP CLAP CLAPCLAPCLAP::::::

LETS GO DBACKS!!!!

::::CLAP CLAP CLAPCLAPCLAP!::::::

Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong.

by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 24, 2008 7:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Tonight's lineup
  1. S. Drew ss .289
  2. C. Young cf .248
  3. C. Jackson lf .302
  4. A. Dunn rf .236
  5. C. Tracy 1b .265
  6. M. Reynolds 3b .241
  7. C. Snyder c .241
  8. D. Eckstein 2b .185
  9. M. Scherzer p .000

by Jim McLennan on Sep 24, 2008 7:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Why would you move your lineup post above mine?

by foulpole on Sep 24, 2008 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's his blog?

Look at the time stamp. just a tad paranoid foulpole?

Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong.

by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 24, 2008 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

On my browser

Mine was first, from the moment I posted it. I think they must have been very close to the same time: if you and I post at the same time, we’ll each see our own post first. The other one won’t appear until the next time the SB Nation servers send out a refresh. But if you leave and come back in, it’ll be based on the actual time stamp. I win there. :-)

by Jim McLennan on Sep 24, 2008 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe because

his lineup posts are less annoying — he’s not obsessed with how many righties or lefties are in the lineup. And he doesn’t start every opposing lineup post with, “Those other guys”. It might have been mildly amusing in game 1 of the season, foulpole, but now it’s just really, really, really old.

Josh Byrnes: PLEEEEEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE RE-SIGN ADAM DUNN!!

by DbacksSkins on Sep 25, 2008 1:41 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Today’s lineup:

S. Drew ss .289
C. Young cf .248
C. Jackson lf .302
A. Dunn rf .236
C. Tracy 1b .265
M. Reynolds 3b .241
C. Snyder c .241
D. Eckstein 2b .185
M. Scherzer p .000

Only 3 LHBs in the line up against the righty and J-Up gets a blow as Dunn takes rf.

by foulpole on Sep 24, 2008 7:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Those other Guys:

S. Schumaker cf .303
A. Miles 2b .310
N. Stavinoha lf .212
F. Lopez 3b .272
A. Kennedy rf .271
J. Phelps 1b .259
M. Johnson c .250
A. Wainwright p .276
C. Izturis ss .258

Poo is out of the lineup. That’s always a good thing.

by foulpole on Sep 24, 2008 7:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Tampa announces they've sold out their first two home playoff games

Regardless, I assume we’ll be hearing complaints about how the Rays don’t have good attendance all through the playoffs.

"Besides, you two shouldn't fight! You're best friends, I would imagine. You can't let a bunch of talking dogs in space helmets ruin that."

by kishi on Sep 24, 2008 7:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think they'll be okay

As long as they don’t have to play the Rockies, anyway… :-) Still a novelty for the Tampa fans.

by Jim McLennan on Sep 24, 2008 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m happy for them being in the shadow of the yankmees and red sux all these years

Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong.

by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 24, 2008 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's good to see

That three of the four AL teams weren’t in the playoffs last year – Boston are the only returnees. In the NL, we’ve still got the Cubs and probably the Phillies, but the Mets or Brewers would be new. Of course, we were there last season, but LA weren’t.

by Jim McLennan on Sep 24, 2008 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Angels won their division last year.

by foulpole on Sep 24, 2008 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

My mistake

Odds are half the teams overall will be new, two in each league.

by Jim McLennan on Sep 24, 2008 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And we're off

No leadoff single for Drew this time.

by Jim McLennan on Sep 24, 2008 8:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

4 up three down.

:-(

by foulpole on Sep 24, 2008 8:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

well,

it’s usually 3 up and 3 down, so we ruined the perfect in the first inning for a change.

::yeah, reaching here::::::

Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong.

by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 24, 2008 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

But Jackson continues his hot hitting

His power has almost entirely evaporated – no homers since July – but since he is now hitting .373 for the month, hard to object.

by Jim McLennan on Sep 24, 2008 8:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Cards get another leadoff single

I think that makes them three for three?

by Jim McLennan on Sep 24, 2008 8:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What!!!

Schumaker was out!!!

We got robbed there.

by foulpole on Sep 24, 2008 8:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Didn't see it

But the umpiring this series has been crap all round.

by Jim McLennan on Sep 24, 2008 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Though Scherzer's walk

Renders it somewhat moot. :-(

by Jim McLennan on Sep 24, 2008 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It’s still an extra out the Cards just got.

by foulpole on Sep 24, 2008 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It’s not often you’ll hear the radio team say a call was “ridiculous”…

"Now, this is the dumbest thing I've ever heard [Hank Steinbrenner] say, and this is the third time I've said that this season."

by kishi on Sep 24, 2008 8:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That one was

Drew made the tag.

I want to be in Haren's harem.

by luckycc on Sep 24, 2008 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rather glad

To have Stavinoha there rather than Pujols, I must admit. :-)

by Jim McLennan on Sep 24, 2008 8:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

And rather glad

To have Lopez, not Ludwick.

by Jim McLennan on Sep 24, 2008 8:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Runner out at the plate to end the inning

I think we all know how that feels.

"Now, this is the dumbest thing I've ever heard [Hank Steinbrenner] say, and this is the third time I've said that this season."

by kishi on Sep 24, 2008 8:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

We got Schumaker twice that inning!!

That ball was too shallow to send the runner on.

Good throw by CJ.

by foulpole on Sep 24, 2008 8:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think their third-base coach likes us

Sending runners when he should hold them, putting up the stop sign when they should score.

by Jim McLennan on Sep 24, 2008 8:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Tony LaRussa doesn't like anyone

That’s a scientifically established fact.

"Now, this is the dumbest thing I've ever heard [Hank Steinbrenner] say, and this is the third time I've said that this season."

by kishi on Sep 24, 2008 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, absolutely

In fact, I’m sure that he would have just forfeited the rest of the series, if they didn’t want to refund the ticket money. I mean, it’s obvious he’s letting us win the game, what with how they’ve just been throwing batting practices pitches to us, and refusing to swing at anything Scherzer throws.

"Now, this is the dumbest thing I've ever heard [Hank Steinbrenner] say, and this is the third time I've said that this season."

by kishi on Sep 24, 2008 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

and +10 for your sig tag!

Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong.

by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 24, 2008 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Taking lessons

from our human windmill perhaps.

Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong.

by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 24, 2008 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Leadoff double by Tracy

That starts the second off on a better foot.

"Now, this is the dumbest thing I've ever heard [Hank Steinbrenner] say, and this is the third time I've said that this season."

by kishi on Sep 24, 2008 8:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice leadoff two bagger for Trace!!!

by foulpole on Sep 24, 2008 8:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Too bad we couldn’t drive him in.

:-(

by foulpole on Sep 24, 2008 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

#199 for Special K

"Now, this is the dumbest thing I've ever heard [Hank Steinbrenner] say, and this is the third time I've said that this season."

by kishi on Sep 24, 2008 8:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

199!

Tied for most all-time! W00t!

by Jim McLennan on Sep 24, 2008 8:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Looks like the clutch FAIL

Is still in effect. And with that, I’m off home. Hopefully in time to see some runs for us.

by Jim McLennan on Sep 24, 2008 8:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

D'oh

2-0, Cardinals.

"Now, this is the dumbest thing I've ever heard [Hank Steinbrenner] say, and this is the third time I've said that this season."

by kishi on Sep 24, 2008 8:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

2 on for the birds

no outs yet.

Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong.

by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 24, 2008 8:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

F-BOMB

Two error when the throw to first after a bunt gets away.

I want to be in Haren's harem.

by luckycc on Sep 24, 2008 8:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

huge F bombs

Heck, I’m tempted to scream it over the intercom here at work!

Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong.

by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 24, 2008 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oopha

Well, that sucked.

by TwinnerA on Sep 24, 2008 8:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Juuussst

a bit

Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong.

by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 24, 2008 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

A lead off single followed by a walk for the 1st two innings for Max.

by foulpole on Sep 24, 2008 8:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Double play

ends the inning.

I want to be in Haren's harem.

by luckycc on Sep 24, 2008 8:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

4-6-3!!!

That could have been worse.

by foulpole on Sep 24, 2008 8:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

pitch count after two:

Max 35

Wainwright 30

by foulpole on Sep 24, 2008 8:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

interesting recap on yahoo

- J. Phelps singled to center
- M. Johnson walked, J. Phelps to second
- A. Wainwright unknown into double play, A. Wainwright to second, M. Johnson and J. Phelps scored
- End of Inning (2 Runs, 2 Hits, 1 Error)
- S. Schumaker singled to center, A. Wainwright to third
- A. Miles grounded into double play second to shortstop to first, S. Schumaker out at second

Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong.

by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 24, 2008 8:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Interesting

I noticed earlier that the recap of the Giants game last night had this line: “S. Smith safe at first on third baseman R. Aurilia’s fielding error, O. Quintanilla and S. Smith scored”

"Now, this is the dumbest thing I've ever heard [Hank Steinbrenner] say, and this is the third time I've said that this season."

by kishi on Sep 24, 2008 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Max with the lead off bb!!!

by foulpole on Sep 24, 2008 8:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

HR would be

sweet about now

Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong.

by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 24, 2008 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

His first time on base in the bigs. Nice.

by Azreous on Sep 25, 2008 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Double for Drew

Runners at second and third, no outs. Come on, guys!

"Now, this is the dumbest thing I've ever heard [Hank Steinbrenner] say, and this is the third time I've said that this season."

by kishi on Sep 24, 2008 8:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wolf smokes a two bagger down the rf line!

2nd and 3rd with nobody out!!!

by foulpole on Sep 24, 2008 8:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Come on DBACKS!!!!!

You can Do IT!!!!

Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong.

by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 24, 2008 8:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

1-1 on CY

Base Hit!!

2-1 RBI single for CY!

Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong.

by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 24, 2008 9:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

2-1!

Runners at the corners, still no outs!

"Now, this is the dumbest thing I've ever heard [Hank Steinbrenner] say, and this is the third time I've said that this season."

by kishi on Sep 24, 2008 9:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ribby single for CY!!!

Runners at the corners with still nobody out!!

by foulpole on Sep 24, 2008 9:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hale stopped

Drew? Wow. that had to hurt.

Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong.

by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 24, 2008 9:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

probably a good move

on the play though, hearing the radio guys talk about it.

Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong.

by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 24, 2008 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And he scores anyway

Better that situation than out at home, runner on first only.

by snakecharmer on Sep 24, 2008 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

indeed.

Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong.

by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 24, 2008 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

83 runs batted in for CY

Wainwright all over the place

Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong.

by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 24, 2008 9:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

TIED!

but now we have two outs

Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong.

by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 24, 2008 9:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

4-6-3.

:-(

by foulpole on Sep 24, 2008 9:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Another bb for Dunn.

lol

by foulpole on Sep 24, 2008 9:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Dunn BB

I want to be in Haren's harem.

by luckycc on Sep 24, 2008 9:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Tracy pop up

ends the inning.

I want to be in Haren's harem.

by luckycc on Sep 24, 2008 9:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Max retires the lead off man!!!

by foulpole on Sep 24, 2008 9:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

A solid 1-2-3 third for Max!

by foulpole on Sep 24, 2008 9:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Interesting journey home

Not happy with the second inning. I liked the third much more. :-)

by Jim McLennan on Sep 24, 2008 9:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

pitch count after three:

Max 45

Wainwright 54

by foulpole on Sep 24, 2008 9:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

E-5.

Sheesh!!!

by foulpole on Sep 24, 2008 9:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You sound

Almost… surprised.

by Jim McLennan on Sep 24, 2008 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

we are

our own worst enemies.

Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong.

by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 24, 2008 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What is that? like 32 on the year for Reynolds?

by foulpole on Sep 24, 2008 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

DFA his incompetent behind!

Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong.

by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 24, 2008 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

1st and 3rd with nobody out.

:-(

Bear down, Max!!

by foulpole on Sep 24, 2008 9:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That was a big K there.

by foulpole on Sep 24, 2008 9:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Now let’s roll a double play ball!

by foulpole on Sep 24, 2008 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong.

by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 24, 2008 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

D'oh!

Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong.

by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 24, 2008 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Interesting Trivia Q on FSN

Name the last Cardinal, before McGwire, to lead the NL in homers.

My first guess was Jack Clark. Second guess George Hendrick. I got it on the third try. One of history’s most underrated sluggers.

(My dad mentioned him occasionally, but ya never hear about this guy anymore.)

by Diamondhacks on Sep 24, 2008 9:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Aww

Scherzer looks like his daddy.

I want to be in Haren's harem.

by luckycc on Sep 24, 2008 9:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I wonder

does his Daddy have 2 different colored eyes too? That would be cool.

by TwinnerA on Sep 24, 2008 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Another solid hit for Wolf!

by foulpole on Sep 24, 2008 9:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

A loud out for CY. Wainwright isn’t fooling anyone right now.

by foulpole on Sep 24, 2008 9:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Max hit his pretty good as well.

by foulpole on Sep 24, 2008 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice single through the box for CJ!

by foulpole on Sep 24, 2008 9:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Conor gets a hit

2 on 2 out

Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong.

by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 24, 2008 9:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Two on for Dunn

A hit with RISP would be good about now. A homer, of course, even better…

by Jim McLennan on Sep 24, 2008 9:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

2nd and 3rd

on a wild pitch

walk dunn?

Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong.

by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 24, 2008 9:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wild pitch moves them up 90 feet.

What are the odds that Dunn gets anything to hit here?

by foulpole on Sep 24, 2008 9:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Consecutive bullet count

on Wainwright: 3

C’mon Dunn

by Diamondhacks on Sep 24, 2008 9:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

C'mon Chad

No fly balls. Slap a single somewhere

by Diamondhacks on Sep 24, 2008 9:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It is kinda nice to have at least one batter on the squad that gets pitched around frequently.

by foulpole on Sep 24, 2008 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

From The Hindsight Dept:

Nothing against Tracy, who’s a better #5 fit than Upton or Reynolds, but our best contact/OBP hitter (CoJack) should bat behind Dunn, not in front of him. It’s been drivin’ me crazy all week.
Not batting Dunn third on this team is ridiculous

by Diamondhacks on Sep 24, 2008 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t have a problem with Trace behind Dunn vs. a RHP.

by foulpole on Sep 24, 2008 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

In this situation

you’re right. later in the game though, you’re just helping out Larussa batting lefties (which we have in short supply) back to back.

But you’re right – I’m mostly just frustrated.

by Diamondhacks on Sep 24, 2008 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

lefties (which we have in short supply)

IMO, that’s one of the biggest problems that have. With our current roster construction we have to many pull hitting RHBs.

by foulpole on Sep 24, 2008 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

…pull-hitting, whiffing, unproductive out making, unable to bunt or hit-and-run or hit the effin ball in fair territory RHBs

by Diamondhacks on Sep 24, 2008 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fail

Time is running out. We need to get that run back.

by Jim McLennan on Sep 24, 2008 9:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

both

of them

Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong.

by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 24, 2008 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ouch!

Another run for the bad guys.

:-(

by foulpole on Sep 24, 2008 9:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

2-4

I want to be in Haren's harem.

by luckycc on Sep 24, 2008 9:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Not good

I don’t have confidence in our offense being able to get one run back in four innings, never mind two…

by Jim McLennan on Sep 24, 2008 9:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm surprised. Wainwright hasnt exactly

been overpowering. I have less confidence in our ability to hold StL to four.

by Diamondhacks on Sep 24, 2008 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

pitch count after five:

Max 85

Wainwright 82

by foulpole on Sep 24, 2008 9:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Evening all...

hoping for a win…lets go Whitesell!

by AF DBacks Fanatic on Sep 24, 2008 10:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Two on after the HBP!

by foulpole on Sep 24, 2008 10:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I know it's only one game

but one difference that’s hard not to notice between the two clubs is how STL makes productive outs and we dont. I dont think it’s only coaching, btw, but a combo of coaching, organizational philosophy and player ability.

But considering our team speed, which is quite good, it’s a strategic blunder and huge wasted “opportunity”.

by Diamondhacks on Sep 24, 2008 10:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Another bb for Wainwright!

Let’s hope he serves up a meatball to CY.

by foulpole on Sep 24, 2008 10:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

walk! Bases loaded for CY

Redemption time…make up for a disappointing season!

by AF DBacks Fanatic on Sep 24, 2008 10:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Awful, awful, awful

The pitcher has just loaded the bases on two walks and a hit batter. And you swing at the first offering.

More evidence why Young is not a #2 hitter. He just doesn’t have the patience for it.

by Jim McLennan on Sep 24, 2008 10:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

man u guys can't get a big hit to save your lives

you look like the us all year lol

im pulling for u guys though cmon damn it

hate them friggin dodgers

this team is utter rubbish...

by TuLoRocks2008 on Sep 24, 2008 10:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hey!

It’s Juan Cruz! Wish we’d seen him last night rather than Rauch.

by TwinnerA on Sep 24, 2008 10:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ha

Pretty much exactly what I was coming here to post, and I’d already been beaten to the punch by two people. =)

"Now, this is the dumbest thing I've ever heard [Hank Steinbrenner] say, and this is the third time I've said that this season."

by kishi on Sep 24, 2008 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Now

What makes this two-run deficit different from last night’s?

Anyone? Anyone?

by Jim McLennan on Sep 24, 2008 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Difference is, tonight's game

was less important than last night’s game, since our loss last night makes it less and less likely any of these games will count for anything anymore.

So, ya know, you put the crappy reliever into the game last night, and save the super good reliever for today….

Josh Byrnes: PLEEEEEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE RE-SIGN ADAM DUNN!!

by DbacksSkins on Sep 25, 2008 1:55 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey look!

Juan Cruz.

I want to be in Haren's harem.

by luckycc on Sep 24, 2008 10:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Juan who?

Is he still on the 40 man?

by Diamondhacks on Sep 24, 2008 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dunno.

But he obviously sucks though. We should DFA him.

Josh Byrnes: PLEEEEEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE RE-SIGN ADAM DUNN!!

by DbacksSkins on Sep 25, 2008 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

contract the team!

the only way to solve the issues

Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong.

by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 25, 2008 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey! Look!!

The Dbacks finally made front page news at MLB.com!!

Josh Byrnes: PLEEEEEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE RE-SIGN ADAM DUNN!!

by DbacksSkins on Sep 24, 2008 10:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

lmao +1

this team is utter rubbish...

by TuLoRocks2008 on Sep 24, 2008 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

question of the night

is he going to break the record tonight

this team is utter rubbish...

by TuLoRocks2008 on Sep 24, 2008 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeaaaa...metoo

in a non homosexual way

this team is utter rubbish...

by TuLoRocks2008 on Sep 24, 2008 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Careful....

Josh Byrnes: PLEEEEEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE RE-SIGN ADAM DUNN!!

by DbacksSkins on Sep 24, 2008 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well,

it’s the 7th inning, and since last striking out, Reynolds has walked and popped out.

Josh Byrnes: PLEEEEEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE RE-SIGN ADAM DUNN!!

by DbacksSkins on Sep 24, 2008 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That assumes

we actually score some runs then.

Or something.

Josh Byrnes: PLEEEEEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE RE-SIGN ADAM DUNN!!

by DbacksSkins on Sep 24, 2008 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

or leave many on base

this team is utter rubbish...

by TuLoRocks2008 on Sep 24, 2008 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

a.k.a HurdLogic

this team is utter rubbish...

by TuLoRocks2008 on Sep 24, 2008 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hurdle n Melvin

must hangout a lot….they seem to have the same kind of views

this team is utter rubbish...

by TuLoRocks2008 on Sep 24, 2008 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Both got incredibly lucky last year

Leading to a complacent belief that more of the same was just perfect in 2008?

by Jim McLennan on Sep 24, 2008 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes sir

this team is utter rubbish...

by TuLoRocks2008 on Sep 24, 2008 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And since Hurdle made the Series

and BoMel was MOTY, neither of them will be fired. :-(

Josh Byrnes: PLEEEEEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE RE-SIGN ADAM DUNN!!

by DbacksSkins on Sep 24, 2008 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

very unfortunate :(

this team is utter rubbish...

by TuLoRocks2008 on Sep 24, 2008 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tony Clark pinch hitting

right handed against a righty, with the season in the balance? This is the best we can do, after September call ups?

Pls dont blame Clark when he whiffs. Blame the….(oh never mind).

by Diamondhacks on Sep 24, 2008 10:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I goofed

but TC still strikes out. What a pathetic AB

by Diamondhacks on Sep 24, 2008 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I didn’t have a big problem with that move. No reason to have Trace face the LHP and TC is a switch so when the Cards make their pitching move we still have a switch at the plate.

by foulpole on Sep 24, 2008 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And....

foulpole’s obsession continues.

Josh Byrnes: PLEEEEEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE RE-SIGN ADAM DUNN!!

by DbacksSkins on Sep 24, 2008 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd rather stay with the "hot?" bat, not the book answer

TC has done virtually nothing for us…doesn’t Webb have better avg with RISP?.

by AF DBacks Fanatic on Sep 24, 2008 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And almost a better avg

Clark 13-for-63 with AZ., a .206 average. What a fabulous pickup.

by Jim McLennan on Sep 24, 2008 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

But

he provides valuable leadership in the clubhouse! See? Look at that leadership.

Josh Byrnes: PLEEEEEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE RE-SIGN ADAM DUNN!!

by DbacksSkins on Sep 25, 2008 1:56 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So who is trade bait in the off season?

I’d been willing to listen to offers for:
Byrnes; Tracy; Rauch; CY; Reynolds
Make sure we never see Lyon again
Can we trade Melvin?
Resign Randy? Or just let Scherzer and Petit or Peguero start?

by AF DBacks Fanatic on Sep 24, 2008 10:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Re-sign Dunn.

Then, trade Byrnes, Reynolds, and Melvin to the Yankees for Alex Rodriguez. (Hey — he’s NOT a “real Yankee”, right?? We can get him for cheap!!) Plus, Hank will be looking for a new manager after Joe Girardi imploded this year and Joe Torre made the playoffs in a shitty division. Why not try the 2007 NL MOTY?

Josh Byrnes: PLEEEEEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE RE-SIGN ADAM DUNN!!

by DbacksSkins on Sep 24, 2008 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm good with ARod

Not overly sold on Dunn…Manny has 50 RBIs for the Dodgers, how many does Dunn have for us? 10? Even pro-rating the differences, a “superstar” like Dunn should have more contact…maybe Dunn should be the leadoff guy and our pitcher should bat 8th

by AF DBacks Fanatic on Sep 24, 2008 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's not the kind of batter Dunn is, though.

And to appreciate Dunn, and what he brings you, you have to accept that.

RBIs? He’s tops on the team in RBIs for the season. RBIs are a bullshit stat to measure a hitter by.

Josh Byrnes: PLEEEEEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE RE-SIGN ADAM DUNN!!

by DbacksSkins on Sep 24, 2008 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Frustration understood

but skins’ is right. Aside from the strikeouts, Dunn helps address this lineup’s weaknesses very well. He works counts and gets on base a ton, plus he mauls right handed pitching. ‘course, if you bat him cleanup in this lineup, followed by Reynolds, Upton or Tony Clark, few sane RHP’s will pitch to him. So he needs someone to bat him around.

Comparing him to Manny is understandable but not really fair. Ramirez might be one of the ten best right handed hitters in history. Dunn’s never been as good as Manny – never will be. Doesnt mean he isnt a very valuable player in his own right.

by Diamondhacks on Sep 25, 2008 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ha good one

hey O dawg is a free agent right….if so i really reallyy hope we make a push for him

this team is utter rubbish...

by TuLoRocks2008 on Sep 24, 2008 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

go for it

I hope we move Reynolds or bring up Merchan…no other 2B free agent is worth it…

by AF DBacks Fanatic on Sep 24, 2008 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yea very true

this team is utter rubbish...

by TuLoRocks2008 on Sep 24, 2008 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

A Web Gem for Wolf!

——-!

by foulpole on Sep 24, 2008 10:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Random thought

Think we don’t see 100 sb seaons ala Vince Coleman anymore because of the steroid era relied so heavily on the long ball and managers and players forgot when/how to steal?

by AF DBacks Fanatic on Sep 24, 2008 10:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Could be

Sit back and wait for the three-run homer? That might change: at the present time, we’re on track to have one player with a 40-HR season. The last time that happened was 1989.

by Jim McLennan on Sep 24, 2008 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Interesting

That wasnt on my radar at all. Doubly interesting because 1989 was the first year I became concerned (retroactively) about steroid use.

by Diamondhacks on Sep 25, 2008 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hmmm....

coincidence??

Doubtful.

Josh Byrnes: PLEEEEEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE RE-SIGN ADAM DUNN!!

by DbacksSkins on Sep 25, 2008 1:56 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

alright im outta here

goodluck u guys…unfortunately though looks like time is running out but hey anything can happen….laterr

this team is utter rubbish...

by TuLoRocks2008 on Sep 24, 2008 10:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This is the subject line

This is the Message area. Here is where you write your message. You should not write your entire post in the Subject line.

Please don’t confuse the two. They are there to serve you.

Carry on.

It's like living with a six-year old.

by 4 Corners Fan on Sep 24, 2008 10:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wolf smokes a lead off double to start our 9th!

——-!

by foulpole on Sep 24, 2008 10:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

We already talked about cloning Webby, right?

Well…. what about like 9 clones of Drew, 5 clones of Webby? Then all we have to do is sign some relievers.

Josh Byrnes: PLEEEEEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE RE-SIGN ADAM DUNN!!

by DbacksSkins on Sep 24, 2008 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

*8 clones of Drew.

Although, Drew can probably pitch, too.

Josh Byrnes: PLEEEEEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE RE-SIGN ADAM DUNN!!

by DbacksSkins on Sep 24, 2008 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

word…
email Josh Byrnes

by AF DBacks Fanatic on Sep 24, 2008 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

........

I hate this team, I hate Chris Young, and I hate Bob Melvin.

Josh Byrnes: PLEEEEEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE RE-SIGN ADAM DUNN!!

by DbacksSkins on Sep 24, 2008 10:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You have GOT to be freaking KIDDING me....

Josh Byrnes: PLEEEEEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE RE-SIGN ADAM DUNN!!

by DbacksSkins on Sep 24, 2008 10:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What happened?

I switched over to Prison Break online.

by TwinnerA on Sep 24, 2008 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Drew hits a leadoff double.

With no outs, CY pops out in foul territory, CoJack hits a screaming liner right to the 3B, and then…. well, you saw Dunn.

Josh Byrnes: PLEEEEEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE RE-SIGN ADAM DUNN!!

by DbacksSkins on Sep 24, 2008 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What's wrong with putting the tying run on base, Gracie?

It makes it less likely we’ll get a hit.

Josh Byrnes: PLEEEEEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE RE-SIGN ADAM DUNN!!

by DbacksSkins on Sep 24, 2008 10:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

and the rental fails

Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong.

by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 24, 2008 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He was PISSED, too.

Slammed the plate with the bat.

Josh Byrnes: PLEEEEEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE RE-SIGN ADAM DUNN!!

by DbacksSkins on Sep 24, 2008 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

good to see some emotion. He can’t do it all by himself.

Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong.

by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 24, 2008 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bucknor missed

the 3-1 pitch. Shoulda been ball four. I think that’s what Adam’s ticked about….besides losing the game, of course.

by Diamondhacks on Sep 25, 2008 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ahhh

I’m at work catching it on Yahoo gameday and sometimes the radio, so I miss the details like that.

Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong.

by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 25, 2008 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah.

IIRC, Grace’s exact words were, “C’mon…. they’re trying to pitch around me here!” when Dunn turned around and said something to the umpire.

Josh Byrnes: PLEEEEEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE RE-SIGN ADAM DUNN!!

by DbacksSkins on Sep 25, 2008 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

and we

felt abandoning the original plan of ‘build from within’ was right why again?

chasing a mirage and now what?

Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong.

by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 24, 2008 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Blech.

No Pujols. No Ludwick. No Glaus.

And, we score all of 2 runs.

Josh Byrnes: PLEEEEEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE RE-SIGN ADAM DUNN!!

by DbacksSkins on Sep 24, 2008 11:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think that’s the season, friends.

It's like living with a six-year old.

by 4 Corners Fan on Sep 24, 2008 11:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

handwriting’s on the wall

Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong.

by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 24, 2008 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It’s been there for quite a while.

by TwinnerA on Sep 24, 2008 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I had

my eyes closed though

Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong.

by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 24, 2008 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Magic number

for azwildcat is at 2

Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong.

by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 24, 2008 11:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

San Diego 2-1 up in the fourth

Nomar just homered, but the Dodgers still trail.

by Jim McLennan on Sep 24, 2008 11:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

2-2 in LA

Bases loaded with one out for Mandy…

by Jim McLennan on Sep 24, 2008 11:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

And he grounds out

Fortunately, there were two out. Nice to know we’re not the only team who leave the bases loaded.

by Jim McLennan on Sep 24, 2008 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dodgers ahead

On another Garciaparra RBI.

by Jim McLennan on Sep 24, 2008 11:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

going for the throat, something WE never could do.

Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong.

by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 24, 2008 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

From Nick Piecoro on azcentral.com
"Not much energy in the Diamondbacks clubhouse before the game today, the mood just not the same as it had been the past couple of weeks.

Certainly there’s hope that the momentum that this team has built from winning seven of their past nine won’t go up in flames, but it feels like it has.

Feels as flat in there as Randy Johnson’s slider was to Ryan Ludwick in the first inning last night, which, come to think of it, was exactly the moment when everything deflated.

They certainly dug themselves a pretty deep hole and were going to need some help from the Padres and Giants anyway, so this thing wasn’t lost last night. It was lost in Los Angeles and San Francisco and San Diego, lost against the Braves and Pirates and Marlins and all those other must-win series they didn’t manage to win earlier in the season.

But they had a bounce in their step in recent days. It’s not there anymore.

They need a Hail Mary to win the division. The Dodgers’ odds are at 98 percent, the Diamondbacks’ at 2 percent, according to Baseball Prospectus.

With their elimination number at three, if they lose both of these games here in St. Louis and the Dodgers beat the Padres tonight, the Diamondbacks will be done by the time they board their flight home.

Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong.

by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 24, 2008 11:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

If it is over by the time they leave St. Louis, there’s still CO to hopefully slap around this weekend. Haren is going for #17, Webb needs #23 to hold off Timmy and it would be nice if Randy could actually get a win here in Sept.

by TwinnerA on Sep 25, 2008 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

and now 6-4, dodgers

Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong.

by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 25, 2008 12:38 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Not that it matters anymore,

but Dodgers 12, Padres 4.

Josh Byrnes: PLEEEEEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE RE-SIGN ADAM DUNN!!

by DbacksSkins on Sep 25, 2008 1:32 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Comments For This Post Are Closed


User Tools

Welcome to the AZ SnakePit, the SB Nation blog about the Arizona Diamondbacks. Summer in Phoenix: "Would you like to sit on the porch? Or would you rather live?" -- Eddie Izzard.
Start posting about the Diamondbacks »

Join SB Nation and dive into communities focused on all your favorite teams.

FanPosts

Community blog posts and discussion.

Recent FanPosts

39135485-59af19dbb26654095f910f34176af094_4ae8a81e-scaled_small
Predictions Group
Mrsnakepit_small
[OT]: Oscar nominations
Square-watermelon_small
Dana Eveland DFAed
Bmurph_small
Spring Fest 2010 - Vote for the Date
Beachrosei_small
Eric Byrnes a Mariner
Up_small
All Dbacks SGA bobbleheads
Cimg0181_small
How do you mend a broken sports heart?
Small
In-Depth Scouting Report (pitchers)
Ilikemony_small
I'm going through baseball withdrawls... and it's a month till pitchers and catchers report...
Golden_dome_small
Part 2 - A Retrospective Look at the Trade History of Josh Byrnes

+ New FanPost All FanPosts >


Manager

Mrsnakepit_small Jim McLennan

Bench coaches

Me_-_sp_studio_small snakecharmer

Gadsden_small DbacksSkins

Players

82283_small kishi

Meow2_small Azreous

Bmurph_small soco

Ilikemony_small Zephon

Keith_haring2_small Sprankton

Golden_dome_small IHateSouthBend