Gameday Thread, #138: 9/2 vs. Cardinals
St. Louis Cardinals @ Arizona Diamondbacks
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Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, to what we all hope is the first- well, second in a long string of Gameday Threads started by yours truly.
Backing me up in my campaign to carry my win streak to an unprecedented three games is the pitcher we've all been grumbling about missing starts, Yusmiero Petit. Petit hasn't pitched a lot of innings this season, but the guy deserves credit for going wherever the team needs him to be- in the starting rotation, out to the bullpen, bounced down to Tucson for a couple of months, and then back again. And in the meantime, what's he done on the field? A 2.83 ERA and a WHIP of 0.80. Thanks to the shuffling of the rotation, this is his first start since SnakePitFest, and he's riding a two game winning stream of his own. Of course, the Cardinals do have more offense than the Marlins or Astros, though Petit did earn a win against Saint Louis last year.
On the other side, the Cardinals will be sending out Adam Wainwright to end their four game slide. Wainwright spent about two and a half months on the DL with a sprained middle finger, an uncommon injury outside of New York. Despite that, he's put up some pretty good numbers, a 7-3 record and a 3.04 ERA. He's been pretty solid in his two starts back from rehab, putting up quality starts both times. Adam Dunn may be looking forward to seeing Waintwright on the mound though- he's 4 for 10 with a home run and two walks against Wainwright in his career. He's the only Diamondback who's got double digits in plate appearances against Wainwright, though.
In the glorious afterglow of yesterday's game, it's easy to feel shades of optimism about our offense here, particularly with the AP reports trumpeting the fact that Stephen Drew's been hitting .364 in our last 25 home games. Lately, of course, the bats have been- well, I'm not sure sporadic is a strong enough word here. In the last ten games, we've scored seven or more runs in three games, and two or fewer runs in five games. Guess what our record looks like in those games.
But now is not the day for such worries- now is the day for baseless, absolutely unbridled optimism! Let's go, Diamondbacks!
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Nothing to add yet
but I have to say, great GDT opening! ;)
by snakecharmer on
Sep 2, 2008 8:02 PM EDT
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what did you do???? you stole kishi’s opener!!!
"There are only two seasons: winter and baseball"
-- Bill Veeck
by njjohn on
Sep 2, 2008 9:01 PM EDT
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Oh and
did anyone catch right after the game last night? Stephen said he wasn’t sick. I don’t know where the booth got that from and which party is right, but either way, I hope they clarify during pregame tonight.
by snakecharmer on
Sep 2, 2008 8:03 PM EDT
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I did see that
At first I thought it was a “After a game like that, I feel fine” sort of thing, but he seemed to be okay in the interview. Odd.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
by kishi on
Sep 2, 2008 8:11 PM EDT
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I read somewhere after the game that
Juan Cruz wasn’t available as he had a 102 degree temperature, so they must have gotten the wrong idea that it was Drew.
by TwinnerA on
Sep 2, 2008 8:35 PM EDT
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Ah
Wonder if they just heard it in rushed conversation and mixed it up.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
by kishi on
Sep 2, 2008 8:43 PM EDT
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After checking,
I found it was the East Valley Tribune that said Cruz had a 102 temp. on Sunday and was given Monday off.
by TwinnerA on
Sep 2, 2008 8:53 PM EDT
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Eh....
Cruz, Drew, what’s the difference? Four letters.
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by DbacksSkins on
Sep 2, 2008 9:42 PM EDT
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At least they sound sort of similar.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
by kishi on
Sep 3, 2008 2:36 AM EDT
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I meant
in their surnames.
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by DbacksSkins on
Sep 3, 2008 2:47 AM EDT
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I probably should have said
what do they have in common?
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by DbacksSkins on
Sep 3, 2008 3:34 AM EDT
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What’s the word on Justin Upton and his head clanking?
It's like living with a six-year old.
by 4 Corners Fan on
Sep 2, 2008 8:10 PM EDT
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According to the East Valley Tribune
He’s doing okay. They said they might give him the day off today, but it doesn’t look like there’s any long-term problems.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
by kishi on
Sep 2, 2008 8:13 PM EDT
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hi everybody
i just got back from a debate trip to LA. BTW that was my little brother that did the fake foulpole thing. he called me just after i left and told me he was going to, i was hoping he wouldn’t, but he’s hell bent on being a troll (stupid rockies fan…) so anyway sorry about that, iv’e seen to it that it wont happen again. Its good to be back, and go dbacks!
are you suggesting coconuts migrate?
by utahdbacksfan on
Sep 2, 2008 8:34 PM EDT
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Just got a phone call from Kishi, he heard on the radio that Justin Upton WILL be starting tonight.
It's like living with a six-year old.
by 4 Corners Fan on
Sep 2, 2008 9:09 PM EDT
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Niiice.
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by DbacksSkins on
Sep 2, 2008 9:42 PM EDT
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Lineup
1. Drew, SS
2. Eckstein, 2B
3. Jackson, LF
4. Dunn, 1B
5. Reynolds, 3B
6. Young, CF
7. Montero, C
8. Upton, RF
9. Petit, P
The main story of course is Upton starting in RF, so Kishi is right.
by singaporedbacksfan on
Sep 2, 2008 9:21 PM EDT
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They switched in Romero on gameday
by singaporedbacksfan on
Sep 2, 2008 9:55 PM EDT
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Good news!!
Kershaw’s starting tonight for LA. Muahaha…
by snakecharmer on
Sep 2, 2008 9:31 PM EDT
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Lincecum getting shelled
in the 4th inning. Already gave up 3 runs and then a 2-run home to Troy Boy. Not a quality start for Lincecum today.
by TwinnerA on
Sep 2, 2008 9:40 PM EDT
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Romero is listed on the TV graphic for being in RF
I missed the pregame talk so I don’t know if that’s a mistake or if Upton was pulled last minute.
by snakecharmer on
Sep 2, 2008 9:41 PM EDT
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Hmm, Upton listed for Yahoo
But they don’t think the game has started yet, so…
by snakecharmer on
Sep 2, 2008 9:44 PM EDT
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Upton was pulled at the last minute, still has a bit of a headache, so they don’t want to push him.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
by kishi on
Sep 2, 2008 10:54 PM EDT
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Glaus single...
Hmm…. tread lightly with Mr. Pujols, Petit.
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by DbacksSkins on
Sep 2, 2008 9:45 PM EDT
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That'll do.
Now, do the same thing with that druggie Rick Ankiel.
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by DbacksSkins on
Sep 2, 2008 9:46 PM EDT
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Solid Inning of Work
So that’s what good starting pitching looks like…
by Gravity on
Sep 2, 2008 9:47 PM EDT
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Well, that works.
Now let’s get him some RUNS!!
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by DbacksSkins on
Sep 2, 2008 9:47 PM EDT
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Looks like it's Romero
He’s in the tv lineup.
by snakecharmer on
Sep 2, 2008 9:49 PM EDT
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Well, it's better to rest someone after a head injury
even if it seems to be nothing,he can always pinch hit.
We will meet in Red 3 at the hour of scampering.
by hotclaws on
Sep 2, 2008 9:58 PM EDT
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It's very off-topic
but Don LaFontaine died yesterday. This really bums me out.
"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson
by Scrbl on
Sep 2, 2008 9:50 PM EDT
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In a world
I read that today. Only 68 years old too.
by TwinnerA on
Sep 2, 2008 9:55 PM EDT
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Just for the happy memories
heres 5 Men in a Limo
And on a somewhat less sad note, John Leader’s (the second guy in the limo) website says he retired yesterday too. The world sounds a lot less interesting that it did before the weekend.
"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson
by Scrbl on
Sep 2, 2008 9:57 PM EDT
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Shouldn't that be rephased?
“In a world…without Don LaFontaine…things are much less interesting.”
(Say this in a deep voice.)
It's like living with a six-year old.
by 4 Corners Fan on
Sep 2, 2008 10:20 PM EDT
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There we go!
"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson
by Scrbl on
Sep 2, 2008 10:22 PM EDT
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Eckstein batting 2nd.
Yay.
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by DbacksSkins on
Sep 2, 2008 9:50 PM EDT
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Although
that 2-0 pitch looked a little high.
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by DbacksSkins on
Sep 2, 2008 9:51 PM EDT
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OK
been gone and out of touch since Thursday. Just how much has this team changed?
"Yeah I could have been king, but maybe I already am king. Hail to the king baby." Ash from Army of Darkness
by Turambar on
Sep 2, 2008 9:58 PM EDT
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anyone?
"Yeah I could have been king, but maybe I already am king. Hail to the king baby." Ash from Army of Darkness
by Turambar on
Sep 2, 2008 10:00 PM EDT
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::tries not to think::
about chopped liver.
"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson
by Scrbl on
Sep 2, 2008 10:03 PM EDT
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Webb, Haren and Johnson
were all replaced by pod-people, we have a new (and very scrappy) second baseman and Justin Upton’s brief reappearance was interrupted by pick-off throw to the head. It’s been an interesting weekend.
"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson
by Scrbl on
Sep 2, 2008 10:01 PM EDT
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Since Thursday?
Hmm… since then, we’re only up 2 1/2 games instead of 3 1/2 because the Dodgers took 2 of 3. Our starting pitching has continued to completely suck it up, but the offense reappeared yesterday (mainly in the form of Stephen Drew) and bailed out Johnson.
Changes? Added Eckstein, Romero, Slaten, D’Antona, Hammock, and a few others I can’t think of.
by snakecharmer on
Sep 2, 2008 10:01 PM EDT
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interesting times
God willing all these changes wont be for naught
"Yeah I could have been king, but maybe I already am king. Hail to the king baby." Ash from Army of Darkness
by Turambar on
Sep 2, 2008 10:07 PM EDT
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Wainwright hitting in front of Izturis? Thats interesting…
by singaporedbacksfan on
Sep 2, 2008 9:58 PM EDT
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They did it yesterday too
Think it’s one of LaRussa’s general tactics to have the pitcher in the #8 spot. More chance of getting people on base for Pujols.
by Jim McLennan on
Sep 2, 2008 10:03 PM EDT
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Evening folks
With no rush to post a Gameday Thread – thanks, Kishi, very helpful as I was dealing with some irritating hackage this afternoon – went out for curry before heading home. Sounds like the Petit Unit is doing well so far. Let’s hope the Diamondbacks can get him some support!
by Jim McLennan on
Sep 2, 2008 10:03 PM EDT
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Mmmm curry
Makes my spaghetti look like weak sauce.
by snakecharmer on
Sep 2, 2008 10:04 PM EDT
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Irritating Hackage
present and accounted for.
Go Dbacks!
by Diamondhacks on
Sep 2, 2008 10:04 PM EDT
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LOL
Yeah, it’s all about you, ’hacks. :-)
by Jim McLennan on
Sep 2, 2008 10:05 PM EDT
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Oh
[in Roseanne Rosannadanna voice]:
Never mind!
by Diamondhacks on
Sep 2, 2008 10:09 PM EDT
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+1
It's like living with a six-year old.
by 4 Corners Fan on
Sep 2, 2008 10:21 PM EDT
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Oh and don’t forget, we can always take turns posting the Gameday Thread… especially if kishi loses. :) Just email one of us, we’ll get it up… no need to rush!!
by snakecharmer on
Sep 2, 2008 10:05 PM EDT
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We could use less of the K and more of the special
by TwinnerA on
Sep 2, 2008 10:05 PM EDT
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Montero again?
I don’t mind when he catches Petit, but don’t want to see him when Randy starts.
by TwinnerA on
Sep 2, 2008 10:06 PM EDT
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Oh poo :-(
We will meet in Red 3 at the hour of scampering.
by hotclaws on
Sep 2, 2008 10:16 PM EDT
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Ick
And it was going so well, too. Still, we have to wait until we’re four runs down before we come back – isn’t that how it works? :-)
by Jim McLennan on
Sep 2, 2008 10:18 PM EDT
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my theory is..
nowadays the bats don’t turn up till the 6th inning
We will meet in Red 3 at the hour of scampering.
by hotclaws on
Sep 2, 2008 10:19 PM EDT
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As Long As
We can keep theirs from coming around until then.
by Gravity on
Sep 2, 2008 10:20 PM EDT
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Oooooh.....
too late.
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by DbacksSkins on
Sep 2, 2008 10:22 PM EDT
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Gracie was blabbering about how Glaus was such a good pickup for St. Louis and Glaus getting homers and bam, he hits out for 2 runs. Sigh.
by TwinnerA on
Sep 2, 2008 10:19 PM EDT
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Giants helping out
5-5 in the 6th at Colorado.
by snakecharmer on
Sep 2, 2008 10:20 PM EDT
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God I Wish
We didn’t have to mention Rockies scores.
by Gravity on
Sep 2, 2008 10:20 PM EDT
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Lincecum out after 5 innings
5 H, 5 ER, 2 BB, 6 SO. Not his best. That’s okay. I got a little sick of hearing/reading how he was now the Cy Young favorite.
by TwinnerA on
Sep 2, 2008 10:24 PM EDT
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I'm thinking of making a Manny voodoo doll
and breaking it’s arm
We will meet in Red 3 at the hour of scampering.
by hotclaws on
Sep 2, 2008 10:24 PM EDT
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Don't you just stick pins in a voodoo doll?
by TwinnerA on
Sep 2, 2008 10:26 PM EDT
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Dunno.
In Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom, they stuck one in a fire, too.
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by DbacksSkins on
Sep 2, 2008 10:29 PM EDT
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I wonder if that's in Lego Indy
I’m not very far yet…
by snakecharmer on
Sep 2, 2008 10:29 PM EDT
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Lego Indy?
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by DbacksSkins on
Sep 2, 2008 10:36 PM EDT
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Lego Star Wars...
There’s Lego Indiana Jones too. I got it for Wii for my birthday. :) It’s on computer platforms too though. They’re quite fun.
by snakecharmer on
Sep 2, 2008 10:37 PM EDT
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Hmmm....
interesting……
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by DbacksSkins on
Sep 2, 2008 10:38 PM EDT
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Personally
I’m looking forward to Lego Batman. That one looks cool.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
by kishi on
Sep 2, 2008 11:00 PM EDT
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AQctually
voodoo dolls for cursing are a European invention blackguarding African religion,they were used for healing.It’s European witches who used to make poppets and do horrible things to them for sympathetic magic.
We will meet in Red 3 at the hour of scampering.
by hotclaws on
Sep 2, 2008 10:29 PM EDT
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I support
this course of action.
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by DbacksSkins on
Sep 2, 2008 11:44 PM EDT
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Interesting game in Florida
Atlanta 14, Florida 14, in the eighth…
by Jim McLennan on
Sep 2, 2008 10:31 PM EDT
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Really!
Wow! Talk about a football score…. and it could easily become 17-14…
by snakecharmer on
Sep 2, 2008 10:33 PM EDT
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Crap!
Another walk followed by another homer.
by TwinnerA on
Sep 2, 2008 10:31 PM EDT
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Oh bugger
We will meet in Red 3 at the hour of scampering.
by hotclaws on
Sep 2, 2008 10:31 PM EDT
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Yadier Freaking Molina?
Two nights in a row??
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by DbacksSkins on
Sep 2, 2008 10:31 PM EDT
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There you go
Four runs behind. Time to get going… :-(
by Jim McLennan on
Sep 2, 2008 10:32 PM EDT
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So... what version of Petit is this?
Besides, clearly, PodPetit or Petit Beta….
by snakecharmer on
Sep 2, 2008 10:33 PM EDT
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Yuseless Petit
We will meet in Red 3 at the hour of scampering.
by hotclaws on
Sep 2, 2008 10:34 PM EDT
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+1
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by DbacksSkins on
Sep 3, 2008 12:42 AM EDT
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What ever it was
That affected Haren, Webb and Johnson has clearly spread to Petit… :-(
by Jim McLennan on
Sep 2, 2008 10:34 PM EDT
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either
they all got nailed in the ribs, or the Invasion of the Body Snatchers has begun with Arizona starting pitchers. Somebody throw a Dodgers fan off a cliff and see if they react.
I'll make it.
by Shums on
Sep 2, 2008 10:40 PM EDT
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Either way,
I’m not a fan of these developments.
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by DbacksSkins on
Sep 3, 2008 1:20 AM EDT
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And now
Felipe Freaking Lopez again too??
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by DbacksSkins on
Sep 2, 2008 10:34 PM EDT
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May have to go look for new Prison Break online as I missed it yesterday.
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Sep 2, 2008 10:34 PM EDT
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I didnt realize it
til just now, but STL is tied (w Cubs) for league high OPS+ (112)
Wainwright’s curve looks very good. Monday’s come from behind win is looking bigger than ever.
by Diamondhacks on
Sep 2, 2008 10:41 PM EDT
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oh sure
cards have a pretty weak pen. it could happen, but getting rid of wainwright looks tough, that’s all
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Sep 2, 2008 10:52 PM EDT
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We have three LHB out of the next 4 batters due up. Let’s hope they can get to Wainwright in our 5th.
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Sep 2, 2008 11:00 PM EDT
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As usual,
foulpole is constantly obsessed with handedness.
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Sep 2, 2008 11:31 PM EDT
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CoJack doubles.
Good start?
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Sep 2, 2008 10:42 PM EDT
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A hit, a palpable hit!
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Sep 2, 2008 10:42 PM EDT
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Breaking up
the no-hitter.
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by DbacksSkins on
Sep 2, 2008 10:44 PM EDT
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C'mon, Mark!
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Sep 2, 2008 10:44 PM EDT
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Pretty borderline call there....
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Sep 2, 2008 10:45 PM EDT
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Dammit.....
GOTTA SWING THERE, MARK!!
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by DbacksSkins on
Sep 2, 2008 10:47 PM EDT
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The Silence here is deafening…
by singaporedbacksfan on
Sep 2, 2008 10:52 PM EDT
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I'm watching Takishi's Castle
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by hotclaws on
Sep 2, 2008 10:56 PM EDT
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thanks for breaking up that unnerving string of Napoleons
by Diamondhacks on
Sep 2, 2008 10:54 PM EDT
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Hmm
Okay, this isn’t anything that they can’t solve by batting around in the bottom of the fifth.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
by kishi on
Sep 2, 2008 10:56 PM EDT
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I'd feel a lot better
if we had Shepherd Book in the lineup
I'll make it.
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Sep 2, 2008 10:57 PM EDT
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[breathless Mickey Rooney voice, wide eyed Judy Garland looking over his shoulder]:
Why, this idea is crazy enough, it just might work!
Whaddya say, gang ?!
by Diamondhacks on
Sep 2, 2008 11:00 PM EDT
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Slaten did his job.
Let’s get some runzzz!!!
by foulpole on
Sep 2, 2008 10:58 PM EDT
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Okay
Bottom of the sixth, then.
Come on, offense, Wainwright isn’t this good.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
by kishi on
Sep 2, 2008 11:03 PM EDT
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A 9 pitch 5th and Wainwright’s pitch count is only 68.
:-(
by foulpole on
Sep 2, 2008 11:04 PM EDT
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Sigh
Hard to get into the game when the pitching and offense seem intent on taking us out of it. :-(
by Jim McLennan on
Sep 2, 2008 11:03 PM EDT
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hooookay.
I’m gonna go away again.
Do some Harmony I homework or somethin…
What the hell has happened to this team?
by emilylovesthedbacks on
Sep 2, 2008 11:08 PM EDT
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No orange soda tonight.
Promise. Actually, none since the last time.
by emilylovesthedbacks on
Sep 2, 2008 11:09 PM EDT
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The problem?
We don’t seem to get the same team two games in a row.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
by kishi on
Sep 2, 2008 11:09 PM EDT
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Rosales
Not on his game tonight.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
by kishi on
Sep 2, 2008 11:14 PM EDT
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Nobody on their game tonight
No Dbacks at least…
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Sep 2, 2008 11:17 PM EDT
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Too bad
I felt I brought my A material to starting the thread today, but the team just couldn’t support it.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
by kishi on
Sep 2, 2008 11:18 PM EDT
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You did, you really did
Don’t blame yourself for this one…
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Sep 2, 2008 11:19 PM EDT
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Maybe I’m just meant to be an emergency spot starter.
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by kishi on
Sep 2, 2008 11:24 PM EDT
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You are still 2-1 when doing the GDT, though, right?
It's like living with a six-year old.
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Sep 2, 2008 11:25 PM EDT
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That's not a bad record at all
Don’t worry, you’re up for the September call-ups… we’ll see how you do in a part-time role…
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Sep 2, 2008 11:27 PM EDT
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I'll take the Yusmeiro Petit role
Sometimes I’ll start threads, sometimes I’ll just come in for the overflow, wherever I’m needed. =)
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by kishi on
Sep 2, 2008 11:30 PM EDT
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Definitely in
the overflow role, you are very greatly appreciated! :)
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Sep 2, 2008 11:30 PM EDT
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Who does that make me?
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Sep 2, 2008 11:31 PM EDT
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Didn't we establish this already?
You’re the Orlando Hudson of the Snakepit.
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by kishi on
Sep 2, 2008 11:33 PM EDT
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Badda bing!
But amongst relievers?
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by DbacksSkins on
Sep 2, 2008 11:39 PM EDT
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Well Juan Cruz is pretty chatty...
but quite a bit taller and darker skinned than you…
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Sep 2, 2008 11:41 PM EDT
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Are you trying to imply
that I’m short?
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Sep 2, 2008 11:56 PM EDT
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Hey, I'm still 2-0 for now
We could still turn this one around.
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by kishi on
Sep 2, 2008 11:29 PM EDT
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and now a two run double for Wainwright. He’s killing us tonight.
by foulpole on
Sep 2, 2008 11:15 PM EDT
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Manny whiffs with the bases loaded
he aint got nothin’!
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Sep 2, 2008 11:17 PM EDT
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Hey, Leo
How many times are you planning to load the bases this inning?
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by kishi on
Sep 2, 2008 11:21 PM EDT
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Wow, Rosales having a bad night...
but, at some point, someone’s got to take one for the team.
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I don’t think that they were giving Poo anything to hit there.
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Sep 2, 2008 11:21 PM EDT
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Really lucky we only gave up three runs there.
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by kishi on
Sep 2, 2008 11:24 PM EDT
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Let’s hope that Wainwright is rusty from their long half inning.
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Sep 2, 2008 11:25 PM EDT
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I have a really bad feeling
That tonight is the night the division race finally turns the wrong way for us.
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Sep 2, 2008 11:28 PM EDT
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As opposed to
those two games we lost to the Dodgers?
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by DbacksSkins on
Sep 2, 2008 11:32 PM EDT
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How about a little levity, Gravity?
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Sep 2, 2008 11:32 PM EDT
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JEFF SALAZAR!!!
TRIPLE!! That’s my boyyyy! Man I can’t wait to see him next week.
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Sep 2, 2008 11:28 PM EDT
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Solid leadoff three bagger for Sally!
——-!
by foulpole on
Sep 2, 2008 11:28 PM EDT
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Nice triple for Salazar!
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by kishi on
Sep 2, 2008 11:28 PM EDT
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Hey look, we scored a run!!
Eckstein’s looking good so far.
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Sep 2, 2008 11:30 PM EDT
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Another RBI for Eckstein
So far, been pretty happy with him.
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Eckstein!
He’s so little and scrappy!!
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Sep 2, 2008 11:31 PM EDT
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CoJack takes a walk
How about a bomb here, Dunn?
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by kishi on
Sep 2, 2008 11:34 PM EDT
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Well,
at least CoJack is doing his job trying to get Wainwright out of the game.
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Yes!
Ron Villone! Maybe he’ll walk Adam Dunn on 4 pitches again!
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by DbacksSkins on
Sep 2, 2008 11:35 PM EDT
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And then get tossed an inning later?
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by kishi on
Sep 2, 2008 11:36 PM EDT
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Sweet.....
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by DbacksSkins on
Sep 2, 2008 11:37 PM EDT
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Alas
It’s that other thing we try to forget Adam Dunn does.
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by kishi on
Sep 2, 2008 11:41 PM EDT
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Argh.
8 pitch K.
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C'mon!
At LEAST make this score a little more respectable.
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by DbacksSkins on
Sep 2, 2008 11:43 PM EDT
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Oy
what’s going on here?
What's for dinner, mum? Heinz Baked Beans.
by soco on
Sep 2, 2008 11:47 PM EDT
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Not much good at the moment
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by kishi on
Sep 2, 2008 11:49 PM EDT
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I was at dinner
looked up at the TV and saw 2-0. Looked up a little bit later, and it was 4-0. Then I looked up and saw 6-0.
What's for dinner, mum? Heinz Baked Beans.
by soco on
Sep 2, 2008 11:51 PM EDT
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Sigh
Have we ever won a game that Slaten or Rosales pitched in? Seriously. We may have, but I just don’t remember any. I guess somebody has to do mop up when Cy Opposing Pitcher practically no hits us.
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Sep 2, 2008 11:52 PM EDT
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Yikes
I just went to look, and Slaten hasn’t pitched in a game we’ve won since June 12th. That’s depressing.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
by kishi on
Sep 2, 2008 11:56 PM EDT
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Rosales
has had some good outings…. and I remember him winning at least one game, I think….
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by DbacksSkins on
Sep 2, 2008 11:57 PM EDT
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I have hazy memories
of Slaten being pretty good early in the season. Rosales too.
"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson
by Scrbl on
Sep 2, 2008 11:57 PM EDT
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I can only imagine a game that both of them would pitch in that was a blow out one way or the other.
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Sep 2, 2008 11:59 PM EDT
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Solid lead off 2 bagger for Miggy the other way!
by foulpole on
Sep 3, 2008 12:01 AM EDT
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Solid single for CY!
Two on, nobody out!
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Sep 3, 2008 12:04 AM EDT
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Our towering team sage
makes another out
by Diamondhacks on
Sep 3, 2008 12:08 AM EDT
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And nothing
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by kishi on
Sep 3, 2008 12:09 AM EDT
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Well, at least we are making it interesting.
by foulpole on
Sep 3, 2008 12:09 AM EDT
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We are trying to make it interesting
We are bordering on scoring, which, to me, isn’t very interesting until we actually score….
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Sep 3, 2008 12:10 AM EDT
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I might be able to work up
a modest simulation of interest for a run or two, but going to bed early sounds like more fun.
"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson
by Scrbl on
Sep 3, 2008 12:12 AM EDT
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Baseball is a game of failure. As soon as you understand that you may enjoy the game more.
by foulpole on
Sep 3, 2008 12:17 AM EDT
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…. I don’t enjoy watching the struggles of stranding runners in scoring position yet again, no…. should I?
Nevermind, I don’t want to know.
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Sep 3, 2008 12:18 AM EDT
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And that's
how you suck all the air out of a room Nice work, D-Backs.
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by Scrbl on
Sep 3, 2008 12:10 AM EDT
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sigh....
… I really don’t know what else to say any more…
I'll make it.
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Very disappointing
performance by the D-Backs. In a few years, when they’re mentoring young stars through A-ball or “starring” for the Royals and Pirates, these guys are gonna look back on this season with a lot of regret.
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by Scrbl on
Sep 3, 2008 12:13 AM EDT
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Harsh
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by kishi on
Sep 3, 2008 12:17 AM EDT
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I'm feeling very snarky tonight
Fear my peavishness!
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Sep 3, 2008 12:18 AM EDT
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But doesn't it seem
like we have a whole team (well, maybe half a team) or Travis Lees right now?
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by Scrbl on
Sep 3, 2008 12:20 AM EDT
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Yeah, really
I see a team full of guys doing what they do – several having career years. Eric Byrnes fell off a cliff, with the hammies, but who else on this team isnt pulling his weight or making a professional effort?
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Sep 3, 2008 12:19 AM EDT
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I see a team
that has had a few bright spots and a lot of wasted potential. Kudos to the small improvements. Demerits for the dismal batting with runners on base, record-breaking error totals, painful clutch pitching, zombie-like effort in important games down the stretch.
On the whole, it’s a team that builds up hopes and then squashes them back down with relentless efficiency.
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Sep 3, 2008 12:25 AM EDT
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I dont see
alot of wasted potential. Every team has some, but alot? Sorry. Thery’re just not a very good team. They werent last year and they’re not now. That’s on the front office, imo, not the players or Bob Melvin.
Again, who’s putting out the “zombie like” effort here? Conor Jackson? Career year. Drew? Career year. Reynolds? Career year. Snyder? Career year. Upton? Career year. Chris Young has been a disappointment, but his OPS+ sits exactly at 89, like last year. Brandon Webb? Haren? Johnson? Doug Davis? The preseasn consensus around here was that Brandon Lyon was a 4.00 ERA pitcher. Most of the other subpar efforts can be attributed to injury, I think, or are fairly inconsequental bench players.
Record breaking errors? If you mean fielding errors, they’re around 4th worst, but they’ve also got several guys playing out of position – and Reynolds has been a defensive liability since high school. Everybody knew this. Is that the players or coaches fault? If you mean mental errors, again, I dont see it. Not relative to other teams.
On the whole, it’s a team that builds up hopes…
Big April, ok. But you dont think that’s their default ability level, do you? Maybe they were better prepared than everyone else coming out of spring training? The other thing that I think contributes to this is the front office’s constant selling creates impatient, coddled fans and sets unrealistic expectations for the players. I mean, here we are in September, up two games, and intelligent fans like you are wistfully talking about regret?
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Sep 3, 2008 12:57 AM EDT
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Conor Jackson? Career year. Drew? Career year. Reynolds? Career year. Snyder? Career year. Upton? Career year.
Seeing as how these players have been in the majors for, respectively, parts of 4, 3, 2, 5, and 2 seasons, and are ages 26, 25, 25, 27, and 21, this is kind of an asinine argument to be making….
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Sep 3, 2008 1:29 AM EDT
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I wouldnt get hung up
on the term ‘career year’. The point is all these individuals are progressing and playing as well as – indeed better in many cases – than they have in previous years. If you want to attribute it to natural chronological progression and not BoMel’s tutelage, fine. That wasnt really my point. I just think it’s hard to reconcile those independent improvements, across virtually your entire starting lineup, with the idea the “team” is guilty of “zombie-like effort”.
Is somebody’s head not in the game? Not competing? Physically out of shape? Any more than our rivals? Did last year’s squad of scrappers magically morph into a complacent crew? They didnt look complacent in Monday’s come from behind win. Sometimes you just get beat by better teams. And sometimes you get beat by lesser teams, no matter how hard you try. That’s baseball. What this year’s team is missing, more than anything else, is last year’s shockingly fortuitous luck.
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Sep 3, 2008 1:55 AM EDT
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If you're going to argue
with hyperbole on one side, you’re going to have to expect the same thing from us. I appreciate that things may not actually be shambling around the field moaning “braaaaiiiiinsss!” but this is a team that doesn’t seem to have much heart. We’re watching the second of two exceptionally ugly home stands in the midst of a pennant “race” and the players don’t look like they can manage the effort or attention to win (or even make a good showing) in most of the game.
And thank you for the pat on the head and the “you win some, you lose some” explanation of baseball. I’m sure most of us had forgotten that and are better off for your patient instruction. But stubborn, bitter creature that I am, I’ll go ahead and keep celebrating our victories and lamenting our losses, especially when the losses are as ugly as last nights.
"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson
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Sep 3, 2008 11:03 AM EDT
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Heh....
anyone who attacks ’Hacks so vehemently must be new here. ;-)
You should have seen him LAST year.
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Sep 3, 2008 12:02 PM EDT
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Guilty
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by Scrbl on
Sep 3, 2008 12:28 PM EDT
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and I feel like an idiot for being sucked in so completely.
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Nothing personal intended
but your implication that I’m robbing people of an opportunity to get emotionally involved with the team is a bit over the top. You’re the one sullying this team’s character. I just think most of this talk about “heart” and “zombie like effort” is misplaced, that’s all. I understand it’s a very popular sentiment; hell, I wrote scathing diatribes about Bob Melvin’s ennui for years before I realized it’s mostly nonsense :- )
I dont want to put words in your mouth, but you seem to be promoting an idea – that the team is “trying” when they win and not trying enough when they lose – that is suspiciously deterministic – and suggests the team should win a great deal more than they do for but a lack of “effort”.
And the reason I’m calling bullshit, is because you’ve demonstrated an ability to think and say intelligent things, and I thought it might be worth it.
Sorry if you consider that a pat on the head – but it’s true.
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Sep 3, 2008 5:11 PM EDT
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Sorry Hacks
You suckered me into a pointless argument once, bu tit’s not something I enjoy. You’ll have to find your entertainment elsewhere.
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Sep 4, 2008 12:59 AM EDT
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Is it possible that many people put way to much value on MLEs, the hype machine and minor league success??
They expect that to transfer to MLB???
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Sep 3, 2008 12:35 AM EDT
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What else are they supposed to base their projections off of other than minor league success?
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by kishi on
Sep 3, 2008 12:36 AM EDT
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Whitesell (sp?) BMOC in the minors. Welcome the The Show rook.
LMAO!
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Sep 3, 2008 12:45 AM EDT
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Was that an answer?
It really didn’t seem to be.
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Sep 3, 2008 12:47 AM EDT
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He was
like this last night, too.
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Sep 3, 2008 12:40 AM EDT
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8-2
Just a half dozen more innings like this, and we’ll be all tied up!
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Sep 3, 2008 12:25 AM EDT
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Nice shot through the box for Reynolds!!!
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Sep 3, 2008 12:27 AM EDT
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Adam Dunn rules.
So does Mark.
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Miggy needs to learn how to lean into pitches. That’s two HBPs he could have had tonight.
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CY has no clue what to do with pitches on the outer third.
:-(
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1-2-3 Inning for Rauch
That, at least, is a bonus.
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Now
if only we could get him to do that when we’re not already down by 6 runs….
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That's what he is supposed to do
A bonus would be if he did that when we had a lead.
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Sep 3, 2008 12:42 AM EDT
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I think
Jon Rauch getting a 1-2-3 inning made Gameday’s head explode….
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Kee-RASH!!!
Not my favorite game of the year.
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Sep 3, 2008 12:46 AM EDT
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Um....
I know he went 0-4, but why the heck would you pinch hit for Drew??
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I came to work today
and found a pile of the latest Terry Brooks’ book, with a note, “please return, books are misprinted.” Apparently page 285 was missing half of the page, mid-sentence.
So I process the return, go through the whole motions and then my boss comes out and says, “we got an email from the publisher.” They said that a character was blown up mid-page, hence why there was an abrupt end there, before the story continued on the next page.
Of course, the end of the email was the best part:
"It seemed like a good idea at the time…
What's for dinner, mum? Heinz Baked Beans.
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Sep 3, 2008 1:02 AM EDT
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Hmmm.
Remarkable. And brilliant….
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Sep 3, 2008 1:20 AM EDT
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One of my professors today
after collecting the assignment from the weekend….
“How many of you noticed the major change in the directions?”
(3 people raised their hands-me and the other two in my group)
“Ok. You three, I’ll take your papers, the rest of you? Read the prompt again, and turn in your papers on Thursday.”
I wonder how long it’ll take the rest of the class to realize that in the middle of the writing prompt, it said “Turn in a page, blank, save for your heading.”
Awesome.
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Um....
that can’t be the paper that you were lamenting procrastinating over, can it?
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Sep 3, 2008 1:32 AM EDT
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Nope.
Different class. I would have been lamenting this one if I hadn’t read all of the directions.
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Sep 3, 2008 1:34 AM EDT
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But.
I did get the other one done…like 30 minutes before class.
I suck at this whole not-procrastinating thing.
Although, I did all of my homework that’s due on Thursday tonight. So I feel a bit better. :-)
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Sep 3, 2008 1:38 AM EDT
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30 minutes before class?
Welcome to college.
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Absolutely
You know it’s early in the semester since it was a whole 30 minutes.
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