Gameday Thread, #145: 9/10 vs. Giants
by Jim McLennan on Sep 10, 2008 2:31 PM EDT
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So, we sat up to one a.m., waiting for the world to end, gurgling down a great cosmic vortex, in what can only be a metaphor for the Diamondbacks' season. Yet even that simple pleasure eluded us. Damn Large Hadron Colliders. Last night, it looked like we had a chance to get back within 1/2 game of the Dodgers, with us leading and Los Angeles losing in the second halves of thei respective games. But the implosion of first Peña and then Rauch, couple with the Dodgers' comeback, reversed the polarity, crossed the streams and reduced our playoff chances to 18.3%. And I suspect I'm not the only person who feels that figure is over-optimistic.
Rauch's comment after the game was forthright, yet plaintive. "I don't want to talk about it. If you think I'm going sit here and talk about how (expletive) up I've been pitching, how I keep making mistakes left and right and it keeps putting this team farther and farther out of playoff contention... I really just don't know what to do right now." It's not his fault Melvin keeps using him in high-leverage situations, but really, putting someone with an ERA of 9.72 over the past three weeks, into the ninth inning of a tied-game? Rauch has now an 0-5 record in his past 10.1 innings. Well done! You must get up very early...
But I can't quite bring myself to give up on the season yet. Dan Haren starts today in a game that is, basically, a must-win. I'll close with Chris Snyder's rallying call:
We've just got to get back to scratching and clawing to get back in it. It's not over. The season is not over. There's still plenty of baseball left to be played. We've got to keep reinforcing that. We're not giving in, we've just got to keep battling. Something big will happen. Something will get going and the energy, the morale, everything will pick up in this clubhouse and that's when we'll take off.
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I'm calling upon the Strategic Optimism Reserve
We can do this. We can hit off a lousy pitcher, we can get good Haren back on the mound, and we can overcome our problems on defense. Today’s a game we must win, and it’s a game we can win. Positive thoughts, people.
(Man, I hope we can get good Haren back on the mound. Especially with that long contract, I don’t want Haren to become an albatross.)
"Besides, you two shouldn't fight! You're best friends, I would imagine. You can't let a bunch of talking dogs in space helmets ruin that."
The lineup
- S. Drew ss .281
- C. Young cf .246
- A. Dunn rf .240
- C. Jackson lf .294
- C. Tracy 1b .269
- M. Reynolds 3b .242
- C. Snyder c .247
- A. Ojeda 2b .245
- D. Haren p .203
Hey! Everyone’s batting .200 or better, including the pitcher! No Eckstein, but I am not sure that Young in the #2 spot is an improvement.
Meanwhille
Sabathia’s unbeaten record is in jeopardy, as he is 3-1 down to the Reds, in the middle of the sixth.
SB for Chris Young
Got lucky there, Molina’s throw was high.
"Besides, you two shouldn't fight! You're best friends, I would imagine. You can't let a bunch of talking dogs in space helmets ruin that."
Sidenotes:
I love the games where the stands are empty enough that you can hear the vendors in the stand.
Also, now that I’ve seen those Fruitista ads, I sort of expect to hear BoMel talking about them every time they show him standing at the dugout railing.
"Besides, you two shouldn't fight! You're best friends, I would imagine. You can't let a bunch of talking dogs in space helmets ruin that."
CoJack walks
Beep
"Besides, you two shouldn't fight! You're best friends, I would imagine. You can't let a bunch of talking dogs in space helmets ruin that."
And a walk for Jackson
Hennessey appears to have been partaking of his namesake before the game. Maybe we can take advantage…
Not this time, apparently.
"Besides, you two shouldn't fight! You're best friends, I would imagine. You can't let a bunch of talking dogs in space helmets ruin that."
I really want to believe in Snyder
I love the guy’s attitude of course, and really expect nothing less. Wish I could share it.
CommentBot hates Randy Winn
"Besides, you two shouldn't fight! You're best friends, I would imagine. You can't let a bunch of talking dogs in space helmets ruin that."
Bad throw, Mark
Next time, just hold on to it.
"Besides, you two shouldn't fight! You're best friends, I would imagine. You can't let a bunch of talking dogs in space helmets ruin that."
Most errors by a third-baseman
In the entire majors since Aramis Ramirez had 33 for the 2003 Cubs. and Pirates.
by Jim McLennan on Sep 10, 2008 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice throw by Conor
Winn doesn’t even try to score on the fly-out.
"Besides, you two shouldn't fight! You're best friends, I would imagine. You can't let a bunch of talking dogs in space helmets ruin that."
Nice pitch by Haren
Molina pops out to Drew, two outs.
"Besides, you two shouldn't fight! You're best friends, I would imagine. You can't let a bunch of talking dogs in space helmets ruin that."
Walk
Bases loaded against Haren.
He didn’t seem happy with himself on that throw.
"Besides, you two shouldn't fight! You're best friends, I would imagine. You can't let a bunch of talking dogs in space helmets ruin that."
Whew
Full count, and Haren gets the K. Fairly stressful for one inning.
"Besides, you two shouldn't fight! You're best friends, I would imagine. You can't let a bunch of talking dogs in space helmets ruin that."
There is a peanut guy in SF
Who drives me crazy every single time they play. I have to put it on mute. Seriously, ever thirty seconds I just want to chuck my remote at my tv.
What a crazy random happenstance!
1-2-3
All three fly out to the outfield.
Come on, Haren, let’s see a quick inning from you, too.
"Besides, you two shouldn't fight! You're best friends, I would imagine. You can't let a bunch of talking dogs in space helmets ruin that."
Nice play by Drew
Took a good throw to get the out at first!
"Besides, you two shouldn't fight! You're best friends, I would imagine. You can't let a bunch of talking dogs in space helmets ruin that."
Remember that is what we were saying last night.
Just a little wet. Still good.
What a crazy random happenstance!
Runners at the corners, two outs
Haren started off the inning well, at least.
"Besides, you two shouldn't fight! You're best friends, I would imagine. You can't let a bunch of talking dogs in space helmets ruin that."
And no runs scored
Two innings, twice the Giants have stranded runners on third. I don’t mind the not scoring, but I get nervous at the “letting runners reach third” thing.
"Besides, you two shouldn't fight! You're best friends, I would imagine. You can't let a bunch of talking dogs in space helmets ruin that."
Okay, I'm off
Get us some runs while I’m gone, okay?
"Besides, you two shouldn't fight! You're best friends, I would imagine. You can't let a bunch of talking dogs in space helmets ruin that."
DFA
kishi
are you suggesting coconuts migrate?
by utahdbacksfan on Sep 10, 2008 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed!
And you could see he had a little smile. Way to be Drew. :)
(As long as he doesn’t grow a hideous caterpillar on his lip.)
What a crazy random happenstance!
And then...
He blots his copybook with an error to leadoff the inning. That just sums up the whole team’s performance this entire year: one second you want to kiss them, the next you want to kill them…
by Jim McLennan on Sep 10, 2008 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions
What?
Care to explain for those of us not watching?
by Jim McLennan on Sep 10, 2008 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions
To me it looked like the ball
Bounced off the pitchers foot… I didn’t really get it. But I thought it was out and yet it bounced through the feet of the second and third :)
What a crazy random happenstance!
Okay, Here I am, having escaped Hurricane Ike. What’s the update?
It's like living with a six-year old.
Seven left on base
By the Giants in the first three innings. Haren barely surviving.
Drew’s homer = our only meaningful offense.
by Jim McLennan on Sep 10, 2008 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
But at least we are ahead.
It's like living with a six-year old.
by 4 Corners Fan on Sep 10, 2008 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
76 pitches through 3 for Haren
Barely surviving is right. I have never seen so many pitches fouled off.
Finally an error by someone else
Reynolds reaches on an error by Ochoa at SS and advanced on Snyder’s bunt.
[Bangs head]
Yes, make the guy with the .975 OPS over the past 28 days put down a bunt…
by Jim McLennan on Sep 10, 2008 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions
And...
Reynolds is stranded. Brilliant!
by Jim McLennan on Sep 10, 2008 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions
And a guy
who came in with a 2008 ERA of 12.46…..
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
14 errors on the season
At this rate, he’ll have more than any other shortstop since the bad old days of Tony Womack [20 errors in 2002 and 22 in 2001]
by Jim McLennan on Sep 10, 2008 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions
How do they look today? Any enthusiasm? Or the same lackluster performance?
It's like living with a six-year old.
Can't tell from here
Going by the hits = errors in the box-score, not good…
by Jim McLennan on Sep 10, 2008 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Though thankfully
Reynolds just made it 4-3 in favor of hits…
by Jim McLennan on Sep 10, 2008 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Ok I'm in here, bear with me while I get acclimated.
I’m having issues with the 3d viewer, but I’ll work it out.
3D Viewer?
Must have missed that one. Watch out for that spear!
by Jim McLennan on Sep 10, 2008 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Welcome!!
It's like living with a six-year old.
by 4 Corners Fan on Sep 10, 2008 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Whatever it is they're passing around
with themselves and the starters, we should really get rid of it.
Oh...
That 3D viewer. If you want something simpler, try here:
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/scoreboard
And click on GameChannel below the game in question.
by Jim McLennan on Sep 10, 2008 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Hmmm...
We can accelerate the pitchers one way, and the hitters the other. When they collide, maybe they’ll eject one super-player…
by Jim McLennan on Sep 10, 2008 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Isn't that
what Micah Owings was supposed to be?
by emilylovesthedbacks on Sep 10, 2008 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Another two left on base by San Francisco
I think that’s now 11 million in this game.
by Jim McLennan on Sep 10, 2008 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions
The amount of "movement" the pitcher applies to the pitch.
A faster, straighter pitch like a fastball will have a higher PFX value than a slower, breaking ball like a curveball, which will have a higher BRK value.
by Jim McLennan on Sep 10, 2008 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions
You can use them
Along with the velocity, yo work out what kind of pitch was thrown: fastball, curveball, slider, change-up.
by Jim McLennan on Sep 10, 2008 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Cruz
Putting out the fires… Bo Mel finally figures out how to use his bullpen
by singaporedbacksfan on Sep 10, 2008 6:05 PM EDT reply actions
I was gonna say...
are you sure you want Phil as mrsazreous?
:-P
by emilylovesthedbacks on Sep 10, 2008 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions
It'd be a tumultuous romance, I'm sure
But the course of true love never did run smooth, etc.
"Besides, you two shouldn't fight! You're best friends, I would imagine. You can't let a bunch of talking dogs in space helmets ruin that."
Jigga-WHAT??
This is very disturbing….
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
by DbacksSkins on Sep 11, 2008 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Besides,
you’re waaaay too tall for me.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
by DbacksSkins on Sep 11, 2008 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Plus,
I was almost mrmrssoco, so that should count for something?
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
by DbacksSkins on Sep 11, 2008 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't even know anymore.
The reference seemed strange at the time.
Still, I think you’re on to something here. mrmrssoco looks good, but we’ll have to find some other things to add to it. drmrmrssocojr, maybe.
And we’ve got Mr. 4CornersFan.
It's like living with a six-year old.
by 4 Corners Fan on Sep 10, 2008 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions
If the Large Hadron Collider had gone off
You could just have pulled the Vizio over your head and ridden it out…
by Jim McLennan on Sep 10, 2008 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions
You tell me that now!
Instead I just sat and watched my computer screen in mute horror. ;)
What a crazy random happenstance!
19 men left on base so far
11 for the Giants, eight for us.
by Jim McLennan on Sep 10, 2008 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I stand corrected
Kinda. More of a 1-1-23 inning…
by Jim McLennan on Sep 10, 2008 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Might as well make it an 0-6 road trip
If we are going to fail, we might as well fail on a colossal level.
Frightening thought.
A win by the Giants would bring them within six games of us.
Or, alternatively, us within six games of fourth.
I'm going to the games here Fri. and Sat.
I can’t even imagine the reception they will get when they are introduced before the game. Shudder.
This team is depressing
I shouldn’t have bothered with the Strategic Optimism Reserve.
"Besides, you two shouldn't fight! You're best friends, I would imagine. You can't let a bunch of talking dogs in space helmets ruin that."
Geez.
This is Lyon’s 10th appearance since Aug. 1.
I know save situations have been few and far between and Lyon’s been spotty in that span, but still. Yikes.
On the bright side
At least he hasn’t blown any saves in that time.
"Besides, you two shouldn't fight! You're best friends, I would imagine. You can't let a bunch of talking dogs in space helmets ruin that."
Only because
He was bailed out by Pena on August 19.
by Jim McLennan on Sep 10, 2008 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe bright side was the wrong term
The faintly dim side?
"Besides, you two shouldn't fight! You're best friends, I would imagine. You can't let a bunch of talking dogs in space helmets ruin that."
Leadoff walk for Snyder
Romero in to pinch run.
Let’s get him in to score! That way our bullpen can blow the game in the bottom of the ninth!
"Besides, you two shouldn't fight! You're best friends, I would imagine. You can't let a bunch of talking dogs in space helmets ruin that."
And particularly pointless
Given the walk to Clark.
by Jim McLennan on Sep 10, 2008 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions
And a walk to Tony Clark
And Salazar in to pinch run for him…
"Besides, you two shouldn't fight! You're best friends, I would imagine. You can't let a bunch of talking dogs in space helmets ruin that."
Drew pops out
Down to our last out.
"Besides, you two shouldn't fight! You're best friends, I would imagine. You can't let a bunch of talking dogs in space helmets ruin that."
CY triple!
3-2 lead!
"Besides, you two shouldn't fight! You're best friends, I would imagine. You can't let a bunch of talking dogs in space helmets ruin that."
WTF!!??
ANOTHER 9th inning comeback?? PLEASE don’t blow this…. ::fully expecting BoMel to bring in Jon Rauch::
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Pena is warming up in the pen right now
"Besides, you two shouldn't fight! You're best friends, I would imagine. You can't let a bunch of talking dogs in space helmets ruin that."
I turned on MLB TV
And saw the ball leave CY’s bat.
If we win this, could someone call me next time we need a couple of runs?
But who'll pitch the ninth?
Lyon for two innings? Rauch?
Dammit, isn’t it Scherzer’s day to pitch on the side?
Lyon going out for the bottom of the ninth
"Besides, you two shouldn't fight! You're best friends, I would imagine. You can't let a bunch of talking dogs in space helmets ruin that."
First out
Molina at bat now. I kind of hate Molina.
"Besides, you two shouldn't fight! You're best friends, I would imagine. You can't let a bunch of talking dogs in space helmets ruin that."
He was
temporarily possessed by the ghost of Randy Winn.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Lyon
is NOT good when pitching multiple innings — although he IS well-rested.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
14 pitches in the eighth.
Not that many, but more than I’d like.
by Jim McLennan on Sep 10, 2008 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Molina singles.
Why does this NOT surprise me??
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Ground ball to Reynolds
Gets the out at first, runner advances to second.
Just one out to go…
"Besides, you two shouldn't fight! You're best friends, I would imagine. You can't let a bunch of talking dogs in space helmets ruin that."
In view of your previous comment
I’m impressed by your touch-typing mad skillz… :-)
by Jim McLennan on Sep 10, 2008 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Pitch-around?
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Makes sense
Rowand = 13 HR, Velez = 1 HR this season…
by Jim McLennan on Sep 10, 2008 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I hate Brandon Lyon
"Besides, you two shouldn't fight! You're best friends, I would imagine. You can't let a bunch of talking dogs in space helmets ruin that."
F-bombs ahead
YOU HAVE GOT TO BE F*%&ING KIDDING ME.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
ANOTHER walkoff hit
with two strikes by light-hitting Eugenio Velez. (.232 BA)
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
That walk
Really backfired. As did leaving Lyon in. Who didn’t see that coming?
"Besides, you two shouldn't fight! You're best friends, I would imagine. You can't let a bunch of talking dogs in space helmets ruin that."
Pz out,
mrs s.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Hi, Chris!!!
I just got home and I see you joined! Hooray! More and more couples on this board hmmmmm….
by snakecharmer on Sep 10, 2008 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow, what an ending
I was watching on my phone and saw Lyon out there for a second inning… but, really, who couldn’t see that one. WALKING the WINNING RUN…. dumb. So, so dumb. Wow. What a mess this team is now…
We walked in ANOTHER run?
Wow. Wow. Wowee wow wow!
"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson
The BoMel tolls for Thee
Folks,
I just posted some rhetoric on Azcentral.com. I thought I would cut and paste it, like the Dbacks have been performing all year long, so that I can feel some cathartic sense to this irretrievable and futile pile of fecal matter.
I give you the following:
KaJones Sep-10 @ 4:45 PM Delete00 Lyons or Rauch, both are interchangeable and are puckering sphincters.
The whole Dbacks team are all quivering brown ringed puckering sphincters.
Adam Done Dunn for Micah Owings was a great move. Done Dunn is as valuable as a wet sack of hammers. Let’s sign him and then trade him for a sad sack of batting practice balls. Isn’t that what we got from the Palhos of the Chicago South-side Sox when they received Carlos Quentin?
Somebody with a pulse in the front office sign D. Eckstein for next season after we let O Dawg Hudson gallop off into free agency?
Retire Tony Clark and make him a coach. Bring back Gonzo as a coach. Make Mark Grace a hitting coach since he is so well liked by the viewing fandom. BoMel is through along with that ghost of a hitting coach Gene Schu. Where is Al Pedrique hiding these days? How about Wally Backman?
Kirk Gibson has got to be coming unglued with the poor and maddening performances from this professional clown group of ball players.
Hand me the chain saw so I can go into the dugout and really go to work on the non-existent bats. Then there really will be an excuse for not generating any OFFENSE.
As always Jimmy, thanks for the vine!
Cold Beer, Peanuts!!!!!!
LiveStrong - wear yellow; the truth is out there (X-Files); "Go with throttle up!" (Challenger Space Heroes); "bababooey to you all!" Howard (Sirius) fan.
Gene Schu?
Rick Schu?
Josh Byrnes: PLEEEEEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE RE-SIGN ADAM DUNN!!
by DbacksSkins on Sep 11, 2008 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions
You're not out of it yet.
Come to think of it – neither are we!
"Ain't got a hope in Hell - that's my belief." - Bon Scott
by victor frankenstein on Sep 11, 2008 2:16 PM EDT reply actions
Mathematically, anyway.
In theory, real life and theory are the same. In real life, they are not.
Josh Byrnes: PLEEEEEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE RE-SIGN ADAM DUNN!!
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