Gameday Thread, #137: 9/1 vs. Cardinals
by kishi on Sep 1, 2008 3:28 PM EDT
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PrintSt. Louis Cardinals at Arizona Diamondbacks, Sep 1, 2008 4:10 PM EDT
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Seems kind of odd to have an afternoon game on a Monday, but it also seems odd that this is the first time we've seen the Cardinals all season, so maybe that averages out.
For the Diamondbacks, Randy Johnson is set to take the mound and work on continuing his impressive post-All Star Break run- he's got a 1.82 ERA over 8 starts since then, and I think we all would like to see him carry that on. For the Cardinals, Joel Pineiro will take the mound. Pineiro hasn't actually started a game since August 16th, but he did have a decent month- four appearances in August gave him three Ws and a three inning save, though the save did come in an 18-3 demolishing of the Braves where he gave up 2 runs in the ninth inning.
A matter of some interest is the Diamondbacks debut of David Eckstein. Looks like he is playing second base today, as expected. A tad surprising, though, is his being placed second in the lineup, behind Stephen Drew, since Eckstein normally bats lead-off. Looks like Justin Upton is making his first start in right field since he's been back from the DL, with Adam Dunn taking position at first base.
The Cardinals are just barely on the edge of still being in contention for the Wild Card, and they didn't help their chances much by getting swept in Houston over the weekend, so they may have little to look forward to other than playing spoiler to someone else's playoff hopes. Meanwhile, the Diamondbacks should be well rested for this game- after all, they barely played the past two days, right?
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Hmm
I suspect this is going to be a quiet thread today. Well, I’ll get some lunch and be back to yammer on.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
And how!
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Except for the part about yammering on
I think I was right on with that prediction.
And I did have lunch. So only sort of wrong.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
Not only is it the first time
we’ve faced St Louis all year, it’s the first time we’ve played them since the implementation of SBN 2.0… I can’t find the St Louis logo!
Afternoon
Just came in, horribly panicked, having seen today’s start time in the paper… And find kishi has already saved me. Phew. :-) Thanks a bunch for that. I’ll get the St. Louis logo uploaded for tidiness!
Have no fears, citizen!
Full credit should go to my mom for reminding me it was a day game, otherwise I would have completely missed it. =)
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
today’s lineup:
S. Drew ss .282
D. Eckstein 2b .000
C. Jackson lf .295
A. Dunn 1b .238
M. Reynolds 3b .241
C. Young cf .245
M. Montero c .287
J. Upton rf .243
R. Johnson p .167
Eck gets his first start as a D-back and bats second, Dunn gets his first start in Sedona Red at 1b, Miggy is behind the plate and J-Up in RF. Only three LHBs against the righty.
The happy part
is that Chris Young is not batting near the front of the order. I can live with a little Eckstein/Drew confusion.
"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson
He's below
the Uecker line in August, so I can’t argue.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
And based on this Small sample, it looks like Tracy will be the odd man out for the last month.
I would be surprised if J-Up wasn’t the “odd man out” against RHPs.
Like today?
They’ve been pretty insistent on sticking with their “Upton will be an everyday player when he comes back” line. We’ll see, though.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
We faced the weakest RHP in 4 days. If you are going to give him a start against a RHP today is the day to do it and you can’t let anybody rot on the bench.
Guy is batting .234 against RHP, and .240 against LHP in his career. Does that really merit sitting him?
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
Guy is batting .234 against RHP, and .240 against LHP in his career. Does that really merit sitting him?
Does
that really merit
playing him?
I'll be around
every once in awhile, since I have a paper to write. So much for telling myself that things were going to change and I wasn’t going to be as much of a procrastinator this year.
Oh well.
Go Dbacks.
by emilylovesthedbacks on Sep 1, 2008 3:52 PM EDT reply actions
Those other guys:
C. Izturis ss .249
R. Ludwick rf .301
A. Pujols 1b .364
T. Glaus 3b .271
Y. Molina c .311
F. Lopez lf .249
J. Mather cf .237
J. Pineiro p .114
A. Miles 2b .319
Okay
Yeah, I’ll probably watch the next episode of the Eric Byrnes show.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
Well,
don’t jump up and down about it or anything….
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
I'm kinda glad my net's been down
the past few days.
Let’s hope it’s worth the 3 days scrambling round balconies.
We will meet in Red 3 at the hour of scampering.
Wait a second??!
I blame YOU!!
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
In the movie of the Diamondbacks 2008 season
David Eckstein is to be played by Kevin McKidd.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
Wow
Those faces are eerily similar, but McKidd’s a pretty big guy. I’m not sure he could pull off “scrappy”.
"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson
I have similar problems
Journeyman was pretty cool, I was disappointed that it was canceled, since it seemed like so many lousy shows got extensions last season.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
Reynolds seems to be having some real troubles fielding recently.
It's like living with a six-year old.
Unfortunatley
“Recently” has been longer than we would like.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
Ties the franchise record
For errors in a season at 3rd-base [Chad Tracy, twice, with 25]. One more and he’ll tie the all-time single-season record for Arizona…
Not a record one would want to have, sadly.
It's like living with a six-year old.
by 4 Corners Fan on Sep 1, 2008 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Who has
the all-time single season record?
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Oh, impressive.
Didn’t Mark have an E at first during that one game he played there?
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Something I just discovered...
at the grocery store. Gingerbread Pop Tarts. Yum.
It's like living with a six-year old.
Gingerbread?
I saw Cookie Dough flavor last time we went shopping, I was curious if they were any good.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
Warning
The filling has a consistency between paste and glue.
by Mr 4CornersFan on Sep 1, 2008 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s FROSTING!
It's like living with a six-year old.
by 4 Corners Fan on Sep 1, 2008 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah. And people who don’t like Pop Tarts, shouldn’t eat mine. I’m just saying.
It's like living with a six-year old.
by 4 Corners Fan on Sep 1, 2008 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Pretty harsh,
seeing as how it IS a pop tart…..
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Mmm, lunch
And I only sort of made the kitchen into a mess.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
Drooooooooooo!
Nice single over Glaus to lead off!
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
Noooooo
Eckstein stole my Craigy’s number???? Boooooo! The comparison was already inevitable, they’ve been compared to each other for years…but now he takes his number! MY number. Pbbbbt.
Eckstein is 5'7"?
He looks like it at the plate.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
Also, the "littlest ballplayer"
isn’t the littlest on our club any more! Augie’s 5’8", David’s 5’7".
Even smaller
At 5’6", according to Baseball-Reference.com. Might help shut Mark Grace up about us having the tallest team in the league, as if that is of any importance…
They were talking about it
That’s why they showed the graphics. :)
And yeah, that’s also what the Republic reported, but on the telecast they had other heights…hmmmm.
He's
my height? So you’re saying that I could be a scrappy white guy, too??
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Did you go with
“F*%& you, asshole.” ?
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Ah.
Unlike the Terminator, you have manners.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
I could say this is why
Eckstein needs to be ahead of Drew, but in his defense, Eckstein has only hit into seven all season.
Oh, bad luck!
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
2-0
Randy’s not looking his best this inning.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
Only to every other hitter
Home-run, strikeout, home-run, strikeout. Randy Johnson is a true three-outcomes pitcher. With not many of the third outcome…
Juan Cruz,
you’re on notice.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Make that 2-0
I suspect I will get caught up on other things today, since it doesn’t look like this game is going to provide any real distraction.
At work
I’m working today and have no way to follow the game. Doesn’t sound like the it is starting out to be worth much attention.
MLB Gameday works pretty well
mlb.com – click on the green little field icon on the game in the left panel. But honestly, the ’Pit is almost always faster. :)
Typical Randy outing
Four K’s through two inning. Unfortunately, the two hits against him so far have both left the park. The way our offense has been failing of late, I’m not confident it won’t be enough for the Cardinals.
That's a start.
Shame he didn’t get to come up in the first with a runner on base, but it’s nice to get one run back immediately.
Mark leads the NL in strikes AND in errors? Wow, so we could say his offense and defense are balanced.
It's like living with a six-year old.
He also leads
in being AWESOME
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CY puts down a beautiful bunt
Very nearly beats it out.
Actually might have, on the replay.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
Surprised players don't try that more often
If it works, you get a base hit. If you don’t, you get credited with a sacrifice and it doesn’t hurt your BA. :-)
Looks like Upton getting an unintentional intentional walk
Another RBI opportunity for Randy.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
One of
our hottest hitters on the team. (Randy)
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Okay, Randy
Get back to that first inning pitching.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
Argh....
screw this guy.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Way too long of an at-bat
And ends up giving up a double.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
Ryan Ludwick -- 12 pitch AB
and he didn’t even have the decency to K.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Doesn’t he realize that it would have been a solid at-bat if he did that?
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
If only
he would listen to foulpole.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Argh again.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
GameDay is confused.
Pujols: Check that guy for steroids!!
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
And Troy Glaus.
Check THAT guy for steroids too, just to be sure.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Should we toss Rick Ankiel in there, too?
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
Tony LaRussa, too.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Do they have a mascot?
Check him, too.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
Unfortunately
Who needs steroids when your hitters just need to face Arizona, and achieve exactly the same effect?
It worked
for Barry Bonds?
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Why do
our pitchers all suddenly suck balls??
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Not all of them
Let’s get Yusmiero “Wild Thing” Petit off the bench.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
True.
So, we decided to bench our one starter who’s kicking ass lately….
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Welcome back, Justing Upton
Nice hustle to get a foul ball there for the second out.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
Sorry I missed it....
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Down at the office?
No, it’s not.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
I had
last thursday off instead.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
And the way our offense has been "performing" lately,
there is NO WAY we get 5 more runs today.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
........
You have GOT to be freaking KIDDING me. That guy’s 3rd HR OF THE YEAR.
Like I said, why the hell do all our pitchers suddenly suck!??
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Deat Alltel
Shut up. Seriously, your ads are just annoying.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
IAWTC
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
That's it.
Cardinals, you’re ALL now on my hate list.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Hardback.
That way, I can charge more for it.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Drooooooooooooo!
Leadoff triple in the third.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
And,
Stephen Drew continues to be AWESOME.
It’s sure as hell not HIS fault that we suck.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
David Eckstein
to GIDP on a sharp line drive to 3B.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Well, it wouldn’t be a GIDP, would it?
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
I more meant
A sharp line drive would preclude him grounding into a double play.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
Yes, true
but if he lined the ball somewhere and the ball was dropped by said infielder, it could conceivably be called such.
He's
so scrappy!!
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Is it just me or
Does Milwaukee seem pretty whiny over this whole Sabathia no-hitter-or-not thing?
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
Yeah, pretty whiny
I saw the replay earlier today, and the Mets announcers were saying that an infield hit like that has always been called an infield hit.
From what I read
Sabathia didn’t think it was an error.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
Oh yeah, that's what I forgot to add
I think they were saying he owned up to it after the game, too…
I think
we should try to get that flyout by Adam Dunn changed to another home run.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Hmm
Can we get those home runs by the Cardinals changed to swinging strikes?
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
Excellent point!
Just because we want to give Randy a shutout. It’s good for baseball.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Webb's 20th win would be good for baseball, too
We should get that taken care of, too.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
Randy's 300th win would be AWESOME for baseball.
I think we should petition to get all his L’s this year changed to W’s.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Is it just me or
wouldn’t YOU be whiny if you had to live in Milwaukee?
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Really?
What makes you think I’m not whiny even without living in Milwaukee?
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
What makes you think
you wouldn’t be even worse?
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
I like the way
they are trying to make it seem like giving him a no-hitter would be Good for Baseball.
by Mr 4CornersFan on Sep 1, 2008 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Exactly
I figure, more likely, it’s part of their “Sabathia should win the Cy Young” campaign. The difference between a no-hitter and a one-hitter shouldn’t be that huge to them.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
That sounds
exactly right. That’s gotta be their motivation.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
So the fact that
Sabathia was 6-8 with a 3.83 ERA before being traded to Milwaukee shouldn’t enter into the matter?
Hey, Randy!
Try not to give up any home runs this inning!
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
Especially, like... two?
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Third time in Randy's career
He has given up four homers in a game. Last time was August 21, 2005 for the Yankees.
What's with Pineiro?
Everytime a pitch comes in high, he flinches. Did Randy threaten him in the pre-game or something?
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
He's just
a wimp, I guess. Scared of a 45 year old man.
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Oh, man
Do I really have to hope for a good game from the evil Chris Young tonight?
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
Against who?
Dodgers?
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Yep
We have to root for the Padres tonight. I will then take a shower, and sob myself to sleep because I feel violated and unclean.
Well,
we don’t have to root for a good game from Chris White Young, though. We just have to root that Maddux is even worse. And the Padres win in extras. And then die and go to hell.
But not before beating the Dodgers.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
words fail me
well, they don’t but words allowed by Jim do.
We will meet in Red 3 at the hour of scampering.
Ryan Ludwick
is ugly and stupid looking….. on the inside AND the outside.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Someone should analyze
Intentional Bases on Balls, to see if the batter behind then hits better than usual, because he’s peeved at the IBB.
And Randy is out
Didn’t see who was coming in from the pen, though…
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
What?
Judging from the graphic on Gameday I would guess that Randy was trying to bean Baxter with his first pitch to Pujols.
I LOL'd too
because it looked like some of Webby’s pitches last night.
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Piggy comes in.
Oh, man! His MLB Gameday picture is HI-LARIOUS!!
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Peguero in to pitch
Just called up, now he’s brought in with the bases loaded.
No pressure, kid.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
What can ya say? The kid likes drama.
Hence, he’s slated to be our closer of the future….
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
And Glaus pops out in foul territory
Dunn looked to be going for it, but Eckstein came over at nearly a full sprint to grab it.
So, it could have been a lot worse.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
Glaus
Byrneses to end the inning.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Failing with RISP?
Glaus perfected that move as a D-back long before we got Byrnes.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
Are you saying he's not "clutch"?
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
The part about Byrnesing
was more about popping out than failing.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Nice homer
from anyone.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
CY!!
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Now
just a few more like that.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
And I'm back.
One page down.
Man I suck at this whole no-procrastination thing…even though it isn’t entirely my fault, since my mom called.
How’s the game?
by emilylovesthedbacks on Sep 1, 2008 5:37 PM EDT reply actions
Pretty lame.
The baseball gods hate us.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
I guess that’s what we get for using their names in vain.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
Science damn it.....
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Wait
It’s only 5-3? For some reason, I felt like we were down by 6 or so.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
Yeah.
Doesn’t really feel like a 2 run game, does it?
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
1-2-3 for Peguero
Now, offense? Try to get us back in this one?
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
That’s the first time I’ve seen the Fruitista Freeze ad.
Odd.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
There's
a few different ones
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Burke in to PH
Good call, wouldn’t want, say, Chad Tracy up there or something.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
Oh.....
so, we have Chad Tracy, Tony Clark, and Augie Ojeda on the bench against a RHP, so naturally Melvin goes with — Chris Burke.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Who then grounds out,
shocking Arizona fans everywhere.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Then again,
we wouldn’t want him to think the team had lost confidence in him, or anything.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Don't forget Chris Snyder, Jeff Salazar or Dan Haren
All of whom are hitting RHP better than Burke this season.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
True!
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Drooooooooooooo!
He’s just a double from the cycle!
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
DREW!!
WTF is going ON??!!
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1 run game!!
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
First hit as a Dback.
Sweet.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Eckstein with a hit
Finally. Didn’t want to have to DFA the guy.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
Speaking of DFA.....
you know, if he pinch hitter had actually been someone who can get on, the game would now be tied…..
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
*the
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Well, I was actually speaking
in reference to Burke, but that seems like an even BETTER idea!!
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Maybe both?
I figured Burke was the first choice, but it isn’t Burke’s fault that Melvin sucks at picking pinch hitters.
Plus, Burke doesn’t suck all the time.
by emilylovesthedbacks on Sep 1, 2008 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Plus, Burke doesn’t suck all the time.
Only when he’s playing baseball?
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Fair.
Except for when he hits two home runs.
On further inspection, though, that may have been a fluke.
by emilylovesthedbacks on Sep 1, 2008 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Ya think?
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Optimism.
You should look into it.
by emilylovesthedbacks on Sep 1, 2008 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Calling them "flukes"
isn’t optimism….
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
No
That’s a fluke.
Burke’s two home runs were massive amounts of luck.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
No, that's a flounder.
Get in the 21st century….
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No, I can't,
but this guy can:
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Haircut like that
And you think he’s been to the 21st century?
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
Camouflage....
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And CoJack hits into a double play
But within a run…
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
Awesome!
Now the loss is gonna hurt even more than a blowout woulda!!
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
After the last two games
I’ll just be glad if they’re close.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
The Rauchinator
comes on — to hopefully NOT give up 4 or 5 runs.
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There's
still time!
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Severn through the first five?
If we can keep up that pace, we’ll manage it.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
Oi, como vai? =p
Wikipedia is accurate. (citation needed)
by Muu on Sep 1, 2008 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Dear Jon Rauch
Weren’t you supposed to be good?
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
And how are Washington doing since they got rid of him?
About to win their seventh straight, last time I looked…
Granted,
3 of those were against the Dodgers….
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
That's more
a product of us sucking than anything else…. they lost 8 in a row.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Three against Washington
So, Washington suck because they beat LA, who suck because they lost to Washington.
I love circular logic. :-)
No.
LA just sucks, and Washington’s achievement isn’t quite as impressive as it might be, since they beat a team in the middle of a horrible losing streak.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Argh....
back to a 2 run game.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Back to paper writing.
Grr.
Let’s pull this one out, Dbacks? Please?
by emilylovesthedbacks on Sep 1, 2008 6:01 PM EDT reply actions
And Rauch walks Glaus to load the bases
Can we get Peguero back in there?
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
+About a Billion
I wish we could have this year’s starters, this year’s offense (I guess) and last year’s defense and bullpen.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
Unclear on the concept
Dear Jon Rauch. You intentionally walk a batter, because you think you can get the next guy out. Not so you can walk him as well.
Fundamentals, man, fundamentals
It's like living with a six-year old.
by 4 Corners Fan on Sep 1, 2008 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice defense by Drew there to end the inning
And Rauch just got tossed for yakking at the umpire as he walked off the field.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
WHY SO SERIOUS, JON??!
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
So I just got up from a very nice nap
not sure if I should go back and pull the covers over my head or not.
"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson
Beep
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
And now the Cardinals are bringing in a new pitcher
So they brought a guy in who threw four straight balls, and then got pulled? Okay.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
They almost missed that one
Coming back from the ad break just as he made contact, I think.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
UM???
Nice of them to come back from the ad in time to see the HR.
It's like living with a six-year old.
+100
It's like living with a six-year old.
by 4 Corners Fan on Sep 1, 2008 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I think
that was the color of our faces (from rage) after yesterday’s game.
It's like living with a six-year old.
by 4 Corners Fan on Sep 1, 2008 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions
No..... NO WAY..........
so, did you guys know that I love Mark Reynolds?
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So does Mark Grace
Or so I’m led to believe by his commentary.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
8 home runs in the game
Ties the Chase Field record.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
I hope you appreciate
Me going down to Chase Field, slipping on a Cardinals uniform, and taking on a relief role for St. Louis…
I was about to make some joke about it lol
Wikipedia is accurate. (citation needed)
by Muu on Sep 1, 2008 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions
You might actually
be an IMPROVEMENT with their struggles this season. And we think our bullpen sucks…
Granted,
we were “only” down 5-1, but ANY comeback win would be huge for this team right now.
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Uh oh.....
you said Wolf
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
That was
my first thought, too.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
It's probably okay
foulpole has made it clear he doesn’t read anything written by the majority of contributors to the site, so we’ll likely get away with it.
Only to foulpole.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Ask him?
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
If you live in an alternate universe
where you don’t watch Sound of Music or read Harry Potter or, you know, pretty much do anything social and ignore almost anything on this site…. then, yes.
To the rest of us? NO.
Like I said
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Don't encourage him, please?
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
It actually would kind of fit
Given how our frequent response to him is “Droooooooooooooooo!”
But it’s been emphatically shot down by most of the board.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
Somewhat glad
We didn’t get a seventh run to be honest, as that would have put Rauch in line for an entirely undeserved win.
The question is, will our bullpen now prove capable of getting their first victory since before the All-Star break? Or will it be their tenth defeat since July 10?
Or
will a meteor hit Chase Field, erasing this game from history?
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
And.....
Lopez, with his .249 BA, has his second hit……
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Wow
Drew’s got a temperature of 102?
And as I type that, he helps turn a nice double play.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
Maybe that goes to show everyone how much we really know about the health/availability of everyone one our roster on a day to day basis?
....wha??
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
I know!
foulpole read my post? I’m mystified.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
HAHA!!
Tolja. And you STILL haven’t been banned from GLB.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
I give up
I’m apparently just too awesome to ignore.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
By foulpole.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
But didn't
foulpole say we were boring?
Why the change of heart?
by emilylovesthedbacks on Sep 1, 2008 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions
No.
I distinctly remember “you guys”
eh. Whatever.
by emilylovesthedbacks on Sep 1, 2008 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Funny thing is,
I think it was just a slipup on his part.
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IF hit, GIDP, and K.
Not a bad inning for Qualls. Can we get HIM a W?
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
3.36 ERA?
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Unearned too, though.
Remember that he started the season out 0-2 but with an ERA of 0.00.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Yeah!
You suck, Jim!
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Jenny!
Your boy leads off with a single!
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Leadoff single for Salazar
Double for Drew would give him the cycle, and probably give us the lead.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
CYCLE!!
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STEPHEN FREAKING DREW!!
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Can we get him to pass along whatever he’s got to the rest of the team?
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
+101
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Eckstein up with runners at second and third, no outs!
Come on, D-backs!
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
Every 3 days, or so.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Lead!
7-6!
Runners at the corners, no outs!
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
Not only
did Drew hit for the cycle, the Diamondbacks just responded to a good play by one of their teammates. I am sooo glad to see that.
"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson
Hey....
maybe we shouldn’t DFA this new guy.
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First time a D-back has hit for the cycle in Phoenix.
Awesome.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
Nope
Delluci hit for the cycle on the road.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
Not as a Dback.
Only Gonzo, Drew, and Colbrunn have done it as a Dback
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Of course,
CoJack ran THROUGH the cycle this season…..
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Damn.
CoJack barely lines out.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Ha
That “Optimism” ad is pretty funny.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
C'mon, Donkey Kong!
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Donkey Kong?
I think I missed something.
by emilylovesthedbacks on Sep 1, 2008 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Adam Dunn
His nickname is, apparently, Donkey.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
Big Donkey
But I like Donkey Kong a lot better
"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson
Yeah.
My new nickname for him is Donkey Kong.
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I like "Home Run Dunn"
It's like living with a six-year old.
by 4 Corners Fan on Sep 1, 2008 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Bases loaded for Reynolds.
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That guy is so lazy
Always with the walking! Let’s see some hustle!
"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson
La Russa coming out again
Looks annoyed. And now they’re arguing with the umpires over something…
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
That's even a question?
Reynolds is too manly to be considered pretty.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
That it does
Poor kid does not look good out there.
Hey I aced a math test one time as I got the flu in 45 minutes… maybe it works good things on people!
I got a 5 on an AP test
after being up all night with the flu?
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
::High five::
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Jerry?
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Mark Ks.
Fancy that. C’mon, CY!
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
This ump
has a short temper, methinks.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
He's got an interesting way
of controlling the game.
"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson
Flores was complaining about the strike zone and got tossed, then I guess Villone came out to argue.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
Incidentally,
Mark now has 92 RBIs on the season.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Hmm
Those strikes on CY looked outside to me.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
IAWTC
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
8-6!!
PB!
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Whoa.....
ease up on the sweets. That’s at least your 2nd today.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
I’ll give him a pass for that double play and for Drew hitting for the cycle.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
Gotta balance that
against our usual offense. A game like this is cause for some excessive celebration.
"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson
Man
Chad had a terrible haircut as a child.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
Which one?
Oh…. nvm. The evil smug Chad.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
I thought he was talking
about Chad “Never Shave Your Head Again” Tracy
"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson
Adieu
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Drive safe
and try not to throw anything at the radio.
"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson
Alright,
we can only allow 1 more run, bullpen….. but I’d appreciate none.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
looks like Lyon still is going to get the nod in the ninth… c’mon fellas
"There are only two seasons: winter and baseball"
-- Bill Veeck
Uh oh.....
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Yeah, makes me a little nervous
Wouldn’t mind seeing the team add on another five or ten runs in the bottom of the eighth.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
Wouldn’t mind seeing the team add on another five or ten runs in the bottom of the eighth.
Something we could say every game.
"There are only two seasons: winter and baseball"
-- Bill Veeck
IAWTC
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Nice hustle by CoJack there to keep it at a single
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
HBP
No! Bad!! 2 on for Pujols.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Thanks, Mark
“Well, folks, you want drama, you got it!”
No! I wanted to win easily! Drama is not fun.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
Have folks chatted already about Sabathia’s near no hitter last night? What do people think? Hit or error?
"There are only two seasons: winter and baseball"
-- Bill Veeck
We touched on it briefly
Seemed like a hit to me. Seemed like a hit to Sabathia. Don’t know why it’s an issue.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
Hit.
That’s ALWAYS a hit when it’s knocked hard like that.
Plus, I hate the Brewers whining.
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If they changed it, it'd be
a no-hitter, with an assist from Bud Selig.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
There’s no way they change it after the fact.
"There are only two seasons: winter and baseball"
-- Bill Veeck
There is
The official scorer can change his score to an error.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
that’d drive me nuts if they change it because of the brewers’ whining.
"There are only two seasons: winter and baseball"
-- Bill Veeck
Absolutely
Especially since they’re complaining to the Commissioner’s Office, and the Commissioner isn’t the person who can change it.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
Selig
has always given special treatment to the Brewers, though. They knew EXACTLY where to go.
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If it changes
Every single person with half a brain knows it’s shenanigans and pretty much only because the Commissioner’s office leans on the scorer to change it.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
Dear God....
….I hope not.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
I hope not
but really. Would they do that because of some shit head whining?
Excuse me. Poop head.
by emilylovesthedbacks on Sep 1, 2008 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Seems kind of weird to me that the Brewers keep riding Sabathia so hard. 6 complete games since he’s come over. I mean, I love seeing a guy get out there and toe the rubber for 9 innings, but he showed last year that after throwing 240 innings he might not have much left for the playoffs. Seems kind of shortsighted to me.
"There are only two seasons: winter and baseball"
-- Bill Veeck
The Brewers
haven’t even GOTTEN to the postseason in like 10 years, and he is NOT coming back. They’re riding him out the rest of the season.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
But there have been several games he’s been out there with 5, 6, 7 run leads in the 9th. It’s just idiotic. I know they don’t need him for next season, but they definitely need him for the post season. Especially if the injury to Sheets today was serious… and most injuries to Sheets are exactly that.
"There are only two seasons: winter and baseball"
-- Bill Veeck
Remember
that the Brewers aren’t exactly reputed to be a “smart” organization…..
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GIDP!!!
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Mark keeps saying that 1-2 pitch to Pujols “just missed.” It looked way outside to me.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
Ball 1
was much closer than ball 2.
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Definitely
But Mark keeps acting like the only reason Pena didn’t get the call is because he threw it to Pujols.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
Mark can tend to zero in on something like that and not let it go… no matter what the replays show.
"There are only two seasons: winter and baseball"
-- Bill Veeck
I am
shocked, shocked, to find this out.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Yeah,
but Piggy isn’t usually part of our “A” Bullpen.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Jupton
legs out an infield single!
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Nice hustle by Upton
Looked like he accidentally made contact, but he tears down the line to beat the throw.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
Ow
And then Upton takes a pick-off throw to the head. Ow, crap, ow.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
Crap.
Thompson just hit Upton in the fact with a pickoff attempt.
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*face
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Lousy play by Pujols
Didn’t really seem like he was making much effort to get the ball.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
Upton wants to stay in
But they convince him to leave for a pinch runner.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
Phew
This thread is now past 500 comments, but for anyone experiencing any stickiness, I offer these words of advice:
Deal with it.
This thread is not going anywhere. :-) Now, if we can get any more runs, that would be nice, as I do not feel confident with Lyon coming in and a two-run lead, given his last save attempt, on August 19th, resulted in him having to be bailed out by Pena. At least we got past the heart of the Cards order: Pena deserves a save for this game, as much as whoever pitches the ninth.
Save?
Or a hold?
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For that double play?
He probably deserves a save. But he’ll have to take a hold.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
Jupton leaves the game.
Tony Clark to pinch run. (Snicker)
Why wouldn’t Augie PR?
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Ah,
positions.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
That's weird.
Sutton says they should have put Haren in the pinch-run.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
DREW!!!!
5-5 with a double!!
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
That was quite amusing
Would’ve been really, really sad if he was out. Thankfully, the Cards were confused too.
If that's Upton running, not TC,
Drew gets an RBI easily.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
If that’s Snyder running, Drew gets an RBI easy…
"There are only two seasons: winter and baseball"
-- Bill Veeck
If it's
anyone other than TC, I think Drew gets the RBI.
by emilylovesthedbacks on Sep 1, 2008 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Unfortunately
Hopefully, it doesn’t matter.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
That strike 2 to Eckstein
was WAAAY inside….
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No kidding
When players from BOTH sides get tossed for arguing balls and strikes, one feels there may be an issue.
It doesn't seem
to be favoring the pitchers OR hitters, though — just general terrible inconsistency.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
That is the worst kind
because you can adjust to favoritism of pitchers or hitters, but randomness is totally unpredictable.
Ugh.
Lyon gives up a leadoff hit.
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And
Molina, GIDP!!
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Double play for Lyon
One more out to go!
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
It WAS
before they upgraded SBN?
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Hmmm.....
is that a hit, or an error on Eckstein?
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
The Brewers
are furious about that.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
In a perfect world
E-3.
I’m still trying to figure out where this “Tony Clark – defensive replacement” thing got started among the DBacks’ coaching staff.
Were you not here earlier?
Upton hit, had to leave. Others were already used. Dunn—>RF, Clark—>PR/1B.
Because
Justin Upton got hit in the face?
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
I'm referring to in general.
Obviously, there were extenuating circumstances this time, but it’s still a common theme that’s played out regularly this year and last and for the life of me I can’t figure out why.
TC has the range of a traffic cone out there.
Should have been
An error on Clark if anyone. He let it roll right past him.
Memo to Clark. Eckstein has shorter legs than Hudson, and so is not as good at covering for you and your range, which is roughly equivalent to that of a sundial.
STRIKE 3!!
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Wow
that was unexpected.
"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson
Chad Qualls won,
no less.
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3rd?
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Perhaps Dunn and Eckstien are about to get into their stride.
We will meet in Red 3 at the hour of scampering.
I'd like everyone to
I mean, if we can finish the season the way we started the season, wouldn’t that be great?
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
Maybe
Eckstein is destined to earn ANOTHER WS MVP if we get hot the way the Cards did?
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
It felt a lot lower than that
But we remain undefeated when I start the GDT. Just saying.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
Consider yourself duly tasked
For however long you can keep the streak alive. I look forward to not having one to do this week.
Whatever it takes. Whatever it takes…
It's really, really nice
to play teams with crappy pitching.
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When they set up a site
Called Fire Jim McLennan, I might take note. You are confusing experience with knowledge. Morgan is a gasbag, a dinosaur who refuses to accept that baseball analysis has moved on since he was a player, thought that Billy Beane wrote Moneyball, and famously said, “Anytime you’re trying to make statistics tell you who’s gonna win the game, that’s a bunch of geeks trying to play video games.”
My question was
“So, you truly feel that you know more about baseball then Joe Morgan?”
Can you please answer that?
Neither you nor I have any idea
How much Joe Morgan “knows” about baseball, so it’s an idiotic question. He could certainly teach me a great deal about the history of the game, the great players of the past, and so on. However, I could certainly teach him a great deal about how statistics actually work and which ones have impact on the outcome of a game. As well as, of course, who wrote Moneyball.
However, the difference is, Morgan already thinks he knows it all, and has decided to reject any information and data that does not fit his pre-conceived notions. Sounds very familiar to some posters here, doesn’t it? No wonder you like him: perhaps you wear the same size blinkers. :-)
If you truly feel that if you feel that you can teach Joe Morgan anything about baseball, you are delusional.
LMAO!
;-)
Fortunately
Einstein had a better grasp of physics. If he’d been like Joe Morgan, the atom-bomb would have consisted of a bunch of firecrackers tied together, because that was how they did things in his day.
by Jim McLennan on Sep 1, 2008 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
+100,000
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That's true
I strongly doubt Joe Morgan would listen.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
Let’s take a poll.
Let’s take a poll.
Please let us know if anyone on this board truly believes that they know more about baseball then Joe Morgan..
I’ll go first
Not me.
I know more
about Yuma baseball then he does.
/smary answers
What's for dinner, mum? Heinz Baked Beans.
I know more
about Wii baseball than he does.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
Foulpole
this kind of behavior makes it very easy to dismiss you as a garden-variety troll. Sometimes you’ve shown real insight into baseball, but baiting other posters like this doesn’t help your credibility. What are you trying to gain here?
"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson
To be fair
many if not all engage in this type of post at one time or another.
Personally I’m wondering who can come up with the most creative answer.
What's for dinner, mum? Heinz Baked Beans.
Joe Morgan….one of if not the best all around players in the histoery of the game has no clue about baseball yet the bloggers on this site can teach him more than a thing or two???
What’s wrong with this picture.
Oh, and BTW…there is now way in hell that I’m going to teach Einstein anything about physics. :-)
He was an outstanding player
but he shows no interest in being an outstanding announcer. As I said below, he shows almost no interest in the game, its players or its current developments. It seems that he rarely prepares for his broadcasts and his comments have little to do with what is actually happening on the field. In contrast to career broadcasters, who put the same effort into their job that Morgan put into his time on the field, he comes off looking foolish. His haphazard approach does a disservice to himself, his booth-mates, the audience and his legacy as an excellent player.
"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson
The best?
Do you seriously believe Joe Morgan was a better ball player than Stan Musial or Babe Ruth or a number of other players? Morgan was good, yes, and a deserving Hall of Famer, but would you really rank him above Hank Aaron or Ty Cobb?
And, to use your analogy, I could teach Einstein a few things about physics. Why? Because he’s been dead for 50 years. The field has advanced. I could take Zombie!Einstein into a library today, pull out some books, give him a rough description of the Standard Model of particle physicsc and- bam!- I’d have taught Einstein something about physics he didn’t know before! Just like someone could give Joe Morgan an explanation of why there are better stats to rank players than win-loss records and batting average, because the field of statistics has advanced in the past few decades.
That’s like saying “I couldn’t teach Machiavelli anything about politics” when he probably could use a few pointers on the use of mass media.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
Crediting Joe Morgan
with the use of batting average is giving him WAAAY too much credit. He usually goes by runs scored or RBIs.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
See the quote from him below
“Wins and losses are how you measure pitchers.”
Since you apparently think Morgan is infallible, I presume that you agree with this ludicrous statement?
My question was
"So, you truly feel that you know more about baseball then Joe Morgan?"
Can you please answer that?
I already responded
Saying it was an idiotic question. Sorry you didn’t like the answer, or appreciate that baseball is a complex game, which possesses multiple facets – some of which, the all-knowing, all-seeing divine entity known as Joe Morgan might grasp with all the intellectual acumen of a bowl of petunias.
I don't think it's a question of knowing more about baseball
It’s a question of effective on-air analysis. Joe Morgan gives such an impression of disinterest in his current job that it’s difficult to respect him as an announcer. He’s poorly prepared, rarely interested in what’s happening on the field and dismissive of things he doesn’t understand. Add that to his poor public speaking skills, and it makes him a remarkably bad announcer.
The things that made Joe Morgan a great baseball player don’t automatically make him a good on-air personality. Broadcasting is a difficult, demanding job and there are people who have devoted their whole careers to it. They follow their sport avidly, research new trends, players and personality and they show a real passion in their performance.
Joe Morgan is not one of these people. In fact, he seems to hold that kind of dedication in contempt. When an announcer is as bad as Morgan, and shows no desire to improve, he’s a ripe target for every kind of mockery.
"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson
And when I read comments from him such as
“Run production is how you measure hitters. Wins and losses are how you measure pitchers,” as he wrote in the aptly-titled Baseball for Dummies, then it certainly makes me wonder…
I asked one question, Jim that you have yet to answer.
My question was
“So, you truly feel that you know more about baseball then Joe Morgan?”
Can you please answer that?
A real simple question for anyone on this board.
Do you feel that you know more about baseball then Joe Morgan.
Yes or no?
Don’t change the subject, just answer the question.
Really simple….yes or no.
Formal warning
If you persist in ignoring the legitimate and genuine answers people have already given, and continue to post the same question in multiple locations, such comments will be deleted and you are at risk of being banned for trolling.
You have been warned.
Dude
He already answered you much farther up the page.
What is the point of your harangue? What difference does it make whether anybody knows more about baseball than Joe Morgan? He was a great player , he’s a lousy announcer.
I think we’ve exhausted this topic.
It's like living with a six-year old.
by 4 Corners Fan on Sep 1, 2008 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Emphasis on
“forgotten”.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
And Joe Morgan has forgotten more about baseball than we’ll ever know.
Maybe you are unfamiliar with this American expression. It simply means that JM’s knowledge is head and shoulders above the others. It’s not a literal expression.
No,
it means he was very knowledgeable in his day. The game has changed since then, and Joe Morgan refuses to acknowledge that.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
And I trust there can be no whining
From Johnson about the team costing him wins, after they seriously bailed him out from a loss today.
Not that it might have been justified before, but they paid him back, bigtime, this afternoon!
has he been whining about that lately?
"There are only two seasons: winter and baseball"
-- Bill Veeck
Not so much "whining"
as grumbling and killing doves.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Randy
KILLED Greenpeace.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
That explains a lot
Like why they’re always hiding up in the Arctic.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
Getting eaten
by polar bears, etc.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Really
Which is less dangerous? Polar bears and the barren, frozen wasteland of the Arctic? Or Randy Johnson’s wrath?
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
Less dangerous?
I’d take the polar bears and Arctic over Randy Johnson.
by emilylovesthedbacks on Sep 1, 2008 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions
At least
polar bears are cute and fuzzy?
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
You cannot hide
from Mister Snappy
"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson
Wow
That’s possibly the first time I’ve seen Josh Byrnes in person. Don’t know what I expected, but that wasn’t it.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
Seriously??
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
In my defense
I spent many of those years in a state where I didn’t get to see the Diamondbacks broadcasts. =)
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
Give him a break
He was in Utah. Utah for heck’s sake!!
It's like living with a six-year old.
by 4 Corners Fan on Sep 1, 2008 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh --
yeah, good point. That would explain it, then.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
My baseball day isn't done yet.
I’m going to go see the Sidewinders’ last ever game in Tucson today after work. :-(
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
That's kind of sad
The end of minor league baseball in Arizona, at least for the foreseeable future.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
Oh, yeah, I guess that counts
I always forget about the fall league.
Have to try to see if I can catch a game or two this season.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
And....
not only has Tucson lost its AFL teams, but we’re probably losing ST, too. :-(
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
I was wondering about that
Mainly what the Diamondbacks are planning to do if everyone abandons Tucson.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
Josh Byrnes
said come to Phoenix. He didn’t sound very optimistic about Tucson having any sort of baseball in the near future when I asked during the Q&A.
What's for dinner, mum? Heinz Baked Beans.
On one hand, disappointing
I kind of liked the fact that they were making some effort to make the team more popular in the rest of the state. On the other hand, I’ll be glad that they’re playing their spring training games in town.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
There are still
some last minute deals that could go through and save some sort of pro ball in the area, but I guess we’ll have to all wait and see. Apparently the city has talked to a few teams interested in moving, and there is interest in a ballpark in Marana. Of course, these could all just be rumors.
What's for dinner, mum? Heinz Baked Beans.
There's an independent league team
in Yuma? And there’s some talk of moving the i-league team from Reno to Tucson.
It wouldn’t be at TEP, either. It’d be at Hi Corbett, probably.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Since when did Yuma count for anything?
Real cities in Arizona are off of I-10 or maybe I-40, if we’re feeling generous.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
You said
“minor league baseball in Arizona”. Didn’t say anything about cities.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Fair enough
I just forget Yuma is in Arizona.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
soco
has angrily tagged this comment.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Like he’s the scary one in the marriage.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
True
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
I was going to reply with "Hey"
But I think I take this as a compliment. So…“Hey! … Thanks?”
What a crazy random happenstance!
But I have BEEN to your town
So I can at least insult it intelligentally. ;)
What a crazy random happenstance!
Hmmm....
I predicted it by a little over a half an hour?
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Three military
complexes in the area, and significant farming industry ($900 million a year), and tourism ($450 million) all say otherwise, jerk.
What's for dinner, mum? Heinz Baked Beans.
"Tourism"? To Yuma??
Aren’t they mostly people stopping in on their way to and from Southern California?
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
To be fair,
they do have an In-n-Out.
Although, I don’t think that really counts as tourism.
by emilylovesthedbacks on Sep 2, 2008 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Winter vistors
double the population, and there’s nothing old people like doing more than spending money.
What's for dinner, mum? Heinz Baked Beans.
Ah.
Snowbirds count as tourists?
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
I suppose so
I guess it depends on how much of resident they become. The ones that own houses are probably not counted, though perhaps the boost to the various side bars of tourism is, such as the casinos, restaurants, and such. On the other hand, many live out of trailers and RV’s, so I guess that’s considered all tourism. Or perhaps Yuma wants to make itself look better and call them and all migrant workers “tourists.”
What's for dinner, mum? Heinz Baked Beans.
Before the game tonight,
Jay Zucker, the former owner of the ’Winders, who sold the team last year, officially announced that there will be a new incarnation of the Tucson Toros next year, playing in Hi Corbett Field as a member of the Golden Baseball League. That will make Tucson the largest city in the GBL.
While I’m mourning the loss of the Sidewinders, I’m actually very excited that we’re getting a new team. I only hope they’re able to make ends meet and generate more fan interest.
More to come.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Oh --
and I love that they’re going to play at Hi Corbett, just like the old Toros, rather than the more sterile and remote (but more concessions-friendly) TEP.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Upton seems mostly okay from the hit in the head
Says they’re going to keep an eye on it, but no problems right now.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
Wow
When Eric Byrnes says something is absurd, and he’s making a fool of himself, you know it’s got to be bad.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
Finally home
and I’m exhausted. Good to see the boys got a win today, now if only they could extend it over a couple.
What's for dinner, mum? Heinz Baked Beans.
4-1 to Dodgers now
Doesn’t look like the Padres will be any help to us tonight. Which is about par for the course.
4-2 Dodgers, bottom six
Padres got the tying run on base in in the sixth, and chased Maddux, but that was it.
We can still hope for a bullpen collapse, as unlikely as it may be.
The Padres managed it against us twice, so they’ve got to be familiar with how it works, right?
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
And they disappoint us
Thanks for nothing, Padres.
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
we can’t exactly complain… we should’ve taken care of our own business.
"There are only two seasons: winter and baseball"
-- Bill Veeck
Based on Randy’s recent outings and the team’s lack of offense, I went to today’s game expecting more of the same. Needless to say the opposite happened. Randy struggled with the long ball but we withstood that and kept pecking away until Reynolds tied it up and then later we got the lead. Thankfully, our bullpen came through (save Rauch who gave up a run again) and got the win. Unfortunately, I was surrounded by Cardinals fans. Yuck!
Padres, thanks for nothing!
Cardinals fans
seem pretty decent though, at least compared to their rivals to the north.
"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson
They're
generally good folk. I don’t know if that’s a result of the town or what, having never been there, but I’ve never met anyone but classy fans.
What's for dinner, mum? Heinz Baked Beans.
I like Cardinals fans, too.
I particularly like Cardinals fans and I particularly like Braves fans. I think all those old-skool franchises that enjoyed a lot of genuine success (rather than just buying players constantly) fairly recently produce a bumper crop of well-edjumicated fans.
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A steaming pile of human excrement
seems pretty decent compared to their rivals to the north, too.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Oh, man
Today was a Gagne Blown Save Day? I love those!
"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."
Oh, man
Today was a Gagne Blown Save Daymisses doing steroids day? I love those!
Fixed.
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