Pirates 2, Diamondbacks 0 - Imperfect Game
Record: 59-55. Pace: 84-78. Change on last season: -4
An hour later than intended, I thought I'd put this up as a placeholder for Jim and a thread for us to follow the Dodgers/Cardinals game tonight if anyone was so inclined. For the interested, it's 3-3 in the 4th.
For those who can't wait for Jim's recap, the main points of today's game are:
- Jeff Karstens' second start of the season was almost perfect, literally, retiring 23 batters before Chris Young laced a double down the left field line. He completed the game with a 2-hit shutout.
- Randy Johnson was similarly awesome for a majority of the game. He allowed a home run to Freddy Sanchez in the 4th and another run scored in the 8th. His 7th inning was particularly made of nice angry RJ strike-throwing goodness.
Now, Jim's un-condensed version. :-)
S'funny how things go. The first game of the series, we saw the worst pitching display at Chase in a very long time, with a procession of hurlers, apparently incapable of finding the strike-zone if the world's largest funnel had been placed between the mound and home-plate. But today, the unheralded Karstens, with ten career starts, comes within four batters of becoming the least experienced pitcher ever to throw a perfect game. Is it treacherous to admit that I was, to a certain extent, rooting for him over the final couple of frames?
It was not to be, however, with Chris Young ending the bid with two outs in the bottom of the eighth, delivering a clean double down the left-field line. He also walked Augie Ojeda to open the ninth, and allowed a two-out single there to Stephen Drew. Still, a two-hit, complete-game shutout is nothing to be sneezed at, especially when he got as many hits as the entire Arizona line-up. Since coming to Pittsburgh in the trade with the Yankees for Xavier Nady, Karstens has thrown nothing but zeroes, over fifteen consecutive innings, against the leaders of the NL Central and NL West. Not bad for someone who came into the year with a career ERA of 5.65. The rush to snap him up in your fantasy baseball league starts here. :-)
Despite getting tagged with the loss, Randy - the last man with a perfect game - didn't pitch badly, giving up two runs and pitching into the eighth inning: he probably wasn't helped by Melvin throwing him out once again, Johnson despite already being at a hundred pitches by the end of the seventh. That allowed Doug Mientkiewicz to win the day, driving in a run with a double: as you may recall, there was some argy-bargy earlier on between those two. There wasn't much carry-over today, much though some would have liked to see a fastball "accidentally" get away from the Big Unit.
The closest to a confrontation was Johnson pointedly stepping off the mound, when the Polish God of Scrabble was all ready to hit. Though the Pirates' hitter was full of praise for Johnson after the game this afternoon, saying: "That's the best stuff I think he's had in four or five years. His ball had some life to it. His slider was hidden very well. He was throwing it into me and away and when he does that, he's tough. There's a reason why he's won starts in a row. That's a totally different guy than what we saw [in Pittsburgh]." Certainly a radical change from his earlier comments of, "He's been out of the game for three years in my mind... That just shows me how mentally weak he is... He doesn't have intimidating stuff anymore."
The Big Unit scattered seven hits over 7.1 innings, with the only other damage a solo homer to Sanchez in the fourth, that broke a scoreless tie. He struck out seven and, for the third straight day, our starter didn't walk anyone, giving them a K:BB ratio of 19:0 for this series. Some concerns - shall we say - were expressed when Qualls came in with men on second and third and one out in the eighth, but he stopped both men from scoring, and Juan Cruz had a much more confident outing this time around, his second back off the DL. He pitched a perfect ninth, striking out two of the three hitters he faced.
The hitters, needless to say, had hardly any success, though a number of ball were hit hard and deep to the outfield. That included two of the first three batters, and you'd have got long odds at that point for the starter still being there in the eighth, never mind still throwing a perfect game. Our best - almost only - chance of breaking the shutout up came when Ojeda walked to lead off the ninth. However, Tony Clark promptly grounded straight into his fourth double-play in 33 at-bats [and that's discounting a couple of others which should have been turned by the opposition]. He only has four hits in that time, and since those 33 at-bats have resulted in 31 outs, I guess this means Clark has a "real" batting average of .061... Drew then got our second hit, before Hudson grounded out to end the game.

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Master of his domain: Augie Ojeda, +9.4%
God-emperor of suck: Tony Clark, -17.5%
Dishonorable mentions: Hudson, -12.1%; Romero, -12.0%; Tracy, -10.4%
An active Gameday Thread, with a special shout-out to ZonaBacks10, who made his debut today, though it hardly turned out to be auspicious! If we get shut-out again tomorrow, the patented SnakePit IP Address Air-Strike Co-ordinator will be booted up... :-) Also present were snakecharmer, DbacksSkins, Zephon, kishi, Wimb, soco, AJforAZ, hotclaws, utahdbacksfan, unnamedDBacksfan, SongBird, luckycc, Muu, AZSEAfan, britdback, emilylovesthedbacks, bcloirao, NewJackCity, nihil67, srdmad, dahlian, frienetic, Red Reign, dstorm, AZWILDCATS and Scrbl. Just a reminder about the no F-bombs policy too, which some people seem...keen to test, shall we say. Use them, and your comment will be hidden. Get upset about that, and further action may result. Thank you for your attention. :-)
As 'Charmer noted above, the Dodgers are playing the Cardinals as I write, and it's looking pretty good for St. Louis, as I'm pleased to report an 8-3 lead for them in the fifth. That would keep our lead at 2.5 games, and overall, I'm satisfied with having taken two out of three here. The next four games against the Teixeira-less Braves will also be an interesting test: we are supposed to be going to tomorrow night's game, but Mrs. SnakePit is feeling mucousy and less than 100%, so we will be making a decision on that nearer the time. Looks like another early night for us!
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Whoooaaa baby!!
Pujols with a GRAND SLAM!!! 7-3!!
by snakecharmer on Aug 6, 2008 9:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh excellent, Derek Lowe is the pitcher!
Well was. Ryan Ludwick with a homer to make a 8-3 and Lowe’s gooone.
by snakecharmer on Aug 6, 2008 9:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You know, even though he's on my fantasy team...
That didn’t bother me one bit.
by Azreous on Aug 7, 2008 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow..... fancy that.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
by DbacksSkins on Aug 7, 2008 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This one looks *fairly* safe
Especially as the Dodgers bullpen pitched a lot of innings last night. However, I may need to check in again a bit later, just to be sure…
by Jim McLennan on Aug 6, 2008 9:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I was kinda hoping
that the D-Backs, energized by their jump in the standings, would charge out and demolish the Pirates. Alas! The game in my head went much better than the one that they played on the field (although the real game probably had fewer flying elephants).
But 2 out of 3 ain’t bad. I remember Bob Brenley used to say that .500 on the road and .667 at home was a great way to make the playoffs. Keep up the good star, D-Backs!
"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson
by Scrbl on Aug 6, 2008 9:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
In other news,
IIRC, Bob Melvin’s next win will tie Brenly’s managerial franchise win record at 303.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
by DbacksSkins on Aug 6, 2008 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
One small error charmer...
another run scored (care of Mr. Inherited Runners himself) in the 8th.
Randy gave up that 2nd run himself. As Jim correctly noted, Qualls came in with runners on 2nd and 3rd with 1 out and didn’t let either score.
by manphibian on Aug 6, 2008 10:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Fixed it for her
Hey, it’s nice that I am the one who got it right, for once! :-)
by Jim McLennan on Aug 6, 2008 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh! Thanks! :)
I could’ve sworn the Karstens got to third and he scored later. Oops! Thanks for the fix Jim!
by snakecharmer on Aug 6, 2008 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Game's not over yet...
After a weird pinch-hitter-announcement issue, it’s 9-6 Cards with one on in the 8th.
by snakecharmer on Aug 6, 2008 10:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
DEFINITELY not over
The Cards just walked the Dodgers’ leadoff hitter, and need to mow down the next three LA hitters, or else Manny will be the tying run again…
by Jim McLennan on Aug 6, 2008 11:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Two outs now...
Just need to get Martin…
by Jim McLennan on Aug 6, 2008 11:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Mission accomplished
Thank you, St. Louis. :-)
by Jim McLennan on Aug 6, 2008 11:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Jebus
do the Dodgers ever suck….
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
by DbacksSkins on Aug 6, 2008 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
For all the praise that has been lavished on the Brewers and Rays this year, the two teams that are really getting it done without much are the Cards and Marlins. The Marlins are unbelievable… every year they manage to play competitive baseball. It’s a tribute to their talent evaluators that they can put such a good team on the field year in and year out. And the Cardinals are equally surprising. They’ve played most the year with Kyle Lohse as their #1 pitcher. Pujols has missed significant time as well. And yet here we are in August and they’re hanging around because of guys like Looper and Ludwick. That LaRussa/Duncan combo can’t be given enough credit.
"There are only two seasons: winter and baseball"
-- Bill Veeck
by njjohn on Aug 7, 2008 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really, given their previous seasons, I don’t begrudge the Rays any praise they get.
Not many people know the real reason Christopher Columbus wanted to find America.
by kishi on Aug 7, 2008 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
nor do I, it has just muted out praise of two teams who deserve it just as much.
"There are only two seasons: winter and baseball"
-- Bill Veeck
by njjohn on Aug 7, 2008 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the thing I love most about the Marlins
is the fact that they’ve made the postseason twice in their entire history, both times as the wildcard.
Both times, they ended up winning the World Series.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
by DbacksSkins on Aug 7, 2008 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, at least CY didn’t put down a bunt to break up the perfect game.
Not many people know the real reason Christopher Columbus wanted to find America.
by kishi on Aug 6, 2008 11:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
True.
We broke it up the right way—swinging. We’re NOT the Padres.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
by DbacksSkins on Aug 7, 2008 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Day games
Work and SnakePit consisting of Sedona red letters on a Sedona red background (my office computer is determined to keep me from following along here during day games or make me go blind if I do!) kept me from following the imperfect game. All I can say is it is too bad that an excellent start by Randy Johnson goes to waste once again and keeps him at 7 games short of 300. He should already be at 300 games if not for the lack of run support this team has given him over the years.
by TwinnerA on Aug 7, 2008 12:54 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Seriously
This is why I didn’t begrudge him wanting to go play for the Yankees. The team here was just awful. I know he wants to win games. With that Yankee offense, he could pitch worse and still win games.
But, nice to see him pitching well over the last month or so. I am really rooting for him to get to that 300 win mark.
Oh, and if there was anything else good about this game, it was that Karsten was traded to the Pirates from the Yankees. It makes me happy to see the Yankees trading away good pitching.
by SongBird on Aug 7, 2008 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It wasn't the wanting to go I minded so much.
It was the fact that there were so many other good teams he could have improved that weren’t the Yankees.
Bob Melvin: Black Denarian in disguise.
by nargel on Aug 7, 2008 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Meh...
Karstens was just in the zone during that game. I’m really curious as to how good he’ll end up.
Anyway, as I said in the OT chat room, I’m dating someone for the first time in several months. Obviously Women>baseball on my priorities. So I’ve been taking some time off from baseball in general. I will try and get a couple prospect articles up tonight at the earliest, or Saturday at the latest.
Dear Josh Byrnes: Please DFA Chris Burke. He can't hit, and probably never will.
by Zephon on Aug 7, 2008 5:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Women>baseball?
O rly? Why not both, like mrssoco?
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
by DbacksSkins on Aug 7, 2008 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Some women don't like baseball
It seems strange, but it’s true. Sometimes, women lie about liking baseball and then later reveal their true feelings… ::looks over at his wife::
Fire Bob Melvin
by nihil67 on Aug 7, 2008 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Uh oh.....
I hope that isn’t a pending divorce…
But anyway, is she REALLY making you choose, Wes?
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
by DbacksSkins on Aug 7, 2008 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of course not.
It’s just at this point, I’d rather spend time with my lady then on baseball. She does like baseball actually(we’re planning on a going to game some time in september). She’s a bit mystified when I talk about statistical analysis.
Really, I’m just a bit burnt out.
Dear Josh Byrnes: Please DFA Chris Burke. He can't hit, and probably never will.
by Zephon on Aug 7, 2008 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fair 'nuff.
Since she DOES like baseball, are you going to be able to knock her socks off by regaling her with sabermetrics?
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
by DbacksSkins on Aug 7, 2008 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've tried...
She tends to find statistics, let alone sabermetrics to be confusing as hell. She’d rather get drunk with my while watching the game. Unfortunately she doesn’t like beer though.
Dear Josh Byrnes: Please DFA Chris Burke. He can't hit, and probably never will.
by Zephon on Aug 7, 2008 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmmm.....
I’d still be down with her, then. I approve.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
by DbacksSkins on Aug 7, 2008 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm notoriously picky about the women I date
She’s the first girl in the last year or two that actually meets my expectations. Well, except for the whole being a White Sox fan. At least she’s not a Cubs fan though.
Dear Josh Byrnes: Please DFA Chris Burke. He can't hit, and probably never will.
by Zephon on Aug 7, 2008 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm the same way.
I seem to have really high standards somehow for any girl I consider getting serious with.
But White Sox fans are legit.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
by DbacksSkins on Aug 8, 2008 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Women who don't like baseball?
I think you guys are hanging out with the wrong girls…
:-)
by emilylovesthedbacks on Aug 7, 2008 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
See?
That’s exactly why I used mrssoco as an example. I also could have used you, Emily.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
by DbacksSkins on Aug 7, 2008 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I get this comment a lot from my guy friends-
“Why can’t I find a girl who likes baseball?”
Um. Hello?! Yeah, right here…
by emilylovesthedbacks on Aug 7, 2008 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Me too Emily
I have a lot of male friends who say the same thing. I am always saying “Hello? I like baseball.” Heck, I would even be into hearing all the sabremetrics. Sadly, I seem to be attracting only geeks lately. It hasn’t been a good year in that dept. LOL.
by SongBird on Aug 7, 2008 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whoa --
you’re a girl? We have ANOTHER girl here?? Awesome!!
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
by DbacksSkins on Aug 8, 2008 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
'Skins
Sets his flirt-o-meter to ‘Stun’. :-)
by Jim McLennan on Aug 8, 2008 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really laughed at that one… so, so true.
"There are only two seasons: winter and baseball"
-- Bill Veeck
by njjohn on Aug 8, 2008 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
.....
I’m gonna go sulk in the corner and flirt with myself now.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
by DbacksSkins on Aug 8, 2008 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sadly,
I seem to be attracting mostly assholes lately.
Hasn’t been a good summer.
by emilylovesthedbacks on Aug 8, 2008 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or born into the wrong family.
Not many people know the real reason Christopher Columbus wanted to find America.
by kishi on Aug 7, 2008 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm the only person in my family who really likes baseball.
Of course, I’m slowly converting my mom and sister. My dad and my brother are a lost cause, which is quite sad.
Dear Josh Byrnes: Please DFA Chris Burke. He can't hit, and probably never will.
by Zephon on Aug 7, 2008 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm in the same boat
the only person in my family that likes baseball is my grandma. Everyone else is a football fan, with a couple people that like hockey or basketball.
Knock off the hippie crap, strap on a helmet, and start shooting. This is baseball, Diamondbacks, I want you to storm that beach like it's Normandy!
by soco on Aug 7, 2008 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Me too
My dad claims to like baseball, but it’s a passive interest at best (and he’s a latent Cubs fan, but I don’t hold it against him since he’s been one since the 70’s). My step-brother likes it, but everyone else doesn’t care.
Fire Bob Melvin
by nihil67 on Aug 7, 2008 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My father and I like baseball. He is a Cubs fan, though. My brother is into football. Mother can’t stand sports of any kind. But, my father converted me when I was younger and living in LA. We used to listen to Vin Scully call Dodger games and I just really got into the sport.
by SongBird on Aug 7, 2008 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmmm..... Cubs fan father,
grew up listening to Dodgers games, how the heck did you turn out alright??
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
by DbacksSkins on Aug 8, 2008 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, I'm the other way around
My dad was a Dodgers fan, rest of my family were Cubs fans.
Of course, once the Diamondbacks started up, we were all Diamondbacks fans.
Am I avoiding the subject, or am I doing philosophy?
by kishi on Aug 8, 2008 1:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah.
My dad, sister and I all like baseball, my brother only watches it to spend time with the family, and my mom couldn’t care less.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
by DbacksSkins on Aug 8, 2008 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Somehow,
it’s just me and my little brother.
I got him into baseball when i started playing softball. My dad grew up in LA (Angels, not Dodgers) but was never really a fan…he likes it but I don’t know how much because I don’t really talk to him a lot. My stepdad is an NBA guy, only watches the World Series, and my mom could not care less. Now that the little bro isn’t so little (6’6 and growing) and plays basketball, I’m pretty much the only knowledgeable baseball person in my family.
Go figure.
by emilylovesthedbacks on Aug 8, 2008 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
for all females who similarly enjoy the game of beisbol.
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by DbacksSkins on Aug 8, 2008 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My mom (obviously) follows baseball and my older sister is a Mariners fan (had a Mariners blog until a few weeks ago and gave her first son the middle name of Ichiro). My little sister isn’t that big of a fan. And I’m teaching my wife about baseball. She’s learning pretty well.
Am I avoiding the subject, or am I doing philosophy?
by kishi on Aug 8, 2008 1:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Get mrskishi
to start posting at the ‘Pit?
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
by DbacksSkins on Aug 8, 2008 1:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m trying to get my daugher (Brendan Ichiro’s mom) to come visit us over here. She’s a huge Mark Grace fan, and we keep her up to date on the DBacks, and she needs relief from the Mariners this year. The Mariners are her team, but she loves the DBacks as her NL team. Plus I talked about how nice you all were, so maybe we’ll get her over here to post.
It's like living with a six-year old.
by 4 Corners Fan on Aug 8, 2008 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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