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Diamondbacks 2, Marlins 5 - Let's go, Phillies!

Record: 68-62. Pace: 85-77. Change on last season: -5
Magic number: 30. Playoff odds: 72.9%

It's startling to see that the Marlins are only third in the NL East, as their performances against us this year have been an impressive blend of hitting and pitching [though their defense could benefit from some help]. The Florida victory today finished off their third series win in 2008 against the Diamondbacks, to run the overall season record against us to 7-2. I think I speak for all of our fans, when I express some pleasure that we probably won't see them again until 2009.

Today, it was Ricky Nolasco who continued his domination of Arizona, picking up his third victory in three attempts against us this season. He will be sorry not to face us again, completing the season versus the Diamondbacks with the following line:
    Nolasco: 22.1 IP, 12 H, 4 BB, 4 R, 4 ER, 26 K, 1.61 ERA
Having won the World Series in both 1997 and 2003, I think the Marlins have an excellent chance of continuing their six-year cycle, if Nolasco pitches against everyone else like he did against us in 2008.

Today, we managed only a total of four hits, two coming off the bat of Stephen Drew, who homered to tie the game up, leading off for Arizona in the bottom of the first, then doubled in the sixth, scoring our other run on a ground-out off the bat of Conor Jackson. Jackson also got our third hit against Nolasco, doubling in the first, but he was stranded, along with Tony Clark, as Reynolds went down swinging for the first of three times against Nolasco. It was not a great day for the middle of our order: Adam Dunn, Clark and Reynolds combined to go 0-for-10 with eight strikeouts. Dunn struggled throughout the series, going 2-for-12 with one walk and six K's, but that feast or famine approach is largely what we expected.

Doug Davis struggled early on, allowing runs in the first and second inning, but then settled down somewhat from there, as is not uncommon for him. He ended up going seven innings and giving us another quality start, with three earned runs on seven hits. He walked none and struck out eight, impressive figures there, and deserved a better fate than to have his record run to 5-8. It was good to see Juan Cruz come in for the eighth, and struck out two men in his inning of work, round a single.

However, the question marks about Brandon Lyon's position as the closer remain, or indeed, are likely intensified. He was asked to come in for the ninth inning, keep it a one-run game, and give our power hitters the chance to tie the game up with one swing of the bat. He failed badly, allowing three extra-base hits to the Marlins, though in his defense, one of those was misplayed badly in right-field by Dunn. That resulted in two runs, making our situation in the  bottom of the ninth a great deal more desperate than it had been going into the top of the inning. Lyon's line in thirteen games since the All-Star break is now:
    Lyon: 12 IP, 27 H, 4 BB, 18 R, 17 ER, 8 SO, ERA 12.75

You will understand why I say that there is no way Lyon should be allowed into the ninth inning of a game where we are leading. Opponents are batting .429 against Lyon in five weeks of the second-half of the season. Apparently, "Melvin remains confident in 'pen" - he must be about the only one - and is not planning to change his relief strategy, saying "You need these guys, and you have to show confidence in them." It's bizarre how he is such a big fan of the 'hot hand' as far as placing hitters into games goes: see the recent fondness for using Miguel Montero. But he refuses to acknowledge that relief pitchers can have similar streaks - though in the case of Lyon, we appear to be dealing with something much more fundamental.

Arizona had a bit of a chance in the ninth inning, with Young singling and Dunn walking - after looking to bunt his way on with the first pitch. That was an impressive piece of baseball smarts given the huge defensive shift meant that anything at all towards third-base would have allowed him to stroll onto the bag. However, having worked the count full, Tony Clark was fooled utterly by a Gregg breaking ball, about two foot inside off the plate, and missed it by a country mile - only the worst of some truly ugly hacks by Diamondbacks' hitters this afternoon. Reynolds popped out to second, ending the game and the series. I knew it was a mistake to have the wife of an opposing player throw out the first pitch, Olympic gold-medalist or not...

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Master of his domain: Stephen Drew, +12.8%
God-emperor of suck: Mark Reynolds, -14.3%
Dishonorable mentions: Lyon, -12.4%; Clark, -12.2%; Ojeda, -10.7%

Solid Gameday Thread, with normal service being resumed after yesterday's skeleton service. Today, it almost reached 500 comments, despite the  less than appealing final resut. Present today were: TwinnerA, snakecharmer, DbacksSkins, foulpole, unnamedDBacksfan, srdmad, soco, hotclaws, emilylovesthedbacks, utahdbacksfan, mrssoco, Gravity [welcome - now you have to come back tomorrow, to prove this wasn't your fault!], Azreous, kishi and 4 Corners Fan.

Play is under way in Philadelphia, with the Dodgers trying to claw their way back to two games behind us. After two innings, they are 1-0 up: it's on ESPN as their Sunday night game, so for once we'll be able to follow this one without having to hit the 'Refresh' button quite so hard on Gameday! For Arizona, they make the short flight to San Diego, and will be hoping to repeat last week's success by sweeping the Padres: with the top of our rotation going there, I have to feel confident, even if we do face Peavy again tomorrow. I'm working on a piece looking at the schedules faced by us and the Dodgers down the stretch, so that should go up there tomorrow.

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This is what happens

when I spend an afternoon at the lake!

Also I get an ungodly sunburn, and I get so hot I think I’m going to melt. To the radio ad narrator who says “Sometimes we can forget how hot Arizona summers can be” I say “Nuts to you, sir.”

"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson

by Scrbl on Aug 24, 2008 9:44 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Tied game

in the top of the 6th.

What's for dinner, mum? Heinz Baked Beans.

by soco on Aug 24, 2008 9:57 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Phew

Two men on for the Dodgers, and Ryan Howard ends the sixth with a diving play in foul territory. It was…interesting to watch, shall we say, but I’ll take it.

Back to ESPN for dinner. :-)

by Jim McLennan on Aug 24, 2008 10:04 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That was a pesky loss. The fact that the double to Nolasco was given up early masked how important that hit was.

And Brandon… oy. We’ve got to let him get straightened out right now in non-critical situations. If we’re going to go with the hot hand in the pen for the closer’s spot it should be Pena, not Rauch right now.

"There are only two seasons: winter and baseball"
-- Bill Veeck

by njjohn on Aug 24, 2008 10:14 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Whatever happened

to going with the hot hand? Didn’t we do that a lot more with hitting and pitching last year?

"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson

by Scrbl on Aug 24, 2008 10:28 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not really news,

but Mandy is apparently a cheap douche.

Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.

by DbacksSkins on Aug 24, 2008 10:42 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

but Mandy is apparently a cheap douche.

Ah, much better.

Beer...now there's a temporary solution!

by IndyDBack on Aug 25, 2008 9:36 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And....

fatty blows the save.

Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.

by DbacksSkins on Aug 24, 2008 11:36 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Why was Ethier

feeling up[ Manny just now?

Victorino doubled to start the 11th on Manny

Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong.

by unnamedDBacksfan on Aug 25, 2008 12:15 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Um.....

::kinda creeped out right now::

Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.

by DbacksSkins on Aug 25, 2008 12:18 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Personally

I’m having Mark Grace/Michael Jordan flashbacks.

"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."

by kishi on Aug 25, 2008 1:43 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Man on Third, One Out

C’mon Phillies!

Also, would like to point out, I love the term “God-emperor of suck”

by Gravity on Aug 25, 2008 12:20 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Did anyone from the Pit

make it to the Q&A session yesterday?

Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong.

by unnamedDBacksfan on Aug 25, 2008 12:20 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

soco and the mrssoco did,

IIRC.

Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.

by DbacksSkins on Aug 25, 2008 12:22 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Soco

If true, why don’t you put up a recap of some of the pertinent questions and the answers.?

I’ve read a bit from the DBBP site from the members there that went. Would like to hear your take on it though..

Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong.

by unnamedDBacksfan on Aug 25, 2008 12:24 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sure

I’ll start working on that right now, and I’ll try and answer as correctly as I can. I didn’t take notes, though.

What's for dinner, mum? Heinz Baked Beans.

by soco on Aug 25, 2008 12:29 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Fail.
I didn’t take notes, though.

DFA soco!

Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.

by DbacksSkins on Aug 25, 2008 12:29 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hey

at least I made it to the Q&A.

What's for dinner, mum? Heinz Baked Beans.

by soco on Aug 25, 2008 12:30 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

In MY face....

Well, since I was limited by the bus and everything — and by the constraints of grabbing a Blue Moon with Jim before the game.

Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.

by DbacksSkins on Aug 25, 2008 12:34 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Kewl!

Look forward to it.

Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong.

by unnamedDBacksfan on Aug 25, 2008 12:33 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's up

What's for dinner, mum? Heinz Baked Beans.

by soco on Aug 25, 2008 12:54 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

thanks

appreciate the time.

Glad you and the Mrs won the signed BBall.

Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong.

by unnamedDBacksfan on Aug 25, 2008 1:44 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We did!

And we won a ball signed by Doug Davis! :) It was BRILLIANT!

What a crazy random happenstance!

by mrssoco on Aug 25, 2008 12:39 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

heh

Now I’m imaging the Doctor at a baseball game.

"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."

by kishi on Aug 25, 2008 1:44 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Aww, that would have been awesome.

Though I would have to mentally debate between 9 or 10. I love them both so equally. Granted brilliant is really more of 10 than 9. Still. :)

What a crazy random happenstance!

by mrssoco on Aug 25, 2008 1:54 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah

With 9 it would be fan*tastic!*

I think I have to give a slight (very slight) edge to 10 over 9. But that’s possibly just because he’s more recent in my mind.

"Only one thing is gonna walk you through this, Mal. Belief."

by kishi on Aug 25, 2008 2:03 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Does

it go to 11?

Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.

by DbacksSkins on Aug 25, 2008 3:19 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Crappola

1st pitch hacking , infield pop up

two outs

Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong.

by unnamedDBacksfan on Aug 25, 2008 12:20 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Cole Hamels PH?

WTF, mate?

Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.

by DbacksSkins on Aug 25, 2008 12:21 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Pedro Feliz!

Walkoff.

Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.

by DbacksSkins on Aug 25, 2008 12:21 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

FELIZ!!!

HR Phillies!

The dudgers lose!

Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong.

by unnamedDBacksfan on Aug 25, 2008 12:21 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

THREE GAMES UP!

THREE GAMES UP!!

Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.

by DbacksSkins on Aug 25, 2008 12:22 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You beat me to it.

I was just coming in here to chant that myself. :-)

by Jim McLennan on Aug 25, 2008 12:25 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We need

people to pass by on the way to their cars, glaring at us in indignation.

What's for dinner, mum? Heinz Baked Beans.

by soco on Aug 25, 2008 12:29 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We can probably

assume that some lurkers are doing just that.

Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.

by DbacksSkins on Aug 25, 2008 12:30 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Just a hunch

AZWILDCAT?

Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong.

by unnamedDBacksfan on Aug 25, 2008 12:34 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Actually...

I’m doing it too. Just because.

by Azreous on Aug 25, 2008 12:34 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

TOTALLY in our faces with that one.

Even though you’re not a lurker.

Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.

by DbacksSkins on Aug 25, 2008 12:38 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Somehow it loses its luster

When there isn’t 40 of us. I think I am spoiled now. Games are fun with soco, but i liked the spasticly large group. :)

Still… THREE GAMES UP!

What a crazy random happenstance!

by mrssoco on Aug 25, 2008 12:31 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It WAS nice

that there was somebody there who was nearly as hyperactive as myself.

Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.

by DbacksSkins on Aug 25, 2008 12:38 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You didn't see me at the very beginning

I fairly pounced on the kishis in joy. (I didn’t know many people!) Then Emily got there and we girled out even more for a bit. I lost a bit of energy before you came in!

What a crazy random happenstance!

by mrssoco on Aug 25, 2008 12:42 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wait --

and me being there DIDN’T return you to that energy level?? :-(

::crestfallen::

Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.

by DbacksSkins on Aug 25, 2008 12:49 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What can I say?

Mrs. Kishi and Emily wore me out. ;)

What a crazy random happenstance!

by mrssoco on Aug 25, 2008 12:56 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ah, women.

They’ll do that.

Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.

by DbacksSkins on Aug 25, 2008 1:11 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not surprising

the way the past few months have gone

Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong.

by unnamedDBacksfan on Aug 25, 2008 12:24 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We're gonna win it

because we can’t give it away. It’s a weird kind of destiny.

"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson

by Scrbl on Aug 25, 2008 12:25 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We try and try and try

but nobody steps up to claim it.

Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong.

by unnamedDBacksfan on Aug 25, 2008 12:26 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Albeit in radically different ways

The Phillies led their game for exactly one pitch.

Fortunately, it was the last one. :-)

by Jim McLennan on Aug 25, 2008 12:26 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Fortunately, it was the last one. :-)

All that matters, right?

Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.

by DbacksSkins on Aug 25, 2008 12:29 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm a fan

of beer.

Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.

by DbacksSkins on Aug 25, 2008 12:28 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yippeee!!!!!!!!

My sister just yelled from the other room that the Dodger game was in extras (I figured the game was over and LA had won) and that Philly won!!!!

by TwinnerA on Aug 25, 2008 12:27 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yea!

Glad to see the DBacks ineptitude wasn’t punished today. I keep thinking it will be, but strangely they seem to be coasting by.

If this team does manage to make the playoffs, I am not sure what will happen. The lack of offense is worrying. I am worried that the last two Randy Johnson started games might be a preview of what the team would look like in the playoffs. I think it may be a bit much to ask Webby, Haren and RJ to go out there and pitch shutouts. Not that they can’t. But still.

by SongBird on Aug 25, 2008 4:49 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If they play the Cubs

I like our chances.

What's for dinner, mum? Heinz Baked Beans.

by soco on Aug 25, 2008 8:07 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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