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Gameday Thread, #127: 8/21 vs. Padres

San Diego Padres at Arizona Diamondbacks, Aug 21, 2008 9:40 PM EDT


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Chad Reineke
RHP, 1-0, 5.40

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Brandon Webb
RHP, 18-4, 2.85

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Our streak atop the division has been occasionally fragile - perhaps the closest was August 9th where, the Dodgers blew a 10th-inning lead that would have let them overtake us. But one stat [shamelessly stolen from Dodger Thoughts] explains why its unbroken. Since leaving second-place on April 5th, Arizona have woken up tied for first-place nine times. They are a remarkably clutch 9-0 in games played that day, having outscored our opponents 66-27 in those contests.

Tonight, with a 1.5-game lead [the Dodgers having won this afternoon], there is no such issue, but with Webb on the mound, going for his nineteenth win, I have to feel confident. He hasn't lost a game in almost two months, being 7-0 with a 2.28 ERA in his last ten outings - and a perfect five-for-five, with a 1.89 ERA, in the past month. Reineke has one major-league start under his belt, but as we've seen before [c.f. Cueto, Johnny], that doesn't necessarily mean very much.

It's been a fun series so far, with the new-found fondenss by the Diamondbacks for strolling to first overcoming an offensive indifference [our SLG this series is 32 points above our OBP!] Still, our OPS for August is .780, our best since April, and that's reflected in a healthy average of 5.33 runs per game. That's not apparently 'luck', either - our BABIP is .292, basically identical to the NL average of .294. I note, with some interest, the Dodgers are up at .325, so their recent success has the scent of over-achievement.

Should be about for this: we finished the PFFF program, and so I shouldn't have too much to do this evening. Whether I choose not do it in the living-room, or in the office, will likely determine my participation in the comments! I'll finish with another stat, this one courtesy of Gennaro Felice of SI: Padres catchers are hitting .195 this season. No other team in baseball has an entire position south of the Uecker Line.

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C'mon, Webby.

Let’s get that sweep.

Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.

by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 8:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Actually,

it’s probably more meaningful if I say, “C’mon, hitters” instead, as I have more confidence in Webby doing his job than the hitters.

Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.

by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

moar long bombs

We will meet in Red 3 at the hour of scampering.

by hotclaws on Aug 21, 2008 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Today’s lineup:

S. Drew ss .283
C. Young cf .239
C. Jackson lf .304
A. Dunn rf .238
M. Reynolds 3b .245
T. Clark 1b .248
C. Snyder c .250
A. Ojeda 2b .258
B. Webb p .145

TC gets the start at 1b vs the RHP as we have 4 LHBs in the line up today.

by foulpole on Aug 21, 2008 8:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Those other guys:

J. Gerut cf .303
T. Iguchi 2b .243
B. Giles rf .290
A. Gonzalez 1b .282
K. Kouzmanoff 3b .280
C. Headley lf .263
N. Hundley c .215
L. Rodriguez ss .230
C. Reineke p .500

Scooter is nowhere to be found in the lineup?

by foulpole on Aug 21, 2008 8:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Hmmmm.......

Good column. ::snicker::

Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.

by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 8:37 PM EDT reply actions  

I heard about that one

They were lamenting it over at Dodger Thoughts earlier in the week.

by Jim McLennan on Aug 21, 2008 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Too true.

It really does defy logic, though…. unless they were betting that we would stand pat with our lineup, the way we did last year, even in the face of the Pads getting Milton Bradley.

See? Just goes to show you should never bet.

Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.

by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Padres catchers are hitting .195 this season.

Michael Barrett’s on the DL?

Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.

by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 8:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Since July 4

And he was hitting only .202 this season.

by Jim McLennan on Aug 21, 2008 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly!

He could have given them that extra boost!!

Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.

by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

lets go

we need some early runs for webby today. Then we could kick back and watch him work his magic.

by J Up on Aug 21, 2008 8:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Or maybe some early magic from Webby so we can kick back and watch our O work it’s magic throughout the game? ;-)

by foulpole on Aug 21, 2008 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

holly with a phioenix feather,11inches long

We will meet in Red 3 at the hour of scampering.

by hotclaws on Aug 21, 2008 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Magic. It’s a description of a magic wand.

It's like living with a six-year old.

by 4 Corners Fan on Aug 21, 2008 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, to be a nerd, I would say, from Olivander’s Shop.

But it’s from Harry Potter.

It's like living with a six-year old.

by 4 Corners Fan on Aug 21, 2008 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

You should just be a nerd. ;)

by snakecharmer on Aug 21, 2008 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m afraid I already am.

It's like living with a six-year old.

by 4 Corners Fan on Aug 21, 2008 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

That would explain why I’ve never hear it. Thanks.

by foulpole on Aug 21, 2008 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

You know,

all it takes is “a Google” to find the answer to that….

Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.

by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thank you, Miss Olivander

Am I avoiding the subject, or am I doing philosophy?

by kishi on Aug 21, 2008 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

We won't know if she's right, though

until we see if it blows everything out of the ballpark….

by snakecharmer on Aug 21, 2008 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

hi

time to close it out Dbacks. Perhaps a Dragonforce facemelting solo will lift them to glory?

"Yeah I could have been king, but maybe I already am king. Hail to the king baby." Ash from Army of Darkness

by Turambar on Aug 21, 2008 9:07 PM EDT reply actions  

It can't hurt, right?

Well, unless you’re Joel Zumaya.

Am I avoiding the subject, or am I doing philosophy?

by kishi on Aug 21, 2008 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Joel Zumala?

Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.

by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, I'm on to you now

Mister President.

Am I avoiding the subject, or am I doing philosophy?

by kishi on Aug 21, 2008 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Drat!!

But c’mon, admit it. You knew it all along.

Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.

by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Your Facebook status updates

Have led me to believe otherwise.

Am I avoiding the subject, or am I doing philosophy?

by kishi on Aug 21, 2008 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

True.

Unless it’s just cover….

Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.

by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Another night with the D-backs’ feed!

——-!

by foulpole on Aug 21, 2008 9:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Well, it's a home game.

All the home games should have the Dbacks feed.

Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.

by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, Daron just said “the sweep” while I was reading your post. And I thought he said, “Sweet” LOL

It's like living with a six-year old.

by 4 Corners Fan on Aug 21, 2008 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

The totalitarian regime has “voted” that word inappropriate. I would guess that Daron has gotten word as well? ;-)

by foulpole on Aug 21, 2008 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

It wasn't really a "totalitarian regime".

It was pretty much by popular caucus.

Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.

by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or popular demand.

It's like living with a six-year old.

by 4 Corners Fan on Aug 21, 2008 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hi ^^

Wikipedia is accurate. (citation needed)

by Muu on Aug 21, 2008 9:40 PM EDT reply actions  

*waves*

We will meet in Red 3 at the hour of scampering.

by hotclaws on Aug 21, 2008 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Two pitches, one out!

——-!

by foulpole on Aug 21, 2008 9:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Besides, do totalitarian regimes really vote? I think they just declare.

It's like living with a six-year old.

by 4 Corners Fan on Aug 21, 2008 9:41 PM EDT reply actions  

That’s why i used “quotes” on the word vote.

by foulpole on Aug 21, 2008 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's why

it was a caucus. We all came to a consensus.

Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.

by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I prefer

To think of myself as a benevolent dictator. My word is law, but I generally do things for the good of the entire nation, not my own selfish interests…

by Jim McLennan on Aug 21, 2008 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

A dictator

in the classical sense, not the modern sense.

Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.

by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Benevolent and Enlightened

Even benevolent dictators have to stifle dissent to stay in power. Ugly as it is, you are duty-bound to drag Padre and Dodger fans out of their houses in the middle of the night and send them to re-education camps. Yankees fans will probably have to be liquidated outright, though.

by UofAZGrad on Aug 21, 2008 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Like I said

Whatever the good of the entire nation demands. :-)

by Jim McLennan on Aug 21, 2008 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Love the minimalist pitching! Go Brandon!

It's like living with a six-year old.

by 4 Corners Fan on Aug 21, 2008 9:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh, geez! The first two hitter went down pretty quick but to base runners since.

:-(

by foulpole on Aug 21, 2008 9:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Bear down Webby!!!

by foulpole on Aug 21, 2008 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

OT: Georgia update

My navy buddy said that at 0900 Tues morning, an Arleigh Burke class guided missile destroyer left Crete, (ended up being the USS McFaul) passed through the Bosporus and was in the Black Sea by Weds at noon. Amphibious landing craft USS Mount Whitney is to follow, as is a Coast Guard cutter. It’s been released to the press, so….

Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.

by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 9:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Shanked that one.

Not a good block though by Snydes.

by TwinnerA on Aug 21, 2008 9:46 PM EDT reply actions  

A fastball in the dirt is highly unexpected. I would have to give Webby the “credit” for that one.

by foulpole on Aug 21, 2008 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes

Grace was explaining that one: if the catcher is expecting a fastball, they have their legs closer together, which makes it harder to go down and block the ball if it gets spiked.

by Jim McLennan on Aug 21, 2008 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

hey oh! lets go!

com’on tyler…

Wikipedia is accurate. (citation needed)

by Muu on Aug 21, 2008 9:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice job by Webby getting out of a jam there!

——-!

by foulpole on Aug 21, 2008 9:48 PM EDT reply actions  

That was a little tougher

Than it looked like it was going to be. Still, zero posted: let’s show the Padres early that this pitcher is not going to be Cueto v2.0…

by Jim McLennan on Aug 21, 2008 9:48 PM EDT reply actions  

I worry about the DBacks when they face a pitcher they have never seen before. It seems like they struggle. A lot.

by SongBird on Aug 21, 2008 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Out of the jam

Phew! Have deja vu of yesterday there for a moment.

by TwinnerA on Aug 21, 2008 9:48 PM EDT reply actions  

They have to get past

The Brewers first, before I start getting excited about them… :-)

If you mean the Arizona Cardinals, that would be a “no,” personally.

by Jim McLennan on Aug 21, 2008 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I meant the Arizona Cardinals. Was watching the ad for something involving them on FSN.

It's like living with a six-year old.

by 4 Corners Fan on Aug 21, 2008 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, they are the prettiest

amongst the hierarchy of the Catholic Church

We will meet in Red 3 at the hour of scampering.

by hotclaws on Aug 21, 2008 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Imagine no possessions…and not religion too…

by foulpole on Aug 21, 2008 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did you say Redskins?

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cy stuff

good job Tyler

Wikipedia is accurate. (citation needed)

by Muu on Aug 21, 2008 9:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Wolf is battling nicely from a 0-2 count.

by foulpole on Aug 21, 2008 9:52 PM EDT reply actions  

1-2-3 ... I've seen it before...

Wikipedia is accurate. (citation needed)

by Muu on Aug 21, 2008 9:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Hey.... wait a second!

I’ve seen this movie before!!

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

about a million times

are you suggesting coconuts migrate?

by utahdbacksfan on Aug 21, 2008 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's the hero with a thousand faces!

Only it’s a villain! And the villain is a pitcher we’ve never seen before!

Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.

by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

And the keys to the game

From G and S:
Karstens….Morton…Reineke?

Guess they forgot Cueto.

by Jim McLennan on Aug 21, 2008 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Solid 1-2-3 for Webby!

——-!

by foulpole on Aug 21, 2008 10:01 PM EDT reply actions  

His ERA

Is now better than Peavy’s, and up to 4th in the NL.

by Jim McLennan on Aug 21, 2008 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

now better than Peavy’s

Thanks to us. :-P

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Damned right.

Now we only have to light up Timcecum.

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Comment bot.

Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.

by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 10:04 PM EDT reply actions  

AAAAAAAANNNND

dunn walks

are you suggesting coconuts migrate?

by utahdbacksfan on Aug 21, 2008 10:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Another walk for Dunn

What a slacker!

"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson

by Scrbl on Aug 21, 2008 10:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Not running home enough and walking all the time… We should DFA him!

by singaporedbacksfan on Aug 21, 2008 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Clogging up the basepaths.

TOTALLY worthless.

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's one way to keep him from seeing a full count

Just throw him four straight balls.

Am I avoiding the subject, or am I doing philosophy?

by kishi on Aug 21, 2008 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

There you go…a unintentional intentional walk for the Beast?

Reineke was just plain scared.

by foulpole on Aug 21, 2008 10:05 PM EDT reply actions  

And,

another 2 bagger for Mark.

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 10:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Hmmm.....

Should the comment bot be allowed to say “BEEP Reynolds with another XBH with runners on BEEP”?

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

mark = god

are you suggesting coconuts migrate?

by utahdbacksfan on Aug 21, 2008 10:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh, I know....

Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.

by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Uh oh.

Muu just broke the seal.

Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.

by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

did I? =[

Wikipedia is accurate. (citation needed)

by Muu on Aug 21, 2008 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was just going to post, in fact....

“So…. to say the thing that’s on everyone’s mind….. when do we start talking about whether or not to resign Adam Dunn??”

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's very tempting.

"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson

by Scrbl on Aug 21, 2008 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well see,

now we’ve been doubly screwed by the freaking Eric Byrnes signing — firstly by losing Carlos Quentin, and now because of it we probably can’t resign Adam Dunn — partly because of the money, and partly because we’d have too many expensive outfielders.

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Worse things could happen.

by foulpole on Aug 21, 2008 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Like

resigning your boy Eric Byrnes?

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Solid two bagger for Reynolds!

——-!

Lineup protection is a fallacy. LMAO!

by foulpole on Aug 21, 2008 10:06 PM EDT reply actions  

boa TC!

Wikipedia is accurate. (citation needed)

by Muu on Aug 21, 2008 10:07 PM EDT reply actions  

And,

TC deep flyout allows Dunn to lumber home, and Reynolds slides in under the tag at 3rd.

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 10:07 PM EDT reply actions  

nice sac flay for TC and good heads up base running for Reynolds!

by foulpole on Aug 21, 2008 10:07 PM EDT reply actions  

BTW,after what I asked about retiring numbers

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080821&content_id=3347115&vkey=n
this turns up.Do front office at Chase Field read this?

We will meet in Red 3 at the hour of scampering.

by hotclaws on Aug 21, 2008 10:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Um.....

there’s nothing there?

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah.

Yeah, didn’t get the full addy.

Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.

by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

sorry

still finding my way round new laptop

We will meet in Red 3 at the hour of scampering.

by hotclaws on Aug 21, 2008 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

But basically

Hall said, “Jersey numbers will be retired only after a player enters the Hall of Fame as a Diamondback.”

by Jim McLennan on Aug 21, 2008 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Interesting

Don’t know that I entirely agree with it. But at least our first retired number will be someone who really was a Diamondback, unlike some other franchises I could name… ::looks significantly at Tampa Bay::

Am I avoiding the subject, or am I doing philosophy?

by kishi on Aug 21, 2008 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Goddammit.

Augie Ks with a runner on 3rd.

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 10:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Hindsight alert

Why doesnt Augie bunt there? Safety squeeze, Reynolds runs decent at third, young pitcher on the mound. I love Augie, but he’s not a sac fly threat, and even if he walks, you got Webb up with the bases loaded, akin to kissing your sister.

Maybe Augie’s not as good a bunter as I assumed.

by Diamondhacks on Aug 21, 2008 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

We only bunt

when the other team doesn’t expect it. Our first weapon is surprise!

"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson

by Scrbl on Aug 21, 2008 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

our three main weapons are fear,

surprise, ruthless efficiency, and an almost fanatical devotion to the pope

oh blast try again

are you suggesting coconuts migrate?

by utahdbacksfan on Aug 21, 2008 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

We only bunt

when our best hitters are up.

Orlando Hudson, for example.

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

C'MON WEBBY!!

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 10:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Somehow

runs the count full….

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

webb = dunn?

are you suggesting coconuts migrate?

by utahdbacksfan on Aug 21, 2008 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm tellin' ya!

The entire team is becoming Adam Dunn!!

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

New Pitcher

I hope Webb understands that pitching with a 4 run lead is easier than a one run lead and “decides” to homer

by UofAZGrad on Aug 21, 2008 10:14 PM EDT reply actions  

LOL

Webby is 5 for 17 with 2 outs and RISP

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 10:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Reineke looks shook.

by foulpole on Aug 21, 2008 10:14 PM EDT reply actions  

This sounds wrong in the context of Singaporean English…

by singaporedbacksfan on Aug 21, 2008 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not from Singapore. I was raised in PHX. Nor am I from the slums in England.

I try to be geocentric but if some of the things i write on this thread are offensive to you or anybody else then I just gotta say that the words I use are very widely acceptable in PHX.

by foulpole on Aug 21, 2008 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow, okay take a step back!

What makes you think that was an insult? I for one laughed at it!

by snakecharmer on Aug 21, 2008 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think the meaning was

It should have been “looks shaken.” I think even PHX English teachers would agree, never mind those from the English slums…

by Jim McLennan on Aug 21, 2008 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

That could work too

Personally, I was thinking about Singaporean pronunciation of what words might mean…

by snakecharmer on Aug 21, 2008 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought

he was saying that, when spoken by a Singaporean, it sounds dirty…. or something like that.

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't worry man

It just sounded suggestive and I found it amusing… nothing offensive at all! Sorry if I sounded offended.

by singaporedbacksfan on Aug 21, 2008 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

No no, you didn’t. :) Please don’t worry!

by snakecharmer on Aug 21, 2008 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's good to know

In Singlish, shook suggests joy or happiness. When you something looks shook, it means that the person brings pleasure… of the more primal sort. Hope this clears it up.

Don’t know the way PHX undertones of it though.

by singaporedbacksfan on Aug 21, 2008 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

webb unclutch

DFA now!

Wikipedia is accurate. (citation needed)

by Muu on Aug 21, 2008 10:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah. That batter sucks.

Cut him!!

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

In fact,

maybe we can trade him to the Yankees for someone clutch. Like Derek Jeter.

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Webb should spend time in the cages

Haren gets doubles and walks so he got the contract.

by UofAZGrad on Aug 21, 2008 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

That

would be a monster….

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

every time I read "Reineke"

a beer comes to my mind o.O

Wikipedia is accurate. (citation needed)

by Muu on Aug 21, 2008 10:20 PM EDT reply actions  

When I read it

I think of a car care place.

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hmmm...

Pot last night, beer tonight. Bit of the party animal, aren’t you? :-)

by Jim McLennan on Aug 21, 2008 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Brasil, país tropical...

hot parties everyday =X

Wikipedia is accurate. (citation needed)

by Muu on Aug 21, 2008 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Beautiful women,

too.

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

for sure

Wikipedia is accurate. (citation needed)

by Muu on Aug 21, 2008 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

and hot wax?

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by hotclaws on Aug 21, 2008 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

jinxed

are you suggesting coconuts migrate?

by utahdbacksfan on Aug 21, 2008 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m told he’s an attractive man

by Diamondhacks on Aug 21, 2008 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, I mean,

he’s no Mark Reynolds….

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I defer to your…um…evaluations

by Diamondhacks on Aug 21, 2008 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

+2

to Jenny. An additional -2 to Jim.

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL thanks

So are you seeing your brother over the laptop screen or what? :P

by snakecharmer on Aug 21, 2008 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

What?

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL. Nevermind, I won’t explain it here… maybe OT chat tho. It’s been boring lately!

by snakecharmer on Aug 21, 2008 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

A bunch of us

were there last night. Sans you, apparently.

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

we had a

paaaaaaaartaaaaayy

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by hotclaws on Aug 21, 2008 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Awww, I missed one?

Well, y’know, the parrrtaay I had in person was just as much fun. :)

by snakecharmer on Aug 21, 2008 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well

plus, we were talking about you, so….

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Damn damn damn

I thought that one was going out for sure.

by TwinnerA on Aug 21, 2008 10:26 PM EDT reply actions  

ARGH.

Headley makes the catch at the warning track.

Two deep flies in a row caught in LF.

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 10:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Evening all...hopefully we keep doing well

I personnally like it when we score more than the opponents…

by AF DBacks Fanatic on Aug 21, 2008 10:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Evening!

Aren’t you shipping out pretty soon?

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm here for a while

(as far as I know) I get to stay put…although you never know…

by AF DBacks Fanatic on Aug 21, 2008 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah.

I was under the impression that you were leaving in another month…

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

down comes from eider ducks

not bears

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by hotclaws on Aug 21, 2008 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Webb works out of trouble again

Strand another two.

Now how about some more runs?

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by kishi on Aug 21, 2008 10:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Phil

is a huge fan of teh runs.

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Webb

gets outta it.

Cool sign: “Cy Webb”

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 10:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Please. Proper syntax.

Mo betta.

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

numbah one,

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by hotclaws on Aug 21, 2008 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Captain?

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Make it so.

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by kishi on Aug 21, 2008 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Aye, sir.

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Engage!

On a related note, I’m sad that the Star Trek Experience is closing next month. I got to go see it last year, and it was pretty cool.

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by kishi on Aug 21, 2008 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Star Trek Experience?

Is that the one at the LV Hilton?

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

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by kishi on Aug 21, 2008 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Closing?

Seriously? Why?

It's like living with a six-year old.

by 4 Corners Fan on Aug 21, 2008 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Hilton didn’t renew their lease.

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by kishi on Aug 21, 2008 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

For what?

To replace it with strippers or something?

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

No idea

Nothing I’ve found has said what they’re planning to put there, just that they think they can make more money with something else. Which is lame. It was such a awesome, nerdy experience, I loved it.

Paramount is apparently looking to find somewhere else to put it, though.

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by kishi on Aug 21, 2008 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hate Las Vegas.

Totally.

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

They're closing it? Lame.

Why? What are they gonna replace it with?

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

may i suggest

fast food then?

are you suggesting coconuts migrate?

by utahdbacksfan on Aug 21, 2008 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Especially

Mexican fast food. Its deliciousness is only surpassed by its runsness.

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

you may

Burger King breakfast has a tendency to do that

by AF DBacks Fanatic on Aug 21, 2008 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I prefer

McGriddles.

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Those are kind of good

As long as you get the sausage.

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by kishi on Aug 21, 2008 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Once again

The Padres have out-hit us, but they’re trailing. Part of me thinks it would be cool to sweep the series, despite being outhit in every game…

by Jim McLennan on Aug 21, 2008 10:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Bah

I’d be more impressed if we could sweep the series, despite being outscored in every game.

I heard Mark Reynolds could do that.

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by kishi on Aug 21, 2008 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mark Reynolds

could have swept the Red Sox last year in the WS… singlehandedly.

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not that

a walk would bother me, though.

Oh, look — and TC gets a hit!

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

top

(more British slang)

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by hotclaws on Aug 21, 2008 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ugh.

I HATE pitchers that throw the high heat…. we freaking pop it up EVERY TIME.

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 10:50 PM EDT reply actions  

They throw heat

And we get Byrnesed.

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by kishi on Aug 21, 2008 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

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by hotclaws on Aug 21, 2008 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

OMG!! JESSICA SIMPSON LIVE!!????

I AM SO THERE, LOLZ!!

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 10:52 PM EDT reply actions  

wasn't she married to Roger Rabbit?

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by hotclaws on Aug 21, 2008 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

No

that was Jessica Alba.

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

::rimshot::

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sauron feeds us delicious manflesh

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by hotclaws on Aug 21, 2008 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hmm

hotclaws, I’m just going to make a note to keep you off the catering committee for future reference…

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by kishi on Aug 21, 2008 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you put 'em in a blender,

they taste like nacho cheese.

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Does she sing? Or does she just stand around and pout?

It's like living with a six-year old.

by 4 Corners Fan on Aug 21, 2008 10:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Hey

At least she doesn’t eat buffalo wings. :-)

by Jim McLennan on Aug 21, 2008 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought she just messed up Tony Romo’s Mojo

by AF DBacks Fanatic on Aug 21, 2008 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's not fair. It's really not fair.

That’s my teammate! That’s my quarterback!! ::cries::

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

The ghost of Joe Gibbs is laughing at you

What do you mean, Joe Gibbs isn’t dead?

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by kishi on Aug 21, 2008 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Eh....

little bit sensitive, bro. Joe Bugel’s 36 year old daughter died of bone cancer today. :-(

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, that sucks

Sorry.

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by kishi on Aug 21, 2008 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, it's really sad.

She had a particularly aggressive form - like I said, 36 years old. :(

IIRC, she was in the Valley. The funeral is up there next week.

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Um......

that was weird….. why the strikethrough?

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Putting two -s in a post is the new SBN 2.1 shorthand for strikethrough.

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by kishi on Aug 21, 2008 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Apparently

there’s a format shortcut for strikethroughs.

by snakecharmer on Aug 21, 2008 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

And apparently

I just found out. But…. but……. the double hyphen is proper punctuation!!

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey!

Reineke is teh suck at bunting….. we found somebody who bunts worse than O-Dawg!!

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 10:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh yeah?

How is he at hitting into a double play?

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by kishi on Aug 21, 2008 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Webb continues to mow 'em down

Five shutout innings and we’re talking about the Star Trek Experience and Jessica Simpson. :-9

by Jim McLennan on Aug 21, 2008 11:00 PM EDT reply actions  

There's only so many times

you can say “Annnd, Webb gets another ground ball.”

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

After the fourth or fifth time in a game

You hear a knock on your door and find out that CommentBot is filing a lawsuit against you.

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by kishi on Aug 21, 2008 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Besides

the Jessica Simpson conversation was relevant to the Dbacks.

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, not totally, but

it was started by Sutton and Grace and the Dbacks promo guys…. so it was inevitable.

by snakecharmer on Aug 21, 2008 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

We don’t want to jinx anything.

It's like living with a six-year old.

by 4 Corners Fan on Aug 21, 2008 11:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Leadoff hit by Ojeda

Let’s pad the lead here.

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by kishi on Aug 21, 2008 11:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Well.....

it’s only a 1-0 lead… so yeah.

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I didn’t think it would be a controversial suggestion.

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by kishi on Aug 21, 2008 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Augie!

Leadoff single.

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 11:01 PM EDT reply actions  

oi,oi,oi

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by hotclaws on Aug 21, 2008 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wtf?!

That “strike” was 2 inches below Webby’s knees!

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 11:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Webb can't sacrifice Augie to second

Neither can Drew.

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by kishi on Aug 21, 2008 11:03 PM EDT reply actions  

he comes through

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by hotclaws on Aug 21, 2008 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I definitely

liked the Chris Young 2007 model better than the 2008 model so far. But, hey, maybe they’ll recall the ’08 model to make modifications.

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lead padded!

3-0!

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by kishi on Aug 21, 2008 11:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow......

Yusmeiro Petit’s ERA is tied with the Marlins starter’s, but RJ and Double D are facing guys with ERAs in the 3’s….. ARGH WE’RE GONNA GET SWEPT. I hate the Marlins.

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 11:07 PM EDT reply actions  

squish the fish

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by hotclaws on Aug 21, 2008 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

If things go bad on Saturday

We’ll storm the field.

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by kishi on Aug 21, 2008 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pitcher-friendly park.

Nolasco’s ERA+ is only 113, which would be about four in Arizona. And small sample size for the other two: Volstad hasn’t thrown 50 innings yet, and Sanchez less than 25.

by Jim McLennan on Aug 21, 2008 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's a pretty impressive park effect.

Haven’t both Nolasco and Volstad beaten us already?

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nolasco has beaten us twice

Fifteen innings, two earned runs – so that’ll be no fun. Haven’t seen Volstad though.

by Jim McLennan on Aug 21, 2008 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Florida is 7-12 this month and hasn’t won 2 games in a row during that time. Wish we had either Haren or Webb for the series, but Davis was better last time out and the Petit Unit has pitched well and Randy has been, well, just fabulous.

by TwinnerA on Aug 21, 2008 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Davis was "better" last time out

because he was pitching against…. the mighty Padres.

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Comment bot

Adam Dunn BB (IBB this time)

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 11:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Dunn IBB

This is going to drop his P/AB.

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by kishi on Aug 21, 2008 11:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Well,

I’ll take the 2 runs. Would have been nicer to get more, though.

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 11:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Augie Augie Augie!

Nice D!

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by kishi on Aug 21, 2008 11:12 PM EDT reply actions  

We'll show the Watcher's Council yet

Now to get Wyndam-Pryce.

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by kishi on Aug 21, 2008 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, to be fair

The Watcher’s Council was gone before then.

And he’s a ghost in the comics. I think. I’m a bit fuzzy on that.

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by kishi on Aug 21, 2008 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

...and also

Gonzalez. That was the sticky bit of the Padres order first couple of times through.

by Jim McLennan on Aug 21, 2008 11:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Webby knocks the liner down

with his body. Another 1-2-3 inning.

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 11:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Mmm, Buffalo Wild Wings.

Well, after reviewing the thread to this point, I gotta say…

Webb definitely doesn’t look shook out there.

by Azreous on Aug 21, 2008 11:16 PM EDT reply actions  

86 pitches for Webb through 6. Impressive stuff. Man, do I wish we had locked him up before this season. At some point he’s going to be able to get handed a blank check and write down whatever number he dreams.

"There are only two seasons: winter and baseball"
-- Bill Veeck

by njjohn on Aug 21, 2008 11:17 PM EDT reply actions  

he'll be worth it though

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by hotclaws on Aug 21, 2008 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

+A bajillion

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by kishi on Aug 21, 2008 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

agreed

are you suggesting coconuts migrate?

by utahdbacksfan on Aug 21, 2008 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’ll be worth it… but we might not be able to afford him. I have no idea what the hangups were before the season, but I’ll be really agitated if we can’t lock him down.

"There are only two seasons: winter and baseball"
-- Bill Veeck

by njjohn on Aug 21, 2008 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

God forbid

They better be able to find a way to afford him. If they supposedly agreed on an amount, what is the hangup?

by TwinnerA on Aug 21, 2008 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Guesses include

incentives and/or no-trade clauses.

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

And... once again,

Augie Ojeda is probably playing a better defensive 2B than Orlando Hudson has this season….

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 11:17 PM EDT reply actions  

no doubt about it.

"There are only two seasons: winter and baseball"
-- Bill Veeck

by njjohn on Aug 21, 2008 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Plays like that and it really makes me rethink moving Reynolds to 2B. Maybe we start Augie over there when Webby’s pitching and Reynolds the other days.

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by njjohn on Aug 21, 2008 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

well, he's not wasting time talking I guess

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by hotclaws on Aug 21, 2008 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's Augie Freaking Ojeda.

He’s not sitting around thinking of dollar signs.

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

augie freaking ojeda

that works somehow…

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by utahdbacksfan on Aug 21, 2008 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oi oi oi?

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

actually,

most names would work with freaking in the middle

i would love to see the announcer at games introduce the lineups that way

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by utahdbacksfan on Aug 21, 2008 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hmmm....

my grandparents never gave my dad a middle name. I guess it could just be “Freaking”?

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Speaking of middle names....

I go by my middle name, Wesley. I hate my first name.

Freedom is nothing but a chance to be better. -Albert Camus

by C. Wesley Baier on Aug 21, 2008 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

What's your first name?

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

What?

My middle name is Bruce. There.

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Clayton

Freedom is nothing but a chance to be better. -Albert Camus

by C. Wesley Baier on Aug 21, 2008 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

But you have to admit it works particularly well with Augie.

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by njjohn on Aug 21, 2008 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why is Clark still on our team? I mean, really.

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by njjohn on Aug 21, 2008 11:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Well...

He’s actually played pretty well for us, particularly of late. I think his OPS is like fourth highest. Small sample size and all that jazz.

by Azreous on Aug 21, 2008 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

He has

a .838 OPS since coming back to play for the Dbacks. That’s INCLUDING starting out 4-26 or whatever it was.

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Clubhouse presence

We’re 19-12 since he arrived…

by Jim McLennan on Aug 21, 2008 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow… do you really buy that, Jim?

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by njjohn on Aug 21, 2008 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

It did seem

like the team needed a leader. But I’m very biased.

"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson

by Scrbl on Aug 21, 2008 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why?

Are you Tony Clark?

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

No

but I have a deep unreasoning loathing of Bob Melvin.

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by Scrbl on Aug 21, 2008 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Then you should love Tony, because BoMel has a deep unreasonable love of TC.

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by njjohn on Aug 21, 2008 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

TC's the coach

that BoMel wishes he could be.

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by Scrbl on Aug 21, 2008 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey, I won’t argue that. I’ve always said I’d love to have TC on board as a coach.

"There are only two seasons: winter and baseball"
-- Bill Veeck

by njjohn on Aug 21, 2008 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Me too

sometimes I’ve wished they didn’t have to take up a roster spot to have him coach. Not lately though

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by Scrbl on Aug 21, 2008 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Something

Certainly turned this team around at the All-Star break: our OPS is 62 points better since then. Obviously, Dunn’s arrival is part of it, but if you have other possibilities, I’m open to them!

by Jim McLennan on Aug 21, 2008 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Elven magic?

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by kishi on Aug 21, 2008 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Augie

made another great play??

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d say Dunn + a red hot Webb and RJ accounts for most of it. Throw in Rauch and increased production from Drew and others and you’ve about got all of it.

"There are only two seasons: winter and baseball"
-- Bill Veeck

by njjohn on Aug 21, 2008 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Webb, RJ and Rauch

don’t explain a rise in OPS, though.

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was explaining the win total… I’d say the rise in OPS just has to do with young hitters finding their form. The whole league has a better OPS in the second half…and young players particularly so.

"There are only two seasons: winter and baseball"
-- Bill Veeck

by njjohn on Aug 21, 2008 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Didn't

this exact same thing happen last year?

Franchise trade secret?

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

I mentioned it at our moments of deepest despair before the ASG

We will meet in Red 3 at the hour of scampering.

by hotclaws on Aug 21, 2008 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

full count

are you suggesting coconuts migrate?

by utahdbacksfan on Aug 21, 2008 11:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Strangest thing I've read at Gaslamp Ball, August 21st Edition:

From this post: So this list isn’t really that interesting. In my opinon not even Teixeria is as good as Agon, and with his asking price aroung $20-25M its not even a consideration.

Seriously? You really think Adrian Gonzalez is a better pick than Teixeira? I totally understand it if you’re including salary, but that phrasing implies otherwise. Weird.

Am I avoiding the subject, or am I doing philosophy?

by kishi on Aug 21, 2008 11:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Nothing like a little homerism to sway things.

But honestly, the way Gonzalez was going at the beginning of the year that statement isn’t crazy… lately, though… not so much. Gonzalez is a much inferior defender… but he’s almost Teixeira’s equal with the stick, and will probably surpass him soon since he’s a few years younger.

"There are only two seasons: winter and baseball"
-- Bill Veeck

by njjohn on Aug 21, 2008 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

It kind of seems as if we were saying “In my opinion, not even Dunn is as good as CoJack.”

Am I avoiding the subject, or am I doing philosophy?

by kishi on Aug 21, 2008 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, AdGon WAS their only ASG rep.

Maybe they let it go to their head?

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Holy crap....

in that frozen replay of Augie’s soco, after he threw the ball, he had some killer instinct look on his face…. like he just knocked out his opponent in a boxing ring.

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 11:28 PM EDT reply actions  

A baserunner? GASP!!!!

"There are only two seasons: winter and baseball"
-- Bill Veeck

by njjohn on Aug 21, 2008 11:28 PM EDT reply actions  

no frickin kidding

this webb guy sucks

i demand that davis pitch every day

are you suggesting coconuts migrate?

by utahdbacksfan on Aug 21, 2008 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

How freaking much are we paying this guy??

Trade him!!

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

2 pitches 2 outs

and now he can’t find the strike zone. Get this 3rd out!

by TwinnerA on Aug 21, 2008 11:29 PM EDT reply actions  

There we go.

Good play by Webb to get out of the inning.

by Azreous on Aug 21, 2008 11:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Hello all

I feel like crap. But I thought I’d drop in for a bit.

Freedom is nothing but a chance to be better. -Albert Camus

by C. Wesley Baier on Aug 21, 2008 11:32 PM EDT reply actions  

I was in a fight yesterday.

Freedom is nothing but a chance to be better. -Albert Camus

by C. Wesley Baier on Aug 21, 2008 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh.

You have that shiner we talked about?

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thankfully I don't

Freedom is nothing but a chance to be better. -Albert Camus

by C. Wesley Baier on Aug 21, 2008 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well,

that woulda been hardcore for SPF at least. You talked to your bro?

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have a brother?

I don’t plan on talking to him any time soon after what went down.

Freedom is nothing but a chance to be better. -Albert Camus

by C. Wesley Baier on Aug 21, 2008 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I gotcha.

Your fellow Snakepitters are your brothers now.

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oooh… oh no. :( I hope the other guy feels worse….

by snakecharmer on Aug 21, 2008 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

A Fight?

On purpose?

It's like living with a six-year old.

by 4 Corners Fan on Aug 21, 2008 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

was it at least

vs a dodgers fan?

are you suggesting coconuts migrate?

by utahdbacksfan on Aug 21, 2008 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Glad you’re around.

It's like living with a six-year old.

by 4 Corners Fan on Aug 21, 2008 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

get well soon

We will meet in Red 3 at the hour of scampering.

by hotclaws on Aug 21, 2008 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sup?

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

That sure would.

Freedom is nothing but a chance to be better. -Albert Camus

by C. Wesley Baier on Aug 21, 2008 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

wow those extra

12 pitches were quite unnecessary

Proud supporter of Randy going for 300, even next year.

by JustAJ on Aug 21, 2008 11:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah.

Certainly puts the kibosh on the shutout.

Bring him back for the eighth?

by Azreous on Aug 21, 2008 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

ahh

maybe one more, just to save the bullpen for the weekend.

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by JustAJ on Aug 21, 2008 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

100 pitches even through 7. Webb should be throttled in the dugout. It only took him 85 to get through 8 last game. Only one response (in the words of Skins): DFA.

"There are only two seasons: winter and baseball"
-- Bill Veeck

by njjohn on Aug 21, 2008 11:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Jebus.....

DFA!! HE SUCKS!!!

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

webb at 100 pitches

pitcher’s spot next

ph? y/n

are you suggesting coconuts migrate?

by utahdbacksfan on Aug 21, 2008 11:33 PM EDT reply actions  

guess not

are you suggesting coconuts migrate?

by utahdbacksfan on Aug 21, 2008 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn’t.

"There are only two seasons: winter and baseball"
-- Bill Veeck

by njjohn on Aug 21, 2008 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

And Webb's ERA, at 2.74

Cruises past Santana (2.75) to take third in the NL. One more scoreless inning would take him past Volquez (2.73), but he is at 100 pitches…

by Jim McLennan on Aug 21, 2008 11:33 PM EDT reply actions  

And.... again,

Instead of Sally, Webb could have done that…

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 11:35 PM EDT reply actions  

bad decision BoMel

"There are only two seasons: winter and baseball"
-- Bill Veeck

by njjohn on Aug 21, 2008 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Melvin understands

it’s not about the game – it’s about the season. Webb’s not only this game’s most valuable player, but the team’s most valuable, indeed irreplaceable resource going forward – and he was losing his mechanics last inning.

A manager who treats every game like the seventh game of the World Series will likely never get there :-)

by Diamondhacks on Aug 21, 2008 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

How exactly was he losing his mechanics???

"There are only two seasons: winter and baseball"
-- Bill Veeck

by njjohn on Aug 21, 2008 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well,

it did seem like the ball was sailing on him a little more.

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

if you say so… if Melvin pulled Webb b/c of his mechanics, then I have no beef with it. I doubt that was the case, though.

"There are only two seasons: winter and baseball"
-- Bill Veeck

by njjohn on Aug 21, 2008 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe we define mechanics differently

but as skins alluded to, in the seventh Brandon uncharacteristically walked the #8 hitter, then went 2-0 on Morrow, before Snyder got up to have a talk. This all with a very hot Jody Gerut on deck, and not at all similar to the earlier walk to Agon, an obvious pitch around. It’s true nobody was hitting him hard, but he was missing the zone rather badly, unintentionally, and I took that as a sign he was tiring.

by Diamondhacks on Aug 22, 2008 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

But missing the strike zone can be attributed to a number of different things: a lapse in concentration, over pitching, or poor mechanics. Unless BoMel or the pitching coach actually notices something mechanically wrong with Webby’s delivery, I see no reason to assume it’s the latter.

"There are only two seasons: winter and baseball"
-- Bill Veeck

by njjohn on Aug 22, 2008 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

In the postgame

Melvin just confirmed he took Webby out cuz “he was tiring a little bit”. That’s all I really meant by mechanics – not that he was injured or forgot how to pitch, but just that he was tired, lost his arm angle or whatever.

When you’re Brandon Webb and six or seven pitches dont go where you want, you can call it whatever you want. I call it mechanics.

by Diamondhacks on Aug 22, 2008 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

fair enough.

"There are only two seasons: winter and baseball"
-- Bill Veeck

by njjohn on Aug 22, 2008 8:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nah. He was MOTY last year.

Resign him! FOR ONE HUNDRED MEELION DOLLARS!!

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh. Good point.

DFA Eric Byrnes.

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

trade him for clark

are you suggesting coconuts migrate?

by utahdbacksfan on Aug 21, 2008 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Trade him for candy corn.

"There are only two seasons: winter and baseball"
-- Bill Veeck

by njjohn on Aug 21, 2008 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

What about

Emoticorn?

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, no… that is much tooo precious for Melvin.

"There are only two seasons: winter and baseball"
-- Bill Veeck

by njjohn on Aug 21, 2008 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

a little more CY magic?

"There are only two seasons: winter and baseball"
-- Bill Veeck

by njjohn on Aug 21, 2008 11:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Not right now

Looks like that’s an ’08 out there.

Am I avoiding the subject, or am I doing philosophy?

by kishi on Aug 21, 2008 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

CY is looking a bit more patient these days. It’s good to see.

"There are only two seasons: winter and baseball"
-- Bill Veeck

by njjohn on Aug 21, 2008 11:38 PM EDT reply actions  

oops. there he goes.

"There are only two seasons: winter and baseball"
-- Bill Veeck

by njjohn on Aug 21, 2008 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Whoops,

there it is!

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

There we go

Back to being nervous about our bullpen again.

Am I avoiding the subject, or am I doing philosophy?

by kishi on Aug 21, 2008 11:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Alright Tony… keep that door bolted shut.

"There are only two seasons: winter and baseball"
-- Bill Veeck

by njjohn on Aug 21, 2008 11:40 PM EDT reply actions  

I have one small gripe

so Webb who hasn’t thrown 100 pitches in a good while is taken out to save his arm, but Haren on a night where the bullpen is rested is thrown out for another inning when at 103 pitches. That irks me bad

Proud supporter of Randy going for 300, even next year.

by JustAJ on Aug 21, 2008 11:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Agree with that.

"There are only two seasons: winter and baseball"
-- Bill Veeck

by njjohn on Aug 21, 2008 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

It IS kinda weird....

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

And it is Haren who was signed to an extension too.. One would think that a manager would try to protect the team’s investement.

by singaporedbacksfan on Aug 21, 2008 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hmm

Now I’m imaging mafia-style contract negotiations.

“Nice pitcher you got here. Shame if something were to happen to him, no?”

Am I avoiding the subject, or am I doing philosophy?

by kishi on Aug 21, 2008 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

They're

going to make Webby an offer he can’t refuse?

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m sure we’ll see Brandon tonight. It’s a big night for him… if he screws it up tonight it my by Rauch time in the 9th from here on out.

"There are only two seasons: winter and baseball"
-- Bill Veeck

by njjohn on Aug 21, 2008 11:41 PM EDT reply actions  

TC… thank you.

"There are only two seasons: winter and baseball"
-- Bill Veeck

by njjohn on Aug 21, 2008 11:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Thanks, Jim

I was about to do it myself.

by snakecharmer on Aug 21, 2008 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Beat me to it.

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

seanprh, I refer you to this shirt.

Am I avoiding the subject, or am I doing philosophy?

by kishi on Aug 21, 2008 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

That was NOT cool.

Freedom is nothing but a chance to be better. -Albert Camus

by C. Wesley Baier on Aug 21, 2008 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

CoJack!

Nice double to lead off.

Wonder if Dunn’ll see walk #3.

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by kishi on Aug 21, 2008 11:49 PM EDT reply actions  

With a base open?

All signs point to “yes”.

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

CoJack always seems to get that hit at that time. Love him. He’s better than Teixeira!!!! [smirk].

"There are only two seasons: winter and baseball"
-- Bill Veeck

by njjohn on Aug 21, 2008 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's so clutch!

Even clutchier than Jeter!!

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s the clutchiest clutcher.

"There are only two seasons: winter and baseball"
-- Bill Veeck

by njjohn on Aug 21, 2008 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

CoJack should talk to Webb’s mechanics about his clutch.

Am I avoiding the subject, or am I doing philosophy?

by kishi on Aug 21, 2008 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

badoomboom!

"There are only two seasons: winter and baseball"
-- Bill Veeck

by njjohn on Aug 21, 2008 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wah wah wah

waaaaaaaahhh….

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Clark on the other hand…. not so much.

"There are only two seasons: winter and baseball"
-- Bill Veeck

by njjohn on Aug 21, 2008 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

TOTALLY unclutch.

Tony “Unclutch” Clark.

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Unlike that Adam Dunn.

SOO unclutch. Couldn’t get a 2 out RBI single if his life depending on it. Would probably walk instead. UGH!!

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

good call kishi

"There are only two seasons: winter and baseball"
-- Bill Veeck

by njjohn on Aug 21, 2008 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

My powers of prophecy are impressive

For my next prediction, I’m thinking we’ll see a sunrise tomorrow morning in, oh, roughly an easterly direction.

Am I avoiding the subject, or am I doing philosophy?

by kishi on Aug 21, 2008 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

tell us more… tell us more….

"There are only two seasons: winter and baseball"
-- Bill Veeck

by njjohn on Aug 21, 2008 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Things become foggier the farther I peer into the future...

But I strongly suspect that we will have a different president in office twelve months from now…

Am I avoiding the subject, or am I doing philosophy?

by kishi on Aug 21, 2008 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh...

but see, you never know. Bush HAS made it a point of his presidency to expand the reach of executive power…

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

full count to dunn

are you suggesting coconuts migrate?

by utahdbacksfan on Aug 21, 2008 11:51 PM EDT reply actions  

what? serious?

are you suggesting coconuts migrate?

by utahdbacksfan on Aug 21, 2008 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wok?

What??

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

the more dunn does this the more i wonder if we might be able to possibly afford him next year. he’s a great asset…

"There are only two seasons: winter and baseball"
-- Bill Veeck

by njjohn on Aug 21, 2008 11:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Ugh.

The wave.

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 11:54 PM EDT reply actions  

c’mon Snyder

We will meet in Red 3 at the hour of scampering.

by hotclaws on Aug 21, 2008 11:56 PM EDT reply actions  

I can haz clutch?

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes

are you suggesting coconuts migrate?

by utahdbacksfan on Aug 21, 2008 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Snyder eats clutch for dinner. Fried with honey mustard sauce.

"There are only two seasons: winter and baseball"
-- Bill Veeck

by njjohn on Aug 21, 2008 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow.

How in the world was that 1-1 pitch a strike?

by Azreous on Aug 21, 2008 11:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Snyder!

4-0!

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by kishi on Aug 21, 2008 11:58 PM EDT reply actions  

SNYDES!!

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 11:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Air mail!!

RBI, ball to the backstop, everyone moves up!

by snakecharmer on Aug 21, 2008 11:59 PM EDT reply actions  

That’s what you get for putting an IF in the OF. Oh wait… that’s 2/3 of our OF.

"There are only two seasons: winter and baseball"
-- Bill Veeck

by njjohn on Aug 22, 2008 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

TOTALLY clutch.

Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.

by DbacksSkins on Aug 21, 2008 11:59 PM EDT reply actions  

100.

"There are only two seasons: winter and baseball"
-- Bill Veeck

by njjohn on Aug 22, 2008 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

100

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 22, 2008 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wait a second --

Brett Tomko is teh suck? What??

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 22, 2008 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

You know what?

Adam Dunn is homer-less today. That dude is lame.

Am I avoiding the subject, or am I doing philosophy?

by kishi on Aug 22, 2008 12:01 AM EDT reply actions  

DFA!!

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 22, 2008 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

What a bum he is. And he totally doesn’t seem to enjoy the game at all.

It's like living with a six-year old.

by 4 Corners Fan on Aug 22, 2008 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

I remember when Charlie Hustle….

"There are only two seasons: winter and baseball"
-- Bill Veeck

by njjohn on Aug 22, 2008 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

I will kindly direct you

Here. (opens in new window)

Freedom is nothing but a chance to be better. -Albert Camus

by C. Wesley Baier on Aug 22, 2008 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

That’s fabulous.

"There are only two seasons: winter and baseball"
-- Bill Veeck

by njjohn on Aug 22, 2008 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Heh....

I remember that one.

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 22, 2008 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

AND he’s 0-1. That’s a ZERO percent average. LAME-O.

"There are only two seasons: winter and baseball"
-- Bill Veeck

by njjohn on Aug 22, 2008 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

Loser can’t even get a hit. Pshaw.

Am I avoiding the subject, or am I doing philosophy?

by kishi on Aug 22, 2008 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

i know

he didnt even bother running on any of those 3 walks

slacker he doesnt care about baseball

are you suggesting coconuts migrate?

by utahdbacksfan on Aug 22, 2008 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Why did we even trade for him?

It's like living with a six-year old.

by 4 Corners Fan on Aug 22, 2008 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

because josh byrnes

is a flaming retard

are you suggesting coconuts migrate?

by utahdbacksfan on Aug 22, 2008 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

If only

we had Ned Colletti.

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 22, 2008 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

i know

HE would have gotten us ramirez

are you suggesting coconuts migrate?

by utahdbacksfan on Aug 22, 2008 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

And Gerg Maddox?

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 22, 2008 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think you'll find

We had Unbridled Pessimism Night three months ago…

by Jim McLennan on Aug 22, 2008 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Three months?

Seriously? I thought that was about three weeks ago.

Though, Mrew’s Birthday was about two-and-a-half weeks ago, so my sense of time is obviously off right now.

Am I avoiding the subject, or am I doing philosophy?

by kishi on Aug 22, 2008 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nope

It was June, during the Boston series.

by Jim McLennan on Aug 22, 2008 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Uh oh.

Not a save situation for Lyon anymore.

by Azreous on Aug 22, 2008 12:02 AM EDT reply actions  

In the non-save sitch the non-save sitch the Lyon stinks tonight. In the non-save sitch the non-save sitch the Lyon stinks tonight. WA-OOOOO OOOOOOOO EEEEE UUM UMMBAWAY.

"There are only two seasons: winter and baseball"
-- Bill Veeck

by njjohn on Aug 22, 2008 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

A wee mo wack a wee mo wack.

by Azreous on Aug 22, 2008 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Time to hit the panic button!

“When in deadly danger, When beset by doubt, Run in little circles, Wave your arms and shout.”

by singaporedbacksfan on Aug 22, 2008 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

This might be an opportune time to point out

that I love this blog. :-P

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 22, 2008 12:05 AM EDT reply actions  

if you love it so much

then why don’t you marry it

Proud supporter of Randy going for 300, even next year.

by JustAJ on Aug 22, 2008 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Obviously

Because he lacks the necessary sway with the California courts to legalize it.

Am I avoiding the subject, or am I doing philosophy?

by kishi on Aug 22, 2008 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Eh....

didn’t work out so well last time.

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 22, 2008 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

dont look now

but lyon got an out

are you suggesting coconuts migrate?

by utahdbacksfan on Aug 22, 2008 12:07 AM EDT reply actions  

That's two!

Am I avoiding the subject, or am I doing philosophy?

by kishi on Aug 22, 2008 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

cross X X fingers

We will meet in Red 3 at the hour of scampering.

by hotclaws on Aug 22, 2008 12:07 AM EDT reply actions  

Augie with another soco.

::yawn::

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 22, 2008 12:07 AM EDT reply actions  

Um.....

Ball 2? Really??

Hasn’t this ump actually had a pretty large K zone tonight?

Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.

by DbacksSkins on Aug 22, 2008 12:09 AM EDT reply actions  

poo:-(

We will meet in Red 3 at the hour of scampering.

by hotclaws on Aug 22, 2008 12:10 AM EDT reply actions  

Can someone

remind Lyon that he can’t pitch himself INTO a save situation?

"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson

by Scrbl on Aug 22, 2008 12:10 AM EDT reply actions  

Lyon

does not = clutch.

Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.

by DbacksSkins on Aug 22, 2008 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not lately

He’s joined the “what happened to you, mister?” club

"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson

by Scrbl on Aug 22, 2008 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

lol

defensive indifference

always seems kinda funny to me

are you suggesting coconuts migrate?

by utahdbacksfan on Aug 22, 2008 12:12 AM EDT reply actions  

I’ve never understood that. Why not try to gun the guy down. Even though the run doesn’t matter, the out certainly does.

"There are only two seasons: winter and baseball"
-- Bill Veeck

by njjohn on Aug 22, 2008 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Catching him stealing

would have ended this game….

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 22, 2008 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's right

In order to throw the runner out, one opens up the infield to the batter (and subsequent batters, potentially), the only ones who can actually beat you. It’s not just the first baseman, but also the MI covering the bag.

The other benefit to holding the runner is to maintain a forceout situation, which mitigates the above somewhat, but I think the conventional wisdom is that challenging the runner opens one up to a bigger inning.

by Diamondhacks on Aug 22, 2008 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

To back this up

BABIP this year goes up by ten points when there’s a man on first, compared to bases empty – presumably largely because the first baseman is on the bag, so loses a slice of coverage on balls hit between him and the second baseman.

by Jim McLennan on Aug 22, 2008 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

It could be that

I also wonder if balls tend to be hit harder anyway with a runner on base; one, because the pitcher theoretically loses a bit from the stretch, and two, because a runner on (over time and huge sample sizes) may presuppose intrinsically less effective pitching than that faced by batters with the bags empty.

by Diamondhacks on Aug 22, 2008 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks Jim and Diamond. Interesting discussion. A ten point bump in BABIP isn’t monumental, and I’d venture to guess that one could narrow down the batters it would make a difference against. Based on a batter’s GB/FB ratio and where he hits the ball when he hits it on the ground (right side/left side), I might very selectively employ the strategy of conceding the base in late inning situations. However, it would be very selective: only against hitters who hit their fair share of balls on the ground near the 1B.

"There are only two seasons: winter and baseball"
-- Bill Veeck

by njjohn on Aug 22, 2008 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Makes sense to me

The other bit of conventional wisdom I forgot to mention is the whole thing about a pitcher dividing his concentration between hitter and baserunner. I have no idea how to measure that, but we hear it all the time and I’d be surprised if there wasnt an element of truth to it.

That said, I tend to agree with you. There probably are lopsided, late inning situations where one’s win expectancy actually rises by attending to the runner(s). Tons of variables to consider though, and I’m glad I’m not the one to sort it all out.

And thx for keeping this on a first name basis ;-)

by Diamondhacks on Aug 22, 2008 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good point about the concentration… yet another variable…

"There are only two seasons: winter and baseball"
-- Bill Veeck

by njjohn on Aug 22, 2008 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Another ninth inning run allowed by our bullpen

Seriously, guys, knock this off.

Am I avoiding the subject, or am I doing philosophy?

by kishi on Aug 22, 2008 12:12 AM EDT reply actions  

Argh.

There goes the shutout.

Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.

by DbacksSkins on Aug 22, 2008 12:12 AM EDT reply actions  

Ball game!

Webby goes to 19-4! And of almost even greater importance, we stay 2 ahead of L.A.!

by TwinnerA on Aug 22, 2008 12:12 AM EDT reply actions  

Done!

19 wins for Webb!

Am I avoiding the subject, or am I doing philosophy?

by kishi on Aug 22, 2008 12:12 AM EDT reply actions  

Whew!

Nice work D-Backs.

"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson

by Scrbl on Aug 22, 2008 12:13 AM EDT reply actions  

Alright.

Teh sweep!!

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 22, 2008 12:13 AM EDT reply actions  

Beauty, eh?

"There are only two seasons: winter and baseball"
-- Bill Veeck

by njjohn on Aug 22, 2008 12:13 AM EDT reply actions  

hooray for the mckenzie brothers

always relevant

are you suggesting coconuts migrate?

by utahdbacksfan on Aug 22, 2008 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

7 games over 500, too.

"There are only two seasons: winter and baseball"
-- Bill Veeck

by njjohn on Aug 22, 2008 12:13 AM EDT reply actions  

I feel better now

Freedom is nothing but a chance to be better. -Albert Camus

by C. Wesley Baier on Aug 22, 2008 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well it was hard work, making you happy, I tell ya! :P

by snakecharmer on Aug 22, 2008 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

sweep

We will meet in Red 3 at the hour of scampering.

by hotclaws on Aug 22, 2008 12:14 AM EDT reply actions  

It seems weird that we haven’t played Saint Louis yet this year.

Am I avoiding the subject, or am I doing philosophy?

by kishi on Aug 22, 2008 12:17 AM EDT reply actions  

And after this weekend, we'll have played the Marlins

like 45 times.

Or so it seems.

Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.

by DbacksSkins on Aug 22, 2008 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Too true.

Am I avoiding the subject, or am I doing philosophy?

by kishi on Aug 22, 2008 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

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