Arizona Diamondbacks @ Colorado Rockies GameThread, Aug 13, 2008 9:05 PM EDT

Gameday Thread, #120: 8/13 vs. Rockies

by Jim McLennan on Aug 13, 2008 7:51 PM EDT

Arizona Diamondbacks @ Colorado Rockies

Doug Davis
LHP, 4-7, 4.75

Jeff Francis
LHP, 3-8, 5.81

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Battle of the sucky left-handers tonight, with all the making of a Coors slugfest. Davis and Francis have combined for the following line over their past couple of starts:
17.1 IP, 34 H, 8 BB, 8 K, 22 R, 21 ER, 10.90 ERA, 0-3 record.
This is particularly ironic for Davis, who came closer to a perfect game in his final start of July, than any Diamondbacks pitcher since the Big Unit completed his in 2004. His last couple of outings, however: yuck.

Be nice if he got back in the right direction tonight, and at least in Francis, we're facing someone who has been having his share of problems. He actually got a Cy Young vote last year: this season, he has only three wins, tied for the least in the majors among pitchers with eighteen or more starts.And we have Adam Dunn with his .333/.600/.667 line for Arizona since he came to us. Tonight could well be the night he goes yard; though if not, the good news is, the Rockies ace Aaron Cook has been scratched from tomorrow's start, and we'll face Glendon Rusch instead. With Dan Haren going there for Arizona, a win tonight would seem to give us a good chance of the sweep.

We should get Doug Slaten back into the bullpen tonight, after his trip onto the DL with a knee strain. They wanted to give him one last rehab appearance in Tucson, and since he struck out the side Monday, he's deemed ready. Buckner or Rosales will likely be the losers. Justin Upton also appeared for the Sidewinders in the same game, and went 2-for-5. Still, I suspect there'll be no desperate hurry to get him back up to the parent club any more.

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Right.

So we open the old thread for comments after 10 minutes, and talk about off-topic stuff throughout.

No, no. You stay in the room and make sure ‘e doesn’t leave.

And you’ll come and get him.

Right.

We don’t need to do anything apart from just stop him from entering the room.

No, no. Leaving the room.

Right.

by Azreous on Aug 13, 2008 8:04 PM EDT 0 recs

Did the first Gameday Thread fall over into a swamp?

Am I avoiding the subject, or am I doing philosophy?

by kishi on Aug 13, 2008 8:10 PM EDT up 0 recs

Well,

too many of ours posts lately are about huge…........ tracts of logic.

Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.

by DbacksSkins on Aug 13, 2008 8:15 PM EDT up 0 recs

*our

agh

Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.

by DbacksSkins on Aug 13, 2008 8:22 PM EDT up 0 recs

Is that the Castle of Aaargh?

Am I avoiding the subject, or am I doing philosophy?

by kishi on Aug 13, 2008 8:53 PM EDT up 0 recs

Dodging Cook is fortuitous.

If only we could have managed to see Livan Hernandez in this series. Although I have this nagging feeling he would have pitched some kind of 9 IP, 11 H, 5 BB, 2 ER type of game against us.

by Azreous on Aug 13, 2008 8:06 PM EDT 0 recs

Today’s line up:

S. Drew ss .279
C. Young cf .234
C. Jackson lf .310
A. Dunn rf .333 /.600 /.667 /1.267
M. Reynolds 3b .245
C. Tracy 1b .286
C. Snyder c .244
A. Ojeda 2b .259
D. Davis p .120

CY moves up to #2 and Augie’s down to the 8 hole. 3 LHBs against the lefty today.

by foulpole on Aug 13, 2008 8:54 PM EDT 0 recs

Those other guys:

C. Barmes 2b .300
W. Taveras cf .248
M. Holliday lf .347
C. Iannetta c .261
J. Baker 1b .268
B. Hawpe rf .283
T. Tulowitzki ss .237
I. Stewart 3b .289
J. Francis p .125

by foulpole on Aug 13, 2008 8:55 PM EDT 0 recs

Atkins still out with strep?

Ick.

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by kishi on Aug 13, 2008 9:04 PM EDT up 0 recs

Geena is bringing on the Sedona Red mojo for the Davis start.

by foulpole on Aug 13, 2008 9:00 PM EDT 0 recs

You're banned from posting

that picture here.

Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.

by DbacksSkins on Aug 13, 2008 9:40 PM EDT up 0 recs

I don't think

it’s ever worked, actually.

Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.

by DbacksSkins on Aug 13, 2008 9:45 PM EDT up 0 recs

Lets Go

Lets keep it going

by J Up on Aug 13, 2008 9:02 PM EDT 0 recs

I always wondered

Somewhere, in the halls of Unnecessary Baseball Statistics, there has to be someone who’s broken down the win-loss records of pitchers depending on if their first pitch was a ball or a strike, or if the lead-off batter reached in the first inning. I was kind of curious what that would look like.

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by kishi on Aug 13, 2008 9:07 PM EDT 0 recs

Young and Drew down quickly to start

Start getting the hits, guys…

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by kishi on Aug 13, 2008 9:08 PM EDT 0 recs

Or not

Offense goes down 1-2-3.

Well, let’s see which Doug Davis is going to show up today.

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by kishi on Aug 13, 2008 9:10 PM EDT 0 recs

Icky DDD

by TwinnerA on Aug 13, 2008 9:12 PM EDT up 0 recs

DD not DDD

by TwinnerA on Aug 13, 2008 9:13 PM EDT up 0 recs

1 2 3 Inning

I still don’t think Young is suitable for the 2 hole. I have no idea why Melvin constantly rotates him between the 1, 2, 6, and 7 spots in the order, when he projects more as a 4 or 5 hitter. Even with his improved walk rate, a sub-.300 OBP shouldn’t be batting that high in the order.

by LucaMaz3 on Aug 13, 2008 9:12 PM EDT 0 recs

Amen

Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.

by DbacksSkins on Aug 13, 2008 9:40 PM EDT up 0 recs

Where did that 3-0 miss?

by foulpole on Aug 13, 2008 9:12 PM EDT 0 recs

I was wondering that too

by LucaMaz3 on Aug 13, 2008 9:13 PM EDT up 0 recs

Granted,

if you run the count to 3-0, you can’t REALLY complain.

Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.

by DbacksSkins on Aug 13, 2008 9:40 PM EDT up 0 recs

4 pitch walk to start off the first

Come on, Doug. Get it going.

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by kishi on Aug 13, 2008 9:12 PM EDT 0 recs

And a bunt single

Two on, no outs for the Rockies.

Triple play?

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by kishi on Aug 13, 2008 9:13 PM EDT 0 recs

Bunt single ouch!

by foulpole on Aug 13, 2008 9:14 PM EDT 0 recs

I hate Willy Taveras. Maybe even more than Anime Khalil Greene.

by LucaMaz3 on Aug 13, 2008 9:15 PM EDT up 0 recs

1-0

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by kishi on Aug 13, 2008 9:15 PM EDT 0 recs

C’mon DD! Bear down!

by foulpole on Aug 13, 2008 9:15 PM EDT 0 recs

Darnit

Let’s go Davis!

by LucaMaz3 on Aug 13, 2008 9:16 PM EDT 0 recs

2-0

On a botched double play.

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by kishi on Aug 13, 2008 9:17 PM EDT 0 recs

Nice job by Holliday to break up the double play.

by foulpole on Aug 13, 2008 9:18 PM EDT 0 recs

You are nothing if not consistent.

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by kishi on Aug 13, 2008 9:22 PM EDT up 0 recs

+1

Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.

by DbacksSkins on Aug 13, 2008 9:41 PM EDT up 0 recs

No me gusta the first inning. If we get out alive, I’d be delighted.

by LucaMaz3 on Aug 13, 2008 9:18 PM EDT 0 recs

::shoots the Terminator::

Come with me if you want to live.

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by kishi on Aug 13, 2008 9:20 PM EDT up 0 recs

Two things

1. This umpire is very inconsistent, already after 1 inning.
2. If Doug Davis struggles in the 2nd inning, i would like to see a short leash on him… We can’t do what we did last start. Wasn’t that when we came back, but we were in too much of a whole because Davis was left in TOO long?

by ZonaBacks10 on Aug 13, 2008 9:21 PM EDT 0 recs

True

That’s why I miss Edgar Gonzalez/Yusmeiro Petit out of long relief. They could come in the game in the 3rd inning and throw 5 one-run innings.

by LucaMaz3 on Aug 13, 2008 9:23 PM EDT up 0 recs

Well

we are skipping Petit’s spot in the rotation aren’t we? he could be available tonight, if that is still true

by ZonaBacks10 on Aug 13, 2008 9:24 PM EDT up 0 recs

True

I wonder if they might have him warm up in the pen.

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by kishi on Aug 13, 2008 9:25 PM EDT up 0 recs

If Davis continues to struggle

I really hope so. We can’t keep having Davis out there hoping he will get through, when he puts us in more of a jam. Pick it up Davis.

by ZonaBacks10 on Aug 13, 2008 9:26 PM EDT up 0 recs

Stupid ESPN says that Webb is pitching both Fri. and Sat. against Houston and doesn’t show Petit scheduled to pitch at all in the next 5 games, so who knows.

by TwinnerA on Aug 13, 2008 9:30 PM EDT up 0 recs

If only.

by Azreous on Aug 13, 2008 9:31 PM EDT up 0 recs

lol

by ZonaBacks10 on Aug 13, 2008 9:31 PM EDT up 0 recs

A rotation of

Webb, Johnson and Haren game after game would be fabulous!

by TwinnerA on Aug 13, 2008 9:34 PM EDT up 0 recs

Old skool!!

Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.

by DbacksSkins on Aug 13, 2008 9:42 PM EDT up 0 recs

ESPN

is aware of the Diamondbacks?

Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.

by DbacksSkins on Aug 13, 2008 9:42 PM EDT up 0 recs

Yeah

It’s the team that’s going to take the field against Manny Ramirez, and some other guys, at the end of the month.

Am I avoiding the subject, or am I doing philosophy?

by kishi on Aug 13, 2008 11:42 PM EDT up 0 recs

Nice K for Davis

We needed that

by LucaMaz3 on Aug 13, 2008 9:21 PM EDT 0 recs

DD looks a little to quick so far.

by foulpole on Aug 13, 2008 9:22 PM EDT 0 recs

He's putting me to sleep

Those Olympics are looking better and better to watch tonight. This game has the makings of some major suckage from DD.

by TwinnerA on Aug 13, 2008 9:22 PM EDT 0 recs

I am always

bored watching Davis pitch. I will never go to a game with him pitching. TOO SLOW!

by ZonaBacks10 on Aug 13, 2008 9:25 PM EDT up 0 recs

I get single game tickets

prior to the season, so I am the mercy of the schedule. So far I’ve seen Haren 5 times, and Webb, EdGon, Johnson and Scherzer once each. No Davis for me this year so far.

by TwinnerA on Aug 13, 2008 9:33 PM EDT up 0 recs

Another walk for Davis

Come on…

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by kishi on Aug 13, 2008 9:22 PM EDT 0 recs

Well, that could have been worse.

by foulpole on Aug 13, 2008 9:23 PM EDT 0 recs

True

but it doesn’t paint a bright future for this game.

by LucaMaz3 on Aug 13, 2008 9:25 PM EDT up 0 recs

It’s early.

by foulpole on Aug 13, 2008 9:25 PM EDT up 0 recs

Thank you, Tulo

Okay, now let’s go out there and score some runs.

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by kishi on Aug 13, 2008 9:24 PM EDT 0 recs

I can't believe Dunn is only 28..

He’s freakin huge.

by ZonaBacks10 on Aug 13, 2008 9:27 PM EDT 0 recs

Huh? Why would his age relate to his size? It’s not like he’s huge and only 12. He’s a grown man. Would you expect him to be larger at, say, age 36 than he is now?

It's like living with a six-year old.

by 4 Corners Fan on Aug 13, 2008 9:31 PM EDT up 0 recs