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Gameday Thread, #119: 8/12 vs. Rockies

Arizona Diamondbacks @ Colorado Rockies


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Randy Johnson
LHP, 9-8, 4.24

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Ubaldo Jimenez
RHP, 8-10, 3.86

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    The night has been unruly: where we lay,
    Our chimneys were blown down; and, as they say,
    Lamentings heard i' the air; strange screams of death,
    And prophesying with accents terrible
    Of dire combustion and confused events
    New hatch'd to the woeful time: the obscure bird
    Clamour'd the livelong night: some say, the earth
    Was feverous and did shake.
        (Macbeth, 2.3.69-76)

It's been an ominous day, though I'm not sure quite what it portends. I was just emptying the spam folder on my Gmail account, and the top message - or, at least, the top one in English - had the subject line, "Stunning porno Penelope Cruz." I somehow doubt it. Then, we were just linked to by The Big Lead in their daily recap - which opens with...a picture of Penelope Cruz, for no readily apparent reason. And we have Azreous on the recap tonight, since I'll be at IZW: his last appearance was accompanied by Doug Davis's stab at a perfect game. All this, and the debut of Adam Dunn as a Diamondback?

Yes, the stars are aligning, and tonight is shaping up to be special in some way or other, our new slugger getting to start off at NASA's Colorado launch facility. I boldly predict that his first home-run in an Arizona uniform will come sometime between now and Thursday. Be nice if it were tonight. In the first inning. After Drew, Ojeda and Jackson all reach base. While that would certainly be memorable, it might be a bit much to ask, and this being Coors, we should bear in mind the First Law of Frisbeetarianism: Never precede any maneoever with a comment more predictive than 'Watch this!'" On that basis, all I am prepared to say about the opener of our series against Colorado is: "Watch this!"

Thanks to all those who took part in the excellent discussion on Adam Dunn yesterday: deserves a roll-call, including both new faces and friendly visiting fans. NewJackCity, DbacksSkins, unnamedDBacksfan, Scrbl, leemellon, kishi, AngryTick, Lisalisa8, TwinnerA, IndyDBack, Wactivist, TAP, Counsellmember, DiamondbacksWIn, Azreous, snakecharmer, Brendanukkah, njjohn, Andrew, garyho, hotclaws, cesarhernandez, ZonaBacks10, nihil67, foulpole, DBacksArb, Man Mountain, soco, dahlian, AZSEAfan, Wimb, dstorm, justin007000, flipgatey3, Diamondhacks, srdmad, golfmanthee and paqs all chipped in. We had over 1,200 visitors on the site yesterday, and north of 850 already today, the busiest of the past  month - and likely the season.

The consensus, going by the poll, seem to involve Tracy going to third and Reynolds to second, though opinion is fairly evenly split between Dunn playing LF or 1B. To me, it's a question of trying to balance offense and defense. The key question seems to be, what hit would we take moving Reynolds to 2B? That's very difficult to quantify - much more so than the related question, what upgrade at the plate does he provide over Ojeda? I'm reluctant to try it in the heat of a pennant race - though it's something we should consider for next year, as a backup plan for if we can't re-sign Hudson. However, there's a reason Reynolds was moved out of the position in the minors: if we could have kept a second-baseman with a 2006 OPS of 1.034 and 31 HR, I think we'd have done so!

Dodgers won last night, so the gap has narrowed to one game again. I read the following over on Dodger Thoughts and it sounds awfully familiar, to the extent it could be something I've written, at any point since about May. "It just gets tiring to settle for solace in the failings of other NL West teams, rather than being able bulk up with pride or, more importantly, confidence in the remaining fate of your own. It's true that getting to the playoffs with 83 victories is more important than winning 93 and missing out, as will be the case in other divisions... It doesn't mean that the losses don't take a beating on you. Getting flogged each time you think you're about to break free is just a rough way to live."

Finally, I have absolutely no idea what to make of this site. It appears to be a mutated combination of posts, taken from both elsewhere and here ["Lolback of the week" ring any bells?]. But as if run through Babelfish a few times, to remove any degree of coherence. The results, however, sometimes reach an almost poetically surreal level. Witness this sample, presented exactly as it appears on the site. Picks the bones out of this, and see if you can find any omens.

What happens?? Reliability, Conor Jackson, gave us the lead, and a sacrifice fly from Tracy added an insurance run. Jon Rauch pitched a independent eighteen, and Lyon worked around a in park homer to secure his 21st save. Philadelphia Phillies by all the writing on the wall is a top dog. Mission responsible - and He is a free agent. in a President Bush, callously premature, way.

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that site

is seriously screwed up

are you suggesting coconuts migrate?

by utahdbacksfan on Aug 12, 2008 7:10 PM EDT   0 recs

It’s like the illegitimate lovechild of Babelfish and Nostradamus.

Am I avoiding the subject, or am I doing philosophy?

by kishi on Aug 12, 2008 7:23 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Generally, I like Jon Weisman's writing,

However, this little bit irked me some:

Celebrating the 20th anniversary of the 1988 of Kirk Gibson and Orel Hershiser could have worse scripts than an underdog bid for a title.

Forgive me if I don’t consider a title won by a team with an Opening Day payroll of $118+ million (less than 100 grand behind the Cubs) much of an “underdog bid”. More like “an underperforming team finally playing to its potential”.

Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.

by DbacksSkins on Aug 12, 2008 7:44 PM EDT   0 recs

Maybe by “underdog” he meant “under .500”?

Am I avoiding the subject, or am I doing philosophy?

by kishi on Aug 12, 2008 7:46 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Maybe by "underdog"

he meant “shitty, unmotivated, overpaid and poorly managed”?

Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.

by DbacksSkins on Aug 12, 2008 7:52 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Well, they are struggling against their own lack of caring. And aren’t the greatest battles really battles of the heart?

::insert inspirational music here::

Am I avoiding the subject, or am I doing philosophy?

by kishi on Aug 12, 2008 7:53 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I just vomited a little bit in my mouth

when you compared the Dodgers to Rudy.

Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.

by DbacksSkins on Aug 12, 2008 8:20 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Seriously not what I was going for.

Now I feel a little nauseous.

Am I avoiding the subject, or am I doing philosophy?

by kishi on Aug 12, 2008 8:23 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Site good thinks me. If ewe not see to id I say were to.

Where have you gone Mike Fetters?

by NewJackCity on Aug 12, 2008 7:44 PM EDT   0 recs

And

the reward for excellent mimicry goes to….

Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.

by DbacksSkins on Aug 12, 2008 7:51 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Maybe TOO good

Knock off the hippie crap, strap on a helmet, and start shooting. This is baseball, Diamondbacks, I want you to storm that beach like it's Normandy!

by soco on Aug 12, 2008 8:03 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Hmmm....

Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.

by DbacksSkins on Aug 12, 2008 8:13 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

It's like back in the AzPhan days

there was a guy named BiggrUnit7 or something like that, and he disappeared right as AzPhan showed up, and then came back after AzPhan left. I don’t know if they were connected but I mentioned that to him/her as a joke in a thread and then we never saw him again!

Knock off the hippie crap, strap on a helmet, and start shooting. This is baseball, Diamondbacks, I want you to storm that beach like it's Normandy!

by soco on Aug 12, 2008 8:15 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I know,

I remember that. At least now, SBN 2.0 gives mods the opportunity to sniff out that BS when it starts.

Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.

by DbacksSkins on Aug 12, 2008 8:22 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I figured you did

but for the newer members. I don’t even know if they WERE the same guy, but I was just trying to be funny and apparently hit to close to the mark—OKAY DAMN MICROWAVE I’M COMIN STOP BEEPIN

Knock off the hippie crap, strap on a helmet, and start shooting. This is baseball, Diamondbacks, I want you to storm that beach like it's Normandy!

by soco on Aug 12, 2008 8:25 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Thank heavens for the microwave.

Am I avoiding the subject, or am I doing philosophy?

by kishi on Aug 12, 2008 8:26 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

You caught me

I’ve been outed for running the other blog. I lose.

Where have you gone Mike Fetters?

by NewJackCity on Aug 12, 2008 8:53 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I KNEW it!

Knock off the hippie crap, strap on a helmet, and start shooting. This is baseball, Diamondbacks, I want you to storm that beach like it's Normandy!

by soco on Aug 12, 2008 8:56 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

road trip!!!

lets start this road trip off right

by J Up on Aug 12, 2008 7:48 PM EDT   0 recs

But Otter, no!!

My brother only lent me the car for the weekend! If I scratch it, he’s gonna kill me!!

Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.

by DbacksSkins on Aug 12, 2008 7:50 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I can't wait for tonight's game.

Dear Josh Byrnes: Please DFA Chris Burke. He can't hit, and probably never will.

by Zephon on Aug 12, 2008 7:49 PM EDT   0 recs

Woooh!

Apparently they’ve got the scripts for the third season of The IT Crowd. This day is looking up. Diamondbacks, it’s up to you to keep improving it.

Am I avoiding the subject, or am I doing philosophy?

by kishi on Aug 12, 2008 7:54 PM EDT   0 recs

Uh oh.

Some Arizona bloggers already DON’T like Adam Dunn: http://azsportshub.com/2008/08/11/they-gone-and-dunn-it/

I suppose that these are the same kinds of people who drove him out of Cincy. I should also note that this fellow apparently has a huge stiffy for Eric Byrnes.

Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.

by DbacksSkins on Aug 12, 2008 8:02 PM EDT   0 recs

Well

what the hell do they know?

Knock off the hippie crap, strap on a helmet, and start shooting. This is baseball, Diamondbacks, I want you to storm that beach like it's Normandy!

by soco on Aug 12, 2008 8:04 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I mean

I got a line or two in and it told me everything about the level of discourse I should expect. Do they not realize that this deal was in the works before Hudson went down, and that of course an outfielder isn’t replacing an infielder?

Knock off the hippie crap, strap on a helmet, and start shooting. This is baseball, Diamondbacks, I want you to storm that beach like it's Normandy!

by soco on Aug 12, 2008 8:05 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I took exception to that too,

but it might not be worth the trouble to explain it to those who don’t pay attention anyway.

Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.

by DbacksSkins on Aug 12, 2008 8:23 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Is that guy really complaining about Mickey Mantle?

Am I avoiding the subject, or am I doing philosophy?

by kishi on Aug 12, 2008 8:05 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

And comparing Dunn and Griffey’s career K/HR rates, as though both were in identical phases of their careers?

Am I avoiding the subject, or am I doing philosophy?

by kishi on Aug 12, 2008 8:07 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

And talking about the Diamondbacks running game, as thought Byrnes was our only threat, and he hasn’t watched the team play for the past two weeks?

Am I avoiding the subject, or am I doing philosophy?

by kishi on Aug 12, 2008 8:08 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

He's not even our

top running back anymore, and besides, we’re switching into a spread set.

Knock off the hippie crap, strap on a helmet, and start shooting. This is baseball, Diamondbacks, I want you to storm that beach like it's Normandy!

by soco on Aug 12, 2008 8:09 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

soco's keys to the game

1) Wing Night, where I will no doubt be given terrible service
2) Come home to watch the end of the game
3) Dessert?

Knock off the hippie crap, strap on a helmet, and start shooting. This is baseball, Diamondbacks, I want you to storm that beach like it's Normandy!

by soco on Aug 12, 2008 8:06 PM EDT   0 recs

Just the place Mrs. Kishi recommended for dinner…

Am I avoiding the subject, or am I doing philosophy?

by kishi on Aug 12, 2008 10:21 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I prefer Thursdays, myself.

35 cent wings are nice, but 50 cent boneless wings are fantastic.

by Azreous on Aug 12, 2008 10:22 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I would say that I prefer Hooters,

but not only is it not true, but Hooters seems so 90s.

Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.

by DbacksSkins on Aug 12, 2008 10:23 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I like the 50 cent leg nights, that was a weekly event to look forward to when I was poor living in Flagstaff.

Am I avoiding the subject, or am I doing philosophy?

by kishi on Aug 12, 2008 10:24 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Hi ppl ^^

ok my dbacks… let’s get it dunn… =X

Wikipedia is accurate. (citation needed)

by Muu on Aug 12, 2008 8:12 PM EDT   0 recs

Git 'er Dunn!!

Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.

by DbacksSkins on Aug 12, 2008 8:14 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Oh man

I don’t know if I like this deal if I have to sit through a million “git-r-dun” jokes.

Knock off the hippie crap, strap on a helmet, and start shooting. This is baseball, Diamondbacks, I want you to storm that beach like it's Normandy!

by soco on Aug 12, 2008 8:15 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

gimme a break =[

I’ve never dunn it before =X

Wikipedia is accurate. (citation needed)

by Muu on Aug 12, 2008 8:17 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

No
Bad Muu! Bad!

Knock off the hippie crap, strap on a helmet, and start shooting. This is baseball, Diamondbacks, I want you to storm that beach like it's Normandy!

by soco on Aug 12, 2008 8:18 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

+A bajillion

That’s a lot, in case you didn’t know.

Am I avoiding the subject, or am I doing philosophy?

by kishi on Aug 12, 2008 8:17 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Well, then may I be

the one and only purveyor of that joke.

Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.

by DbacksSkins on Aug 12, 2008 8:18 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

If you're the one and only...

we’ll get 100 of them every thread. :-P

by emilylovesthedbacks on Aug 12, 2008 8:20 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I'll roll out

WIZARD if I need to.

Knock off the hippie crap, strap on a helmet, and start shooting. This is baseball, Diamondbacks, I want you to storm that beach like it's Normandy!

by soco on Aug 12, 2008 8:20 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

This, boys and girls,

is the principle of deterrence at work. Previous uses of WIZARD by soco equate to Hiroshima and Nagasaki, while the use of GIT ‘ER DUNN equates to the Soviets exploding the bomb in 1949.

Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.

by DbacksSkins on Aug 12, 2008 8:26 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

It's like

we’re a two man history presentation!

Knock off the hippie crap, strap on a helmet, and start shooting. This is baseball, Diamondbacks, I want you to storm that beach like it's Normandy!

by soco on Aug 12, 2008 8:27 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

We kick

so much ass…. 8-)

Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.

by DbacksSkins on Aug 12, 2008 8:37 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

:-3

Knock off the hippie crap, strap on a helmet, and start shooting. This is baseball, Diamondbacks, I want you to storm that beach like it's Normandy!

by soco on Aug 12, 2008 8:40 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

X-(

Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.

by DbacksSkins on Aug 12, 2008 9:20 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Cyclops?

Am I avoiding the subject, or am I doing philosophy?

by kishi on Aug 12, 2008 9:21 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

No?

Knock off the hippie crap, strap on a helmet, and start shooting. This is baseball, Diamondbacks, I want you to storm that beach like it's Normandy!

by soco on Aug 12, 2008 9:21 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Not necessarily.

I just like that smiley. It looks like a South Park character.

Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.

by DbacksSkins on Aug 12, 2008 9:23 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

That is very true

Knock off the hippie crap, strap on a helmet, and start shooting. This is baseball, Diamondbacks, I want you to storm that beach like it's Normandy!

by soco on Aug 12, 2008 9:24 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I agree

That kind of humour just doesn’t do anything for me

Dear Josh Byrnes: Please DFA Chris Burke. He can't hit, and probably never will.

by Zephon on Aug 12, 2008 8:20 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Im dunn with adam dunn jokes. :)

by J Up on Aug 12, 2008 8:19 PM EDT   0 recs

a dam adam dunn joke =p

Wikipedia is accurate. (citation needed)

by Muu on Aug 12, 2008 8:20 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Oh wow....

that was impressive!

Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.

by DbacksSkins on Aug 12, 2008 8:27 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

thank you ²

Wikipedia is accurate. (citation needed)

by Muu on Aug 12, 2008 8:34 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

nononononononononoooooooooooo

The Arizona Republic reports that Micah Owings is one of the players to be named in the Adam Dunn deal.

Wikipedia is accurate. (citation needed)

by Muu on Aug 12, 2008 8:21 PM EDT   0 recs

Really?

From some of the things I’ve read, that wouldn’t be allowed…

Am I avoiding the subject, or am I doing philosophy?

by kishi on Aug 12, 2008 8:22 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Noooooooooooooooooo

Oh well I’m over it.

Knock off the hippie crap, strap on a helmet, and start shooting. This is baseball, Diamondbacks, I want you to storm that beach like it's Normandy!

by soco on Aug 12, 2008 8:22 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

And now, another open letter to radio ads

Dear guy on the stupid DUI ad-

I’m not a lawyer, obviously, but I don’t think that you t get charged with DUI because you failed a field sobriety test. I’m pretty certain that they then give you a breathalyzer, which is what actually leads to being charged. I mean, were you so nervous that you released extra alcohol into your blood? Then, maybe you’d have a point. Until then, shut up.

Am I avoiding the subject, or am I doing philosophy?

by kishi on Aug 12, 2008 8:21 PM EDT   0 recs

TAKE ME HOME FROM THE BALLGAME

COS I’M REALLY DRUNK OR SOMEFINS
BUY ME SOME BUD AND MICHELOBS
I DON CARE IF I BLACK OUT
COS ITS PUKE PUKE PUKE
IN THE DA MENS ROOM
OR MAYBE DA WOMENS INSTEAD
FOR ITS ONE TWO FOUR PACKS OF BEER
AND NOW I’M GOOOOOOOOOOOOONE

Knock off the hippie crap, strap on a helmet, and start shooting. This is baseball, Diamondbacks, I want you to storm that beach like it's Normandy!

by soco on Aug 12, 2008 8:24 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Other than one or two lines, nice work matching the rhythm there.

Am I avoiding the subject, or am I doing philosophy?

by kishi on Aug 12, 2008 8:25 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Really bad lyrics

just ooze out of me.

Knock off the hippie crap, strap on a helmet, and start shooting. This is baseball, Diamondbacks, I want you to storm that beach like it's Normandy!

by soco on Aug 12, 2008 8:28 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

You should probably talk to a doctor about that.

Am I avoiding the subject, or am I doing philosophy?

by kishi on Aug 12, 2008 8:31 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I have an ointment

and he said it would clear up in a week or two, but no such luck yet.

Knock off the hippie crap, strap on a helmet, and start shooting. This is baseball, Diamondbacks, I want you to storm that beach like it's Normandy!

by soco on Aug 12, 2008 8:32 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

That was actually

composed by soco while drunk.

Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.

by DbacksSkins on Aug 12, 2008 8:28 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

If I were drunk

Jim would probably hide the comment and then maybe ban me. kishi can attest for my potty mouth in real life.

Knock off the hippie crap, strap on a helmet, and start shooting. This is baseball, Diamondbacks, I want you to storm that beach like it's Normandy!

by soco on Aug 12, 2008 8:28 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

That could be entertaining

Have you make all your posts by proxy through your wife.

Am I avoiding the subject, or am I doing philosophy?

by kishi on Aug 12, 2008 8:30 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

She'd go crazy

“Leave me alone, Tim, I’m trying to watch [insert current TV obsession]”

Knock off the hippie crap, strap on a helmet, and start shooting. This is baseball, Diamondbacks, I want you to storm that beach like it's Normandy!

by soco on Aug 12, 2008 8:31 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs