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Gameday Thread, #118: 8/10 vs. Braves

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Atlanta Braves @ Arizona Diamondbacks


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Mike Hampton
LHP, 1-0, 6.75
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Brandon Webb
RHP, 16-4, 2.93

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"Help me, Obi-Webb Kenobi; you're my only hope"

Say it with me. Then cross your fingers and hope that Brandon Webb can do what no-one on the pitching staff has managed to do to Atlanta yet in this series: beat them. You have to say, if we can't beat Hampton - with three major-league games since 2005 - then you might as well hand over the NL West to the Dodgers, despite their continual and endearing efforts to defer to us. It's like watching two obese gentlemen argue about who gets to go through a revolving door first.

With the smacking received by Haren yesterday, Webb now up to equal-fourth in the NL for ERA, at 2.93, trailing only Lincecum, Peavy and Santana. A complete game of one-run ball, like his last outing, would move him ahead of Santana. Six quality and unbeaten starts in a row for Webb, with his ERA at 1.60 over that time and a K:BB ratio of 34:8. His last defeat was all the way back on June 22. However, his previous outing against Atlanta was not his best, as he lasted only 4.1 innings, allowing ten hits and three walks.

The words "must-win game" are bandied about so much they have become a sports commentary cliché. However, this one certainly falls into the category of ones we really, really, really would like very much to win. With Hudson out for what could well be the rest of the season, the team needs to step up and show they won't fold like a house of cards. We're still in first, and will stay there as long as we keep winning. Though the Dodgers losing wouldn't hurt. :-)

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12:27pm

$5 on that being the time a certain poster shows up.

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by unnamedDBacksfan on Aug 10, 2008 3:10 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm already here, though!

Knock off the hippie crap, strap on a helmet, and start shooting. This is baseball, Diamondbacks, I want you to storm that beach like it's Normandy!

by soco on Aug 10, 2008 3:17 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Damn!

suckers bet!

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by unnamedDBacksfan on Aug 10, 2008 3:28 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

When do we get our five dollars?

Am I avoiding the subject, or am I doing philosophy?

by kishi on Aug 10, 2008 3:33 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

at Reynolds

26th birfday party?

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by unnamedDBacksfan on Aug 10, 2008 3:35 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nah

He doesn’t show up until either Arizona is losing or the other team are winning. Of course, now that any mention by him of the other team will be ruthlessly excised, we might see less of him.

by Jim McLennan on Aug 10, 2008 3:37 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Line up for the good guys

S. Drew ss
A. Ojeda 2b
C. Jackson lf
M. Reynolds 3b
C. Young cf
J. D’Antona 1b
C. Snyder c
C. Burke rf
B. Webb p

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by unnamedDBacksfan on Aug 10, 2008 3:37 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That is...

interesting.

Burp in right and D’Antona at first.

by emilylovesthedbacks on Aug 10, 2008 3:38 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Burke

Ugh. Him playing at second makes some kind of sense, but replacing Romero in right?

by Jim McLennan on Aug 10, 2008 3:40 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Did Salazar

get called up too?

Still, Romero >>>>>>>>Burpe
and Romero>Salazar, imo.

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by unnamedDBacksfan on Aug 10, 2008 3:44 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

so we give credit to BoMel for not putting THE worst possible lineup out there. Congrats BoMel.

"There are only two seasons: winter and baseball"
-- Bill Veeck

by njjohn on Aug 10, 2008 4:09 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Whoa whoa really??

I see Jeff in the dugout, I missed the pregame show. Awww Jeffy!

by snakecharmer on Aug 10, 2008 4:13 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It is, isn't it

wasn’t sure

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by unnamedDBacksfan on Aug 10, 2008 3:43 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I see...

Livan’s new team are getting their monies’ worth. Four consecutive hits for the Padres to lead off the game, and dropped the Rockies in a 4-0 hole before they got to the plate.

by Jim McLennan on Aug 10, 2008 3:39 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yea!

So glad it wasn’t us.

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by unnamedDBacksfan on Aug 10, 2008 3:44 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

9-0 San Diego

Livan has given up a 2-run homer and 3-run homer in the same inning.

by TwinnerA on Aug 10, 2008 4:02 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

nice......

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by unnamedDBacksfan on Aug 10, 2008 4:04 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

fabulous. too bad the dodgers didn’t pick him up.

"There are only two seasons: winter and baseball"
-- Bill Veeck

by njjohn on Aug 10, 2008 4:09 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

11-1 Padres

When San Diego scores double-digits off you – even in Coors – your pitching staff clearly has some issues.

by Jim McLennan on Aug 10, 2008 4:33 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

11-2

The Orks are making a comeback!

Livan has an ERA of over 30 now.

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by unnamedDBacksfan on Aug 10, 2008 4:38 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

11-7 now

the evil chris young is giving it all back in one inning

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by unnamedDBacksfan on Aug 10, 2008 4:47 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

After four innings

Coors pinball is back in full effect.

by Jim McLennan on Aug 10, 2008 4:50 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

14-7

Chargers over the Broncos

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by unnamedDBacksfan on Aug 10, 2008 5:20 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

15-7 padres

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by unnamedDBacksfan on Aug 10, 2008 5:38 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

soco's keys to the eventual game

1) Picking up mother-in-law at the airport
2) In-n-Out’s goodness
3) Dessert?

Knock off the hippie crap, strap on a helmet, and start shooting. This is baseball, Diamondbacks, I want you to storm that beach like it's Normandy!

by soco on Aug 10, 2008 3:55 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Dessert should be

an In-n-Out shake. That is the only thing you need. :-)

by emilylovesthedbacks on Aug 10, 2008 3:57 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not bad either

I just got a hankering for a cheese cake though

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by unnamedDBacksfan on Aug 10, 2008 3:58 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

3.) Cheese Cake!

The extra creamy kind that melts on the tongue

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by unnamedDBacksfan on Aug 10, 2008 3:57 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good for Drew

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by unnamedDBacksfan on Aug 10, 2008 4:22 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ojeda on

Conor fouled out at 1st.

1st and 2nd, one out

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by unnamedDBacksfan on Aug 10, 2008 4:26 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

2-0 us!

Smoked that ball by Reynolds for 2 more RBIs!

by TwinnerA on Aug 10, 2008 4:26 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Markkkkkkkkk!

WTG!

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by unnamedDBacksfan on Aug 10, 2008 4:28 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

YES, run #3!!

That’s a funny way to get an RBI…

by snakecharmer on Aug 10, 2008 4:30 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'll take it!

3-0, the good guys

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by unnamedDBacksfan on Aug 10, 2008 4:31 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

3-0

Reynolds steals 3rd and scores on a dribbler up the 1st base line by CY.

by TwinnerA on Aug 10, 2008 4:31 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

nice aggressiveness

by dbacksbj on Aug 10, 2008 4:31 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I must not show up more often

Nice to turn the TV on and find us three runs up at the end of the first. Now, let’s see Webb post a zero and keep all the momentum firmly in our dugout.

by Jim McLennan on Aug 10, 2008 4:32 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Orlando.........if there is a bright spot

Have you guys thought thought of the possibility that because hes now out for the season that its gonna be harder for him to ask for a big contract from another team. We might have a better chance of signing him because of this unfortuante accident.

by dbacksbj on Aug 10, 2008 4:33 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Did kinda wonder about this.

Though I still have to wonder whether we should give him a long-term contract. He’ll be 31, and odds are, we’ll be paying for his declining years – even though his OPS+ has gone up every season for the past three.

by Jim McLennan on Aug 10, 2008 4:35 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Defense slips first

before the offense does, right?

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by unnamedDBacksfan on Aug 10, 2008 4:37 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And really, we need him for defense

so how much is that going to be affected? Have to wonder if it’s worth it..

by snakecharmer on Aug 10, 2008 4:38 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yes

Link

Ages 27 to 29 are when fielding ability is greatest for second basemen as their efficiency rises and their range has not been greatly compromised.

by Jim McLennan on Aug 10, 2008 4:39 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hudson's Range Factor

2005 – .991 (Age 27)
2006 – .984 (Age 28)
2007 – .985 (Age 29)
2008 – .982 (Age 30)

by Jim McLennan on Aug 10, 2008 4:41 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

great stats

speaks volumes, we already know how great he is but its nice to have the data behind it :)

by dbacksbj on Aug 10, 2008 4:44 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

But just for comparison

League average Range Factors for the same years
2005 – .983
2006 – .984
2007 – .982
2008 – .981

So Hudson has declined from being well above average to, basically, being at league average. The odds are, that’ll decline further as he continues to age.

by Jim McLennan on Aug 10, 2008 4:46 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My mistake

Those were Fielding Percentages, but the principle is the same.

by Jim McLennan on Aug 10, 2008 4:55 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

knew where you were going. id give o dog 2 more years till his range drops noticably.

by dbacksbj on Aug 10, 2008 4:58 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Another possibility.

I was giving some thought as to what held up the Webb signing. He might have wanted insurance of a quality defense behind him, namely o dog since drew is signed for a while. I know hes 31, but id give him money just for helping our pitching staff while batting around 300 with a 330 plus ops.

by dbacksbj on Aug 10, 2008 4:38 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I highly doubt that’s what held up Webb’s contract… just my opinion.

by snakecharmer on Aug 10, 2008 4:39 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If I had the choice...

Of playing for a team that puts out a quality team year in and year out, that makes me look better I’d love to play for a team like that. Not to say the Diamondbacks don’t put out a quality product, but Webb certainly wouldn’t want a Burke behind him for several years. I just don’t think trade clauses held up the contract, and Webb already knows the Diamondbacks don’t increase a players salary due to performance.

by dbacksbj on Aug 10, 2008 4:42 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That's during the season, yes

But they were close to an extension deal in the pre-season. There were some quotes from him on the day of the Haren deal… posted somewhere…

by snakecharmer on Aug 10, 2008 4:49 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My father-in-law brought up this point. The fact that he’s had two season-ending injuries on consecutive years can’t help his value on the market.

Am I avoiding the subject, or am I doing philosophy?

by kishi on Aug 10, 2008 5:40 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Uh, Sutton, check the scoreboard. Cliff Lee got win #16 today already.

by TwinnerA on Aug 10, 2008 4:34 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Missed that

but we are out of that inning and Webb puts up a ZERO

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by unnamedDBacksfan on Aug 10, 2008 4:42 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Dodgers losing

So, no AZWILDCATS this afternoon.

by Jim McLennan on Aug 10, 2008 4:43 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good power by Snyder

Off the end of the bad, but still got enough to muscle it out of there.

by Jim McLennan on Aug 10, 2008 4:44 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

WTG CHRIS!!!!

This team ain’t rolling over! Love it

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by unnamedDBacksfan on Aug 10, 2008 4:44 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

4-0 us

We want even more runs now! Hampton is ripe for the picking here.

by TwinnerA on Aug 10, 2008 4:44 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

WOW

arrived just in time for Snyder’s bomb
(I was up all night watching the Olympics)

We will meet in Red 3 at the hour of scampering.

by hotclaws on Aug 10, 2008 4:46 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think the Hudson injury...

I was thinking earlier, as terrible as it is to lose O-dawg, I really think we’ll be okay. Augie played very well defensively last year in September, and his offensive numbers weren’t that bad either. I think he’ll do an adequate job at 2B, plus, I think the injury is going to spur the rest of the team to push a little harder and step it up more.

by snakecharmer on Aug 10, 2008 4:47 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

augie definitely has a place on his team but it is more to the effect of someone in the past that we had, someone like a quentin mccracken albeit he was an outfielder. he gives our team a boost but there is no way he can be our starter next year. when he does get to balls they usually are outs but just his poor little size and stature alone limit his ability to get to balls. i love his walks tho cause of his tiniest strike zone.

by dbacksbj on Aug 10, 2008 4:50 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Actually

2008 Range Factor per 9 IP:
Augie Ojeda: 5.89
Orlando Hudson: 4.82

The league average is 4.82, so Hudson is, again, right at average. Ojeda’s career figure at 2B is 5.16, so defensive, he’d actually probably be an upgrade. Offensively, however, his career OPS+ is 66, while Hudson’s is 99. If we extend Hudson, it’d be for his bat, not his glove.

by Jim McLennan on Aug 10, 2008 4:59 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

interesting. i still remember on 2 occausions (not a whole lot) where augie couldnt climb the ladder and he almost made a great play but was unable to :(

by dbacksbj on Aug 10, 2008 5:03 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ah, but...

He is very good at getting to ground-balls. :-)

by Jim McLennan on Aug 10, 2008 5:15 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

LOL

They’re letting everyone but Grace do the promos today.

by Jim McLennan on Aug 10, 2008 4:47 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hehehe, I like that

I liked the other day, when Chris Burke added “Sorry, Gracie” to his. :D

But I think the joke’s getting a little old..

by snakecharmer on Aug 10, 2008 4:48 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What?

You mean you aren’t rolling around in the floor in hilarity ever time they say, “Car!”

Truly, the terrorists have won… :-)

by Jim McLennan on Aug 10, 2008 5:09 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I liked the game on Wednesday (I think?) when they brought in one of the guys from the Spanish broadcast team to do the promo.

Am I avoiding the subject, or am I doing philosophy?

by kishi on Aug 10, 2008 5:44 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Brandon Webb

Had a better at-bat than Chris Burke…

by Jim McLennan on Aug 10, 2008 4:48 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

But is that really surprising at this point? :(

by snakecharmer on Aug 10, 2008 4:50 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Burke

as much use as a chocolate teapot.

We will meet in Red 3 at the hour of scampering.

by hotclaws on Aug 10, 2008 4:51 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Except Burke isn’t even that cute…

by snakecharmer on Aug 10, 2008 4:52 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

okay....

don’t know what to say to that.. lol!!

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by unnamedDBacksfan on Aug 10, 2008 4:53 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well, I haven't seen a chocolate teapot before ;)

But most things of that nature are cute. Not comparing Burke to a teapot, but the cuteness isn’t even really there for Burke.

... yeah, thought way too much about that one …

by snakecharmer on Aug 10, 2008 4:55 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

LOL! no worries

just teasing ya a bit!

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by unnamedDBacksfan on Aug 10, 2008 4:56 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hehe yeah

Yeah but aside from me just being crazy, I did have logic behind it. ;)

by snakecharmer on Aug 10, 2008 4:57 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Blanco!

You wuss! Hit like a real man.

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by unnamedDBacksfan on Aug 10, 2008 4:56 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Augie

Just missed a homer there. Shame.

by Jim McLennan on Aug 10, 2008 4:59 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ugh!

I hate when that happens!

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by unnamedDBacksfan on Aug 10, 2008 5:01 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Chipper wiht an error

Conor safe at first

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by unnamedDBacksfan on Aug 10, 2008 5:02 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Arrgg!

Mark hits into a double play ending that inning.

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by unnamedDBacksfan on Aug 10, 2008 5:04 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that sounded a bit tough luck

according to KTAR

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by hotclaws on Aug 10, 2008 5:05 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

figures.....

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by unnamedDBacksfan on Aug 10, 2008 5:07 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

could have been

I’m on game day only.. can’t get AM radio in this room and with the washing machine on, can’t hear the TV in other room.

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by unnamedDBacksfan on Aug 10, 2008 5:07 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Infante having

a good game against Webb so far…

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by unnamedDBacksfan on Aug 10, 2008 5:11 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

First-pitch strike

To every batter so far by Webb.

by Jim McLennan on Aug 10, 2008 5:11 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+10000 (for Webb)

Keep it up Webb.

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by unnamedDBacksfan on Aug 10, 2008 5:13 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

WORD!

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by hotclaws on Aug 10, 2008 5:13 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I like adjectives

personally.

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by unnamedDBacksfan on Aug 10, 2008 5:13 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

how about "frillilly"?

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by hotclaws on Aug 10, 2008 5:16 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I was really

going for a preposition.. As you can see, English class was never a strong suit for me.

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by unnamedDBacksfan on Aug 10, 2008 5:18 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm afraid

That kind of thing isn’t permitted here.

Oh, I’m sorry. I thought you said “proposition.” :-)

by Jim McLennan on Aug 10, 2008 5:19 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Francoeur

Made to look like he needs some more time down in the minors there. Another zero for Webb.

by Jim McLennan on Aug 10, 2008 5:12 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Giants waste an opportunity

Men on the corners, no outs, fail to score.

by Jim McLennan on Aug 10, 2008 5:16 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Just have faith

They bailed us out last night with that extra-innings win.

by TwinnerA on Aug 10, 2008 5:17 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wow

“Just have faith.” In the *Giants^. How times have changed… :-)

by Jim McLennan on Aug 10, 2008 5:19 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Come on Jamie

Just put it in play, one game at a time kid.

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by unnamedDBacksfan on Aug 10, 2008 5:16 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Or not

But still get on base. :-)

by Jim McLennan on Aug 10, 2008 5:18 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Or as Jim says

make them pitch to you and just get on base!

;-)

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by unnamedDBacksfan on Aug 10, 2008 5:19 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I’m sorry…. and we care…why? No Arizona team… no baseball…

by snakecharmer on Aug 10, 2008 5:20 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah

I had to wonder about that, but I got it eventually. Quite amusing, actually.

by Jim McLennan on Aug 10, 2008 5:22 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I lost money on you today

you owe me $5

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by unnamedDBacksfan on Aug 10, 2008 5:20 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Go take a look at the very first post

and you’ll understand…

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by unnamedDBacksfan on Aug 10, 2008 5:23 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

just a guess

and that’s why it is called gambling…..

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by unnamedDBacksfan on Aug 10, 2008 5:26 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'd have put money on

25 or 6 to 4

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by hotclaws on Aug 10, 2008 5:27 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Or another

Saturday in the Park

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by unnamedDBacksfan on Aug 10, 2008 5:29 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This is why

Burke’s OBP is a paper-tiger. His seventh IBB of the year, inflating his OBP another few points.

by Jim McLennan on Aug 10, 2008 5:21 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Burpe walked to get to Webb

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by unnamedDBacksfan on Aug 10, 2008 5:21 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!

PRICELESS

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by unnamedDBacksfan on Aug 10, 2008 5:22 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

loved seeing that .286 avg w/risp before that BLASTTTTTT!!

by dbacksbj on Aug 10, 2008 5:22 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Brandon!

:::bows:::
we’re not worthy!

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by hotclaws on Aug 10, 2008 5:22 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Amusingly

Webb now has the same number of RBIs as Burke…

by Jim McLennan on Aug 10, 2008 5:23 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

gut wrenchingly tragic

is the phrase I’d use

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by hotclaws on Aug 10, 2008 5:24 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oooh,Hampton outta here

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by hotclaws on Aug 10, 2008 5:26 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Another zero for Webb

Twenty for Twenty in first-pitch strikes.

by Jim McLennan on Aug 10, 2008 5:32 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

was robbed last year

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by hotclaws on Aug 10, 2008 5:38 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

not webb

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by unnamedDBacksfan on Aug 10, 2008 5:42 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Peavy

But with the numbers he put up last season, he deserved it.

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by kishi on Aug 10, 2008 5:42 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah

Here’s the comparison. Can’t really argue too much. This wasn’t a Clemens over Johnson type fiasco.

by Jim McLennan on Aug 10, 2008 5:43 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Glad to see this is going better than the last few...

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by kishi on Aug 10, 2008 5:38 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's because I'm not there

and not really paying attention at all…

But you know who else isn’t around? ‘Skins.
I say we deport him.

by emilylovesthedbacks on Aug 10, 2008 5:44 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Your logic is irrefutable.

Now we just need to take up a collection to buy a judge.

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by kishi on Aug 10, 2008 5:45 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Gnats are still doing us favours

We will meet in Red 3 at the hour of scampering.

by hotclaws on Aug 10, 2008 5:40 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

LETS GO GNATS!

(I need to go take a shower now)

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by unnamedDBacksfan on Aug 10, 2008 5:42 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It’s worse than you thought- Randy Winn has all the Giants RBIs so far.

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by kishi on Aug 10, 2008 5:43 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

oh man!

I need a shot of penicillin then

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by unnamedDBacksfan on Aug 10, 2008 5:45 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He must have finished

Saving orphans from burning buildings.

Now’s he’s facing the Dodgers, he is the Hero with a Thousand Faces…

by Jim McLennan on Aug 10, 2008 5:45 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

or Harvey Dent,lol

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by hotclaws on Aug 10, 2008 5:46 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

LOLs

Adverts for CableTheft.com. Yeah, that’ll help.

by Jim McLennan on Aug 10, 2008 5:40 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Finally

After 22 straight first-pitch strikes, Webb finally throws a ball.

by Jim McLennan on Aug 10, 2008 5:44 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ugg

get out of this Webby

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by hotclaws on Aug 10, 2008 5:46 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ick

Webb loads the bases with no outs. Only at ninety pitches, but I’d settle for getting out of this inning with two runs given up.

by Jim McLennan on Aug 10, 2008 5:46 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm doing my bit to help

Just picked up Infante for my fantasy team. And lo, he flies out on the first pitch.

by Jim McLennan on Aug 10, 2008 5:46 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Bases loaded and nobody out

91 pitches and finally an out but a run given up.

by TwinnerA on Aug 10, 2008 5:47 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Urgh

Francoeur up. Likely results:
a) strikeout
b) homer
I am pulling for a), shall we say…

by Jim McLennan on Aug 10, 2008 5:47 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that's it

I’m hiding for 10 minutes

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by unnamedDBacksfan on Aug 10, 2008 5:48 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We can get a GIDP…

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by kishi on Aug 10, 2008 5:49 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I love me some Brandon Webb!

Out at home and first! Double play!

by TwinnerA on Aug 10, 2008 5:49 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

THANK YOU!!!!!!

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by unnamedDBacksfan on Aug 10, 2008 5:50 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

awesome

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by hotclaws on Aug 10, 2008 5:50 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I officially hate

Kenny Chesney and his Poets and Pirates tour.

by Jim McLennan on Aug 10, 2008 5:51 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I feel he’s not living up to the proper reputation for either poets or pirates, and wish to formally demand an apology on behalf of both parties.

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by kishi on Aug 10, 2008 5:52 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Gilbert and Sullivan would be appalled.

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by hotclaws on Aug 10, 2008 5:53 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

whats up with kenny chesney?

by dbacksbj on Aug 10, 2008 5:54 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He’s pretty lame.

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by kishi on Aug 10, 2008 5:57 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

As would

Lord Byron and Captain Jack Sparrow.

by Jim McLennan on Aug 10, 2008 6:00 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So would Rudyard Kipling and Don Karnage.

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by kishi on Aug 10, 2008 6:04 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Jamie

with two walks

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by unnamedDBacksfan on Aug 10, 2008 5:55 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

CY

1-14 in this series. Ugh.

Webb at 96 pitches. Bets on if he goes out for the 7th?

by TwinnerA on Aug 10, 2008 5:56 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

if he does melvin better let him finish the inning…....... that being said i almost hope he doesnt.

by dbacksbj on Aug 10, 2008 5:57 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Burpe up

I bet they pitch to him this time

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by unnamedDBacksfan on Aug 10, 2008 5:58 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And...

To no-one surprise, grounds out.

by Jim McLennan on Aug 10, 2008 6:00 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Tracy in the on-deck circle for Webb

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by kishi on Aug 10, 2008 5:59 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Let's get Larry

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by hotclaws on Aug 10, 2008 6:06 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

kthxbye

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by hotclaws on Aug 10, 2008 6:07 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

1-2-3 for Qualls

After the single, at least, but no damage done.

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by kishi on Aug 10, 2008 6:06 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I blame Melvin

for this mess today.

Knock off the hippie crap, strap on a helmet, and start shooting. This is baseball, Diamondbacks, I want you to storm that beach like it's Normandy!

by soco on Aug 10, 2008 6:11 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That guy too

Knock off the hippie crap, strap on a helmet, and start shooting. This is baseball, Diamondbacks, I want you to storm that beach like it's Normandy!

by soco on Aug 10, 2008 6:15 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I like

The camera-angle from behind the plate. Gives you a good idea of horizontal movement.

by Jim McLennan on Aug 10, 2008 6:12 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Deeeeeewwwwwwwb

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by hotclaws on Aug 10, 2008 6:12 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Augie,Augie,Augie

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by hotclaws on Aug 10, 2008 6:15 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The natural order is restored

Randy Winn just struck to end the inning and strand a runner on second. We can go back to hating him now.

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by kishi on Aug 10, 2008 6:16 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Qualls going for two innings?

Okay…

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by kishi on Aug 10, 2008 6:17 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The previous inning

was pretty short, wasn’t it?

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by soco on Aug 10, 2008 6:18 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah, it was

I didn’t realize just how short it had been, really.

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by kishi on Aug 10, 2008 6:20 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I didn't either

It seemed longer than that, with the base hit and all, but wow, 9 pitches.

by snakecharmer on Aug 10, 2008 6:21 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Too bad

Webby didn’t seem to get any 9-pitch innings or he’d have stayed out longer.

by TwinnerA on Aug 10, 2008 6:31 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Again

Grace with the Roman thumbs-down metaphor. We get it, Grace.

by Jim McLennan on Aug 10, 2008 6:21 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He's trying

to earn those reading glasses

"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson

by Scrbl on Aug 10, 2008 6:27 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

1-2-3 for Qualls

I hereby apologize for my skepticism, Chad. Nicely done.

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by kishi on Aug 10, 2008 6:22 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Two very nice innings from Qualls

Three outs to get. Looks like another sub-2:30 Webb start.

by Jim McLennan on Aug 10, 2008 6:22 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Quality from Qualls

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by hotclaws on Aug 10, 2008 6:23 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Dodgers in the lead

Boooo Manny! Booooo!

"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson

by Scrbl on Aug 10, 2008 6:28 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Pitch counts for SF/LA

Billingsley at 116
Cain at 126

Surely they are both done for the day.

by TwinnerA on Aug 10, 2008 6:33 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

and 1, 2, 3

here comes the wildcat…......

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by unnamedDBacksfan on Aug 10, 2008 6:28 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

:;pregnant pause:::::::

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by unnamedDBacksfan on Aug 10, 2008 6:29 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Spot on the mark

Though since he was discussing the Dodgers, I had to delete his comment.

by Jim McLennan on Aug 10, 2008 6:33 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ahhh,

that would explain why my comments are being re-directed.

Good call there.

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by unnamedDBacksfan on Aug 10, 2008 6:33 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I apologize

For any inconvenience this may cause. I could just hide them, but I’m not sure if that deletes them when people are already in the thread.

by Jim McLennan on Aug 10, 2008 6:35 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

S'all right!

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by unnamedDBacksfan on Aug 10, 2008 6:35 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Chris Young

surprised Greg Schulte on that one.

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by Scrbl on Aug 10, 2008 6:30 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Mustang Sally's back

Knock off the hippie crap, strap on a helmet, and start shooting. This is baseball, Diamondbacks, I want you to storm that beach like it's Normandy!

by soco on Aug 10, 2008 6:30 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That surprised me

We lose an infielder, and call up another outfielder?

by Jim McLennan on Aug 10, 2008 6:31 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

'tis a fool

who looks for logic in the chambers of the human heart. Or Bob Melvin.

"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson

by Scrbl on Aug 10, 2008 6:32 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

base hit for CY

sweet

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by hotclaws on Aug 10, 2008 6:30 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

cross X X fingers

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by hotclaws on Aug 10, 2008 6:32 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Seriously

I can’t look at Jon Rauch’s picture without wanting to laugh.

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by kishi on Aug 10, 2008 6:34 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Memo to kishi

Laughing at 6’11”, heavily tattooed professional sportsmen is probably not a good thing for your life expectancy…

by Jim McLennan on Aug 10, 2008 6:35 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

A very good point

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by kishi on Aug 10, 2008 6:37 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I wouldn’t want to meet him in a dark alley or maybe in a well-lit alley!

by TwinnerA on Aug 10, 2008 6:36 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I would

he’s my type

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by hotclaws on Aug 10, 2008 6:38 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He looks

stoned off his ass on the Yahoo game day picture I got

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by unnamedDBacksfan on Aug 10, 2008 6:38 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I know

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by hotclaws on Aug 10, 2008 6:40 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

okay

Lets close this baby out!

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by unnamedDBacksfan on Aug 10, 2008 6:36 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Back to back Ks for Rauch

One to go!

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by kishi on Aug 10, 2008 6:37 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Game

Webb at 17 wins on the season, just one short of his entire 2007 season! Oh, and go Giants!

by TwinnerA on Aug 10, 2008 6:39 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Giants! Giants!

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by soco on Aug 10, 2008 6:39 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Alabama inning

to end the game!

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by soco on Aug 10, 2008 6:39 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

K!

Nice to get the win, now let’s keep it up going into Colorado.

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by kishi on Aug 10, 2008 6:39 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

17 wins for Webb!

Knock off the hippie crap, strap on a helmet, and start shooting. This is baseball, Diamondbacks, I want you to storm that beach like it's Normandy!

by soco on Aug 10, 2008 6:39 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That is pretty impressive

You have to like his Cy Young chances this year.

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by kishi on Aug 10, 2008 6:40 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Win 17

for our ace!

Nice work team!

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by unnamedDBacksfan on Aug 10, 2008 6:40 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hoooo yahhhhh

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by hotclaws on Aug 10, 2008 6:40 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Now I can go back

and watch the White Sox take on the Red Cubs.

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by soco on Aug 10, 2008 6:44 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And I can go watch the Olympics

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by hotclaws on Aug 10, 2008 6:47 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Only appears to be

Swimming on that I can access from here.

by Jim McLennan on Aug 10, 2008 6:50 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

However

I have found Shaun of the Dead on the Comedy Channel so that’ll do, even in its cut form, while I do the recap.

by Jim McLennan on Aug 10, 2008 6:56 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I've got 5 hours of cross country

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by hotclaws on Aug 10, 2008 7:34 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Jeff Kent went 0 for 4 today before getting pulled in a double switch. Yeah, he’s definitely hitting a lot better with Manny behind him in the lineup.

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by kishi on Aug 10, 2008 6:54 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

“M. Ramirez struck out, reached on passed ball, H. Kuo to second on passed ball”

Didn’t we learn last week that if there’s a runner on first, a strike out is a strike out, even on a passed ball or a wild pitch?

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by kishi on Aug 10, 2008 7:11 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not with two outs

The rule is to stop the catcher from deliberately dropping a third strike, in order to get a double-play. With two outs, that obviously isn’t the case, so a dropped third strike still needs to be thrown out, even with a runner on first.

by Jim McLennan on Aug 10, 2008 7:14 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ah, I see

Well, Giants have put up back to back singles to start off the bottom of the ninth…

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by kishi on Aug 10, 2008 7:17 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Here come the Giants...

First two on in the bottom of the ninth…

by Jim McLennan on Aug 10, 2008 7:17 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Bases loaded, no outs

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by kishi on Aug 10, 2008 7:20 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sorry, one out

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by kishi on Aug 10, 2008 7:20 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Or no outs

Yahoo Sports is giving me some conflicting info there…

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by kishi on Aug 10, 2008 7:21 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah

That confused me too. Looks like Gameday skipped entirely over Vizquel’s PH, but he is now listed as 0-for-1.

by Jim McLennan on Aug 10, 2008 7:21 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Two outs now

Dealing with a ball to the catcher…

by snakecharmer on Aug 10, 2008 7:23 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Tie game!

With- ugh- Randy Winn scoring the tying run…

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by kishi on Aug 10, 2008 7:22 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Torre seems to be taking a book from Melvin’s book. Once your pitcher has got the bases loaded with one out, I’m not sure why you’d leave him out to pitch.

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by kishi on Aug 10, 2008 7:24 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Should clarify

Ball went to Kuo, went through Kuo, and then the second baseman bobbled and the run scored!

by snakecharmer on Aug 10, 2008 7:25 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Dodgers CHOKE! Dodgers CHOKE!

Where’s AZWILDCATS? I’d even let him post about this one. :-)

by Jim McLennan on Aug 10, 2008 7:25 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I, for one, am just shocked at his absence!

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by kishi on Aug 10, 2008 7:27 PM EDT