Finding a platoon mate for Tracy
I know this has been talked about in various posts all ready, but i think it deserves it's own thread.
Chad Tracy's career batting line against LHP is .220/.268/.336. With Conor in LF, and Byrnes on the DL, Tracy is going to see a lot more time against LHP than he should. He honestly shouldn't see any playing time against LHP. So the most glaring and obvious need for the team right now is a first basemen or a left fielder that can mash against lefties. I say left fielder, because you can just as easily slide Conor back to first when we're facing lefties. Preferably, you'd find a first basemen, but if it's easier to find a left fielder for the right handed part of the platoon, than the team should just go ahead and do that.
So here's the question: Is there already a suitable platoon mate for Tracy in our farm system?
If not, who's a player on another team that we can acquire via trade?
Down in the minors, Bryan Byrne, and Javier Brito are both right handed first basemen that have done well against lefties. Byrne has a higher average against LHP than RHP, but there's a drop off in power. Javier Brito mashes against LHP, and has put up some nice numbers over the course of his career, but he's struggled in Tucson this year before he was demoted to Mobile. All though he's been playing in the outfield this year, he's spent the majority of his career at first.
I suppose you could also throw in Rusty Ryal and Jamie D'antona in the discussion. D'antona may not be as good as his BABIP fueled numbers suggest, but I do think he'd be an improvement over Tracy against LHP. All though neither are primarily first basemen or left fielders, D'antona can play first, third, and can play catcher in case of some kind of emergency. He could also probably provide average defense in left field and has a reputation of having a great throwing arm. Ryal has never played first, but he has played the outfield, in addition to having playing pimarily second and third during his career. He can also back up shortstop. In addition to providing the right handed half a platoon with Tracy, both could probably do a much better job than Chris Burke has offensively in the role of back up 3b/2b/OFer
There really aren't any other guys in the minors who'd be suitable as a platoon mate for Tracy or are close enough to being ready for the majors. Tucson first basemen Josh Whitesell has a lot of power, but he's also left handed, and all his power comes against RHP. He could be useful in some other role, particularly if there is a need for a leftie with some power.
So now that we know what we have in the upper levels in the minors, we still don't really have an obvious candidate to platoon with Tracy.
So it comes down to acquiring a guy via trade or waivers. In my opinion, finding such a player should be easier than going out and finding an all star caliber LFer. We just need a guy who can provide suitable defense at first base or in left field and that can mash against left handed pitching.
Some of first basemen that hit LHP well, and could be acquired are Sean Casey, Dmitri Young, Aaron Boone, and Kevin Millar. Some outfielders would be Xavier Nady, Jay Payton, Randy Winn, and Emil Brown. If you want to throw some third basemen into the mix: Willy Aybar, Wilson Betemit, Melvin Mora, and Casey Blake could all probably be had. I'm not sure if each of these guys are available. Most are either playing for a team that's out of the race(Millar, Young, Boone, Nady, Payton, Winn, Mora, Blake), or are blocked by a better player(Betemit, Aybar, Casey).
I asked Tim Dierkes of MLBtraderumors.com and he suggested Bill Hall, Mark Loretta, Richie Sexson, Xavier Nady, Jose Bautista, Aaron Boone, Casey Blake, Rich Aurilia, and Kevin Millar are all guys that could be available.
So what are your thoughts? Who do you like for a platoon with Tracy?
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Pablo Ozuna
The White Sox just DFA’d him. He destroys lefties. He can play LF, as well as the infield. He’s better than Chris Burke.
Fire Bob Melvin. Free Jamie D'Antona. Eric Byrnes Sucks.
by nihil67 on Jul 8, 2008 5:12 PM EDT 0 recs
Interesting find...
He’s not the greatest hitter ever.. but he is better than Chris Burke…
Here’s a link to his career stats.. and his career batting splits.
I wouldn’t say he “destroys” LHP: .302/.332/.399… Decent average, an OBP only 30 points higher… and a mediocre slugging. He could be a decent waiver pick up though.
by Zephon on
Jul 8, 2008 6:21 PM EDT
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Destroy may have been an overstatement
But he has had a year or two of minor domination. 2006 and this year, to date.
Looking at it deeper, maybe he isn’t the best choice. But, I have to believe he’s better than Burke.
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by nihil67 on
Jul 8, 2008 7:12 PM EDT
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I'll agree with you on the better than Burke part.
Of course, that doesn’t really mean all that much. We’re just looking for a guy who can put up numbers better than .269/ .341/ .381, which is burke’s line against LHP.
Please platoon Chad Tracy with someone other than Chris Burke!
by Zephon on
Jul 8, 2008 7:30 PM EDT
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Other thoughts
Brito may also be interesting to try.
I’m not thrilled with any of the available guys through trade. Either because of their ability or what it would take to acquire them.
Fire Bob Melvin. Free Jamie D'Antona. Eric Byrnes Sucks.
by nihil67 on Jul 8, 2008 5:18 PM EDT 0 recs
whipping boy
sez: even left handed adam dunn would be an improvement over tracy (.711 OPS to .375 against lefties), plays both positions and is supposedly available. is it worth checking out?
by leemellon on Jul 8, 2008 5:21 PM EDT 0 recs
Not likely
Has $6.5M left on his contract for this year, is a free agent after this year, and has a partial no-trade. Cincy, at a bare minimum, is going to demand 2 prospects with similar value as the 2 first round picks they’d get from him being a type A free agent.
I would be shocked if Dunn gets moved at all.
Fire Bob Melvin. Free Jamie D'Antona. Eric Byrnes Sucks.
by nihil67 on
Jul 8, 2008 5:35 PM EDT
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I wouldn't mind Dunn
Of course he strikes out way to much and always has a low BA.
One guy that I doubt is available, but a lot of guys talked about getting was Pat Burrell. He’d make a mighty fine addition, but I doubt he’s available.
Of all the guys that are available, I like Xavier Nady, Bill Hall, and Willy Aybar the most. Willy Aybar is blocked by Longoria in Tampa Bay, so I think he could be acquired. I think Bill Hall could be had for Orlando Hudson straight up.
by Zephon on
Jul 8, 2008 6:12 PM EDT
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Hall for Hudson
Wouldn’t that be robbing Peter to pay Paul? Now we need a second baseman. If we’re going to dump Hudson, which I am 100% all for btw, I’d rather see it be for a prospect. Someone like Alcides Escobar, if it’s the Brewers we’re dealing with.
Fire Bob Melvin. Free Jamie D'Antona. Eric Byrnes Sucks.
by nihil67 on
Jul 8, 2008 7:10 PM EDT
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How about Hall+Weeks for Hudson?
Please platoon Chad Tracy with someone other than Chris Burke!
by Zephon on
Jul 8, 2008 7:30 PM EDT
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How about
Hall and Oates for Hudson? (I’m sorry, but it had to be said.)
by isoldout on
Jul 9, 2008 4:34 AM EDT
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Aside from it making us even more right handed
I’d probably make that deal. I think it’d be a nice buy-low(ish) on Weeks and Hall helps the platoon situation with Tracy. Hell, I’d be willing to toss the Brewers Burke just to thank them for their time. Weeks is arb. eligible through 2011. Hall is under contract through 2010.
Fire Bob Melvin. Free Jamie D'Antona. Eric Byrnes Sucks.
by nihil67 on
Jul 9, 2008 11:36 AM EDT
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Wes Helms?
On the Marlins, but I believe the Phillies are paying his contract?
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by nihil67 on Jul 9, 2008 7:34 PM EDT 0 recs
Looking at his platoon splits
Kinda interesting… He’s got a .254/.296/.377 line against RHP, and a .224 /.328 /.388 against LHP. So he has a higher batting average against RHP, but he’s got a higher OBP and slightly higher slugging against LHP. I’m not too impressed by his stats though. I don’t think he’s the answer either
Please platoon Chad Tracy with someone other than Chris Burke!
by Zephon on
Jul 9, 2008 8:45 PM EDT
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Look at his career numbers
You’re basing your judgment on 49 at bats this year. His career OPS vs. LHP is .826. 105 points higher than his career OPS vs RHP.
Fire Bob Melvin. Free Jamie D'Antona. Eric Byrnes Sucks.
by nihil67 on
Jul 9, 2008 9:19 PM EDT
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*slaps head*
I don’t know why I didn’t go ahead and look at his career numbers.
Looking at his OPS vs LHP the last three years(much more relevant than looking at his whole career). Last year he had a 791 ops against RHP. In 2006 a 919 OPS against LHP. in 2005 he had a 881 OPS vs LHP.
I suppose he could be one answer, I guess. He is 32 years old, and appears to be declining though.
Please platoon Chad Tracy with someone other than Chris Burke!
by Zephon on Jul 9, 2008 9:43 PM EDT 0 recs
That should say that he a 791 OPS against LHP last year.
Please platoon Chad Tracy with someone other than Chris Burke!
by Zephon on
Jul 9, 2008 9:44 PM EDT
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I found a guy that would be more controversial than Bonds
Fire Bob Melvin. Free Jamie D'Antona. Eric Byrnes Sucks.
by nihil67 on Jul 10, 2008 3:54 PM EDT 0 recs
Ughh
No thanks.
Please platoon Chad Tracy with someone other than Chris Burke!
by Zephon on
Jul 10, 2008 4:09 PM EDT
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i
might be tempted to kill richie sexson if he ever dons an az uni again.
by leemellon on
Jul 10, 2008 4:50 PM EDT
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The chase field security will have to install snipers through out the stadium
Sexson will have to wear a bulletproof uni
Please platoon Chad Tracy with someone other than Chris Burke!
by Zephon on
Jul 10, 2008 5:41 PM EDT
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Sexson
has a 1045 OPS against LH pitching in 61 ABs this year – where he has really struggled is against RH pitching where he has somethingl ike a 580 OPS.
by golfmanthee on
Jul 10, 2008 6:56 PM EDT
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BTW
maybe I’m forgetting something but why the hatred for Sexson?
by golfmanthee on
Jul 10, 2008 6:57 PM EDT
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2004
December 1, 2003: Traded by the Milwaukee Brewers with a player to be named later and Shane Nance to the Arizona Diamondbacks for Junior Spivey, Craig Counsell, Lyle Overbay, Chad Moeller, Chris Capuano, and Jorge de la Rosa. The Milwaukee Brewers sent Noochie Varner (minors) (December 15, 2003) to the Arizona Diamondbacks to complete the trade.
Proceeds to rip his shoulder from its socket in his 91st at bat of the season. Leaves to sign with Seattle the following off-season.
Fire Bob Melvin. Free Jamie D'Antona. Eric Byrnes Sucks.
by nihil67 on
Jul 10, 2008 7:06 PM EDT
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So. . . .
he was part of a bad trade, legitimately got hurt and then exercised his free agency rights and you’re upset at him?
I mean the DBacks knew he was going to be a free agent and Sexson walking was absolutely a chance they took. I thought maybe I forgot him promising to sign in the off-season or something.
Sorry, can’t get upset at Sexson for that one
by golfmanthee on
Jul 10, 2008 7:15 PM EDT
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That's fine
I’m not saying I am either, but I know a lot of people didn’t like how he handled it.
Fire Bob Melvin. Free Jamie D'Antona. Eric Byrnes Sucks.
by nihil67 on
Jul 10, 2008 7:56 PM EDT
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That's what I don't remember
is if there was something else that happened that I’m forgetting.
by golfmanthee on
Jul 10, 2008 8:17 PM EDT
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Nope, that's it, as far as I can tell.
I mean, I guess he was a bit of a mercenary, but this is the free agency era. Who isn’t?
I don’t hate Sexson. In fact, I have the fond memory of being present for the longest HR in franchise history. :-P
DFA Chris Burke. Sign Barry Bonds.
by DbacksSkins on
Jul 11, 2008 11:23 AM EDT
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He was hitting .233 before he got injured, which didn’t win him many fans. I also dislike him because I follow the Mariners, and he’s been terrible for them, too.
"Evil lurks everywhere, often in plain sight... Can you lurk in plain sight? Or is that just walking?"
by kishi on
Jul 10, 2008 8:07 PM EDT
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Yes but
he had a 915 OPS – his power and walks were still there. Batting average is a meaningless stat by itself. In fact the walks are still there this year although the power is down quite a bit
Also, he was good the 1st 2 years of the Seattle contract but has benn AWFUL the last 2 years.
by golfmanthee on
Jul 10, 2008 8:19 PM EDT
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Hmmm.....
whatever happened to Steroids Spivey?
DFA Chris Burke. Sign Barry Bonds.
by DbacksSkins on
Jul 11, 2008 11:21 AM EDT
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Wasn't he an all star?
at some point? I remember having him in my D-Backs team in High Heat Baseball one year
So...time for another drink then?
by Wimb on
Jul 11, 2008 12:50 PM EDT
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He was an allstar in '02
Dear Josh Byrnes: Please DFA Chris Burke. Give D'antona a chance. Trade for someone that actually knows how to hit.
by Zephon on
Jul 11, 2008 3:00 PM EDT
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When
Brenly was managing, yeah. He stacked the roster with Dbacks. (As was the custom back then)
DFA Chris Burke. Sign Barry Bonds.
by DbacksSkins on
Jul 11, 2008 6:41 PM EDT
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I meant
beyond that, careerwise.
DFA Chris Burke. Sign Barry Bonds.
by DbacksSkins on
Jul 11, 2008 6:42 PM EDT
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According to Wikipedia
Following a stint with the Bridgeport Bluefish of the independent Atlantic League of Professional Baseball in 2007, the Boston Red Sox signed him to a minor league contract and assigned him to the Pawtucket Red Sox, their triple-A affiliate. Spivey resigned with the Red Sox in January 2008, but was released during spring training.
So...time for another drink then?
by Wimb on
Jul 14, 2008 11:59 AM EDT
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Hah!
I’ve seen a Bridgeport home game. Wasn’t while Spivey was with them, though.
Mark Reynolds: back to turning me gay.
by DbacksSkins on
Jul 14, 2008 1:42 PM EDT
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for a minimum contract I'm game...
I think he can still hit… esp LHP.
"There are only two seasons: winter and baseball"
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by njjohn on
Jul 10, 2008 11:13 PM EDT
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How about. . . .
Casey Blake?
Read in ShysterBall’s column that the Indians are shopping Blake – he’s a righty who hits lefties pretty well (career 827 OPS against LH), he’s 34 (almost 35) so he couldn’t possibly command a premium in trade and has played RF and 1B and 3B the last few years (per BP, he’s pretty average at 1B and 3B but pretty good at RF)
by golfmanthee on Jul 11, 2008 12:56 AM EDT 0 recs
Doesn't matter to me
It’s all rearranging deck chairs as I have no confidence in Melvin to successfully operate a platoon.
Fire Bob Melvin. Free Jamie D'Antona. Eric Byrnes Sucks.
by nihil67 on
Jul 11, 2008 10:54 AM EDT
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I've wanted to contribute to this all week
But really im scratching my head trying to figure out who we could get at a decent price.
:( <— Is the only way to sum up my frustration at our offensive situation
So...time for another drink then?
by Wimb on Jul 11, 2008 12:58 PM EDT 0 recs
Paul LoDuca
Can catch, play 1st, and can man LF (I won’t call it “play”). Has been significantly better against LHP all through his career and could likely be had from the Nationals for a 12-pack of Pepsi and a couple cheeseburgers.
He’s got about $2.5M left on his deal for this season. Not exactly “cheap”, but not unreasonable either.
Fire Bob Melvin. Fire A.J. Hinch. Eric Byrnes Sucks.
by nihil67 on Jul 14, 2008 1:03 PM EDT 0 recs
Interesting idea....
Mark Reynolds: back to turning me gay.
by DbacksSkins on
Jul 14, 2008 1:42 PM EDT
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An upgrade on Hammock
That’s for sure. Though if Tracy continues to smack lefties like he has of late, this topic is not really going to be one of our problems. According to here, he’s now 10-for-21 against them. I’d settle for that, obviously.
by Jim McLennan on
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