Gameday Thread, #86: 8/3 vs. Brewers
by Jim McLennan
on Jul 3, 2008 3:11 PM EDT
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Running a little late with the thread here: I actually remembered it was a day game, but had to go in for my monthly chat with the boss. Survived that, so tossing this up quickly in my morning break. We need a win here, after the total disaster which was last night - Webb takes the mound, and after a couple of shaky outings, returned to normal form last time, with a quality start. However, Parra has an impressive record, and restricted us to one run over seven innings when we faced him in Milwaukee.
The offense has shown some signs of life lately, and has hit .302 in the past five games. However, last night proved that this isn't enough, by and of itself, to guarantee victory - not when defense, base-running and managerial incompetence all weigh down the other side of the scales. It's becoming abundantly clear that the team needs a short, sharp shake-up, and Melvin's team meeting wasn't it. Not much more I can add. Let's get the victory and split the series.
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God bless Webb...
- The Question is: What is manah-manah?
- The Question is: Who cares!?
by Muu on Jul 3, 2008 3:24 PM EDT 0 recs
I'm pissed
And every member of the team should be too. Last night’s game was inexcuseable. I don’t have much else to say.
by Zephon on Jul 3, 2008 3:26 PM EDT 0 recs
line ups
Brewers
2B Rickie Weeks
SS J.J. Hardy
RF Corey Hart
1B Prince Fielder
3B Russell Branyan
LF Gabe Kapler
CF Mike Cameron
C Jason Kendall
LHP Manny Parra
D-Backs
SS Stephen Drew
RF Justin Upton
2B Orlando Hudson
1B Conor Jackson
3B Mark Reynolds
CF Chris Young
C Robby Hammock
LF Chris Burke
RHP Brandon Webb
by Zephon on Jul 3, 2008 3:35 PM EDT 0 recs
Beat me to it
Good to see Reynolds back at third. Not so happy to see Burke in left, but I suppose we have very limited options there. Hammock catching: I guess Randy will be pleased. :-)
by Jim McLennan on
Jul 3, 2008 3:37 PM EDT
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Dodgers up 5-2 over Houston
Looks like we will need to win, or else the lead will be half-a-game by dinnertime. :-(
by Jim McLennan on Jul 3, 2008 3:39 PM EDT 0 recs
don't wanna jinx him, but Webb look sharp today
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by Muu on Jul 3, 2008 3:45 PM EDT 0 recs
Scoreless first for Webb
Works round a ground-rule double by Hardy, which works for me, since he’s my fantasy SS.
by Jim McLennan on Jul 3, 2008 3:46 PM EDT 0 recs
the new gameday from mlb.com looks like a flash game lol
SHIFT Happens!!1
by Muu on Jul 3, 2008 3:51 PM EDT 0 recs
Sadly
Can’t use it here. It requires I install Flash, and I don’t have admin privileges on this computer. :-( And at home, I don’t have enough resources to run the full version – it’s a severe hog of memory. So what I’ve seen looks very cool, but incredibly jerky.
by Jim McLennan on
Jul 3, 2008 3:55 PM EDT
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No, it's all Windows
But they’ve got it locked down so tight, I can’t even change my desktop pic.
by Jim McLennan on
Jul 3, 2008 4:01 PM EDT
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Seriously, guys
I’m tired of the first two guys getting quick outs, and then the offense showing up. How about we start getting more hits with no outs?
"Evil lurks everywhere, often in plain sight... Can you lurk in plain sight? Or is that just walking?"
by kishi on Jul 3, 2008 3:55 PM EDT 0 recs
Actually
We hit .257 with no outs, .245 with one out and .241 with two outs. But I know what you mean.
by Jim McLennan on
Jul 3, 2008 3:58 PM EDT
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I’d be curious to see what that would look like if we went by month.
"Evil lurks everywhere, often in plain sight... Can you lurk in plain sight? Or is that just walking?"
by kishi on
Jul 3, 2008 4:12 PM EDT
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Uh-oh
"Evil lurks everywhere, often in plain sight... Can you lurk in plain sight? Or is that just walking?"
by kishi on Jul 3, 2008 4:03 PM EDT 0 recs
1-0
Stupid passed ball.
"Evil lurks everywhere, often in plain sight... Can you lurk in plain sight? Or is that just walking?"
by kishi on Jul 3, 2008 4:05 PM EDT 0 recs
Aargh
It’s all falling apart.
When does football season start? :-(
by Jim McLennan on Jul 3, 2008 4:05 PM EDT 0 recs
I hate American football.
It combines two of the worst aspects of american life: Committee meetings and Violence.
And it’s boring as hell, and there’s no real team I can follow with out feeling like a bandwagon fan.
by Zephon on
Jul 3, 2008 4:18 PM EDT
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So do I
But at the moment, it might be preferable to baseball. That I suggested this, gives you some idea of how pessimistic I feel.
by Jim McLennan on
Jul 3, 2008 5:15 PM EDT
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Ooh, lucky double play
Nice heads up by Reynolds to get that ball to second after the run-down.
Ugly inning, but could have been a lot worse.
"Evil lurks everywhere, often in plain sight... Can you lurk in plain sight? Or is that just walking?"
by kishi on Jul 3, 2008 4:06 PM EDT 0 recs
"You helped? You either discover a star or you don't!"
That ad entertains me.
"Evil lurks everywhere, often in plain sight... Can you lurk in plain sight? Or is that just walking?"
by kishi on Jul 3, 2008 4:08 PM EDT 0 recs
Schulte said they showed Webb in the dugout and he is really perspiring. The roof must be closed. It seems every time they show Webb pitching lately his head is just drenched. Sometimes I wonder about his fitness.
by TwinnerA on Jul 3, 2008 4:10 PM EDT 0 recs
It is the monsoon season.
The humidity in Arizona this time of year can be quite high. Roof closed or not, that’s going to make you sweat.
by Zephon on
Jul 3, 2008 4:21 PM EDT
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What was with that play?
CY, why did it take you about seven seconds before you even came into the frame there? Lousy play like that, if you ran it out, you might have made it before he got control of the ball. It’s a longshot, but, seriously, show some freaking hustle.
"Evil lurks everywhere, often in plain sight... Can you lurk in plain sight? Or is that just walking?"
by kishi on Jul 3, 2008 4:15 PM EDT 0 recs
Another inning
Another stranded base-runner.
Sigh.
by Jim McLennan on Jul 3, 2008 4:17 PM EDT 0 recs
*sigh*
The struggles of this team offensively are driving me insane.
by Zephon on Jul 3, 2008 4:19 PM EDT 0 recs
Good news!
They’re giving you defensive and pitching struggles to distract you from the offense!
"Evil lurks everywhere, often in plain sight... Can you lurk in plain sight? Or is that just walking?"
by kishi on
Jul 3, 2008 4:21 PM EDT
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Hammock isn’t really looking comfortable behind the plate.
"Evil lurks everywhere, often in plain sight... Can you lurk in plain sight? Or is that just walking?"
by kishi on Jul 3, 2008 4:23 PM EDT 0 recs
Ack
Home to Hardy. Helps my fantasy team, hurts my real one.
On the whole, I’d rather it was the other way around. :-(
by Jim McLennan on Jul 3, 2008 4:23 PM EDT 0 recs
Meanwhile...
Zephon’s fantasy team AND real life time continue to suck.
by Zephon on
Jul 3, 2008 4:24 PM EDT
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real life team*
I really need to proof read more frequently
by Zephon on
Jul 3, 2008 4:25 PM EDT
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Why hasn't JB..
Called up a position player with the recent spat of DL activity?
I’m rather surprised we haven’t seen D’antona, Ryal, hell even Parra called up. Pitching isn’t our biggest problem right now. Our offense and defense are our biggest concern.
by Zephon on Jul 3, 2008 4:28 PM EDT 0 recs
Two out walk to Hudson
"Evil lurks everywhere, often in plain sight... Can you lurk in plain sight? Or is that just walking?"
by kishi on Jul 3, 2008 4:31 PM EDT 0 recs
Left there
blah. Seriously, guys.
"Evil lurks everywhere, often in plain sight... Can you lurk in plain sight? Or is that just walking?"
by kishi on
Jul 3, 2008 4:32 PM EDT
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K K* K due up
Kapler, Kameron* and Kendall
SHIFT Happens!!1
by Muu on Jul 3, 2008 4:35 PM EDT 0 recs
Eh
So far, not much to see.
"Evil lurks everywhere, often in plain sight... Can you lurk in plain sight? Or is that just walking?"
by kishi on
Jul 3, 2008 4:37 PM EDT
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glad u heard me
now let’s score some runs…
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by Muu on Jul 3, 2008 4:41 PM EDT 0 recs
It's a start
Now can we get anything done with it? I hope so.
"Evil lurks everywhere, often in plain sight... Can you lurk in plain sight? Or is that just walking?"
by kishi on
Jul 3, 2008 4:45 PM EDT
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Good to hear
that Mark grace has already started to blame the lack of runs this game on the non-existent running game.
by dahlian on Jul 3, 2008 4:47 PM EDT 0 recs
So we can have more eight inning losses
like last night’s game?
by dahlian on
Jul 3, 2008 4:51 PM EDT
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Hit for CY
Two on, no outs. You have to get these runs in, guys.
"Evil lurks everywhere, often in plain sight... Can you lurk in plain sight? Or is that just walking?"
by kishi on Jul 3, 2008 4:47 PM EDT 0 recs
With Hammock-Burke coming up
this may be the only time I’d ever approve of bunting in the fourth inning.
by dahlian on Jul 3, 2008 4:48 PM EDT 0 recs
Hammock is clutch.
Also, it’s going to be hard to win this game with three easy outs in the lineup.
by dahlian on Jul 3, 2008 4:49 PM EDT 0 recs
GIDP
It may be accepted in polite society, but I use it with all the vehemence that an F-bomb deserves.
"Evil lurks everywhere, often in plain sight... Can you lurk in plain sight? Or is that just walking?"
by kishi on Jul 3, 2008 4:52 PM EDT 0 recs
for god, get rid of Burke... call someone else from AAA...
the guy has something like 18 hits on 110 AB… I can hit better…
SHIFT Happens!!1
by Muu on Jul 3, 2008 4:54 PM EDT 0 recs
From Wimb’s posts about his team, I think we should send a scout over the England. =)
"Evil lurks everywhere, often in plain sight... Can you lurk in plain sight? Or is that just walking?"
by kishi on
Jul 3, 2008 4:56 PM EDT
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Apparently on Wisconsin radio
Sutton alluded to a future trade between these two teams. The thing is, that it’s really hard to upgrade a lineup full of young, good-but-not-great, hitters with upside.
The one move that I think has the best chance of actually helping this team short-term and long term is to pick up a player like Bill Hall. His versatility would allow us to jettison Burke and he would be a nice right handed bat to fill in the LF-1B platoon.
by dahlian on Jul 3, 2008 4:56 PM EDT 0 recs
With 10 home runs.
and an additional 42 points of OPS+ over Chris Burke. Hall is also pounding lefties to the tune of .333/.395/.569 which is our biggest need right now.
by dahlian on
Jul 3, 2008 5:05 PM EDT
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What would we have to give up
To get those extra 42 points of OPS over Burke? If it’s not…well, Burke, then it’s very hard to see the appeal. Also, that split vs. LHP is based on a .408 BABIP, so he’s basically hitting them like Upton in April. We all know how that worked out…
by Jim McLennan on
Jul 3, 2008 5:18 PM EDT
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For his career he's hitting .278/.355/.494 against LHP
so it’s not as if there isn’t precedent. And it’s 42 points of OPS+.
The reason I suggest Hall is that he’s not going to require a whole lot to give up. He’s a platoon utility guy that’s on the outs with team management having already requested a trade this season. He’s also 28 so it’s not as if the Brewers are looking to hold on to him for the potential upside.
This team is really hard to upgrade and I think it would be foolish to try to and acquire somebody to replace one of the kids. The best thing that JB can do, in my opinion, is to upgrade the complementary parts and hope that one of the kids breaks out to that next level.
by dahlian on
Jul 3, 2008 5:27 PM EDT
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That's an awesome glove
And a nice lead-off hit from Webb.
"Evil lurks everywhere, often in plain sight... Can you lurk in plain sight? Or is that just walking?"
by kishi on Jul 3, 2008 5:00 PM EDT 0 recs
Grace: "We need some baserunners."
We had two to lead-off last inning! We had plenty last night. We need to do something with those baserunners!
"Evil lurks everywhere, often in plain sight... Can you lurk in plain sight? Or is that just walking?"
by kishi on Jul 3, 2008 5:03 PM EDT 0 recs