Diamondbacks 5, Giants 3: Lincecum = sickness, SF 'pen = cure
Record: 52-51. Pace: 82-80. Change on last season: -3
Hello, above .500. We've not seen you for a bit - not since the calendar left June behind, almost four weeks ago. But, slowly, this team appears to be returning to... Well, if not quite the behemoth that bestrode the early season like... like... like a bestriding, behemothesque thing, then at least a team capable of playing solid baseball, and beating the opposition in a number of ways. Winners in four of our last five, and having gone 9-6 over fifteen: this is encouraging.
What genius was it who said, after the first inning, "I think our best hope is to take a lot of pitches, weather the storm, then plunder the Giants bullpen"? Oh, that was me. And the plan worked to perfection. After seven innings, San Francisco had the lead, and Lincecum was hit for in the bottom of the inning. His lead lasted exactly one out into the top of the eighth and the Giants' relief corps, as we took full advantage of an error and Chris Young's sacrifice fly tied the game at three. An RBI single from - who else? - Mr. Reliability, Conor Jackson, gave us the lead, and a sacrifice fly from Tracy added an insurance run. Jon Rauch pitched a perfect eighth, and Lyon worked around a single to get his 21st save. Mission accomplished - and not in a President Bush, horrifically premature, way.
Webb becomes the NL's first fourteen-game winner, running his record to 14-4, thanks to the late outburst from our hitters. He allowed a run in the first, on a sacrifice fly, but after a lengthy inning there, settled down. The only other Giants' scoring came with two outs in the sixth, on a two-RBI single that gave the lead back to San Franciso. But despite (arguably) being out-pitched by Lincecum - who struck out thirteen in seven innings, particularly brutalizing Drew three times, leading off the first, fourth and sixth innings - it was Webb who came out with the W. He allowed four hits, two walks and three earned runs in seven frames, striking out eight. That took him past 1,000 for his career, though the Giants ran on him every chance they could, stealing three bases.
Similarly, it probably doesn't matter that we ended with a K:BB ratio for the night of 15:0, the worst ever in franchise history for a regulation game - we went 16:0 on August 31, 2004 against the Dodgers, albeit in 13 innings. Nor does it matter too much, that we lost two outs at home-plate, first as Romero tried to score from third on a grounder by Webb, and then as Snyder tried to score from second, after a Webb single. Are there stats available for this kind of thing? Because we certainly seem to be losing a lot of people there. What matters more on this evening, are the two-RBI double by Snyder, which represented the sum of our scoring off Lincecum, and the two hits he, Jackson and Hudson each posted.

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Master of his domain: Chris Snyder, +16.0%
Honorable mentions: Jackson, +15.8; Hudson, 14.1%; Ojeda, +14.0%
God-emperor of suck: Chris Young, -10.3%
A somewhat lightly-attended, but still brisk and thoroughly-entertaining Gameday Thread: well, I enjoyed it, anyway! Even without 'Skins [in Ecuador] and 'Charmer [at the game, I believe], we slipped past five hundred comments, so thanks to kishi, hotclaws, dahlian, AF DBacks Fanatic, Wimb, mrssoco, TwinnerA, soco, unnamedDBacksfan, Scrbl, Muu, luckycc and AZWILDCATS for their contributions. It was a wide-ranging discussion, that covered everything from tattoos to Christian Bale. Just another night at the SnakePit, even though I forgot to post the link to the chat-room. Must add it as a permanent one on the sidebar.
The win means we've taken back-to-back series for the first time since May 18, when we beat Detroit in the rubber game of that encounter, after having swept the Rockies. More evidence of a positive trend. Now, let's see if we can extend the winning streak to three tomorrow - having gone 0-6 in our previous attempts to do so over the past couple of months. It promises to be an engrossing battle of overpaid left-handed starters... More on that one tomorrow, though the Gameday Thread probably won't appear until after noon. I'm still at The Sets at time of posting, and we're just heading into the third - and most interesting! - act of our burlesque show, so we are still some way from seeing warm, pillowy fluffiness!
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Yep, I was at the game!!
I did not let vertigo keep me from this game! (I missed yesterday’s due to not feeling well from vertigo and a headache… and ended up falling asleep during the game because of the headache. :() I don’t know what interesting tidbits I can tell though…
- Lincecum was awesome tonight. I like games where there are good pitching, and this was certainly one of them. We were so glad Walker came in, and Giants fans were so pissed, it ROCKED. :D
- I was surprised to see Webb struck out 8, because with Lincecum’s dominance, it really was kinda hard to notice… but YAY Webb! I was worried about him going out to the 7th but he showed me with a quick inning!
- How close were those plays at the plate and at first?? I thought Snydes got around the tag on his, but Romero’s was dumb and totally out. And was there any indication why Mark Reynolds would point at the ump after his play? He looked out to me.
- Also, could CY have caught that ball that scored those last 2 runs? It looked like he could’ve dove and gotten for it, and with 2 outs the runners were going to score anyway so the only loss there would’ve been a runner at 3rd.
- Ohhhh how glad I am that AT&T is so huge and we have thick salty sea air to keep that last ball in the ballpark!!
- One of my insiders-who-shall-remain-anonymous didn’t like keeping Chris Burke and sending down Salazar either. Jeff should be happy to know he has a lot of friends rooting for his swift return. :)
- I did get my picture with John Rauch but he didn’t figure Randy would go for a joint photo LOL.
- Mike Koplove is apparently on the Team USA baseball team!!
by snakecharmer on Jul 27, 2008 3:29 AM EDT 0 recs
"...Giants fans were so pissed, it ROCKED. :D"
Most Giant fans – particularily the McCovey Chronicles participants – display this timeworn dislike for all things Dodger…other than wanting to brick my TV when Lasorda stuck his bulbous piehole in a TV camera and did his season’s end rant on the evening they killed our ‘93 103 win season I could care less.
I am , however . absolutely and inexplicably annoyed by Arizona. Probably your success ratio , but our respective posters (Hypocritically gulty here) happily perpetuate..
Last night the brightest thing Giant in years
It’s a conditioned response , this shrugging of the shoulders and wondering when someone will stop the losing streak…probably the Nationals , lol
WTF – Tony Clark , AGAIN?
(Sigh) Win the damned division already. End the torture.
TRY not to be the ‘08 Rockies. Good luck with that – it’s still a strong AL
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Arizona thinks we're Washington which thinks we're Arizona.
by victor frankenstein on
Jul 27, 2008 1:51 PM EDT
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Rrrr
...the brightest thing Giant in years was once again failed by our consistently erratic bullpen…IMHO that you didn’t win as much as caught what we hamhandedly dropped.
Arizona thinks we're Washington which thinks we're Arizona.
by victor frankenstein on
Jul 27, 2008 1:56 PM EDT
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The Diamondbacks
scored more than the Giants, that’s a win. Sure, they got some help from a woefully bad bullpen, but that’s like any other part of the game; if you aren’t good at it then you should expect people will take advantage.
Knock off the hippie crap, strap on a helmet, and start shooting. This is baseball, Diamondbacks, I want you to storm that beach like it's Normandy!
by soco on
Jul 27, 2008 2:33 PM EDT
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You live here?
IIRC. That probably makes things a bit different for you – and probably explains why ‘Charmer, a Bay Area resident, is similarly delighted by the local fans’ misery. Living in the midst of “enemy territory” is bound to affect emotions in this way. I know I was never more rabidly patriotic for Scotland than when I lived in London; now, I’m more like, ‘Yeah, I’m British.’
I know my feelings towards the Giants have mellowed considerably since they got rid of ol’ Big Head. I still occasionally have a nostalgic feeling of dislike, but I know the Cubs are definitely ahead of them on my hit-list now, and probably also the Padres.
by Jim McLennan on
Jul 27, 2008 1:57 PM EDT
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I don't hate the Giants at all
I actually kind of like watching them play of the most part.
Knock off the hippie crap, strap on a helmet, and start shooting. This is baseball, Diamondbacks, I want you to storm that beach like it's Normandy!
by soco on
Jul 27, 2008 2:34 PM EDT
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Oh no, they're not bad..
They’ve got a lot of good young players, and I REALLY like watching Lincecum pitch. It’s a rebuilding franchise, and for the most part, they’re doing okay. It’s the overpaid, snobby veterans I dislike watching.
Plus, most Giants fans buuug the crap out of me. They were/are in luv liek omg eleventyone with Bonds and think he can do no wrong and that they didn’t see or care about his decline annoyed me. I like watching Giants fans suffer. :D
by snakecharmer on
Jul 27, 2008 3:21 PM EDT
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Ever been drunk?
Not puking drunk but juust past pleasantly buzzed drunk , where you’re just goofyhappy?
Barry did that for us.
Now comes the hangover…
Arizona thinks we're Washington which thinks we're Arizona.
by victor frankenstein on
Jul 27, 2008 5:49 PM EDT
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I just noticed that Harden started the Cubs game yesterday. In his three starts with the Cubs, he’s got a 1.04 ERA, WHIP of 0.92, BAA of .133, a K/9 rate of 15.58…. and a record of 0-1.
He also left the game after the fifth. Seriously, if he can’t start staying in games longer than that, why not just move him to the bullpen?
"Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so."
by kishi on Jul 27, 2008 8:30 AM EDT 0 recs
It doesn't help
that the Cubs can’t score runs right now.
Knock off the hippie crap, strap on a helmet, and start shooting. This is baseball, Diamondbacks, I want you to storm that beach like it's Normandy!
by soco on
Jul 27, 2008 11:14 AM EDT
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Thrown out at the Plate
After last night’s game, the Diamondbacks have had 14 runners thrown out at home plate. Of these runners, 1 was a batter going for an inside-the-park homer, 5 were from second base, and a whopping 8 were thrown out from third base. I don’t have a full leaderboard updated to today, but I’d guess that puts us near the top of the list, as on July 22, the leader in runners thrown out at the plate was the Angels, with 16 runners gunned down.
by LucaMaz3 on Jul 27, 2008 9:07 AM EDT 0 recs
Actually
I believe it was Hardball Times that posted an article recently where they broke down baserunning mathematically and found that major league teams are WAYYYYY too conservative when it comes to taking the extra base. It depends on which situation you’re talking about bu t for most situations a team increases it’s run scoring if it is successful around 75% of the time. The article found that teams were successful well over 90% of the time but only attempted the advance about 50% of the time. If you think about it, it is odd that teams will accept a 60% success rate with some base stealers but everyone goes bonkers if a guy gets thrown out trying to take an extra base even though it is the same basic idea – move up 90 ft and make it easier to score a run.
If you think about all that has to go right to throw a runner out from the outfield (especially CF where the throw has to avoid the mound), it was smart to send Snyder there especially with a tough pitcher like Lincecum on the mound.
by golfmanthee on
Jul 27, 2008 1:28 PM EDT
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One important point
A man on third is a good bit more valuable than one on first, so losing him is a greater waste. Here’s how it stacks up, based on the Run Expectancy Tables:
No outs, man on first: expect to score 0.953 runs
No outs, man on second (successful steal): 1.189 – gain of 0.246
One out, bases empry (failed steal): 0.297 – loss of .656
Break-even point: 73%
It’s a little harder to analyze the man on third situation, and whether he should try for home, because there are any number of situations which could trigger it. A ground-out, sacrifice fly, wild pitch, single from second or double from first would all score the man, and the run expectancy afterwards would depend on the cause. However, in very simplistic terms, considering only the man on third:
No outs, man on third: expect to score 1.482 runs
No outs, one man in, bases empty (successful advance): 1.555 – gain of only 0.077
One out, bases empty (nailed at home): 0.297 – loss of 1.185
Break-even point: 94%
That’s the most extreme case, with no outs; caution is definitely recommended, since the runner at third will still likely score, even if he stops there.
With two outs, the break-even point comes down to 65%, because with two outs and a man on third, the run expectancy is much smaller, only 0.387 [less than a man on first with no outs]. It obviously also depends on the batter up next: if the pitcher is coming to the plate, with two outs, then you should probably send the runner, pretty much unless the catcher already has the ball, or Micah Owings is due up. ;-)
by Jim McLennan on
Jul 27, 2008 1:53 PM EDT
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Key number
34: Combined quality starts by Brandon Webb and Dan Haren, the most in the majors for any two teammates.
Will Hope Prevail?
by unnamedDBacksfan on Jul 27, 2008 12:09 PM EDT 0 recs
Shades of Johnson/Schilling
rrrrrrrrrrr
love good pitching , whatever color jersey.
Arizona thinks we're Washington which thinks we're Arizona.
by victor frankenstein on
Jul 27, 2008 1:58 PM EDT
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Oh! Also forgot to add...
that I met Jamie D’Antona too. REALLY nice guy, seems genuine, and very happy to be up. I didn’t know how close he was to my age or I would’ve flirted more. ;) (Kidding! Sorta.)
by snakecharmer on Jul 27, 2008 2:23 PM EDT 0 recs















