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Browsing the baseball globe today the Diamondbacks have been linked by both Fox and ESPN to signing Braves First Baseman Mark Teixeira. Fox's Ken Rosenthal in particular discusses the prospect.  linky

Whilst it's been made clear in many places that the deal is unlikely would you be in favour of the move under the right circumstances?

If Rosenthal is to be believed the Braves want CoJack as part of the deal and I know I'm stating the obvious but for me that just makes absolutly no sense. CoJack now has value at both LF and 1B and is tearing up pitching recently helping spark the offence. Also worth noting his defence in left has been more then adequete and his speed has also increased making him at least a nuissance in the eyes of pitchers.

Personally I'd love Tex and I don't think it would be too damaging to commit the roughly $5 million he is owed for the rest of the season, especially considering we would get 2 draft picks when he presumably leaves for free agency.

So really I just thought I'd open it up to what sort of package you'd think it would take to get him over here (if you want him at all) With Rauch added to the bullpen we could presumably move one of our bullpen arms but I'd like to think the Braves would be tempted by dangling Doug Davis or even Micah Owings plus a prospect. With Smoltz not certain to return to the rotation and Glavine likely to retire they Braves have a need for starting pitching and with the Petit and Scherzer showing themselves as capable arms I think we could absorb the loss of either Davis or Owings/Petit.

Bottom line though is I think with the addition of Clark the D-Backs ruled this one right out and barring an injury to Clark or Tracy I don't see it happening

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Teixeira for Jackson sounds like a puzzling fantasy baseball trade. You know the type. The owner of Teixeira sidles up to you with greedy, half-drunk smirk and begs you to give a away one of your best long-term assets for a mediocre short-term gain.

It’s not that Teixeira is a bad player. But without Jackson’s bat in the lineup, there wouldn’t be a big improvement. The fact that Fox and ESPN are both suggesting it either scares me (that a decision maker on the D-Backs might also take it seriously) or worries me (for the safety of the ESPN/Fox staffs. Someone must be spiking the morning coffee). Either way, D-Backs please don’t make this trade!

If the Diamondbacks have to give up Jackson, Reynolds, Drew, Upton or Young (and maybe even Scherzer or D’Antona) to get a short term “big bat” like Teixeira, then the cost is too high. I hear Chris Burke might be available.

"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson

by Scrbl on Jul 24, 2008 12:14 PM EDT   0 recs

Chris Burke

for Mark Teixeira? Damn… I was really hoping to get Dan Uggla or Alex Rodriguez or Matt Holliday for Burke.

I mean, he CAN play like 6 positions.

Mark Reynolds: back to turning me gay.

by DbacksSkins on Jul 25, 2008 8:59 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

There is no way

we give up Jackson for Tex. We need a bat in our lineup that will connect and make something happen every time he hits. That bat is Jackson.

by DiamondbacksWIn on Jul 24, 2008 1:43 PM EDT   0 recs

Davis and a prospect outside of Scherzer and Parker.

That’s a good deal if we have the money to sign him.

The team that continues to disappoint, the Arizona Diamondbacks.

by srdmad on Jul 24, 2008 2:09 PM EDT   0 recs

Perhaps....

Mark Reynolds: back to turning me gay.

by DbacksSkins on Jul 25, 2008 8:51 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

That would make all kinds of not-sense

“Let’s give up our best bat this season to get a badly needed bat!”

"Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so."

by kishi on Jul 24, 2008 2:17 PM EDT   0 recs

Also

It certainly wouldn’t clear up the logjam at first, or give us a left fielder.

"Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so."

by kishi on Jul 24, 2008 3:22 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah. It sounds more like a trade that the writer WANTS to see, rather than one that will actually happen.

::crosses fingers and prays::

"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson

by Scrbl on Jul 24, 2008 5:20 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

You're right, that's mighty strange logic

Your team’s best hitter in OBP, SLG, OPS, and BA at 26 years old, earning $419,500 in exchange for just two months of Mark Teixeira, who’s earning $12,500,000 this year and FAR more for years to come as we lose him to free agency after this season.

Trading a 26 year old with an .887 OPS who’s under our control for a 28 year old with that same identical .887 OPS who’ll be gone in two months makes no sense whatsoever.

Essentially you’d be trading Jackson for a couple of draft picks. PASS and keep passing.

by TAP on Jul 24, 2008 7:43 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Really?

They have the same OPS? I’m guessing CoJack’s OBP is higher but Tex’s slugging % is higher—and OBP is more important, anyway. (Unless you’re more worried about homeruns and headlines than winning)

Mark Reynolds: back to turning me gay.

by DbacksSkins on Jul 25, 2008 8:53 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

According to Eric Karabell,

it’s about fantasy numbers. And Conor Jackson’s just “aren’t that good.” The D-Backs Roto scores would be much better if they traded for Teixeira.

"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson

by Scrbl on Jul 25, 2008 10:31 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Well, that's our mistake, then

Obviously we traded for Rauch so we could get more saves on top of the ones Lyon gets.

"Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so."

by kishi on Jul 25, 2008 10:43 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Well.....

farbeit from us to ignore “fantasy numbers”. Nevermind the first word in that phrase….

Mark Reynolds: back to turning me gay.

by DbacksSkins on Jul 26, 2008 12:47 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Well, not the same OPS anymore…

Jackson’s OPS is now .902 while Teixeira’s is .888.

Jackson .402 OBP and .500 SLG
Teixeira .384 OBP and .504 SLG

Considering age, control time, and salary, a trade of Jackson for a 2-month Teixeira rental would be flat out insane and word from the AZ FO is that Conor for Teixeira talk is just “"rumors without any real basis.”

by TAP on Jul 27, 2008 2:24 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

OPS+

Ballpark adjusted…Tex 135, CJ 131

Of course the point TAP makes still remains. Even after adjusting for ballpark, it wasn’t a good idea last year and wouldn’t be a good idea this year to move CJ for Tex. Control, contracts, dollars, etc.

by shoewizard on Jul 27, 2008 3:18 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I don't get it

Why does everyone want to trade Davis? We don’t have anything to replace him with.

Fire Bob Melvin

by nihil67 on Jul 24, 2008 2:23 PM EDT   0 recs

It's not that I want to get rid of him, more that he's the best trade worthy piece we have

But we need a player right now who can make an impact every day, our pitching has coped without him before and we have the players in house to at least get around 80% of Davis’s output. On the other hand we just don’t have that bat. Also trading Davis would help to balance the books for the rest of the season though I don’t think that’s a big issue

So...time for another drink then?

by Wimb on Jul 24, 2008 5:20 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Jayson Stark chimes in
Every indication is that the Braves have at least touched base with the Rays, Red Sox, Dodgers, Angels and Yankees on Teixeira. But Arizona appears to be the team to watch. The Diamondbacks quietly made a big run at Teixeira last July, and they’re in just as serious need of some major thump now. An official of one club that spoke with the Diamondbacks describes them as having “definite interest.” But while the Braves would love to wrest away Conor Jackson, it’s tough to imagine Arizona dealing away a player it likes that much for two months of Teixeira.
Link

[I also corrected the spelling of his name – had to look it up to make sure!]

by Jim McLennan on Jul 24, 2008 4:25 PM EDT   0 recs

Heh

Thanks Jim :)

So...time for another drink then?

by Wimb on Jul 24, 2008 5:17 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

He would be a great pickup in the right deal. As others have said, a deal based around CoJack would not make sense. Tracy could be dealt, not sure if he is someone the Braves would be interested in though. What about a deal that includes Lyon? He will be a FA after the year and could potentially bring the 2 draft picks ATL would get by keeping Teixeira. Something like Tracy/Lyon/midlevel (likely SP) prospect for Teixeira and an OK lefty middle reliever (or just lefty specialist even)? Is this enough for a couple months of Tex (and the compensatory picks we would get for him), or too much for us to give up? Would the Braves have any interest in Tracy? Does using Lyon purely for his ability to bring back pick(s) make sense?

by manphibian on Jul 24, 2008 5:05 PM EDT   0 recs

From the D-Back’s end, this sounds workable. Not sure how the Braves would like it though. Although he’s looked good recently, Tracy’s more of a platoon player than he is a starter. I don’t know how often teams trade for players like that when they’re not contenders looking to fill a very specific hole.

I also don’t know if we have a tradeable lefty right now. If we did, I think he’d be on the team.

But the idea of a serviceable veteran plus a an “A” free agent sounds interesting.

"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson

by Scrbl on Jul 24, 2008 5:19 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

If a team trades

their half-season rent a player and waves the white flag, then the last thing they’ll want in return is another half-season rent a player.

by dahlian on Jul 24, 2008 5:53 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm not saying they'd want Lyon...

I’m working from the assumption that what they are looking for in return for Teixeira is simply more than they would get by keeping him (the draft picks). By getting Lyon back they would be getting the picks, which might make the mediocre prospect or two look pretty good, like they are adding them essentially for free. Of course if Lyon doesn’t look like a type A, it doesn’t work as well. Don’t know what their closer situation is, whether he would get the saves needed to insure that designation.

by manphibian on Jul 24, 2008 6:11 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

If CoJack's name is involved...

The answer is a resounding no.

Similarly, CoJack/Brandon Webb for Mark Teixeira/John Smoltz is also a resounding no.

by Azreous on Jul 24, 2008 5:14 PM EDT   0 recs

Seriously?

Are people seriously suggesting that that might be an option? I thought Texeira for Jackson was ridiculous, and if you add Webb/Smoltz in there it becomes absolutely ludicrous.

by bcloirao on Jul 24, 2008 5:23 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Nah.

More a reference to a thread back at the start of the season where a Webb/Smoltz trade was suggested, then hastily shot down.

by Azreous on Jul 24, 2008 5:24 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Good

Otherwise I’d have to commit Hari Kari.

Two older rentals for two young studs. Sounds a lot like Isiah Thomas in New York.

by bcloirao on Jul 24, 2008 5:29 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Boy...

If Teixeira had like 5 years/$300 million left on his contract, that comparison would be frighteningly accurate. As it is, it’s still pretty good.

by Azreous on Jul 24, 2008 5:32 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I dunno

Teixeira is too good currently for that comparison to make sense. He’d have to be showing clear signs of major decline and/or coming off of a major injury/surgery, and at the same time not fit the teams needs very well.

by manphibian on Jul 24, 2008 5:41 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Webb for Smoltz....

....was ALWAYS such a stupid trade.

And yet, the Braves fans were honestly torn…

Mark Reynolds: back to turning me gay.

by DbacksSkins on Jul 25, 2008 9:00 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Watch it…don’t make me break out my statistics…

I guess I should be one to talk.
There's nights that I can't even walk.
There's days I couldn't give a fuck.
And in between is where I'm stuck.

by Smoltz's Beard on Jul 25, 2008 9:41 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

OH NO

STATISTICS

Do you honestly think any of us here are going to want to move Webb for pretty much anyone?

Knock off the hippie crap, strap on a helmet, and start shooting. This is baseball, Diamondbacks, I want you to storm that beach like it's Normandy!

by soco on Jul 25, 2008 10:21 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Considering I wasn’t talking to you, maybe stay out of this? I’m joking around with Dbacks Skins.

I guess I should be one to talk.
There's nights that I can't even walk.
There's days I couldn't give a fuck.
And in between is where I'm stuck.

by Smoltz's Beard on Jul 25, 2008 10:35 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Please break out with your statistics

Could I see your statistics that prove trading Smoltz for Webb is NOT a stupid trade for the Diamondbacks to make?

How bout we look at the facts and statistics in the real world?

He’s been injured this year and has ONLY PITCHED 28 INNINGS and started just 5 games.

John Smoltz is 41 years old and is signed to a one year contract with club option for ‘09 and ‘10. He’s getting paid $14M this year, $12 million next year, and at least $12 million in 2010. His options for ‘09 becomes guaranteed with >200IP, and the same goes for his 2010 based on how many innings he’s pitched in ‘09.

Let’s compare that to Brandon Webb’s who’s 29 years old, and is essentially signed through 2010. He’s getting paid $5.5M this year, $6.5M in 2009, and has an $8.5M club option for 2010.

Just by comparing the two player’s contracts you can see that trading Webb for Smoltz makes no sense economically for Arizona. If that’s not enough to convince you, we’ll go ahead look at their numbers this year.

Smoltz has an era of 2.57, 36:8 K:BB, and 1.179 WHIP.
Brandon Webb has a ERA of 3.11, 116:36 K:BB ratio, and a 1.158 WHIP

Yes his ERA is lower than Webb’s, but you have to take in to consideration the fact he’s pitching in pitching friendly ball park. Webb is pitching in one of the best hitter’s park in the game. Webb has also recently gone through a rough stretch of starts. I wouldn’t be surprised at the end of the year if his era is lower than Smoltz, in addition to him already having a better WHIP and strike out to walk ratio,

Oh and then there’s a few very important statistics that i didn’t include in the numbers above: Games started and Innings pitched. Smoltz has been injured this year and has ONLY PITCHED 28 INNINGS and started just 5 games. Webb, on the other hand has been healthy this year and has made 25 starts and pitched 139 innings. Did mention complete games? Smolts has grand total of zero, while Webb already has two with a shut out.

So not only is Webb younger than Smoltz, but he’s a lot cheaper and a better pitcher. Yeah, trading the two is a great idea, just like trading Eric Byrnes for Josh Hamilton is a good idea for the Texas Rangers.

If you think it’s a great trade for the Braves, then you are one hundred percent correct in your thinking. And I’m sure that’s likely your thinking with Teixeira. This a Diamondbacks website though, and that kind of thinking doesn’t work here. We’re open to trade suggestions that actually work for both teams, but we’re not going to hear it if you’re going to suggest lopsided deals with little to no benefit for the Diamondbacks. If you’re going to keep on doing that, go back to Talking Chop. I’m sure they’ll agree with you on all your trade ideas there.

Dear Josh Byrnes: Please DFA Chris Burke. He can't hit, and probably never will.

by Zephon on Jul 26, 2008 12:42 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Bravo

I got nothing to add.

Knock off the hippie crap, strap on a helmet, and start shooting. This is baseball, Diamondbacks, I want you to storm that beach like it's Normandy!

by soco on Jul 26, 2008 2:19 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Yawn.

Thank you very much for your information. I appreciate the fact that you went to this much effort to try and prove me wrong but you wasted your time. If you had been involved in the intial discussion over at TC you would have already noticed what my stance was on the trade. But you weren’t. So you don’t. So please don’t put words in my mouth.

I’m not an idiot. I understand that trading a future HOFer who is on the wrong side of 40 for a proven ace who isn’t even 30 is stupid. The discussion ends right there. I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS TRADE WOULD NEVER HAPPEN. Is that not enough? The contracts…I understand that too. Another reason why this trade would ever happen. But what I ask is, do you even remember how this whole things came up? Someone over on TC brought up the idea, and then it was several members of this blog that came over to our blog and started the discussion. I cannot speak for the entire TC community but all I was doing was pointing out to your friends that Smoltz, even at this age, is just as good if not better than Brandon Webb. I wasn’t even talking about the trade, b/c I knew it was stupid to begin with. I was merely trying to show you that Smoltz is better than a “good pitcher”. And one last thing…quoting statistics for this season, after Smoltz has already been shut down, proves nothing.

If you really want to get a clue you would click here and actually read the original dialogue. About halfway down the page. Can’t miss it.

I guess I should be one to talk.
There's nights that I can't even walk.
There's days I couldn't give a fuck.
And in between is where I'm stuck.

by Smoltz's Beard on Jul 28, 2008 9:20 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Haha...

...my goodness, as I’m re-reading the original thread I see that I must have been in a pissy mood that day. Regardless, it’s a pretty good read and it does convey my point…which was that Smoltz and Webb were both top notch starters for the past 3 seasons, and that there wasn’t this massive discrepancy like some Arizona fans would lead you to believe.

I guess I should be one to talk.
There's nights that I can't even walk.
There's days I couldn't give a fuck.
And in between is where I'm stuck.

by Smoltz's Beard on Jul 28, 2008 9:29 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

you weren't a smiling ball of sunshine

but it happens :-)

formerly Seton Hall Snake Pit. The newer simpler version.

by AJforAZ on Jul 28, 2008 9:32 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Now here’s a familiar face! Good to see you again.

I guess I should be one to talk.
There's nights that I can't even walk.
There's days I couldn't give a fuck.
And in between is where I'm stuck.

by Smoltz's Beard on Jul 28, 2008 10:19 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

There!

That’s the friendly visiting fan of Smoltz’s Beard that we know and like. :-)

by Jim McLennan on Jul 28, 2008 5:08 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Hey Jim. Sorry I was spitting hot fire yesterday, but you defensive people on this board! Feel like I’m wearing the wrong gang colors or something.

Take care.

I guess I should be one to talk.
There's nights that I can't even walk.
There's days I couldn't give a fuck.
And in between is where I'm stuck.

by Smoltz's Beard on Jul 28, 2008 5:34 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I wasn't about past performance

You are right there wasn’t a huge discrepancy between the production from these two over the previous 3 years. But when you are proposing a trade, all that matters is what happens going forward. And when AGE, and future projections were taken into account, PLUS the contracts and years of control…....it was always a silly proposal. Sorry.

by shoewizard on Jul 28, 2008 5:21 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Listen man…take the time to actually read the link I posted before you come back at me and act like you know more than I do. If you can find somewhere in the entire thread where I said that it was a fair trade I’ll shut my mouth. But you won’t.

You’re 3 months too late.

I guess I should be one to talk.
There's nights that I can't even walk.
There's days I couldn't give a fuck.
And in between is where I'm stuck.

by Smoltz's Beard on Jul 28, 2008 5:31 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I read the thread

You missed the point then, AND now.

At least you are consistent. ;)

by shoewizard on Jul 28, 2008 5:57 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

No…you’re missing the point. I never once said that it was a fair trade. I never once even said that it was a trade in the realm of possibility. And now I’m done with you, because you weren’t even involved in the original discussion. I wasn’t even talking to you in the first place. So go pump your inferiority complex somewhere else.

I guess I should be one to talk.
There's nights that I can't even walk.
There's days I couldn't give a fuck.
And in between is where I'm stuck.

by Smoltz's Beard on Jul 29, 2008 9:00 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

CoJack for Teixeira

is crazy dumb. I’d hope, if something went down, that we wouldn’t move one of our starters either, but we probably wouldn’t have much of a choice.

Knock off the hippie crap, strap on a helmet, and start shooting. This is baseball, Diamondbacks, I want you to storm that beach like it's Normandy!

by soco on Jul 24, 2008 8:02 PM EDT   0 recs

Would you trade Tracy or Owings for Tex?

We discussed this all day at DBBP.

I probably would. Flags fly forever.

by shoewizard on Jul 24, 2008 11:07 PM EDT   0 recs

Yeah, I’d probably be okay with either of those.

"Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so."

by kishi on Jul 24, 2008 11:15 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Owings yeah

I guess Tracy. He’s been good recently, so I’d hate to see his bat go, especially for a guy that probably won’t stick around beyond the season.

Knock off the hippie crap, strap on a helmet, and start shooting. This is baseball, Diamondbacks, I want you to storm that beach like it's Normandy!

by soco on Jul 24, 2008 11:37 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Might be at the top

of his trade value right now, since he looks like an all-world player, like he’s returning to his 27-HR 2005 form.

Mark Reynolds: back to turning me gay.

by DbacksSkins on Jul 25, 2008 8:58 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I wouldn't really mind

keeping Tracy and getting another 1B. That is if his legs are OK. Let him move to RF and get some time there also. Let Upton come along a little slower and develop. He was struggling before the injury

by DiamondbacksWIn on Jul 25, 2008 10:08 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

flag fetish

Yes they do fly forever. Tracy’s raking at the plate right now and his knees are an ongoing concern. Chad is looking at $3.75M this year, $4.75M next year, and a $7M club option with a $1M buyout in 2010. I could be convinced to make that deal for Teixeira but I doubt Atlanta would.

by TAP on Jul 25, 2008 12:21 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Probably.

Mark Reynolds: back to turning me gay.

by DbacksSkins on Jul 25, 2008 8:56 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Yes

Now, please. Thanks.

Fire Bob Melvin

by nihil67 on Jul 25, 2008 2:42 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

What do you guys think...

...of the new trade that’s been brought up. Parker/Tracy for Tex?

I guess I should be one to talk.
There's nights that I can't even walk.
There's days I couldn't give a fuck.
And in between is where I'm stuck.

by Smoltz's Beard on Jul 25, 2008 9:43 AM EDT   0 recs

No

If I was making the trade, Parker wouldn’t even be on the table for discussion, especially for a rental player.

"Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so."

by kishi on Jul 25, 2008 10:25 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Pretty much what I thought. Not sure if you guys considering him your #1 prospect, but BP does and that’s who I normally go by. Either way, I certainly didn’t think that his name would enter the discussion.

What do you think? Tex & two possible draft picks for Tracy and Parker? One of those questions where are you willing to trade a top prospect for a guy who can help your chances of winning the division and making the playoffs?

I guess I should be one to talk.
There's nights that I can't even walk.
There's days I couldn't give a fuck.
And in between is where I'm stuck.

by Smoltz's Beard on Jul 25, 2008 10:38 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

They are not trading Parker for Tex

I don’t know why fans of other teams always feel compelled to go to some team’s board and suggest stupid trades.

And yes, I know Peter Gammons made this suggestion. He is senile. It’s not happening, and it’s not reasonable. So just stop.

What wold you think if you guys were in the race and Kelly Johnson got hurt and we came over to your board suggesting we trade Hudson to you guys for one of your everyday starting position players and your number one or two pitching prospect ?

by shoewizard on Jul 25, 2008 12:32 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Still no

I don’t think Tex is that huge an upgrade over Tracy, really, to make a massive difference in our chances, and that would basically mean trading our top prospect for a slight upgrade and two supplemental draft picks. No thanks.

"Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so."

by kishi on Jul 25, 2008 12:39 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

See…this is how you respond. Thank you. Pretty much dead on with what I thought when I first heard the “suggested stupid trade”.

I guess I should be one to talk.
There's nights that I can't even walk.
There's days I couldn't give a fuck.
And in between is where I'm stuck.

by Smoltz's Beard on Jul 25, 2008 12:59 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

No

There is no way Parker is or ever will be a part of the discussion for any trade. This is obviously just trade speculation floated by the sports writers. History has shown that this FO doesn’t let a lot of talk leak out in regards to any potential move they are going to make.

And besides all that, including Jarrod Parker in a trade would be just stupid. Once he reaches the majors, the Diamondbacks will control him for six year like any other player that comes up through the minors. And in Parker’s case, he has too much talent and potential for the Dbacks to essentially give him away for two months of control of a player that they have absolutely NO chance of signing to a long term contract.

Dear Josh Byrnes: Please DFA Chris Burke. He can't hit, and probably never will.

by Zephon on Jul 26, 2008 1:41 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

No.

A few months of Tex for one of our better pitching prospects?

Um, no.

Mark Reynolds: back to turning me gay.

by DbacksSkins on Jul 26, 2008 12:48 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

It seems

like ESPN really wants the Diamondbacks to make this trade. They want it so much that they’re willing to offer all kinds of suggestions about how it could be done. Is it just a really slow news cycle? They’re working awfully hard to make this trade.

"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson

by Scrbl on Jul 25, 2008 12:47 PM EDT   0 recs

That's odd since ESPN

probably can’t find Arizona on the map.

They must think our FO is REALLY that dumb.

Will Hope Prevail?

by unnamedDBacksfan on Jul 25, 2008 1:54 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm pretty sure

that Steve Phillips and Peter Gammons haven’t actually watched the D-Backs play. Their analysis looks like they read the stat sheets, looked at a list of the D-Back’s top prospects and wrote out a wish list of “interesting trades.”

And I really HOPE our front office isn’t that dumb.

"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson

by Scrbl on Jul 25, 2008 2:38 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

It doesn't make sense

To trade your best offensive player for someone who is not in100% shape. Even if this deal happens, would the Diamondbacks be able to keep him for next year. They still have hudson to deal with.
If they trade Jackson for Texeira you will still be in the same position. you trade a great bat for a great bat. you still have a missing piece.
There is to many facts to think about and so little time left in July. I just hope the Front Office to makes the right decision. On the other hand, I’m used to bonehad decisions.

It's not over until it's over

by hotchixsnake27 on Jul 25, 2008 3:08 PM EDT   0 recs

Tex is going to be

a $100M+ player this offseason. Given that we already have CJ and Tracy to fill that hole, if the team is willing to open the checkbook for a star they’d be better of going after C.C. Sabbathia.

Of course, that will never happen (especially in this post-Byrnes world), but I suppose a man can always dream about a Webb-Haren-Sabbathia rotation. sigh…

by dahlian on Jul 25, 2008 4:56 PM EDT   0 recs

Is Mark Teixeira REALLY that good?

I mean, I know he’s pretty good…. but, c’mon…....

I hate Scott Boras.

Mark Reynolds: back to turning me gay.

by DbacksSkins on Jul 26, 2008 12:52 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

THE ONLY WAY

we should trade for Tex is if we can arrange a reasonable extension before the trade is done. Then I’d be a bit more tempted to make the deal.

formerly Seton Hall Snake Pit. The newer simpler version.

by AJforAZ on Jul 25, 2008 5:10 PM EDT   0 recs

Rumors still flying on Yahoo sports blog

I hope it goes away soon. Here is the story:

Source: D’backs and Braves deep into Teixeira trade talk

By ‘Duk

While everyone is going agog over the Manny trade speculation that will most likely ultimately go nowhere, the wheeling and dealing for a much more attainable difference maker in Mark Teixeira is flying under the radar.

That could change quickly, though, because a front office source from another team interested in Teixeira