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Midseason Report: How did we get here?

And you may ask yourself - Where is that large automobile?
And you may tell yourself - This is not my beautiful house!
And you may tell yourself - This is not my beautiful wife!
And you may ask yourself - well...how did I get here?
  -- Talking Heads, Once in a Lifetime

I think there's no doubt that the first-half of the season has been largely disappointing for Diamondbacks' fans. While we would likely have taken a one-game lead in the division, if it had been offered us in Spring Training, the truth is that we were all hoping for the team to be better than the sub-.500 level, at which they currently sit. And if they reproduce their form from the start of May on going forward, we're looking at a 74-88 season. Yuck. So, what happened? Let's take a look: below you will find five things that worked, five things that haven't...and then five possible targets whom we can blame. :-)

What has worked

1. Dan Haren. Before the season, the five major projection systems put Haren at an ERA of anywhere between 3.62 and 4.11, with a WHIP no better than 1.19. Even the most optimistic of our SnakePit Nostradamuses, manphibian, would go no lower than 3.40  The reality has been much, much better: a first-half ERA of 2.72 with a WHIP below 0.96, the best in the National League - only he and Hamels have a stat there below 1.10. The haul we had to pay for him was undeniably steep. However thus far, he has been worth it. Now, if he can avoid the second-half fall-off [his ERA post-break last year was 1.80 runs higher than pre-break], Webb might have some competition for MVP this year.

2. Conor Jackson. There was some debate before the season whether Jackson could play full-time at first. The naysayers were proved correct - but only because Jackson stepped into the breach caused by Eric Byrnes' injury and has been playing right field, and doing a pretty decent job there. While merely leading the team in OBP and OPS. His defense at first did remain something of an issue, with some painful clunkers that ended up costing the team at least a couple of games. However, he had adapted well to the outfield: if he maybe hasn't turned in any Web Gems, he has played error-free baseball in 149 innings, and even managed an assist. Plus, did anyone think Jackson would be tied for the team lead in stolen-bases and triples at the All-Star break? His new-found speed this year has certainly been an asset.

3. Brandon Lyon. Let's compare the stats of Lyon this year against Valverde over the first-half of 2007:
Lyon 2008: ERA 2.43, WHIP 1.135, .243/.276/.382  = OPS .658, Save % = 82.6%
Valverde 2007: ERA 2.83, WHIP 1.143, .198/.286/.336 = OPS .622, Save % = 89.7%
Thus far, Lyon has proven himself to be an very acceptable replacement for Papa Grande - that he has fewer saves [19 vs. 26] is down largely to a shortage of chances: he has blown four opportunities, compared to three for Valverde at the same point. And the most recent one of those for War, was due to an unearned run. I think there's generally a much greater sense of calm when Lyon comes in; he's a lot less likely to walk opposing hitters [only seven in 37 innings] and that helps. At the moment, the Valverde trade looks solid for us, on Qualls alone, though Burke and Gutierrez are looking more like a waste of time.

4. Mark Reynolds' offense. On pace for 32 homers and 99 RBI, there's no doubting that Special K's bat is one of the most potent in the line-up. Of course, the flipside for Reynolds is a projected 189 strikeout season, which would leave the previous franchise record [145, by Troy Glaus in 2005] for dust, and rank equal-fourth on baseball's all-time list. Overall, Reynolds' OPS+ is basically unchanged on last year, at 111 compared to 110, but it is worth remembering that he is only 24, so Mark is still on the right side of the aging curve. What we see is likely what we will get going forward - lots of homers, lots of K's. Though I note that he is also tied with Jackson for the team lead in walks, having matched his BB total from last season, in 25 fewer games.

5. Augie Ojeda. A special mention goes to the Littlest Ballplayer, who without the benefit of regular playing time, has posted an on-base percentage of .381, second only to Jackson. I guess having the Littlest Strikezone probably helps there. :-) However, he has also driven in a career-high fifteen runs already, though he's never going to hit for much power - his SLG is thirty points below his OBP! You've got to be happy with a bench player who bats .281, has two errors in 242 innings and can play second, short or third. Add in his undeniable hustle and cheerful attitude, no matter what Melvin may throw at him [he has hit everywhere in the order from first to ninth, except for fifth], and it's obvious why Ojeda is a huge fan favorite.

What has not worked

1. Randy Johnson. If you can't think of a better way to spend $26m than what we've got out of the Big Unit in the past season and a half, you're not trying: and yes, "hookers and blow," would be an acceptable answer. Pro-rated, the ten wins he's given us to date have cost $20.6 million. Anyone think the Petit Unit couldn't have done that for one-fortieth of the cost? For Petit's career ERA of 4.57 is better than the 4.71 posted by Johnson since his return to the desert. There have, I admit, been flashes of brilliance by Johnson, who can still turn in performances reminiscent of the dominant pitcher who'll be going into the Hall of Fame on the first ballot. However, for the amount we're paying him, I want that almost every start.

2. The outfield offense. This could easily be three-fifths of the list, but picking apart Byrnes, Young and Upton individually would get repetitive. From left to right therefore: Eric has, literally, been hamstrung. The $30m contract is currently looking Ortiz-like in its wisdom. Meanwhile, Chris Young and Justin Upton have got worse each month. Here is the production, as measured by OPS, from our Opening Day outfield trio:

Month Byrnes Young Upton
April .814 .790 .926
May .477 .778 .776
June Inj .602 .520
July Inj. .484 Inj.

Any questions? We now have two-thirds of our outfield players with little or no experience, while Chris Young's discipline has evaporated entirely. He took 17 walks by the end of April, but has just seven since May 28, in 181 plate-appearances, with 41 strikeouts.

3. The running game. The most obvious measure of this is stolen-bases, and we have only 31 collectively there. Four players [Taveras, Bourn, Pierre and Reyes] have more than that. Worse is the 66% success-rate when we try. Compare last season where, after 95 games, we had stolen 46 bases, at a 79.3% rate of success. The biggest part of this is down to the loss of Eric Byrnes, who had 22 of those SBs; this year, his hamstrings limited him to just four. But Mark Reynolds and Conor Jackson leading the team? That's just wrong.  Equally as bad has been the performance on the base-paths generally, where the team has been positively schizophrenic: some days, we've been "aggressive" to the point of psychopathy, while on others, we've been far too cautious. We've wandered off second, been picked off first and ran into needless outs; when the offense is struggling, that's the last thing we need.

4. Mark Reynolds' defense. Let's not particularly pick on Mark; the infield defense has generally been poor. Jackson at first was previously documented, but Hudson is already only two short of his error total for all of last season, with an RF that's continuing it's downward trend [from 5.48 in 2006, to 4.91 last season, and now 4.78 thus far]. Drew's range has also dropped, though his error total is on pace to be a little better than 2007. That can't be said for Reynolds, however; his error total matches his HR total to date, and he's looking good to set a franchise-worst mark in the former category. It's infuriating, since he is also occasionally capable of making brilliant plays: seems at times that he is guilty of thinking too much, when has time to make the play. His three-error game - two in the ninth inning - last week against the Nationals is one that will live with me for quite some time.

5. The bench. Nobody said that coming late into a game was easy; there are only four players in the majors with 25+ PH at-bats, and an average better than .273. But overall, Arizona pinch-hitters have only two homers and an OPS of .635. In contrast, 2007 saw 12 homers and an OPS of .782. [And in case you're wondering: no, Tony Clark was not our best man there. Miguel Montero had a line of .350/.391/.850, with three homers in twenty at-bats. We're still waiting for Miggy to go deep for the first time, in any situation, this season.] Part of this is down to roster construction, that's for sure; but outside of one at-bat, the "Owings as PH" experiment has also been a dismal failure. When he is combined with Chris Burke and Montero, the trio are 5-for-37 off the bench. The near-mystical ability to generate a run when needed was part of our success in one-run games this year; the inability to do the same is now part of the problem.

Who is responsible?

1. The players. On-field performance starts with the players, naturally. This does remain a young team - our hitters are the youngest in the National League. Looking at the standings, it certainly doesn't seem that they are showing the hoped-for improvements this season.  However, Snyder, Jackson, Hudson, Reynolds, Drew and Upton have all posted a better OPS+ this year than last. Here are the figures for the team collectively through the first 95 games of this season and last:
  2007: .249/.316/.400 = OPS .716, 389 runs scored, 419 runs allowed
  2008: .249/.323/.406 = OPS .729, 420 runs scored, 416 allowed
So, the team is getting on base slightly better, with more power and scoring more runs this season than last, while allowing about the same number. Will they kick things up a notch, as they did in the second-half of 2007? And can those players who struggled, turn things around? These are likely to be the big questions, whose answers determine whether this team goes on into the playoffs.

2. The coaches. With a young roster, such as the Diamondbacks have, the coaches play a particularly important role in getting the best out of the players. I have to question whether they have been doing that, going by the lack of improvement, even in the basics such as base-running and throwing - which, I'd have said, they should have arrived in the majors, knowing how to do. I know a few players, such as Reynolds and Upton, skipped Triple-A and came straight to the majors, so I would expect them to be somewhat less polished. We don't know what's going on behind the scenes, of course. Still, it has been all too painfully obvious that, in many respects, this is not a fundamentally-sound team, and I don't get the feeling that much has been done to correct it - or, if it has, the results have been unimpressive.

3. The manager. From Manager of the Year to...? If Melvin gets the credit for the 90 wins last year, doesn't it seem plausible that, with much the same roster, just a year more experienced, and a better run-differential, he should carry the can for this season's failings? This team now needs to go 43-24 over the second-half, even to match the 2007 record - if you feel confident that we can do that, you're a bigger optimist than I. While we, again, don't know how much good he is doing behind the scenes, there is a lot to criticize regarding his on-game management. Lineup construction that appears to involve maximizing at-bats for those least prepared to use them [Drew, Young and even Burke hitting lead-off?]; a fondness for sacrificing good hitters; poor choice of relievers. I am hard pushed to think of many games where Melvin's decisions have been the key to victory; I don't have to look far for cases where the opposite has been true.

4. The GM. Here's a theoretical line-up, consisting entirely of players who were in the organization when Josh Byrnes took over the team, in October 2005. I've also included their OPS+ figure for this season, and the salary they're earning this year - as well as the regular 2008 incumbent, their OPS and salary.

Pos
Potential OPS+ Salary Actual OPS+ Salary
C Snyder 100 $1.9m Snyder 100 $1.9m
1B Jackson 119 $420K Jackson 119 $420K
2B Uggla 157 $417K Hudson 110 $6.25m
3B Reynolds 112 $397K Reynolds 111 $397K
SS Drew 90 $1.5m Drew 94 $1.5m
LF Gonzalez 99 $390K Byrnes 64 $6.67m
CF Hairston 119 $406K Young 78 $406K
RF Quentin 136 $400K Upton 102 $393K

Note in particular the lines in italics: at half of the non-pitching positions, we have traded [and in some cases, given] away players who would be a significant improvement in our offensive performance, between 34 and 47 points of OPS+ better. And, overall, they would also be paid about twelve million dollars less this season. Now, you can't expect every move to be gold. Still... I think it's safe to say that things could have turned out a great deal better, and you have to question what is going on at Chase, in terms of player assessment and development.

5. The owners. ""I was shocked when Jeff called me in. I didn’t think anything would happen. After the discussions in Milwaukee, I really thought that I was going to play the rest of the season out and I was going to end up in a different uniform next year... So anyhow, I went in there and Jeff and I talked it out like two grown men would." [Link] Would we be where we are today, had Moorad not offered $30m to Eric? Might Quentin be smacking all those homers out of Chase, rather than in Chicago? Instead we have our man sitting on the DL, with a full no-trade clause and no idea if he'll ever be half-way effective again. Plus, this isn't the first time Moorad has been involved in a deal that turned out very questionable. He was Shawn Green's agent before he came to AZ, with an extension that blocked Quentin. And who were the first free-agents signed on Moorad's watch? Troy Glaus and Russ Ortiz...

The truth is, very likely a little bit from all of the above; none of the groups mentioned above have managed to cover themselves in glory with their performances this year, and all likely have a share in responsibility for what has transpired. I'm keen to hear, over the All-Star break, how people here view our current situation, and who they hold responsible for it.

Poll
Who do you hold MOST responsible for the current issues with the team?
  • The coaches
  • The GM
  • The manager
  • The owners
  • The players

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Haren

To be really fair, all of the projections were full-season projections. It’s not hard to look at Haren’s recent history and notice a significant downturn in the second half.

Fire Bob Melvin. Fire A.J. Hinch. Eric Byrnes Sucks.

by nihil67 on Jul 14, 2008 11:00 AM EDT   0 recs

What else has not worked

I think one of the larger issues to date has to also be Micah Owings. In fact, I’d put his struggles above those of the bench and maybe even Reynolds’ defense.

Watching his approach and pitch selection, it’s no surprise that his walk rate is up and his line-drive rate is up. “Ineffective on the plate” is how I’d sum it up.

There is some evidence with a 4.25 FIP (vs. 5.02 ERA) that defense may be causing some of his issues. A .298 BABIP isn’t really all that bad when you, again, couple it to a live scouting report. I think the question has to be posed: Can he develop his change or is he going to end up in the bullpen?

Fire Bob Melvin. Fire A.J. Hinch. Eric Byrnes Sucks.

by nihil67 on Jul 14, 2008 11:37 AM EDT   0 recs

RJ

I think that Johnson has turned a corner recently and we may see better numbers over the 2nd half of the season. Not Webb or Haren numbers but more like his last 2 or 3 outings.

by DiamondbacksWIn on Jul 14, 2008 12:55 PM EDT   0 recs

There are some numbers to support this

First, a .344 BABIP. That’s fairly high. His FIP currently sits at 4.04, almost a run and a quarter lower per 9 than his ERA of 5.23. His K rate, while not being in line with his career, is decent at 8.72/9. BB rate is good at 2.57/9.

Randy’s starts have been pretty night and day so far. When he’s on, he’s ok (bordering on good). When he’s off, it’s just bad.

There are 2 things working against him. First, age. I just can’t expect a 44 year old guy to improve as the season goes along. Second, well… age. I would have to rate the injury risk with Randy somewhere between “better than average” and “likely”.

Fire Bob Melvin. Fire A.J. Hinch. Eric Byrnes Sucks.

by nihil67 on Jul 14, 2008 1:19 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Why isn't...

...a simple “yes” an answer to the poll question?

by Red Reign on Jul 14, 2008 1:50 PM EDT   0 recs

The GM

I would be interested in seeing two polls. The first, listing all of Byrnes’ trades and having multiple choices asking, “Which of these trades ended up being good?” The second, exactly like the first, but instead asking, “Which of these trades ended up being bad?” It’d be even better if you could double-poll asking if you thought the trade was good at the time it happened.

A short look at his trades:

Acquired C Johnny Estrada from the Atlanta Braves in exchange for RHPs Lance Cormier and Oscar Villarreal. – Estrada was decent for a short while before he turned into a massive pit of nothing. Villarreal was decent for the Braves, but never really recovered from the beating he took his rookie year. Slight edge to Schuerholz.

Acquired RHP Orlando Hernandez, RHP Luis Vizcaino and OF Chris Young from the White Sox in exchange for Javier Vazquez and cash considerations. – I lean this one to Byrnes, even with Young not progressing. Vazquez demanded the trade and Byrnes was able to still get decent value for him. In fact, this may be Byrnes’ best trade.

Acquired RHP Miguel Batista and 2B Orlando Hudson from the Blue Jays in exchange for 3B Troy Glaus and SS Sergio Santos. – I’m not fit to judge this one. I’ll maintain that Byrnes didn’t get anything near value for Glaus. Others will say the opposite. Hudson has been good here with the bat, even if the glove fell off pretty quick. I’ll give it to Byrnes just to avoid the argument.

Acquired 2B Alberto Callaspo from the Angels for RHP Jason Bulger. – At the time, this looked decent. Callaspo never learned how to hit and was spun off for Billy Buckner. Bulger did nothing. -Byrnes.

Acquired RHP Jeff Bajenaru from the Chicago White Sox in exchange for INF Alex Cintron. – Bajenaru = worthless. Cintron still floats around the league as a capable backup and performed decently in the role the Sox needed him in. -Williams.

Acquired RHP Juan Cruz from the Oakland Athletics in exchange for LHP Brad Halsey. – Byrnes, 100%.

Acquired RHP Jorge Julio from the New York Mets in exchange for RHP Orlando Hernandez. – Neither did anything here. Julio gets spun into Petit. Hernandez goes on to be pretty effective with the Mets. -Minaya by a hair, but Byrnes if you look at what Julio turns into.

Acquired RHP Livan Hernandez and cash considerations from the Washington Nationals in exchange for nonroster RHP Garrett Mock and nonroster LHP Matt Chico. – Ugh. Hernandez clogs up the rotation while two decent prospects go to Rizzo/Bowden… and do pretty much nothing. Tie if not very slightly to Byrnes.

Traded OF Shawn Green and cash to the Mets in exchange for Minor League LHP Evan MacLane. – There is no winning in a trade involving Shawn Green.

Acquired RHP Abe Woody from the Cincinnati Reds in exchange for INF/OF Jerry Gil. – I just don’t know where this one came from. Drunk dial/trading, perhaps? Still, Woody remains in our system, so I’ll give the win to Byrnes.

Acquired LHP Doug Davis, LHP Dana Eveland and OF David Krynzel from Milwaukee for RHP Greg Aquino, C Johnny Estrada and RHP Claudio Vargas. – Loved this trade then, love this trade now. Byrnes.

Acquired LHP Randy Johnson and cash from the New York Yankees in exchange for RHP Luis Vizcaino, RHP Ross Ohlendorf, RHP Steven Jackson and INF Alberto Gonzalez – Uh oh… the wheels start coming off the cart starting here. Yeah, Randy is Randy, but did this trade really need to be made? Cashman.

Acquired RHP Yusmeiro Petit from the Marlins for RHP Jorge Julio and cash. – The “and cash” part still hurts mildly, but Petit was worth it. There’s still plenty of time for him to develop. Byrnes.

Acquired RHP Leo Rosales from the San Diego Padres in exchange for OF Scott Hairston – “WTF?” is still my response. The best part about this trade was that Rosales was injured at the time it happened. Towers.

Acquired RHP Emiliano Fruto from the Nationals in exchange for 1B Chris Carter. – The jury is still out on Fruto, but the timing of this trade made no sense (right before September call-ups)... especially when you look at what happened next. – Bowden

Acquired IB Chris Carter from the White Sox in exchange for OF Carlos Quentin. – Ugh. When Byrnes sours on a guy, he does it loud and he does it proud. The cost of not trading Quentin and seeing how his shoulder healed? Nothing. Williams by a country mile.

Acquired RHP Billy Buckner from the Kansas City Royals in exchange for INF Alberto Callaspo. – In my mind, exchanging an underperforming middle infielder for a starter prospect is a decent trade. Buckner is well regarded by scouts, but seems to have mental issues. I still call this one in Byrnes’ favor.

Acquired RHP Dan Haren and RHP Connor Robertson from the Oakland Athletics in exchange for LHP Brett Anderson, LHP Dana Eveland, LHP Greg Smith, INF Chris Carter, OF Aaron Cunningham and OF Carlos Gonzalez. – There are two ways, and will probably always be two ways, of looking at this one. I personally believe that this trade details the short-comings of the Diamondbacks scouting and player development departments. Haren is good, I will not discount that. However, look at the bucket of talent given up. Eveland is playing way over his head, but the rest of these guys were and still are solid prospects/players. How awesome would it be to still have CarGon and Quentin? Yeah, who’d be pitching? I don’t know… Greg Smith? I call this a tie, but could slip into Beane’s favor in the next few years based on how some of these guys develop.

Acquired RHP Chad Qualls, RHP Juan Gutierrez and OF Chris Burke from the Houston Astros in exchange for RHP Jose Valverde. – I was happy with this at the time, but that was when Qualls was good and Gutierrez looked like a decent prospect. More issues with coaching/player development? Who knows. -Astros right now.

It’s a resume… I can’t decide if it’s a good one or not. I don’t think it’s bad.

Fire Bob Melvin. Fire A.J. Hinch. Eric Byrnes Sucks.

by nihil67 on Jul 14, 2008 2:14 PM EDT   0 recs

thanks

Great stuff here, nihil. It’s really helpful to see it all laid out there. A few quibbles:
1) I realize that you’re dealing with trades here, but I think Byrnes’ worst move was his first: allowing Uggla to be dropped into the rule 5 draft. Of course, since he had just come on board, he shouldn’t be killed for it.
2) The Hairston and Quentin moves still baffle me.
3) I’ve got to admit I was wrong on the Valverde trade. I liked it a lot at the time, but Qualls sure has not been as advertised.

"There are only two seasons: winter and baseball"
-- Bill Veeck

by njjohn on Jul 15, 2008 7:24 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Trades only for this round

It would have taken pages to look at every roster move made. It would be fun to bash on the low-lights though, wouldn’t it? :)

Fire Bob Melvin. Fire A.J. Hinch. Eric Byrnes Sucks.

by nihil67 on Jul 15, 2008 9:46 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I'll be the contrarian on Jackson

Few people have gone to bat for CJ more than I have over the years. But I have my concerns about him. Like the rest of the team he peaked in Mid April.

On April 18th, in his first 14 games, (16 team games) he was hitting .364/.473/.750 1.223 OPS with 2 doubles, 3 triples and 3 homers in 55 PA’s, 44 AB. While nobody expected him to keep up THAT kind of pace, it looked like he was finally ready to break out. But since then….........

Over his next 70 games, 295 PA’s he has hit .290/.371/.409 .780 OPS 12 DB, 2 TP, 5 HR

The BA and OBP are still good, and I certainly don’t want to devalue his good OBP, especially in our lineup with all the strikeout kings. However, that .409 Slugging, and .119 ISO is really just not good enough. I don’t need to see him hit 30 homers to feel he has value. But remember when he was talking about hitting 50 doubles? CJ has just 14 doubles and is on pace for just 24.

Since he has been moved to LF, he is filling the gaping hole left by Byrnes, and overall, we can’t really complain. And he has made progress in every other facet of his game, like Jim pointed out. He is the least of this team’s problems. But somehow, I find myself wanting, and expecting just a bit more in the power department.

His OPS+ since 2006

2006- 103
2007- 110
2008- 118 YTD

But if he does not reverse the power outage we have seen for the last 70 games, which is a pretty big slice of the season, that 118 will keep dropping. CJ has been a second half player the last couple of years. Lets hope he kicks it back in gear again. He showed signs of it the last couple of days, driving a couple balls better. I don’t doubt that he can….....but…................. WE’RE WATING!!!

by shoewizard on Jul 14, 2008 2:18 PM EDT   0 recs

What has worked

Slightly off topic but the new site layout has been awesome and generally the pit has just been great, some awesome gameday threads and topics for debate :) :thup:

On the field I’ll throw my support behind Doug Davis who after everything he’s been through has still has a 3.80 ERA through 12 starts. Quality output if you ask me even if he is only 3-4.

I don’t really want to dwell on the downside as it’s been discussed enough :(

So...time for another drink then?

by Wimb on Jul 14, 2008 4:38 PM EDT   0 recs

Lyon has been a nice surprise this year

I really didn’t see Lyon as a closer when we started the season – I thought it would only be weeks before we saw Pena in that role. I was absolutely wrong – Lyon has far exceeded my expectations first half of the season.

The thing that is so disappointing here at the all-star break is how horrible we are considering how we started the season.

Changes are needed or this team won’t make the play-offs.

by dstorm on Jul 14, 2008 6:41 PM EDT   0 recs

in response to what we could have spent that money on other than RJ, the only problem with hookers and blow is that it might hurt our teams playing even more, and we dont need that. but we could afford approximately 38 augie ojedas, and that could be useful

I find your lack of faith disturbing...

by utahdbacksfan on Jul 15, 2008 12:01 AM EDT   0 recs

I kinda automatically thought of the

oompa loompas from the remake…just because they are the same person with different voices.
:-)

Two days later, Eric Byrnes missed three games for excessive crying, and started listening to emo. At the same time, Emily changed her name to emilylovesthedbacksexceptthatloserericbyrnes.

by emilylovesthedbacks on Jul 15, 2008 2:46 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Most responsible? Manager

Players get their problems helped by coaches per the direction of the manager. While it is ultimately the player’s responsibility to improve, being practicly coached into how-to-lose mode comes from the manager.

GM/Owners make the call but one hopes the opinion of their award-winning manager woud be in the loop most of the time. They make the call, i’ll give him a pass on this one.

The coaches do what they can but it is the manager that calls the team-wide drills on the fundimentals. The ones we arn’t doing till its too late.

Melvin is a good clubhouse coach/manager. He is not a good in-game or directing manager. This man is an excelent XO type but does not, in my opinion, have the full Captain’s spark.

Bob Melvin: Black Denarian in disguise.

by nargel on Jul 15, 2008 3:48 AM EDT   0 recs

managers in the system...

...I’d be interested if anyone has any strong feelings on our minor league managers/coaching staffs. What are their strengths? Weaknesses? Are we hurting at the MLB level now b/c of an organizational weakness in teaching in the minors?

"There are only two seasons: winter and baseball"
-- Bill Veeck

by njjohn on Jul 15, 2008 7:27 AM EDT   0 recs

Organizational Weakness

I honestly don’t know and could probably never know enough about the systems to know which minor league coaches are good or not… but I know who should, and that’s AJ Hinch, the Director of Player Development.

Fire Bob Melvin. Fire A.J. Hinch. Eric Byrnes Sucks.

by nihil67 on Jul 15, 2008 9:54 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I’ve been trying for 2 days to write something substantive about this and I just don’t have the energy. Hooray for Augie (who’s been my favorite D-Back this year), Dan Haren, Brandon Lloyd and Conor Jackson. Boo for the team’s lackluster effort.

I do have one thought on Carlos Quentin: while he was a D-Back, Quentin’s biggest problems seemed to be mental. He had a lot of talent, but he didn’t know how to use it. Mental problems are exactly the kind of problems that the D-Backs haven’t been able to overcome. While the new and improved Carlos Quentin would be a great asset for the D-Backs, I’m not sure he would have developed had he remained with the team.

"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson

by Scrbl on Jul 15, 2008 8:13 PM EDT   0 recs

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