Changes
by JUPTON10 on Jun 9, 2008 7:22 PM EDT
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The Diamondbacks have really been underperforming lately. With this in mind I think we have to make a few changes.
1. Call Up Emilio Bonifacio the speedster prospect has been known to play second base but can also play LF. If we could put him in left field he could hit in the lead off spot and provide a real spark for our offense. Who could forget his lead off double against the dodgers last season on a routine groundball to the center fielder? Not to mention the insane amount of stolen bases he has put up in the minors. (topping out at 61). He could give us the true leadoff hitter we hyave been lacking, and give us a decent replacement for Byrnes while he is out. What are we thinking putting Chris Burke out there? However the organization may already be one step ahead, as I have noticed that he has been getting a lot of time in LF over the last few weeks.
2.Trade Doug Davis I'm sorry, I know he had cancer and all, but he is the weakest link on this team and everybody knows it. What makes it even worse is the fact that we have a top prospect who is a better long-term and short-term option in Max Scherzer. Scherzer had a 2.21 era putting up quite a few impressive starts including against the Chicago Cubs. If we could flip over Double D for maybe a decent pitching prospect and a very young hitting prspect who is a few years away from the majors to a pitching desperate team, that woulld be a successful trade. It could potentially help us for the short term and definitely the long term. PS. If we do not trade davis, then we need to send down scherzer. Spending time in the bullpen ios severely stunting his growth as a pitcher.
3. Be More Agressive On the Basepaths The Arizona diamondbacks are towards the bottom of the league in stolen bases. But its not like we dont have the potentisl to steal them. Chris Young has proven that he could steal bases putting up 27 last season. Stephen Drew, Orlando Hudson, Mark Reynolds, and maybe even CoJack have the speed to steal somewher between 10-15 bases a year. And Justin Upton has unreal speed but for some reason never is sent to steal. Especially when your offense is not producing like ours hasnt, you need to play small ball and move our runners over into scoring position. If we do that then we could start getting a few more runs to support our pitching staff.
4. Trade Odawg Obviously not now, but at the trade deadline, I think that it is imperative to our organization that we trade hudson. It is very likely that we will lose him after the year is over anyways, due to the demands of money that he is making, and bonifacio waiting in the wings so why not get some value out of him. We could probably get a lot of prospects from a team like the White Sox who have voiced a need to make changes and are very weak at second base. We could probably get some high level pitching and hitting prospects this would help us in the long term and would probably not hurt us all that bad in the short term, with bonifacio taking over. Also, for thos who say that we would get a good compensation pick out of him anyway, next year is supposed to be one of the worst draft classes in decades do I dont know how much a compensation pick could help us.
Change around the Batting Order I really dont understand what BoMel has been doing with the batting order lately. Here's what I think our team line-up and pitching rotation should look like for now:
- Bonifacio LF
- Hudson 2B
- Young CF
- CoJack 1B
- Reynolds 3B
- Upton RF
- Drew SS
- Snyder C
- Pitcher
Pitching staff.....
- Webb
- Haren
- Randy
- Owings
- Scherzer
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Yikes
Seems like an awful lot of changes for a team in the beginning of June. I realize they have played quite badly over the past month, but give them some time. I don’t think it’s time to blow up the team.
by bcloirao on Jun 9, 2008 8:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well.....
I see your point, but I dont exactly think that we are blowing up the team. We don’t exactly have a starting LF as of now, so calling up Bonifacio is not exactly a huge transaction. While trading Davis is a much bigger move I think that this move is the most neccessary one, as not only is Davis hurting our team playing wise, bt he is a huge salary that we do not need to be dealing with. In Hudson’s case it says that we should wait until the trade deadline before a move, but obviously if we play significantly better and start to look like a playof team this move doesn’t become so neccessarry.
Aalso, something to keep in mind. This team has not won a game since My 25, pitched by someone other than Webb or Haren.
by JUPTON10 on Jun 9, 2008 8:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And who exactly are we going to be getting
trading away O-Dawg and Davis? Shaq?
The team would only want to trade him if it became obvious they couldn’t sign him and if they didn’t have a replacement, or if we dropped off the map and weren’t in contention. You want ship out one of our bedrocks? Why?
Like it or not, Davis is a part of the rotation to stay. Scherzer is a guy that I think the organization would love to start, but everything I’ve ever read on the guy is about how they intend him to be a reliever. So him being in the bullpen is the exact opposite of stunting his career.
It’d be nice if they were more aggressive on stealing bases, but it’s just not going to happen.
We’re all anxious but let’s not go crazy here calling for completely dismantling the team.
"D'backs" means seatbelts! "D'backs" means crash positions!
by soco on Jun 9, 2008 9:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
More infield and outfield practice is what we need. We have lost at least a half a dozen games due to the bush D that we have been playing.
O-Dawg has probably been our best all around position player so far this year.
by foulpole on Jun 9, 2008 9:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Bonifacio
I know that you all think these moves are rash but I think that they are completely neccessary. But on another note, do u atleast agree that we should call up emilio bonifacio to play LF until Byrnes is back. This guy is an exciting player that I feel, can help jumstart our offense.
“He’s as intriguing a player as we have because of his sheer athleticism. He’s in a good spot because he could literally cover any type of injury in the big leagues. That’s not to say another outfielder or infielder wouldn’t be considered, but he’s your perfect call-up.”—Director of player development A.J. Hinch on infielder/outfielder Emilio Bonifacio.
“There are few players in the Minors more exciting than this second baseman/shortstop/outfielder/whatever- you-need-him-to-be. Between his super-utility abilities and his super-speed, once Bonifacio comes up, it will be hard to keep him down.”—milb.com
by JUPTON10 on Jun 9, 2008 10:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
To me, E-Bone sure looked over matched at the plate when he was called up late last year. Why is he that much better right now?
by foulpole on Jun 9, 2008 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
FWIW, E-Bone was .217 /.333 /.261 and 0 for 1 in sbs for ‘07.
by foulpole on Jun 9, 2008 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
foulpole!
WE AGREE!!
Not that you’ll read this to know it….
Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.
by DbacksSkins on Jun 10, 2008 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Boni
.217? that sounds a lot better than Burke’s .176 and Romero’s .192. And Bonifacio is only getting better. That .217 btw was in only 25 AB. Although that time was limited he definitely, to me showed great flashes of potential. And now he is down in the minors, another year wiser, beating up on AAA pitching. As he is third in the PCL in hits and stolen base. Even after a horrid start to his season. Not to mention the fact that he lit up Major League pitching in spring training. It is signature play that gets me the most excited about him. His tendency to turn routine singles into doubles would help get our offense going in a snap. Emilio Bonifacio is exactly the spark that this uninspired team needs.
by JUPTON10 on Jun 9, 2008 10:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
"beating up on AAA pitching"
That’s a laugh.
What is it with fans falling in love with slap-hitting speedsters? Bonifacio has no power and no patience at the plate. The only way for him to be a productive player is to go the Juan Pierre-route and consistently hit over .320. In five season playing in a non-Lancaster park, this is the first season in which he’s hit over .300.
Even if he does have a “tendency to turn routing singles into doubles”, it comes at the expense of the ability to hit actual doubles. I’m not sure if you’ve noticed, but even though he’s third in the PCL in hits, he’s slugging .385. That’s only .081 points of isolated slugging. In a hitter’s park, in one of the biggest hitter’s league in all of the minors, Boni has hit only 11 doubles, four triples and one home run in 277 at bats – and that’s in his second go around of the league. Quite frankly, those are career pinch runner numbers. This is the reason why the team called up him up last September – not because they actually thought he could contribute with his bat.
Flat out, Bonifacio is not a better hitter than Alex Romero. Boni’s numbers last year and this year – .285 /.333/.352/.685 (551 AB), 304/.356/.385/.741 (273 AB)
Romero the last two years on the same team – .310/.354/.421/.775 (535 AB), .331/.374/.438/.812 (130 AB).
There’s no question who the better hitter is. If Bonifacio put up the same numbers in the MLB as he is putting up in AAA this year, he would still be a far below average player. Factor in the drop off from facing major league quality pitchers and that makes Emilio a replacement level player.
by dahlian on Jun 10, 2008 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
To be fair,
he’s supposed to be pretty good defensively, isn’t he?
Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.
by DbacksSkins on Jun 10, 2008 2:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Probably a bit early to press the panic button
I agree with being more aggresive on the basepaths but I can’t see DD or O-Dawg being traded nor do I think our recent woes have much to do with the batting order.
As for E-Bone? Well he’s young, raw, untested and likely to go through slumps as he learns….sounds kinda like most of the roster right now to be honest ;)
I’m just as frsutrated as everyone else is at the recent struggles but as has already been mentioned, this is the SAME TEAM by and large that A) Won the West last year B) Started this season in hot form and C) Is leading the NL West. :)
Ok we’re stuttering and it’s good to always look at ways to improve a team but in this case there really is no quick fix and if “he who shall not be named” has taught us anything at all is that quality doesn’t just dissapear :)
So...time for another drink then?
by Wimb on Jun 10, 2008 8:21 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Boni?
First of all, this is not Emilio’s second go round in the league. This is actually his first year playing in AAA. While this year was Alex Romero’s Third year in AAA. The first of which he hit .250 and was eventually sent down. But Bonifacio brings to us a unique dimension that the Diamondbacks have not seen since last season. The hustle that he puts in and the amount of excitement he brings with every plate appearance is, what I believe, is just what we need. Not to mention the fact that bonifacio will more than likely take over for ODawg next year at 2B so it cant really hurt to get him some time in left to get some at bats.
by JUPTON10 on Jun 10, 2008 12:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
also, if romero is so good, why did the Twins release him?
by JUPTON10 on Jun 10, 2008 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Remember
that the Twins also let David Ortiz sign with the Red Sox for peanuts.
Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.
by DbacksSkins on Jun 10, 2008 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Two thoughts.
1. If anything, Romero’s success in the PCL should help strengthen the argument that good hitting in the PCL does NOT necessarily translate to the bigs—and Bonny isn’t even THAT good a hitter in the PCL. He’s almost certainly never going to develop power, and I wouldn’t be too terribly upset about that except that his K rate is very high and his BB rate is very low. To have a chance to make the bigs and stay there, Bonny’s gonna need to raise his OBP SIGNIFICANTLY to make up any value lost in his lacking power. The steals are nice, but if he can’t get on base in the first place, there’s no point in talking about them.
2.
But Bonifacio brings to us a unique dimension that the Diamondbacks have not seen since last season. The hustle that he puts in and the amount of excitement he brings with every plate appearance is, what I believe, is just what we need.
That sounds an awful lot like the justification for resigning Eric Byrnes last year…
Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.
by DbacksSkins on Jun 10, 2008 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good point about the PCL
DIdn’t Andy Green absolutly rake?
So...time for another drink then?
by Wimb on Jun 10, 2008 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually yeah.
In fact, I was in the PCL last year and even I hit over .300.
Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.
by DbacksSkins on Jun 10, 2008 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Last I heard, Andy Greene is raking sand gardens. In Japan. ;-)
by foulpole on Jun 12, 2008 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually
He is now with the Reds, in their Triple-A affiliate. Batting .251, so the raking appears to have ceased…
by Jim McLennan on Jun 12, 2008 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He is now with the Reds, in their Triple-A affiliate. Batting .251, so the raking appears to have ceased…
There probably aren’t many sand gardens in Louisville. ;-)
by foulpole on Jun 12, 2008 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah,
Green was a 26 year old that magically put up a .900+ OPS in his first go around at AAA.
Not only was TEP a high-octane hitting environment in a high-octane hitting league, but oftentimes older players like Green are able to learn enough about their own swing and the tendency of minor league pitchers to be able to mash minor leaguers. Unfortunately, these tend to be adjustments that don’t translate much or at all the majors. The better pitchers and advanced scouting systems ensure that a fatal flaw doesn’t go long before being exposed.
Fortunately, Bonifacio is still young enough to raise hope. But many times, when you see a prospect repeat a level and put up a huge increase in their numbers, the gains end up being unsustainable.
Unfortunately, that means Bonifacio is now in his second go-around in the PCL and is still hitting like crap.
by dahlian on Jun 13, 2008 1:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My bad,
I was confusing Bonifacio with Romero.
This is Boni’s first go around at AAA. So he has that going for him. Of course, that’s the only positive thing in his favor above and beyond “he’s a second baseman” and “this team has no money left to give to Orlando Hudson”.
He’s going to need a Geovany Soto-esque transformation before I’d be comfortable even considering giving him a starting job.
by dahlian on Jun 13, 2008 1:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
take a close look at Greens gamelog from 2006
http://www.baseball-reference.com/pi/gl.cgi?n1=greenan01&t=b&year=2006
He was given ONE start in April, (4/17), He went 2 for 3 with a HR.
His next starts came 15 days later, on May 2nd and 4th, (back to back games) He went 2-5 with a walk, a sac bunt, and 2 runs scored.
His next start came May 24th, 20 days later, and he went 2-4 with a double and 3 RBI
Through the teams first 46 games, he was given exactly 4 starts, and he produced each time….....but over the rest of the season he received just 5 more starts, 3 of them in September.
Obviously he was not going to hit as well as he did at Tucson, and nobody ever said he would. Most people understand the difference between being 23 and 26 in AAA. Foulpole just likes to throw out the strawman argument using Andy Green as an example of why minor league stats don’t mean anything.
The fact is Andy Green was not given any sort of chance here in Arizona, and that was really a shame. He wouldn’t have been an all star, and may not have ever been a regular, but he could have done a fine job as the primary utility guy for few seasons. Instead we got to see Damion Easley for 90 games and 200 Plate Appearances…...and except for two magical days in Atlanta in June, Easley sucked in 2006. That was playing time that would have much better served the Diamondbacks if they had given it to Green.
And before anyone brings it up, he was injured last year in Japan. (Thumb and then back). The season was a wash out due to injury, plain and simple. It happens.
I don’t know if he’ll make it back to the majors at this point. But Andy Green could hit. Had he been given a proper chance, he would have shown that.
by shoewizard on Jun 13, 2008 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That sounds an awful lot like the justification for resigning Eric Byrnes last year…
yah it does… except Eric Byrnes cost 30 million for three years and emilio bonifacio costs the league minimum. Also to put things in perspective our team is 4-10 since byrnes went on the DL and we were 30-20 before hhe left. So why not try to bring back the excitement that Byrnes had by promoting Boni to fill his spot?
by JUPTON10 on Jun 10, 2008 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Byrnes wasn't exactly helping out the team before he went on the DL, remember?
I think you’re reading waaay too much into that record before and since. And you’re right, overpaying Eric Byrnes based on “intangibles” ISN’T the same as bringing up Bonny - but it represents the same type of thinking - “Oh, the fans need excitement, and games are won by intangibles. Nevermind actual baseball performance….”
It doesn’t matter what Bonny’s done SO FAR, just like it shouldn’t have mattered last year with Byrnes. What DOES matter is how you think they’ll perform going forward.
Don’t get me wrong, nobody would be happier than me to see Emilio get his fulltime chance. But I don’t want to see him in The Show until he’s proven that he’ll be more of a benefit to the big club than someone else currently on the roster.
Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.
by DbacksSkins on Jun 10, 2008 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Free Jamie D'Antona
1, Emilio Bonifacio sucks. Glove, hitting, baserunning. He is massively overrated in every way.
2, You couldn’t get a bag of balls for Davis right now. $7.75M this year and $8.75M next. I don’t think there’s a whole lot of motivated buyers just yet either. I do, however, agree that Scherzer should be in Tucson right now if they would like him to continue growing as a starter.
3, Amen. It would be interesting to find out if this was either Melvin putting on the red light or players not responding to a green light in fear of failure.
4, Where would you trade him? I can see the Indians and the Cardinals having a need… but he’s not locked up and he’s going to ask for a lot of the FA market.
Bob Melvin Sucks
by nihil67 on Jun 10, 2008 4:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
nihil67
“You couldn’t get a bag of balls for Davis right now. $7.75M this year and $8.75M next. I don’t think there’s a whole lot of motivated buyers just yet either.”
For some reason when the trade deadline comes around players values skyrocket. Remember when we traded for Livan Hernandez? He was only having an average year but when the trade deadline came around he became a hot commoddity. If we could get the value for DoubleD that the Nats got for Livo I would be very happy.
“Where would you trade him? I can see the Indians and the Cardinals having a need… but he’s not locked up and he’s going to ask for a lot of the FA market.”
Very similar to the Davis situation, where his value will skyrocket when the deadline comes around. Not to mention the fact that Hudson is actually a very good player regardless. I think that their will be a team wit a desperate enough need, like the Indians, at second base that will give us a load of young talent for him. Im not saying that we neccessarilly should do it but if we are put in a situation where we will not make the playoffs or are just blown away by an offer I say we do it. I would just hate to see Hudson leave us without getting any value for him.
by JUPTON10 on Jun 10, 2008 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
O-Dawg
We’ll definitely get something from O-Dawg, even if it is just the compensatory draft picks that we’ll get if he signs somewhere else as a free agent. I realize that draft picks are never a sure thing, but you have to weigh the tradeoff:
1.) Several decent minor league prospects (good to build for the future, don’t get me wrong, but are the prospects much more likely to pan out than draft picks?)
2.) This team is built to win now. (See: Dana Eveland, Car-Gon) An extra half season and playoffs with O-Dawg on the team is huge. Who would you rather have in the batters box (or the field for that matter) in a playoff game? Hudson or Bonifacio? He also provides the only non-Byrnesian veteran presence in the clubhouse, which has to count for something. Plus the draft picks, for building for the future.
I totally understand where you’re coming from—it would be rough to lose him at all, but I think the benefits of keeping him outweigh those of trading him in both the short and the long term.
by bcloirao on Jun 10, 2008 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Skyrocket
Please provide examples of this phenomenon. Looking back at last year, I see only this one:
Red Sox Acquired LHP Kason Gabbard, OF David Murphy and nonroster OF Engle Beltre from the Red Sox for RHP Eric Gagne and cash. There is a (not so) slight difference in initial value between Gagne and Davis. Gagne was tearing it up in Texas before he was traded.
How about this blockbuster: Twins traded 2B Luis Castillo to the Mets in exchange for C Drew Butera and CF Dustin Martin.
Bob Melvin Sucks
by nihil67 on Jun 10, 2008 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have been saying that we should be stealing more bases the entire season.
And I said we should try Emilio in left field a few days ago.
I do what I can, sometimes more, depends on the situation.
by srdmad on Jun 10, 2008 9:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I know you guys don't like Emilio that much,
but do you really think he would be worse than Burke in the leadoff spot?
I do what I can, sometimes more, depends on the situation.
by srdmad on Jun 10, 2008 9:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Bonifacio can't hit lefties
Look it up.
Yes…he would be even worse than Burke against lefties.
by shoewizard on Jun 10, 2008 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's not a question of "liking" Emilio or not.
It’s a question of him being able to hit major league pitching, and right now, I don’t think he can.
Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.
by DbacksSkins on Jun 10, 2008 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah,
and Burke is doing awesome job.
I do what I can, sometimes more, depends on the situation.
by srdmad on Jun 11, 2008 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Except
that Burke can play almost anywhere on the field. If you give me two guys who can’t hit major league pitching, and one of ‘em has that kind of versatility, and I’ll take the latter. Not to mention that Bonny is younger and probably has more upside over the long term than Burke, (which means it’s worth developing him) and finally, I think Burke is out of options…. so it’s not like it’s a straight one for one trade.
Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.
by DbacksSkins on Jun 11, 2008 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We have plenty of options at all other positions.
I would at least try him for a two weeks. When the D’backs were in Sports Ilustrated, I think it was Melvin that said that the team isn’t afraid to bring up a young guy, if he isn’t afraid to fail.
I do what I can, sometimes more, depends on the situation.
by srdmad on Jun 11, 2008 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Easy to say
When you have gone 20-8 in April. Now, on the other hand…the margin for failure is a great deal smaller. We just can’t afford to carry any more ‘fail’ on the roster.
by Jim McLennan on Jun 12, 2008 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pretty sure Emilio can hit 200, unlike Burke.
I do what I can, sometimes more, depends on the situation.
by srdmad on Jun 12, 2008 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But
Emilio only plays one position, 2B—and it’s not a position of need for us.
Well, two positions, if you count pinch runner.
Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.
by DbacksSkins on Jun 12, 2008 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Played some left field in spring training.
I do what I can, sometimes more, depends on the situation.
by srdmad on Jun 13, 2008 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah,
but we’ve got much better options in LF. (Especially if CoJack starts playing there more)
Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.
by DbacksSkins on Jun 14, 2008 1:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Have him pitch run in a late game situation.
If Jackson is going to play left field, I’m okay with that. My point is that Emilio should play over Burke.
I do what I can, sometimes more, depends on the situation.
by srdmad on Jun 14, 2008 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Burning a roster spot on a pinch runner who’s not very good at the plate, versus someone who can play most positions in the field and is also not very good with a bat? Personally, that doesn’t seem like a terribly good move to me.
Currently blaming the D-backs struggles on: the state of Oklahoma. The actual land and the people there, not, you know, in a "just look at the state of this room" sort of way.
by kishi on Jun 14, 2008 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Once again you guys over rate this multiple position thing.
Just how many of these positions is Burke good at?
I do what I can, sometimes more, depends on the situation.
by srdmad on Jun 14, 2008 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Defensively?
He’s pretty decent at most of em.
Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.
by DbacksSkins on Jun 14, 2008 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, I’m willing to bet he’s better than Bonificio at five or six of them.
With only so many rosters spots available, we need to get as much use out of each one as we can. I don’t think that a pinch-runner is enough use to spend a spot on.
Currently blaming the D-backs struggles on: the state of Oklahoma. The actual land and the people there, not, you know, in a "just look at the state of this room" sort of way.
by kishi on Jun 15, 2008 6:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What are the chances that all the bench players and a starter get hurt so that we need Burke to play?
I do what I can, sometimes more, depends on the situation.
by srdmad on Jun 15, 2008 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, man
With this team’s luck right now? Seems all too likely. =)
Currently blaming the D-backs struggles on: the state of Oklahoma. The actual land and the people there, not, you know, in a "just look at the state of this room" sort of way.
by kishi on Jun 15, 2008 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is that supposed to be a counter point?
Or am I right and you want to dodge being wrong.
I do what I can, sometimes more, depends on the situation.
by srdmad on Jun 15, 2008 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
For future reference
The little smiley face indicates that the preceding sentence was a joke.
Currently blaming the D-backs struggles on: the Order of the Blackened Denarius.
by kishi on Jun 15, 2008 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
More likely
is the chance that we need to make a double switch, since that happens almost daily, and Burke gives us the versatility to switch in and play any position.
Have the Dodgers lost yet?
by DbacksSkins on Jun 15, 2008 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Start Emilio in left.
When we need to pinch hit for him, we pinch it for him, and the next inning you bring in a different pitcher. What is so wrong with trying this?
I do what I can, sometimes more, depends on the situation.
by srdmad on Jun 15, 2008 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why the hell
would we want Bonifacio STARTING in left? He’s worse than Eric Byrnes and Jeff Salazar.
Have the Dodgers lost yet?
by DbacksSkins on Jun 15, 2008 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because he is better than Burke.
The whole point of this discussion that we are having.
I do what I can, sometimes more, depends on the situation.
by srdmad on Jun 16, 2008 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm reversing course
And siding with you on this one.
Not that I think Bonifacio will do all that much, and the lefty split really does suck for him, but I think the team has more to gain by giving Emilio a shot than sticking with Burke.
Burke has a minor league option by the way. He CAN be sent to Tucson…they don’t have to DFA him.
by shoewizard on Jun 12, 2008 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh -- he has an option left?
That changes things somewhat….
Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.
by DbacksSkins on Jun 12, 2008 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh yeah.
Chris Burke should NEVER, EVER, bat leadoff.
Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.
by DbacksSkins on Jun 10, 2008 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not ready to write off Davis
He had a 13 start stretch last year ( From Mid May to early July) when he was 3-9 with a 4.81 ERA but then over his last 15 starts had a 8-2 record with a 4.24 ERA, and then did a decent job in the post season.
The problem isn’t the pitching. The young hitters aren’t hitting, the defense sucks at 4 positions, and Bonifacio is not the answer.
by shoewizard on Jun 10, 2008 10:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
In which "4 positions" does the defense suck?
1st, 3rd, C, and….?
Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.
by DbacksSkins on Jun 10, 2008 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've got a change:
Howzabout we start hitting again?
Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.
by DbacksSkins on Jun 11, 2008 12:34 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I like this one
"D'backs" means seatbelts! "D'backs" means crash positions!
by soco on Jun 11, 2008 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why does this make sense?
The D-Backs offense has been in the toilet. The pitching has been pretty good. So the proposed solution is:
1) call up a kid from AAA that can’t even hit AAA pitching very well
2) trade one of the best hitters on the team
3) trade away a pitcher
by Craig from Az on Jun 11, 2008 11:07 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, when you put it like THAT....
....it actually DOES seem pretty silly, doesn’t it? Nicely done.
Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.
by DbacksSkins on Jun 11, 2008 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bonifacio's MLE
Some might find this interesting.
http://www.minorleaguesplits.com/mlecalc.html
Emilio came out to .249/.291/.306 or about as expected. The batting avg won’t translate, he won’t walk more, he’ll walk less…..and of course zero power
by shoewizard on Jun 11, 2008 11:30 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ohhh.... an OPS below .600...
Wow, that’s pretty ugly.
Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.
by DbacksSkins on Jun 11, 2008 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
MLE
D’Antona: .345/.365/.512
Bob Melvin Sucks
by nihil67 on Jun 11, 2008 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
but he’s coaching the Knicks now.
"D'backs" means seatbelts! "D'backs" means crash positions!
by soco on Jun 11, 2008 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
+5280
LOL!!
Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.
by DbacksSkins on Jun 11, 2008 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't know
I haven’t been able to find any evidence that he’s played OF before, but he is reputed to have a nice arm.
Can Chris Burke play LF?
Bob Melvin Sucks
by nihil67 on Jun 11, 2008 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually Burke is good in LF
He just can’t hit. All of his positive WARP is due to defense. He is a super black hole with the stick.
by shoewizard on Jun 11, 2008 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm
He’s been good so far this year, but would his numbers from previous years seem to indicate that he’s been getting lucky? 2006 RZR in LF of .611 in 119 innings. 2005 RZR in LF of .659 in 634 innings. 2007 RZR in RF of .800 in 132 innings… .851 in CF in 201 innings.
Bob Melvin Sucks
by nihil67 on Jun 11, 2008 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well today you are getting Jackson in LF ;)
Enjoy
by shoewizard on Jun 11, 2008 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really?
CoJack in LF, Tracy to 1st?
Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.
by DbacksSkins on Jun 11, 2008 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
I.. uh… would have done that the other way. Of course, I’m no ‘mad scientist’.
Bob Melvin Sucks
by nihil67 on Jun 11, 2008 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really?
CoJack has more speed I think (not to mention Tracy’s knees) and I think Tracy might be a bit better at playing the infield. Makes sense to me, at least for today.
Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.
by DbacksSkins on Jun 11, 2008 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I read a Melvin quote
That said Tracy is not ready to play LF yet, but they may consider that in the future if his knee proves able to hold up.
by shoewizard on Jun 11, 2008 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The drop off from CoJack to Tracy in left field
is much, much less than the drop off from CoJack to Tracy at first base.
I think this is probably the best solution until Byrnes comes back. then it will be time to start to figuring out what to do with the vortex of suck in the other outfield corner. Hopefully, by then it’s no longer so vortex-like.
by dahlian on Jun 11, 2008 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rusty Ryal
I don’t really post that much, but I read the threads daily. I wanted to put in my two cents about the Emilio issue. I definitely don’t want to trade Hudson at the trade deadline, but if we can’t resign him, I would rather give Rusty Ryal a try from double A than Emilio. I went to watch him play in Mobile Alabama last week. He had some pop in his bat and he was flashing the leather. His numbers have also improved since Lancaster.
by DisplacedAZfan on Jun 12, 2008 11:26 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Just to add the numbers
.293/.357/.456 with seven HR and 35 RBI, plus a K:BB ratio of 42:19. Certainly an improvement on last season – though with zero stolen bases in four attempts, he doesn’t look to be a threat to anyone but himself on the base-paths!
Appreciate the nudge, and welcome – it’s hard to keep track of whose doing well in the minors. I know Zephon is working on some stuff for the site in that area, so am looking forward to that.
by Jim McLennan on Jun 12, 2008 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How much longer are
we gonna let Upton twist in the wind? EB22 doesn’t have a thing to worry about when he comes back. Upton is in a far worse slump.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
by unnamedDBacksfan on Jun 12, 2008 12:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Except
that Upton has upside.
Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.
by DbacksSkins on Jun 12, 2008 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Take the leash that Reynolds was given last year
And multiply that by about 3.
Bob Melvin Sucks
by nihil67 on Jun 12, 2008 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can't recall.
Were you in favor of Reynolds being sent to Tucson last year?
Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.
by DbacksSkins on Jun 12, 2008 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
3 BBs, a double,
and scored the tying run today.
Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.
by DbacksSkins on Jun 12, 2008 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It would be fantastic if this was the end of his slump.
Currently blaming the D-backs struggles on: the state of Oklahoma. The actual land and the people there, not, you know, in a "just look at the state of this room" sort of way.
by kishi on Jun 12, 2008 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's been showing signs of coming out of it the past week
but just hasn’t broken through yet. Hopefully he comes back home and rips the Royals and A’s a new “A” hole. Get it?
"D'backs" means seatbelts! "D'backs" means crash positions!
by soco on Jun 12, 2008 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
By the way,
I am SOO glad we’re facing the A’s at home, rather than in Oakland.
Not that it did us a whole lotta good vs. the Giants, though. :-(
Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.
by DbacksSkins on Jun 12, 2008 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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