2B Prospect Smackdown - Emilio Bonifacio VS Rusty Ryal
All though the Diamondbacks already have a multiple Gold Glove winner in Orlando Hudson playing second base, we have to remember that Hudson is in a contract year, and will be eligible for Free Agency at the end of the 2008 season. I think it's important to take a look at the guys in the minors who could potentially hold down the second base position next year, or in the case of an injury this year. Today I'm going to look at the two most likely candidates, Emilio Bonifacio and Rusty Ryal...

One of the reasons why I chose these two players for this article, besides the fact that they're both candidates for the second base job next year, is the fact that they both embody two different aspects of the game. Speed in the case of Bonifacio and power in the case of Ryal.
I would think most Diamondbacks fans should be familiar with 23 old Emilio Bonifacio, who's often credited as one of the fastest players in the Dbacks farm, and has seen a brief cup of coffee at the end of the 2007 season. After being signed as a teenager as a non-drafted free agent out of the Dominican Republic in 2001, Bonifacio has made a slow ascent through the Diamondback's' Farm System. He's a small guy, listed at 5'10 and 195 pounds.
25 year old Rusty Ryal, on the other hand, hasn't been well known amongst Dbacks fans, until recently. The son of former MLB outfielder Mark Ryal, Rusty was drafted in the 14th round out of Oklahoma State University. He's listed at 6'2 195 pounds, relatively tall for a second baseman. Unfortunately, I don't have access to any scouting reports for Ryal.
To start things off, let's look at what Emilio Bonfacio has done statistically over the course of his career.
Bonifacio began his professional career as an 18 year old playing for the Missoula Ospreys, Arizona's Rookie Ball affiliate. He didn't much in his 146 at bats, posting a putrid overall line of .199/.287/.219. He struck out 43 times while walking 18 times. Overall, his debut season was very underwhelming, and I'd be hard pressed to find much in the way of positives, other than the 15 stolen bases, and the fact that he was very young.
Bonifacio was promoted to A Ball in 2004, and in my opinion really didn't do much to impress, and actually regressed in some areas. He did show signs of improvement, posting an overall batting line of .260/.303/.319 in 411 ABs.. He struck out 122 times, all though he did so at about the same rate as the year before. One troubling thing I noticed is that he started walking at lower pace. I guess the biggest positive is the 40 stolen bases while being caught 10 times.
2005 saw Bonifacio repeating A ball, but this time he showed real improvement across the board. In 522 ABS he posted an overall batting line of 270/341/.330. All though he had about 122 at bats than the year before, he dropped his strike outs down to 90. Mean while, he more than doubled his walks from the year before, drawing 56 free passes. He also stole 56 bases, all though he was caught 17 times.
In 2006, Bonifacio was promoted to Arizona's high A affliate Lancaster. In response, Bonifacio flourished in the California league's hitter friendly enviroment, posting arguably his best season. In 546 at bats, he hit .321/.375/.449 and led the California League in stolen bases (61); was second in runs scored (117) and hits (175); third in total bases (245) fifth in doubles (35) and sixth in batting average (.321). He did strike out 104 times, while walking only 44 times.
2007 saw Bonifacio leave the hitter friendly confines of the California league and enter the much more pitcher friendly AA Southern League. In 551 ABs, Bonifacio posted an overall line of .285/.333/352. Once again he struck out a ton(105 times) while walking even less(38 times).
Going into this year, you should all get a good idea of what kind of player Emilio Bonifacio is. He's got absolutely no power, doesn't walk much and strikes out a ton. Honestly I think we could all deal with his lack of power considering the speed he possesses on the base paths. Unfortunately, the guy just doesn't on base enough for that to really make a difference. He's still young, but he just hasn't shown enough of an improvement offensively to become a legit every day major league ball player. Ok, you can point out his 305/350/385 line with a 57/24 K/bb ratio in 325 at bats. He's striking out a little bit of a lower rate, and he's a walking just a bit more, while still having absolutely NO power. I'm still skeptical than he can succeed in the bigs. (Just FYI, writing about Bonifacio's minor league statistics has been almost painful)
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Let's move on to Rusty Ryal.
After being drafted and signing with the Dbacks in 2005, Rusty was assigned to Rookie Ball in Missoula. In 294 at bats, he posted a strong 333/391/497 batting line, with a 47:14 K:BB ratio. He had 32 extra base hits(22 doubles, 4 triples, and 6 HR's). A few things that are worth noting are his 11 SBs... as well as the 15 HBPs.
In 2006 Rusty skipped a level and was assigned to High A Lancaster. In 350 at bats he put up a 277/342/454 overall line with a 78:23 K:BB ratio, and 34 XBHs(17 2b, 6 3B, 11 HRs). He stole 8 bases, but was caught stealing 8 times. Overall, I'd say that his 2006 season was rather unimpressive, considering the hitting friendly enviroment of the california league.
In 2007, Rusty split time between High-A Visalia and AA Mobile. In 444 combined at bats he had an overall line of 277/331/462, with a 89/24 K/BB ratio, along with 17 HRs, 5 triples, and 21 doubles. He stole 6 bases, but was caught 7 times. It's worth noting the .301/.354/.496 line he posted in Visalia vs the 238/291/405 line in Mobile. Obviously, he struggled after being promoted, and his AA numbers really brought down his overall line, especially in regards to his K:BB ratio.in his 168 at bats in AA, he struck out 42 times while walking only 8 times. The one area where he obviously didn't struggle to much was in regards to his power, hitting 6HRs in the pitching friendly enviroment of the Southern league.
This year, Rusty has been playing in AA Mobile once again, and has thrived. In 253 at bats, he's posting a .304/.359/.478 line with a 49:20 K:BB ratio, 9 HRS, 2 triples, and 13 doubles.
So what is there to say to about Rusty Ryal? He's a got a good, not great bat for a second basemen, with some real good pop. He's a bit old for his league, but IMHO, as a college player, it's not as critical. He doesn't walk a ton, but he doesn't really strike out at Bonifacian pace either. He does struggle when promoted, but he has shown consistent signs of improvement, especially in regards to his HR power.
So back to the debate of Bonifacio vs Ryal. Who is the better prospect? In my opinion, I'd say Rusty Ryal is a better prospect than Emilio Bonifacio. They both don't walk a lot, and do strike out quite a bit. However, Rusty Ryal actually hits with enough power, that it shouldn't matter. Bonifacio, on the other hand will have to rely entirely on his batting average and speed if he wants to succeed in the bigs, something I wouldn't bet on happening.
So who do you think is a better candidate to replace Orlando Hudson?
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Just a couple added notes that I didn't want to include in the post
I could have gone into a lot more detail on both of these guys, especially Ryal, but at this point, I just wanted to get this up. Of course, if someone wants me to, I’ll gladly go ahead and provide more research in regards to some aspect that I missed.
by Zephon on Jun 23, 2008 2:14 AM EDT 0 recs
Defense?
You didn’t mention anything about either player’s defense at 2nd, which is kind of important for a second baseman. I’ve not seen anything in Bonifacio to believe that he’d ever be more than adequate. I think I’d liken him to Jerry Hairston Jr… decent, but too many mental breakdowns. I’ve not seen Ryal at all.
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by nihil67 on Jun 23, 2008 2:46 PM EDT 0 recs
defense
i dont know about ryal but Boni is an above average fielder. He has a lot of range and has an average arm. He doesnt make too many errors. Here is a clip of a play he made last year in the majors.
http://mlb.mlb.com/media/player/mp_tpl_3_1.jsp?w=2007/open/tp/archive09/091007_arisfn_bonifacio_def_tp_350.wmv&pid=mlb_tp&gid=2007/09/10/arimlb-sfnmlb-1&mid=200709112201356&cid=mlb&fid=mlb_tp400&v=2&id=598457
by JUPTON10 on
Jun 24, 2008 2:39 AM EDT
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Or
“He doesnt make too many errors.”
He’s committed 97 errors in 565 professional games played at 2nd… an average of 28 errors over a 162 game season. Fielding percentages of .958 in A, .964 in A, .969 in A+, .972 in AA, and .976 in AAA. That’s a little error prone. Granted, he has gotten better every year… I guess that’s something.
I’m going to stick with my comparison to Jerry Hairston Jr. Or, if you prefer, the 2nd base version of Julio Lugo.
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by nihil67 on
Jun 24, 2008 10:44 AM EDT
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There's a reason why I didn't talk about defense.
It’s very hard to find a lot of information about a player’s defense in the minors, out side of errors. And of course, it’s really hard to find things like range, throwing arm, et cetera.
Anyway, I do appreciate your opinion on Bonifacio. One thing though, I will say is the guy does have a ton of range.
Ryal is actually a converted 3b/SS, He’s pretty sure handed, rarely makes an error. Other than that. I can’t say much.
by Zephon on Jun 23, 2008 3:33 PM EDT 0 recs
Bonifacio
I’ve got to go with Bonifacio here. Ryal seems to be somewhat of a Quadruple-A player. He wasn’t hyped at all coming out of Oklahoma State, and he doesn’t have great tools, judging by many scouting reports. He wasn’t even listed on Baseball America’s rank of the D-Backs top 30 prospects. Bonifacio is two years younger, which is significant, and just has to develop the secondary skills (Eye, Avoiding K’s) to be a great player. The raw tools, like his amazing speed, is already there, as is his fielding. In a perfect world, Bonifacio becomes an above-average leadoff hitter, but I think it is more likely he develops into a 8th in the order speedster (like Joey Gathright) or a middle infield backup who pinch-runs. I see Ryal as a career Triple-A infielder.
by LucaMaz3 on Jun 23, 2008 6:32 PM EDT 0 recs
I see EBone as somewhat of a bridge
a gap filler until something more manageable can be found.
Baseball season, when everything becomes right in the world.
by seton hall snake pit on
Jun 23, 2008 6:41 PM EDT
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Good god
I now hate Bonifacio even more if his nickname is going to be “EBone”.
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by nihil67 on
Jun 23, 2008 7:26 PM EDT
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You have a thin skin,
dontcha Ben?
;-)
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by DbacksSkins on
Jun 24, 2008 2:09 AM EDT
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Here's a crazy idea
What if Drew took over 2nd? Yeah, I know that moves the issue to SS… but is everyone really ok with Drew being the fixture at short?
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by nihil67 on Jun 23, 2008 7:29 PM EDT 0 recs
I'm not sure
he put up a solid defensive year last year. Nothing spectacular but he wasn’t a liability either
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by seton hall snake pit on
Jun 23, 2008 7:31 PM EDT
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Who to play Short?
I think Drew is very much on a Jay Bell career path. But who could they get to play short?
by shoewizard on
Jun 23, 2008 7:36 PM EDT
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I thought about that one
I think he’s going to cost more than Hudson.
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by nihil67 on
Jun 23, 2008 10:23 PM EDT
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He's having
a pretty decent year this year. I dunno if he’ll cost more than Hudson, but I agree with the sentiment.
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by DbacksSkins on
Jun 24, 2008 3:40 PM EDT
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A decent, injury filled year
He had a hot April, for sure, but he hasn’t played since 5/5. If he comes back after the all-star break and even finishes with decent numbers, I can see him signing as a free agent somewhere in the $11M a season range pretty easily. Granted, I’d rather pay $11M a season to Furcal than Hudson. He’s making $13M this year, the same salary he received last year.
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by nihil67 on
Jun 24, 2008 4:13 PM EDT
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Bad Back
And expensive like Ben said. But not a terrible suggestion.
by shoewizard on
Jun 23, 2008 11:28 PM EDT
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Didn't Reynolds
play short in college?
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by DbacksSkins on
Jun 24, 2008 2:11 AM EDT
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There is this one guy that we drafted as a shortstop
Justin Upton
by DisplacedAZfan on Jun 24, 2008 1:41 PM EDT 0 recs
Was wondering about that, myself.
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by DbacksSkins on
Jun 24, 2008 2:18 PM EDT
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Hard hands
There is a reason he was moved off short stop right away. It was easier for the organization to sell it to him as a quicker route to the majors, but the truth is they evaluated him as never being able to stay at SS. Heck..he was playing a lot of 3b towards the end of his senior year in H.S.
by shoewizard on
Jun 24, 2008 4:36 PM EDT
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Well,
so, as purely a thought experiment, Drew at 2B, Reynolds at SS, Upton at 3B, (those could be reversed too)? Maybe Parra or a FA/trade in RF?
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by DbacksSkins on
Jun 24, 2008 4:43 PM EDT
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Speaking of Parra
I’ll be looking at him next. Unless of course, there’s some other guy y’all would like me to look at.
by Zephon on
Jun 24, 2008 4:47 PM EDT
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Have you been watching Reynolds at third?
All the vitriol Foulpole’s aims at Upton’s defense could rightfully be sent Reynolds way. He’s been extremely poor by both conventional and advanced defensive metrics.
by dahlian on
Jun 25, 2008 1:46 AM EDT
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I'm aware of it.
That’s why I only proposed it as a thought experiment, not a serious proposition.
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by DbacksSkins on
Jun 25, 2008 2:02 AM EDT
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How about Hudson
He’s not exactly tearing it up either. Second to last in RZR of qualified 2Bmen.
http://www.hardballtimes.com/thtstats/main/index.php?view=fielding&linesToDisplay=50&orderBy=zone_rating&direction=DESC&qual_filter=1&season_filter[]=2008&league_filter[]=All&pos_filter[]=4&Submit=Submit
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by nihil67 on
Jun 25, 2008 10:30 AM EDT
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Foulpole would be particularly distraught
to find out that Hudson is 4th from the bottom in fielding % as well.
Tied for 8th in OOZ, though.
Other items of note from Ben’s THT link:
From the Department of Not Surprising, Drew is also 2nd to last in RZR.
From the Department of On the Lighter Side, Drew is 8th in OOZ plays among SSs, and Mark is 15th among 3Bs.
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by DbacksSkins on
Jun 25, 2008 11:10 AM EDT
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While OOZ is nice
an observation I’ve made privately on Hudson is that he’s way too concerned with balls out of his zone. Repeatedly he’s out in CF and RF making plays that Upton and Young should be making. I’ve seen him cut off Drew once or twice too.
Yet he’s missing the easy stuff at his position and is already 2 errors shy of his total from last year. (Over)Playing for the contract, maybe?
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by nihil67 on
Jun 25, 2008 12:14 PM EDT
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Yeah, I've definitely noticed that.
It doesn’t really add a lot of defensive value if you can run to the outfield and stand under a high popup. I always figured it was because he didn’t trust Upton’s D, but maybe it IS a contract thing.
Not that it matters. He’ll win the Gold Glove again because he won it last year, and because he still makes web gems from time to time.
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by DbacksSkins on
Jun 25, 2008 12:19 PM EDT
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I dont like either.
Bonifacio’s OBP is to low for me (career .339 in the minors), Ryal’s career OBP is better at .352 but still, he is 25 and still in AA, I guess that is not a huge obstacle but I would like to see Ryal in AAA first before we talk about him taking over full time at second. Remember Reynolds situation was a lot different in that he was a emergency call up for Tracy and it was not planned that he was going to be taking over full time but more of just a band-aid until Tracy came back. Or at least that is how I remembered it :unsure:.
Though Reynolds made the leap from AA to the majors he was getting on base 39% of the time in AA.
Here is the notable 2B FA coming up this year…
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Jamey Carroll * CLE
Ray Durham SF
Mark Ellis OAK
Marcus Giles COL
Mark Grudzielanek KC
Orlando Hudson ARZ
Jeff Kent LAD
Felipe Lopez WAS
D’Angelo Jimenez STL
Pablo Ozuna * CWS
Nick Punto MIN
Jose Valentin NYM
Jose Vidro * SEA
*indicates the player has a option for the year.
by dbacksfan01 on Jun 24, 2008 5:49 PM EDT 0 recs
Do you remember Dan Uggla?
That’s the guy I hear Ryal most often compared to
by Zephon on
Jun 24, 2008 6:02 PM EDT
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Interesting...
I have not heard of those comparisons, still I would not feel comfortable with him coming out of AA to take over full time.
by dbacksfan01 on
Jun 24, 2008 6:15 PM EDT
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Overstatement
Uggla had way, way more power. Ryal is closer to Mark DeRosa (with the bat, at least).
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by nihil67 on
Jun 24, 2008 7:51 PM EDT
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I wouldn't say way way more power.
Ryal is on pace to hit about 15-20 homers in a rather tough hitting enviroment. Uggla’s career high of homers in the minors was 21. That’s not way way more power.
by Zephon on
Jun 25, 2008 2:32 PM EDT
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Maybe it's not way, way.. but it's at least way
Here are some directly comparable examples:
Uggla: 2003, 23, A+ LNC: 23 HR, 1 every 23.2 AB (I feel like I’m on Sesame Street… 23!). .504 SLG.
Ryal : 2006, 23, A+ LNC: 11 HR, 1 every 31.8 AB. .454 SLG.
Uggla: 2004, 24, A+ LNC and AA ELP: 10 HR, 1 every 43.5 AB. .432 SLG.
Ryal: 2007, 24, A+ VIS and AA MOB: 17 HR, 1 every 26.1 AB. .462 SLG.
Uggla 2005, 25, AA TEN: 21 HR, 1 every 23.7 AB. .502 SLG.
Ryal: 2008 (to date), 25, AA MOB, 9 HR, 1 every 29.1 AB. .469 SLG.
Aside from 2004, when Uggla was slow to adjust to AA, he’s clearly outpaced Ryal in HR rate and slugging.
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by nihil67 on
Jun 25, 2008 3:29 PM EDT
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HR Park Factors
From here
Lancaster: 1.16
Visalia: 0.99
ElPaso: N/A
Tennessee: 0.96
Mobile: 1.00
Basically, home-runs in Lancaster are worth nothing.
by Jim McLennan on
Jun 25, 2008 5:49 PM EDT
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Which
Makes that year a very nice way to snapshot them both. Same age, same location. Uggla – way more power.
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by nihil67 on
Jun 25, 2008 6:09 PM EDT
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Poor man's Dan Uggla
Thats honestly how I’ve viewed Ryal all along.
I don’t actually think EITHER of these guys is going to be a start in the major leagues….or if they do get a shot, are unlikely to hold it for very long.
Unless they can sign Mark Ellis, D backs are screwed next year.
by shoewizard on
Jun 25, 2008 7:06 PM EDT
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+1
“I don’t actually think EITHER of these guys is going to be a start in the major leagues….or if they do get a shot, are unlikely to hold it for very long.”
Ryal may be able to grab on as a Chris Burke type.
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by nihil67 on
Jun 26, 2008 1:24 PM EDT
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I completely agree
I think best case scenario out of either of them would be a league average OPS.
by Zephon on
Jun 26, 2008 3:02 PM EDT
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Bonifacio will NEVER have a league avg OPS
Well….maybe…..if somehow he sticks as a starter, and has one very very lucky BABIP year, and hits .320, he might muster up a 100 OPS+. But that is about the only way that will ever happen.
The absolute best case scenario for Bonifacio is he manages a career 75-80 OPS+ , adds to his overall value by having his OPS be OBP heavy, and steals a lot of bases at high efficiency, and plays really good second base.
Considering his walk totals in the minors, and all other factors….chance of that happening is about 5%
by shoewizard on
Jun 26, 2008 3:42 PM EDT
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Why use the sample that's furthest removed from the present?
You could just as easily make the same arguments about their age 24 seasons. Same age, same levels, Ryal played in much more difficult home parks and had more more power.
There’s still a good chance that Ryal’s power will end up similar to Uggla’s as the weather heats up and the balls start flying. Of course, just because Ryal has minor league numbers as good of or better than Uggla doesn’t mean that he’s going to hit like Uggla in the majors. At the time, Uggla was interesting enough that it was a mistake for him to be left unprotected, but 25 year-olds in AA ball are far from sure things.
Ryall is definitely the sort of minor leaguer for whom I would defer to a scouts’ assessment on his ability to make it in the bigs.
by dahlian on
Jun 25, 2008 7:45 PM EDT
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Because
The A+ years were nearly identical in terms of time played. In their age 24 seasons, Ryal played almost 2/3 in A+ while Uggla played only about 1/3. That skews the numbers.
Clearly, this season will be the next best measuring stick, assuming that Ryal doesn’t get promoted to AAA at some point.
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by nihil67 on
Jun 26, 2008 4:21 PM EDT
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I've said before,
that I would be pleased as a pig in muck if the DBacks signed Ellis to a three year deal in the $6-8M, but if the asking price goes beyond that I wouldn’t mind if the team went after Grudzielanek in a one-year rent-a-player deal.
Beyond that, the 2B free agent crop is abysmal.
by dahlian on
Jun 25, 2008 1:49 AM EDT
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I would love Ellis
to come to the desert but the chances of us signing him are pretty bad. So far this year he has been the best fielding second basemen leading all 2B in RZR and has had a good year with the bat as well. He has had problems putting up back to back good years but that might change this year if he keeps this up.
As far as what he can do with the bat here is his line from last year .276/ .336/ .441/ 110 OPS+. Pretty good for a 2B, and so far this year he has been good walking more then he has struck out and is putting up a higher OBP then last year (though he is SLG% is down a bit and so is his BA).
I would love to see Ellis in a D-backs uniform but I think he will get snagged by someone else.
by dbacksfan01 on
Jun 25, 2008 1:39 PM EDT
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Plus,
there’d be the issue of having 2 Marks on the IF. We already have a Chad and Brandon problem. (I don’t count “Chris”, since it’s more common)
We’d have similar issues if we signed Micah Bowie or Orlando Cabrera.
Have the Dodgers lost yet?
by DbacksSkins on
Jun 25, 2008 1:47 PM EDT
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LOL
When you put it like that then the idea of signing another Mark is as bad as a team signing David Eckstein.
by dbacksfan01 on
Jun 25, 2008 1:57 PM EDT
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I agree with pretty much all your points dahlian
I love Mark Ellis, he’s historical just as good if not better than O-Dawg defensively at this point, and the difference in offense between the two is negligible, once you look at park factors.
Grudzielanek has a great bat, but his defensive rep isn’t the best.
And yes, besides Hudson, Ellis, and Grudzeilanek the crop FA second basemen is garbage.
by Zephon on
Jun 25, 2008 2:37 PM EDT
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I remember Tracy and 2 of our triple A guys being hurt and that's why Reynolds was called up.
The talent that is Josh Hamilton.
by srdmad on
Jun 27, 2008 6:20 PM EDT
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So where...
Do you have access to these scouting reports?
by dbacksfan01 on Jun 24, 2008 9:34 PM EDT 0 recs
Im sure Craig Counsell
Would love another spell ;)
So...time for another drink then?
by Wimb on Jun 26, 2008 8:05 AM EDT 0 recs
I'm really proud of this post
Not because it’s the best article I’ve written in my 15+ years on the web. Nay, I’m a lot more proud of the discussion it’s sparked.
by Zephon on Jun 26, 2008 3:05 PM EDT 1 recs
You've been posting on the Webb since you are 7?
:-)
by shoewizard on
Jun 26, 2008 3:42 PM EDT
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My family is a bunch of computer nerds
What can I say? I remember running DOS on a Tandy.
by Zephon on
Jun 26, 2008 3:49 PM EDT
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I thought
you were 21?
Mark Reynolds: Turning me gay since '07
by DbacksSkins on
Jun 26, 2008 4:01 PM EDT
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FWIW,
I remember running MSDOS too, when we got our first 286 IBM in 1989 or 1990 or something. Ugh. DOS 5.0 was awful at memory management. 6.0 was much better. I remember having issues with not having enough of the first 640K of RAM free…. you know, TSR issues and all that…. to run my educational games. (Learn to Add, Learn to Spell, etc., etc. Learn to Spell was so sweet!! It had a dolphin and a submarine!!!)
Anyway, sorry. Random tangent.
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by DbacksSkins on
Jun 26, 2008 4:31 PM EDT
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And just for the record:
I’ve been using a computer and browsing the internet since I was about 6. The first time I went online was to get cheat codes for SNES.
(Even though this all completely off-topic)
by Zephon on
Jun 26, 2008 4:13 PM EDT
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Eh
my OT post went even further than your OT post.
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by DbacksSkins on
Jun 26, 2008 4:31 PM EDT
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I guess I do
If you are 21 years old, and have been posting on the internet for 15+ years, that means would started posting on the internet BEFORE you even turned 6 years old.
Somehow…..I just doubt that. Using a home computer…sure…nothing odd about that. But what were you posting online in 1993 ?
Stop bullshitting.
by shoewizard on
Jun 26, 2008 4:46 PM EDT
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Not that hard to believe
I started playing around on BBSes with my Commodore 64 and 300 baud modem when I was in 6th or 7th grade… somewhere in 1991-1992.
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by nihil67 on
Jun 26, 2008 5:05 PM EDT
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I didn't BBS anything
until probably 1993 or 1994ish, and even then, the only thing I was interested in were Apogee or Epic Megagames shareware programs…
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by DbacksSkins on
Jun 26, 2008 5:08 PM EDT
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/fist
Duke Nukem. Commander Keen. And, best of all, ZZT.
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by nihil67 on
Jun 26, 2008 5:21 PM EDT
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Ok, technically I've been using the internet for 14 years. Happy now?
I’m pretty damned sure when I first actually used the internet and (now that I’ve actually really thought about it) It was 1994. I was seven years old. Donkey Kong Country had just come out, and I got permission to use a messageboard to find cheat codes. It’s not like I was using the computer completely without supervision when I went on the internet. In the early days of the web, especially in the gaming community, messageboards were the easiest ways to find cheat codes and FAs
In my 21 years of existence, I’ve never not had a computer around me. My parents buy new PCs every two years, or due at least an extensive upgrade every 6 months. I’ve personally owned my own computer since around 1998. To get online back then, I used those free 45 day whatever trial offers from AOL, and just continuously made new accounts to have long term internet access without restriction from my parents. I was a very smart kid, and I’ve always had a knack for computers. When I was living in Scottsdale, I actually rebuilt computers with my families’ outdated parts and sold them to my fellow students to provide extra income. No bullshit.
by Zephon on
Jun 26, 2008 7:24 PM EDT
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I wrote a primitive online bullettin-board
Back in 1987, in my final year of college, and was bipping about, exploring the British proto-Net, called JANET [Joint Academic Network] at that point, which connected the universities. I mostly used it to play on the first ever MUD, at Essex University – in the middle of the night, as it only came online at 2 am. Of course, i wasn’t technically allowed to be, and almost lost my degree as a result. Fortunately, when the academic authorities came knocking, I could prove I was out of the country on some of the dates their records showed I was supposedly “abusing” the system, so I got off with having to pay a fine and some costs.
Ah, happy days…
by Jim McLennan on
Jun 27, 2008 3:11 AM EDT
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