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Diamondbacks 3, Mets 5 - From Hero to Zero

Record: 35-31. page: 86-76. Change on last season: -2

2.6%. That was our meager chances of victory at the end of the eighth, as the Mets coasted along with a three-run lead, a starting pitcher who'd posted nothing but zeros and, in case of any difficulty, a closer with a 1.08 ERA ready to go in the bullpen. This was not a game the Diamondbacks should ever have won. Of course, this was not a game the Diamondbacks did win - but the eventual loss took about 4.5 more innings to complete that we expected.

I can't work out if that's a good thing or not: the two out, two strike, three-run homer which Reynolds smacked to tie the game in the bottom of the ninth was certainly a moment to savor [Not least for the sight of the Mets fans, who looked like they'd just learned the Mets had been bought out and would now be the Triple-A affiliate for the Yankees. I loved the subsequent shot of home fans wearing paper-bags on their heads, with 'The Tickets Were Free' scrawled on them. That's the kind of gallows humor I adore] But with hindsight, the cynic in me mutters that he should just have whiffed, and saved us all a lot of bother. To quote John Cleese from Clockwise: "I can take the despair. It's the hope I can't stand."

Our bullpen certainly took a hell of a beating, pitching for 7.2 innings and allowing four hits and no earned runs. They posted nothing but zeroes from the sixth through the twelfth, with everyone bar Slaten and Lyon seeing action. The thirteenth, when the Mets clinched it, was keyed by a one-out error by ninth-inning hero, Reynolds. He bobbled a sharp but eminently fieldable ground-ball; one batter later, Delgado launched a pitch from Edgar Gonzalez into the bleachers, and the game was over. Arizona certainly had their chances during the bonus baseball too, likely none better than the top of that inning, where we had men on first and second with one out. However, Jackson grounded into a double-play, and we never got back to the plate.

Arizona's relievers were forced into much earlier action than we'd like, Brandon Webb being taken out after five innings. That was, I suspect, thanks almost entirely to being plunked in the kidneys by a comebacker from Delgado in the fourth. That was when the Mets did all their damage until two outs into the fateful thirteenth inning. The problem started with Jose Reyes getting the benefit of a very dubious call at first base, breaking up Webb's no-hitter with a bunt single, though replays showed he was actually out. [Did the commissioner send down a memo ordering the officials to go easy on the big-market team, for the sake of TV ratings? Oh, my mistake - i forgot that this isn't the NBA...] An error by Webb put runners on the corners with no outs, and by the time Webb finally escaped, the Mets had a 3-0 lead. That was it for them over the next nine innings.

Not that our offense fared better, last night proving the truth of Matthew 7:15: "Beware of false prophets, which come to you in hitter's clothing, but inwardly they are slumping Diamondbacks." [That's from the Josh Byrnes Revised Edition, of course] Normal service was resumed with a vengeance in the front eight, where we managed only four hits and two walks off Mike Pelfrey - whom we had tattooed all over Chase Field, less than six weeks previously. We also went 0-for-5 with runners in scoring position over that period, and things looked decidedly bleak as we entered the ninth. However, Drew led off with a single and, though that merely brought in Billy Wagner, Jackson added a one-out double. Another strikeout later, Reynolds came up and it looked like he got nicked by a pitch to load the bases, but didn't get the call [That commissioner's memo...]

Barely had Arizona fans time to start fulminating over that, when Mark Reynolds rendered it moot, crushing a full-count pitch into the left-field bleachers, for his fifteenth homer of the season. Rarely has the name 'Special K' been more appropriate. He went 1-for-5, with the hit being his three-run jack, and the other four at-bats all resulting in him taking his lumber back to the dugout with him. Elsewhere in the lineup, results were mixed.  Hudson had three hits, Drew and Jackson two apiece - though we are looking at six at-bats apiece, and the overall K:BB ratio of 15:3 was distinctly unsatisfactory. The bottom half of the order were particularly limp, outside of Reynolds' blast, with slots #5-8 going a combined 2-for-16 with two walks and eight strikeouts.

One of the surprises was seeing Conor Jackson make his second start at left-field in the majors, the first being July 16 last year against Milwaukee. if not perhaps silky smooth, he performed perfectly acceptably there, given the situation. Jackson was a left-fielder coming up, and converted to first-base before the 2005 season, so don't be surprised if we see more of him there in future. Melvin initially said it was just for today, but then backtracked somewhat when asked it was definitely a one-off. "Just looking for a way to get both bats in there," Bob said, referring to Jackson and Tracy. "More than anything, I was playing for today, and we'll see how it plays out." Jackson was even vaguer about his future prospects: "I don't know, the discussions haven't even been discussed." I'm still working out what that means...

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Master of his domain: Chad Qualls, +28.6%
Honorable mention: Mark Reynolds, +19.4%
God-emperor of suck: Conor Jackson, -23.6%
Dishonorable mention: Chris Young, -21.9%

A particularly interesting Fangraph there, and the accompanying statistics are too. You'd expect Mark to rule this one, based on the +34.9% for his ninth-inning heroics. However, the other four at-bats - all K's - chipped away at that, to the level where he was surpassed by Chad Qualls' two scoreless innings in a tied game. His strikeout to end the eleventh with a runner on first, for example, was worth -6.7%. Jackson's double-play which ended the thirteenth, is the cause of his sucktitude, whacking 22.1% off our chances. On the other hand, EdGon's coughing up of the homer [-43.4%] is somewhat negated by his scoreless twelfth [+14.3%] and he ends up at "only" -21.4%.

And into an overflow thread we went, as this one dragged on towards the four-hour mark. Shame we couldn't have ended with a better result. Still, thanks to those who showed up - which would largely exclude the Diamondbacks' offense then. :-( Those attending were: Muu, emilylovesthedbacks, DbacksSkins, Zephon, foulpole, dahlian, kishi, hotclaws, TwinnerA, CPAYNEonaplane, bcloirao, srdmad, Diamondhacks, Augie's Army, 4 Corners Fan, dstorm, SongBird and mrssoco. emily wins the Comment of the Day award, after she abandoned Conor Jackson's appearance on The Eric Byrnes Show: "I’ll just stick to watching them run around in the tight pants… They’re much more attractive when they don’t talk."

Much debate also on the wisdom of leaving Lyon sitting on the bench in a tied game as we went through extra innings. I'm unsure on that one: if we'd used him earlier, I wouldn't have felt very happy relying on EdGon to protect a one-run lead in the bottom of extra innings. Morning game tomorrow [AZ time], so remember that when planning your days. And oh, look: the Dodgers lost...

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"I'm unsure on that one: if we'd used him earlier, I wouldn't have felt very happy relying on EdGon to protect a one-run lead in the bottom of extra innings."

Because we’re much better off relying on him to protect a zero-run lead?

The way I see it from here, both of those situations have zero margin for error. You may also luck out and be able to hand a multiple run lead or more over to him giving him even more room for error.

by dahlian on Jun 12, 2008 1:03 AM EDT reply actions  

With a fixed number of innings

I can see your point. But we had no idea how many innings were going to be needed tonight. Would it have been better to have burned every pitcher we have in pursuit of an eventual loss?

by Jim McLennan on Jun 12, 2008 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Against that bullpen, yes.

You go for the win when it’s in front of you. Remind me again, how many save situations has Lyon pitched in over the last month?

The long reliever has to be the last man out of the bullpen. What if EdGon goes out and pitches a scoreless inning and then the offense scores a run. Then do you bring in Lyon? What happens if he blows the save, but gets out of the inning with a tie? Then the team is completely and utterly screwed and they might as well wave the white flag.

If you’re going to hold back a member of the A corps for tomorrow, then it should be Pena or Qualls. There is no margin for error in an extra innings tie game on the road. The best relievers should be in there.

by dahlian on Jun 12, 2008 1:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thank you, Jim.

I like winning things like this.
haha.

by emilylovesthedbacks on Jun 12, 2008 1:35 AM EDT reply actions  

Congrats!

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on Jun 12, 2008 2:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

For those wondering

June 1st was the last time that the Dodgers and Diamondbacks have played games on the same day, but with differing results.

by dahlian on Jun 12, 2008 1:48 AM EDT reply actions  

Waiting for the Dbacks to snap out of it

Man this is sure a strange team. I swear there is a hitting goldmine just waiting to be tapped with this team, the only thing is that once they find that vein they keep losing it a game latter. When will they strike the motherload!!!!!!!!
Well they had better realize that they are not going to keep first place forever with this kinda of playing.
Somebody has got to crack some heads

"Troops in desperate straights know no fear. Where there is no escape, they stand firm; When they have entered deep, they persist; When they see no hope, they fight." Sun Tzu The Art of War

by Turambar on Jun 12, 2008 2:25 AM EDT reply actions  

STOP TRYING TO JINX US!!!!

;-)

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on Jun 12, 2008 2:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

lol at u

"Troops in desperate straights know no fear. Where there is no escape, they stand firm; When they have entered deep, they persist; When they see no hope, they fight." Sun Tzu The Art of War

by Turambar on Jun 12, 2008 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think I could manage out of a wet paper bag either

but it doesn’t really matter what reliever gets run out there because the offense wasn’t anywhere to be seen. Thems the breaks.

"D'backs" means seatbelts! "D'backs" means crash positions!

by soco on Jun 12, 2008 2:26 AM EDT reply actions  

YES.

As I keep saying, if you can hold your opponent to 3 runs through 9 innings, YOU SHOULD BE WINNING THAT GAME.

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on Jun 12, 2008 2:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Indeed

Make that 3 rus through twelve innings, all three tallied v Brandon Webb. Some people watched the game and saw a mgr (Bob Melvin) who cant manage his way out of a paper bag, doesnt understand leverage and is a moron. I saw a manager who selected reliever after reliever after reliever after reliever after reliever who matched up against the Mets lineup and did the job. No reliever across 7.2 IP, not even Edgar, surrendered an earned run.

by Diamondhacks on Jun 12, 2008 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mark Reyonlds HR in the 9th

2 out, full count – is why I love sports—It’s too bad that didn’t lead to a win. But what a moment. Went back and watched the replay and Sutton’s call was priceless.

“HE DID IT – WE’RE TIED!” – and you could totally tell he was as shocked as the rest of us when the ball left the yard -

I have to say, I think Grace and Sutton are the best at what they do – They bring excitement to the game -for the most part they’re pretty objective on close calls – they’re insightful – AND they know how to have fun – which is way more interesting that just listening to your average boring national announcer describe what I can already see on the television.

by dstorm on Jun 12, 2008 11:18 AM EDT reply actions  

Your "average boring national announcer"

is AWFUL because they generally have even less substance than Gracie and Sutton. Joe Morgan, anyone??

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on Jun 12, 2008 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

the ESPN Sunday night crew is a perfect example of this – “generally speaking”

by dstorm on Jun 12, 2008 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey now,

Miller is one of the best in the business. I will brook no argument on this one.

Joe Morgan is pretty much the same as Mark Grace only sans the buffoon act. Both are great hitters that can be an absolute treat to listen to when they’re talking about pitch sequences and the art of hitting. Both have their hobbyhorse of deriding statistics and promoting their belief in the infallibility of small ball.

by dahlian on Jun 12, 2008 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not a fan of Miller on national broadcasts

I like him a bit better calling Giants games—the truth is, most national broadcasters end up equating objectivity with “boring” – There are very few “national” broadcasters that I really enjoy listening to or that stand out above the rest.

I would put Bob Costas, Brent Musberger and Mike Patrick on my short list.

by dstorm on Jun 12, 2008 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

They equate objectivity with "boring"

because their producers TELL them to. If they express an opinion on everything, it keeps people involved and earns higher ratings. Or so they seem to think.

That’s what Paul Zimmerman says about the NFL commentators, anyway.

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on Jun 12, 2008 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I had to miss most of the 2nd half of the game and was shocked when I finally checked the score in the 9th to see we had tied it up. When I watched Mark’s HR later it was funny to see the Mets fans stunned into silence. They had their hands on top of their heads and their mouths hanging open. I figured it would be another HR that would decide the game and hope it would be us, but it was not to be. Sigh.

by TwinnerA on Jun 12, 2008 11:59 AM EDT reply actions  

That crowd was SOOO excited to see Pelfrey get a CG ShO

and the Mets finally get a W—and then Reynolds crushed their hopes with one swift stroke. :-D

Of course, we ended up losing the game anyway, but most of the Mets fans were gone by then.

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on Jun 12, 2008 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I attended this one

and I swear that everyone in the whole stadium could hear me after Reynolds hit it out. That says something about D-Backs fans in NY, and also how stunned the whole stadium was.

by LucaMaz3 on Jun 12, 2008 5:17 PM EDT reply actions  

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