Overflow Thread, #66: 6/11 vs. Mets
by DbacksSkins on Jun 11, 2008 10:25 PM EDT
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PrintTied 3-3 going into the 12th inning. Carry on.
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Let's get it done!
Go D-backs!
Currently blaming the D-backs struggles on: this pain in all the diodes down my left side.
I just can't bring myself
to root for the Padres.
Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.
by DbacksSkins on Jun 11, 2008 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions
DAMN.
so close.
holy crap.
i almost had a heart attack…
by emilylovesthedbacks on Jun 11, 2008 10:28 PM EDT reply actions
But in a good way, right?
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by DbacksSkins on Jun 11, 2008 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions
If that had been CoJack, there’d’ve been no 12th inning :-)
No emoticon required. Delgado’s scorcher probably would’ve bounced off Conor’s eyebrow all the way to the wall.
If it was hit right at him
I think CJ would have stopped the ball and been able to pick it up in time to get the runner.
Now if he had to move at all to his right or left, all bets are off.
Well, I guess,
Delgado has a pronounced limp ;-)
by Diamondhacks on Jun 11, 2008 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Ha
They’re wondering who’s still watching from across the country. They should talk to some of our British contingent if they want to know about late nights…
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Interesting
Qualls at bat with two outs in the 12th.
Currently blaming the D-backs struggles on: this pain in all the diodes down my left side.
If I email them...
do you think we could get a shoutout for the ‘pit?
by emilylovesthedbacks on Jun 11, 2008 10:31 PM EDT reply actions
Um....
I assumed you knew already?
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by DbacksSkins on Jun 11, 2008 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions
twalsh@foxsports.net
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Yes. Probably.
Make sure they know it’s AZSnakepit.com
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by DbacksSkins on Jun 11, 2008 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions
This game just keeps getting better and better.
I do what I can, sometimes more, depends on the situation.
i dont know whats worse
pushing qualls for a 3rd inning or edgar gonzalez
by CPAYNEonaplane on Jun 11, 2008 10:33 PM EDT reply actions
Bottom of order,
I would go with Gonzalez.
I do what I can, sometimes more, depends on the situation.
Unless Quails can have a high pitch count.
I do what I can, sometimes more, depends on the situation.
EdGon in to pitch.
Damn. I wish we had just gotten four runs or something.
Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.
Hey all.
I thought this would be way over. I hear Reynolds hit an f-you homerun. :)
I have been colonized.
Pretty much, yeah.
He got angry after he was HBP but not awarded a base.
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by DbacksSkins on Jun 11, 2008 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Thank God he wasn't,
by the way.
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by DbacksSkins on Jun 11, 2008 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
+A billion
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I don't think
I’ve ever been plussed this much before. Thank you.
Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.
by DbacksSkins on Jun 11, 2008 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Which started out run towards the division.
I do what I can, sometimes more, depends on the situation.
Upton did the exact same thing, too, didn't he?
Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.
by DbacksSkins on Jun 11, 2008 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
yep.
looked like he got hit in the foot, plate ump didn’t call it, and he crushed a pitch into the bleachers.
WOO.
by emilylovesthedbacks on Jun 11, 2008 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
It was beautiful
He got hit by a pitch, they didn’t give him the base, so he took three more.
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That's exactly what it was
Almost doesnt matter how the game concludes. Mets fans had bags over their heads, with their guys up in the bottom of the ninth of a tie game. Priceless.
by Diamondhacks on Jun 11, 2008 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Another address:
Supposedly this goes to the FSN booth:
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/teamEmail?categoryId=71615
It's like living with a six-year old.
Awesome happened
That’s what.
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This is so unbelievably stupid.
EdGon is the long man. He’s it.
Why the hell are we saving Lyon for a “save situation” when one run loses the game right now?!?
How can the local writers let Melvin get away with this bullshit?
This requires further study.
Is this the CW? That you save your closer in a tie game?
Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.
by DbacksSkins on Jun 11, 2008 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions
It's the second time Melvin has done it this season.
The last time was in San Diego. Lyon was unavailable, but Pena was the “closer”. He elected to not use Pena and have EdGon stay in and eventually lose.
There is flat out no reasonable justification for this practice. An extra inning tie game is an even higher leverage than a lead. If the long reliever can pitch in a tie game, then they can pitch with a lead. And what happens if the team gets a lead, the closer comes in and then blows the save? Then the team is doubly ######.
I know, I remember the first game.
Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.
by DbacksSkins on Jun 11, 2008 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, he sure "squared up"
on that single.
Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.
by DbacksSkins on Jun 11, 2008 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed.
If not for the brilliant managing of pinch hitting Burke for Salazar, that ball would likely be caught.
Well, I'm not certain of THAT,
but it was still a fucking stupid idea.
Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.
by DbacksSkins on Jun 11, 2008 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions
And no other pitcher would ever give up a hit like that.
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Med-its-gon.
:-P
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by DbacksSkins on Jun 11, 2008 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Why does that matter?
Every pitcher will give up a single like that from time to time, and that seriously could have been caught by Burke. But, of the whole roster, no one else gets smack talk about it from you for pitching like that.
And, of course, you don’t acknowledge that Gonzales pitched a perfectly fine inning other than that one at-bat.
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And yet
foulpole doesn’t get this….
Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.
by DbacksSkins on Jun 11, 2008 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I think, after today, I’m moving very close to being on Foulpole’s ignore list.
Currently blaming the D-backs struggles on: this pain in all the diodes down my left side.
Surprise! You may already be a winner!
Remember, he doesn’t TELL you when he’s ignoring you…. because that would violate him ignoring you.
Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.
by DbacksSkins on Jun 12, 2008 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I figure if I failed to get banned from GLB, I can at least be ignored by foulpole.
Currently blaming the D-backs struggles on: the state of Oklahoma. The actual land and the people there, not, you know, in a "just look at the state of this room" sort of way.
Yeah. You can wear that badge with pride.
Although, being ignored by foulpole is much more annoying than being banned from GLB, simply because of all his stupid comments that BEG for a response.
Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.
by DbacksSkins on Jun 13, 2008 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Okay, as I can't watch the game
I have to say that there is a movie on the Disney Channel called, “Double Teamed” color me amused.
I have been colonized.
Sounds dirty.
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by DbacksSkins on Jun 11, 2008 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Thats why I'm amused.
It was horribly boring though. About twins who played basketball against each other.
Can I turn back yet?
I have been colonized.
Lame.
Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.
by DbacksSkins on Jun 11, 2008 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
If you weren't always ignoring me,
you’d know that I had already made an off-color joke of that nature.
Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.
by DbacksSkins on Jun 11, 2008 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions
fernando tatis
seems like he dropped off the face of earth 5 years ago and is now back in the majors
by CPAYNEonaplane on Jun 11, 2008 10:42 PM EDT reply actions
Okay
Now let’s get some offense going!
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IAWTC
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by DbacksSkins on Jun 11, 2008 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Apparently, you dare.
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by DbacksSkins on Jun 11, 2008 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Claudio!
I did like him when he played for us. But let’s beat him like a pinata.
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he was a very up and down pitcher if i remember right. very mehh
by CPAYNEonaplane on Jun 11, 2008 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
I don’t remember him being particularly good….
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by DbacksSkins on Jun 11, 2008 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions
He was, as I recall, damn lucky
I seem to remember him doing just enough to get the win in several games the first season we acquired him.
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just watched Reynolds HR
what a blast… Luv Ya Reynolds
- The Question is: What is manah-manah?
- The Question is: Who cares!?
so many flukey hits tonight for both sides
by CPAYNEonaplane on Jun 11, 2008 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions
That's really cool.
O-Dawg just got a single, and a bunch of Mets fans came over to Hudson’s parents to say congrats.
Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.
I think that guy played with Hudson
In college. At least, that is what Suton said.
I have been colonized.
Ah, that would also explain it.
I didn’t catch that.
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by DbacksSkins on Jun 11, 2008 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions
CoJack up to bat with 2 on in the 13th.
I wouldn’t have it any other way.
Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.
FUCK.
GIDP.
I have a feeling that was our last chance.
Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.
by DbacksSkins on Jun 11, 2008 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Dunno about that.
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by DbacksSkins on Jun 11, 2008 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Hmm?
Reference to….?
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by DbacksSkins on Jun 11, 2008 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah,
I haven’t decommissioned ALL my F-bombs, obviously.
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by DbacksSkins on Jun 11, 2008 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Dangit
GIDP, and I gotta listen to the smug blind guy? Come on, people.
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heart of the order comin ed-gon
bring the a game
by CPAYNEonaplane on Jun 11, 2008 10:54 PM EDT reply actions
if we lose this game
the infield’s bad fielding deserves the blame. take them out for infield practice tomorrow morning!
by CPAYNEonaplane on Jun 11, 2008 10:57 PM EDT reply actions
butf
the offense sucked ass too.
by emilylovesthedbacks on Jun 11, 2008 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Usually
you give up 3 runs and you win the game.
Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.
by DbacksSkins on Jun 11, 2008 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Argh Reynolds.
Anyone think we can actually get Wright to GIDP here?
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Heh
They just said Wright is seen as a hitter with
Currently blaming the D-backs struggles on: this pain in all the diodes down my left side.
a hitter with blank?
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by DbacksSkins on Jun 11, 2008 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Whoops, hit enter too soon.
They said Wright’s a hitter known for his ability to identify a pitch. I had to laugh, because I just imagine him having a ball thrown passed him and saying, “Yeah, yeah, that was a pitch.
Currently blaming the D-backs struggles on: this pain in all the diodes down my left side.
Can you see Wright
at a police station, being shown a lineup of baseballs, saying, “THAT one. That’s the one.”
Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.
by DbacksSkins on Jun 11, 2008 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions
For once, yeah.
Less cowbell.
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by DbacksSkins on Jun 11, 2008 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Absolutely
There was a certain excess of cowbell at the game we went to in Tampa, too.
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CoJack’s in left field.
Currently blaming the D-backs struggles on: this pain in all the diodes down my left side.
Wanted to get Reynolds, Tracy, and CoJack in the lineup.
CoJack started in LF tonight.
Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.
by DbacksSkins on Jun 11, 2008 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions
lol @
david wright slapping the bench in the dugout
by CPAYNEonaplane on Jun 11, 2008 11:03 PM EDT reply actions
Well
when you’re David Freaking Wright, it’s in extras, you’ve just gone 0-5 on the night and just missed about 4 meatballs, you’re gonna be pissed.
Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.
by DbacksSkins on Jun 11, 2008 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Aw, dangit
Currently blaming the D-backs struggles on: this pain in all the diodes down my left side.
When we didn't score in the top of the inning,
I knew that was it.
Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.
God.
Sometimes, I hate being right all the time.
Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.
by DbacksSkins on Jun 11, 2008 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s a burden you have to carry!!
It's like living with a six-year old.
by 4 Corners Fan on Jun 11, 2008 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I know. It's rough.
(I can just see Emily or dahlian or someone with a pin, about to pop my ego)
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by DbacksSkins on Jun 11, 2008 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions
haha.
you know me too well…
but i wasn’t going to say anything, surprisingly.
:-P
by emilylovesthedbacks on Jun 11, 2008 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah,
seemed like something you would do. ;-)
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by DbacksSkins on Jun 11, 2008 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions
No, you didn’t. You could not have “known” unless you’ve got that time machine working. You just had a feeling.
It's like living with a six-year old.
by 4 Corners Fan on Jun 11, 2008 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions
True,
but you might still want to get some stock tips from me.
FUCK.
GIDP.
I have a feeling that was our last chance.
Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.
by DbacksSkins on Jun 11, 2008 7:52 PM MST
Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.
by DbacksSkins on Jun 11, 2008 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
He also committed the error in that inning, though.
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by DbacksSkins on Jun 11, 2008 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Man, I go outside for just a MINUTE to put plastic on my tomato plants so they don’t freeze tonight, and I came back to this?? Arg.
It's like living with a six-year old.
Freeze? Really??
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by DbacksSkins on Jun 11, 2008 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes, how obnoxious is that? We’re supposed to be 27 degrees overnight. It’s June, for gosh sakes!!
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by 4 Corners Fan on Jun 11, 2008 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Damn global warming....
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by DbacksSkins on Jun 11, 2008 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
No, it's clearly global warming.
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by DbacksSkins on Jun 11, 2008 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I had a professor
Who firmly doesn’t believe in global warming, so I have way too much knowledge on both sides.
Seriously, every time I hear stuff my brain swells and wants to explode.
I have been colonized.
I think
this is clear evidence that the summer is turning to winter and the winter is turning to summer.
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by DbacksSkins on Jun 11, 2008 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions
there ya go...
here’s where we popped the ego…
;-P
by emilylovesthedbacks on Jun 11, 2008 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions
It was very, very, tongue in cheek. Don't worry.
Sorry, Emily. That wasn’t it.
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by DbacksSkins on Jun 11, 2008 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions
let’s get some rest and come out swinging tomorrow morning/afternoon
by CPAYNEonaplane on Jun 11, 2008 11:08 PM EDT reply actions
at least Webby didn't take a tough loss
- The Question is: What is manah-manah?
- The Question is: Who cares!?
Felt inevitable
Really, we should have been done and dusted 4.5 innings ago. Surviving this long is something of a miracle.
yeah,
it was nice to see a good bunch of extra innings, though.
but really.
edgar gonzalez in a tied, extra innings game?
wtf was bomel thinking?
or was he?
by emilylovesthedbacks on Jun 11, 2008 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
well then what was last night?
certainly not a save situation…
by emilylovesthedbacks on Jun 11, 2008 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions
A bit unnecessary,
just getting some work in for Lyon, I guess.
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by DbacksSkins on Jun 11, 2008 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess he’d already warmed up, so they ran him out there? And they didn’t have anyone else ready? Don’t know.
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That's a good point.
I guess it was only 6-5 going into the 9th.
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by DbacksSkins on Jun 12, 2008 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Rather lose it in extra innings than get shut out in regulation, personally. At least they made a fight of it.
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Agreed.
Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.
by DbacksSkins on Jun 11, 2008 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions
The mad scientist's
- doesn’t work in 2008.
When it comes to extra innings, the guy couldn’t manage his way out of a wet paper bag. Having Qualls bat for himself was another stroke of brilliance.
Qualls batting
was only forgivable because there was nobody on base with 2 outs.
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by DbacksSkins on Jun 11, 2008 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions
at least 2.0:
Corinthians (São Paulo biggest rival) lost the Copa do Brazil 5 minutes ago… just to even my feelings ^^
- The Question is: What is manah-manah?
- The Question is: Who cares!?
Glad to hear it.
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by DbacksSkins on Jun 11, 2008 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Why pitch Cruz and Scherzer for short innings.
If those guys pitched a inning more, we could have had Pena and Qualls for a couple more innings.
I do what I can, sometimes more, depends on the situation.
Scherzer pitched 2 innings, didn't he?
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by DbacksSkins on Jun 11, 2008 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions
and to add insult to injury...
they didn’t say hi to us.
:(
sad day.
by emilylovesthedbacks on Jun 11, 2008 11:13 PM EDT reply actions
But that doesn't take away from the fact that they couldn't score until the ninth and couldn't score in extras.
I do what I can, sometimes more, depends on the situation.
Yup.
Against a pedestrian group of pitchers (being charitable here) like the guys we saw tonight, there is NO WAY we should have been shut out for 26 outs.
The offense remains the issue.
Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.
by DbacksSkins on Jun 11, 2008 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
bitching about bullpen usage after they threw seven scoreless in a hostile environment before yielding the game winner seems misplaced to me.
Fun game, unfortunate result.
by Diamondhacks on Jun 11, 2008 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I bitch because it's so clearly illogical
but BoMel has now down it twice – both in losses.
If we’re going to lose in extra innings, I would at least prefer it not happen with our best reliever never getting off the bench.
The offense sucks to, but as someone with no hitting skills to speak of I don’t think I can come up with any critiques that would be worth a shit. It’s much easier to correct to a manager that flat-out doesn’t give his team the best chance to win in an extra inning game.
I understand
the basic leverage argument, but like any theory, it’s based on assumptions – assumptions that may not fit the Diamondbacks very well.
One assumption is that a “best reliever” has been clearly identified as you have done with Lyon. I’ll concede he’s put on a very nice run, but most folks projected Brandon to regress to a 4.00 ERA (something he still could do) , and he struggled in early April. For much of this year, Chad Qualls was our “best reliever” – until he was the worst. My point is there’s no Mariano Rivera here, head and shoulders above everybody else, and if the Dbacks contrive a “best reliever” merely to fit a theoretical role instead of on overwhelming, sustainable merit, that may be counterproductive, like trying to time the stock market based on past results.
I’ll tell you a guy who’s head and shoulders above the other relievers who we should use in every high leverage situation. Brandon Webb :-) We laugh because it’s obvious that doing so, in the long run, would be counterproductive to long range team goals, even if it improved our chances of winning a particular game. This isnt Game 7 of the World Series and Melvin is managing a season, not individual winner take all victories, exacted at any cost. The costs of moving a reliever around (as opposed to a starter) arent as obvious, but I suspect they may still be substantial.
I like Lyon’s makeup and think the personality that makes him a good closer might also serve him well in the flexible role you envision. But if you make Lyon flexible, then you make other RP’s, with different makeups, flexible as well. Great on paper, but these are human beings and I’m not sure that kind of arrangement is in the long term interests of the team. Someone worse than Lyon has to close out wins – on the road in hostile territory. Solid pitchers no longer work through their own messes because now that’s Brandon’s job? Until, presumably, he turns into Chad Qualls.
If you’re going to lose in extra innings, I would at least prefer it not happen with our best reliever never getting off the bench.
We both think Lyon gives us at least a slightly better chance to win in a given situation, but this is actually a big philosophical difference between us. “If we’re going to lose”, I would much prefer it happen without “wasting” our best reliever, (because very often that’s what you’d be doing) , potentially compromising win preservation for another day.
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