Diamondbacks 1, Cubs 3: "IUAFD SOIJ FOIJEAFOIJ OIJDOSI"
Record: 22-13. Pace: 102-60. Change on last season: +3
Your attention please. During the early stages of today's Gameday Thread, a picture was posted which contained a small typographical error. A corrected version of this photograph follows below. We apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused.
The quote that form today's title is courtesy of Dahlian in the Gameday Thread, and eloquently captures the frustrating nature of today's defeat. Either that, or a cat wandered across his keyboard. I can cope with Byrnes' relentless recent streak of suck: he's now 5-for-50 in the past dozen games, with no walks or extra-base hits and 12 K's. But today, his flamboyant flailing at strikes finally caught up with him in the eighth inning, and set a new nadir. The victim was Augie Ojeda, who'd singled to lead off [in a one-run game, mind], but was called out as he stole second, on catcher interference by Byrnes. Eric's violent afterswing was judged to have blocked the Cubs' catcher's attempt to nail Ojeda, wiping the tying run off base. Yes, Byrnes is the only player we have who can strike out into a double-play... :-(
And it started so well too, with Chris Young homering in the first inning, which must have brought back memories to the Cubs faithful, since he did exactly the same thing in the same stadium, the last time these two teams met, in what turned out to be the finale of the 2007 NLDS. We sat back, and waited for the offense to kick the door in against the shaky Lilly.
And we waited.
And we waited.
But nothing showed up. We had two-out hits. We had runners in scoring position. We just never quite managed to combine the two, and get hits on the rare occasions we had runners in scoring position. Our best chance was probably the fourth, where Jackson walked, then stole second [as pointed out in the Gameday Thread, he is 3-0 in stolen bases this year, better than a certain someone's 4-2...] with no outs. However, Upton, Reynolds and Snyder all went down swinging. Conversely, the Cubs did their damage the hard way. After Haren had fanned the first two hitters in the fifth, DeRosa doubled, and Johnson was intentionally walked to get to the pitcher...who promptly drove in the tying run with a single. An RBI double then gave the Cubs the lead, and inevitably led to some second-guessing of Melvin, especially since Haren had retired 15 of 17 hitters when the walk was called for.
Said Melvin, "You've got to. In a 1-0 game like that, you have to. Johnson's hitting [.346] with runners in scoring position and if Johnson gets a hit there, I feel worse than I do. You've got to make the pitcher beat you in that situation." This is where I point out a) the evidence for clutch hitting is scant at best, b) and becomes basically non-existent, when your sample-size is 26 at-bats. Yes, that .346 figure is based upon exactly nine hits for Johnson with RISP this year. S'funny: 26 at-bats are sufficient to get a guy an intentional walk, but almost twice as many are apparently not enought evidence to merit moving a certain someone down the order. This is one aspect of Melvin's managerial style that drives me nuts: the abuse of stats, such as batter vs. hitter match-ups, to decide lineups and tactics. In this case, it bit him in the ass.
Good outing by Haren; if only he could have got the last out in the fifth. Up until that point, his stuff was nasty and causing a lot of problems for the Cubs hitters. He pitched seven innings, allowing just those two fifth-inning runs, on a total of five hits, two walks and five strikeouts. The Tribune reports that Haren actually lost 10 pounds in weight, after he went down with an upper respiratory infection earlier this season - that'd be the one providing all those "flu-like symptoms." And, quite probably, the same one currently treating my upper respiratory system as some kind of biological theme-park. "I felt great. I’m finally getting back to normal," he said after the game. Encouraging to see: I particularly liked the solid groundball-flyball ratio of 11:5 posted by Haren today.
Cruz pitched the eighth and final inning to the Cubs hitters, and performed his one-man version of The Good, the Bad and the Ugly. The good would be the three K's; the bad, the homer allowed to Lee; the ugly, probably the two walks and two hits he gave up, but as the homer was the first of these, he sauntered off with the bases loaded and no further damage down. Still, that's 12 walks and 17 strikeouts in only 13.2 innings: there's rarely nothing eventful about a Juan Cruz relief appearance. Nothing much to write home about at the plate, as we managed only four hits and two walks, while fanning twelve times. Jackson was the only player to reach safely more than once, getting both free passes.
I do wonder why Burke got the start - he went 0-for-3, to reduce his season average to .140, while Ojeda has his pinch-hit single, increasing his BA to .368. One also questions what purpose Robbie Hammock serves on the roster, now he has apparently fallen out of favor as Randy Johnson's personal catcher. In seventeen games the D-backs have played since Hammock's last start, he has just five plate-appearances - and three of those were in the extra-inning defeat to the Padres on the 26th. Speaking of catchers, Chris Snyder gets props, saying he has worked with hitting coach Rick Schu: "Chris’ bat speed is really good when that (left) shoulder really stays closed and his hands work," Schu said. Whatever they're doing is clearly working.
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Master of his domain: Dan Haren, +9.2%
God-emperor of suck: Eric Byrnes, -13.2%
Only two D-backs made it into positive territory win-wise: Haren, despite being tagged with the L, and Jackson, at +4.7%. The WP dip in the eighth inning will henceforth be known as the Byrnes Trench. Thanks to those who skipped work or otherwise made it the day game this afternoon. Present, at least in spirit, at Wrigley were: El Stuart, 4 Corners Fan, kishi, njjohn, hotclaws, foulpole, Turambar, isoldout, singaporedbacksfan, IndyDBack, dahlian, Craig from Az, TwinnerA, Augie's Army, shoewizard, DbacksSkins, Azreous, Snakebitten, Xeifrank, snakecharmer, peeklay, manphibian, srdmad and soco.
Another day game tomorrow, with Scherzer getting his second start - hopefully with better results. Disturbing to realize that we just lost the game pitched by our best starter this series, but it looks unlikely to lose us any real ground, as the Astros are 6-0 up over the Dodgers with two outs in the bottom of the seventh. And with that, I'm off to dose myself with NyQuil and go to sleep!
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Let's not get too down on our selves
the game was terrible, too many strikeouts killed the Diamondbacks today, but hardly the end of the world yet.
The boys in Sedona Red slugged it out with a pretty pesky poltergeist, then stayed on to dance the night away with some of the lovely ladies who witnessed the disturbance.
by soco on May 9, 2008 5:33 PM EDT 0 recs
I don’t know Jim. We agree on some things and not on others. I hope that this doesn’t get me booted from this site but I think that this picture and caption are very tacky. What is this? A NY newspaper?
C’mon.
by foulpole on May 9, 2008 5:40 PM EDT 0 recs
Look at the stats, though
You all know that I love Eric Byrnes - I have his jersey and sometimes I even watch his show - but he really is having a horrible time. He can’t hit anything! Given that picture of him; probably looking up at one of his many many pop-ups; I think the caption fits. It’s sad and funny and all too true at the same time.
And your comment is perfectly fine. You have the right to think it’s tacky.
It's like living with a six-year old.
by 4 Corners Fan on
May 9, 2008 5:58 PM EDT
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Bam Bam is definitely struggling at the plate and now seems to be pressing. However, he does bring some very solid D to the park everyday. Where’s the pic today’s Web Gem catch?
That’s the beauty of a very solid defensive player. Even when they are struggling at the plate, they are bringing value on D every day that can help the squad win games.
by foulpole on
May 9, 2008 6:16 PM EDT
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At what point does being an offensive (no pun intended) liability outweigh his merits in the field?? I really think that he needs a couple of games off to get his head back together, and hopefully he will snap out of this terrible funk.
Oh, and as tacky as I think the caption might be, it’s still morbidly funny.
by IndyDBack on
May 9, 2008 6:38 PM EDT
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I would not disagree that Bam Bam could use at least a day or two off to get his ”...head back together…” and rest up his hammies. We face Dumpster tommorow but have a very tough lefty on Sunday. Is Sally really that good against LHPs?
These guys play almost every day and sometimes it’s tough to give someone ”...a couple of games off…”
I think that BoMel is a very solid Manager and I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt. He has a lot more info than I do.
by foulpole on
May 9, 2008 6:49 PM EDT
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You've never answered
why it is you give BoMel the benefit of the doubt when it comes to not resting Byrnes, but still scream bloody murder when Gonzalez gets the start over Scherzer. In that instance do you actually have more info than BoMel does?
It’s not tough to give a left fielder a couple games off. Salazar is a capable back up who brings his defense every day and gives you good at bats against righties. This decision has all the difficulty of checking the media guide to see what handedness the next day’s starting pitcher has. But for some reason, be it either arrogance, ignorance or simply pandering to his “star” player, BoMel refuses to make the completely obvious move.
by dahlian on
May 9, 2008 6:55 PM EDT
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My bad.
I thought that we were facing a LHP on Sunday. Great time to give Bam Bam a blow and get his head and hammies straight.
by foulpole on
May 9, 2008 7:56 PM EDT
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"At what point does being an offensive (no pun intended) liability outweigh his merits in the field??"
Apparently there is none. But in Foulpole world we do know the point at which a player’s defensive liabilities outweighs their offensive liabilities.
Where’s that point? Conor Jackson and Justin Upton.
If only we could unload those two hacks for Tony Clark and a clone of Eric Byrnes, there’d be nothing standing in the way between the 2008 Diamondbacks and a World Series win.
by dahlian on
May 9, 2008 6:50 PM EDT
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I think you are overstating Byrnes value on D. He plays LF, the 2nd easiest defensive position, and with his hamstrings he hasn’t really looked much more than slightly above average so far this year imo. That catch today was pretty, but I think a healthy Byrnes, or Salazar (or Young or Upton of course) catches that ball fairly easily without even having to dive.
If he’s healthy he’s one of the best fielding LF’s in the game (a lot of that due to so many mediocre to horrible defenders playing purely for their bat standing out there), but he clearly isn’t healthy right now.
by manphibian on
May 9, 2008 6:44 PM EDT
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I think you are overstating Byrnes value on D.
If he’s healthy he’s one of the best fielding LF’s in the game
Well, with Bam Bam in LF, CY in CF and J-Up in RF, we basically have three CFs in our outfield. While J-Up still has a lot to learn, it give us the best wheels in the NL in the OF. That saves a lot of extra pitches that our pitching staff does not have to throw.
In a perfect world, we would have the best D on the planet baseball and then we could even place one more position player on the roster and not have to carry 12 pitchers.
Is Ed-it’s -Gon really worth that much on the 25 man now? We have a banged up O-Dawg that will probably not be put on the DL, Bam Bam’s hammies are sore, and CJ couldn’t play yesterday, for obvious reasons.
by foulpole on
May 9, 2008 7:13 PM EDT
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You know what else saves a pitcher's arm?
Offense.
With a Quentin-Young-Upton outfield we’d have two centerfielders and two absolute cannon arms on the corners. We’d also have a likely above-average offensive center-fielder and two corner outfielders that can mash the ball like an all-star first baseman.
If you’re capable of consistently putting crooked numbers up on the board you limit the number of high stress innings a pitcher has to work through like when they’re staked to a one-run lead. “Pitching to the score” is often over-stated, but I have no doubt that the ability to pitch to contact without worrying that one bad pitch can result in a loss takes a lot of stress off a pitcher’s arm and psyche.
by dahlian on
May 9, 2008 8:03 PM EDT
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You're banned
:) Just joking. No-one will ever be banned here simply for disagreeing. You are perfectly entirely to your opinion: however, this is not CNN or ESPN. I am a lot more emotional than that; I love it when any of our players do well; I hate it when they fail. The site has and always will reflect that: If you want a bland recounding of events, without passion (good or bad), go find the AP recap. :) As 4 Corners Fan said, “It’s sad and funny and all too true at the same time.” Hell, even the reader comments on the game over at AZCentral.com [and they’re the same chattering classes which demanded the extension] want action.
I particularly hate it when players fail for reasons that are entirely in their control, such as Byrnes’ flamboyant and over-extravagant follow through on strike three today. He’s the best-paid position player on the team; I think it’s reasonable to expect him not to behave like a little leaguer – “Look at meeee! I tried really hard but struck out!” . Which is where the pic is coming from: having lampooned Lilly for behaving in that way, he responded in the best possible fashion – with his performance. Let’s see Byrnes do that – and I promise I’ll be delighted to lolback his first walk-off home-run.
by Jim McLennan on
May 9, 2008 6:55 PM EDT
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Well, on that other site, I was told though an PM by one of the mods to “fight fire with fire” and took that to mean that if someone gave me shit then I should give it right back. That resulted in the big boot. But I was never that boken hearted about it as that other board seemed to be getting very negative and abusive about almost eveything anyway.
Glad to hear that you’re not gonna boot me because there seems to be some very upbeat D-backs fans here.
It’s all good.
(But I still think that that pic and caption sucks) . :-)
by foulpole on
May 9, 2008 7:41 PM EDT
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Is that right?
A guy posting said that Byrnes on Bickley’s radio show said something to the effect of “most guys would be sitting with the injury I have?”
It’s one thing to say this when you’re Albert Pujols and are able to rake while needing Tommy John surgery, but I give a player no credit for playing through an injury that makes him a below replacement value player. That’s when a real team player would suck up his pride and ride the bench for a while.
by dahlian on
May 9, 2008 8:13 PM EDT
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But in deference...
To your views, I have amended the picture. :-)
by Jim McLennan on
May 9, 2008 7:33 PM EDT
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How about we let someone else provide the humor, and at a “rivals” expense, then we can all be happy…
http://www.theonion.com/content/infograph/barry_zito
(If you don’t regularly read The Onion, you should)
by manphibian on
May 9, 2008 7:37 PM EDT
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That’s what I’m talking about. And is Hairston gonna be the regular in CF for the Padres now that Edmonds was cut loose?
Give me a fricken break!!! What a weak defensive OF. lMAO!
by foulpole on
May 9, 2008 7:52 PM EDT
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Oh baby… great stuff. Thanks manphib
"There are only two seasons: winter and baseball"
-- Bill Veeck
by njjohn on
May 9, 2008 9:30 PM EDT
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putputputputputputputput
I suggested , now that we are rumored to be for sale , that both Barrys step up with an employee ownership angle. God knows they can afford it , and Bonds can end the lockout by signing himself!
Aaron "Swag" Rowand
by victor frankenstein on
May 9, 2008 10:04 PM EDT
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Does that look like a bad call by the blue to you?
How much room do we have to give the catcher?
BOOO!!!
by foulpole on
May 9, 2008 8:10 PM EDT
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Doesn’t even get a hit and still gets a DP.
But the value he brings to the team goes so far beyond that. Gotta love that.
by unnamedDBacksfan on
May 9, 2008 8:16 PM EDT
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He has to stay inside the batter's box.
He clearly did not do that.
by dahlian on
May 9, 2008 8:17 PM EDT
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I liked the first one better
This one - the flail - tells the story of just one at-bat. The other - the fail - is far more representative of EB’s struggles. Although it is impressive to get a double play on a strike out. Grrrrrrrrr.
It's like living with a six-year old.
by 4 Corners Fan on
May 10, 2008 2:34 PM EDT
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It's not large enough for an LOLbak
but this will always be the iconic Byrnes picture to me:

Same form, presumably same result – but how often do you get photos like that with everyone everyone in the shot looking up at the same thing?
by dahlian on May 9, 2008 6:01 PM EDT 0 recs
Jim,
what’s with this “no comment” stuff? Not to toot my own horn, but I think the best title for this game recap is “IUAFD SOIJ FOIJEAFOIJ OIJDOSI”
It really does an excellent job of capturing the moment.
by dahlian on May 9, 2008 7:03 PM EDT 0 recs
And I am not suppose to Boo,
I’ve got absolutely nothing nice to say about EB, so I will leave at that.
Great pictures though, truth hurts and so will 3 years of this.
by unnamedDBacksfan on May 9, 2008 7:46 PM EDT 0 recs
I’ll admit, I laughed at it. Actually, that shouldn’t be past tense, ‘cause I laugh every time I scroll up to look at the picture.
Byrnes has been performing terribly lately, but at least now there’s some value in it. Thanks, Jim.
"Look, I'm not a financial expert or anything, but I'm pretty sure that a zeppelin is an excellent investment opportunity."
by kishi on May 9, 2008 8:19 PM EDT 0 recs
From the Fun With Win Percentage Department, congratulations to Jonathan Papelbon and Jason Isringhousen, who both started the ninth inning with a one run lead, and both gave up two out, two RBI singles for the loss. They both take home win percentages of -79.1%. That’s impressive.
"Look, I'm not a financial expert or anything, but I'm pretty sure that a zeppelin is an excellent investment opportunity."
by kishi on May 10, 2008 1:21 AM EDT 0 recs
How can anyone disagree to walk Johnson and face Lilly instead.
If Lilly would have gotten out, this would never have come up. Only when something goes wrong do people question it.
Brandon Webb, do I need to say more?
by srdmad on May 10, 2008 12:47 PM EDT 0 recs
Not the decision, as such...
More the reasoning which explained it. You don’t need to drag in clutch hitting in that case. “Lilly is a career .126 hitter.” There you go. Case closed.
by Jim McLennan on
May 10, 2008 1:47 PM EDT
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Maybe Melvin was trying to justify himself, because his decison didn't turn out the way he thought it would.
If he would have just said Lilly is a 126 career hitter and that was his reasoning, everyone would be saying that you need more reasoning to do that.
Brandon Webb, do I need to say more?
by srdmad on May 10, 2008 1:57 PM EDT 0 recs
My new nickname for Byrnes is gonig to be "The Hammer"
The great thing about that picture is that it looks like you’ve taken a stock photo of Soto throwing and photoshopped a picture of Byrnes busting out into an M.C. Hammer-inspired break dancing routine.
And one thing is most certainly true -Byrnes can’t touch this.
by dahlian on May 10, 2008 4:54 PM EDT 0 recs















