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Diamondbacks 8, Phillies 3 - Webb's nine wins his eighth

Record: 23-12. Pace: 106-56. Change on last season: +4.

Outside of a somewhat wobbly top of the first inning, where our defense again gifted the opposition a run, this was just what the doctor ordered. Brandon Webb gave the bullpen a much-needed day off, with his first complete game of the season, and the offense came through, providing plentiful run support - they've scored eighteen runs for their ace over his last two starts.

Webb was particularly dominant through the first eight innings, allowing only an unearned run. That came as the result of a passed ball by Chris Snyder, through Burke should also have made the play at first, and there could have been a twin-killing during the inning. However, Webb settled down and retired 16 of 17 Phillies, the only one to reach being Bruntlett, hit by a pitch. He had a three-hitter going, entering the ninth: while he did see to flag somewhat there, allowing two runs on three hits, he finished off by getting another double-play with his 104th pitch, to complete his 13th career complete-game.

His final line was six hits, no walks and four strikeouts over the nine innings, with three runs allowed, two earned: up until the final stretch, this was probably his best outing of the year so far. Even so, it still runs Webb's record to 8-0, a stunning achievement given that no-one else in the National League has more than five wins so far. That's also Brandon's tenth victory in a row, the longest run in the National League since John Smoltz won eleven consecutive games for Atlanta near the start of 1996. The only other NL pitcher to reach double-digits over the past 30 years, is Andy Hawkins, who matched Webb, with ten straight in 1985.

After the Phillies took the lead, Arizona jumped right back out there, on Young's two-run homer in the bottom of the first. his eighth of the year, giving him the team lead. But it was in the fourth where the D-backs really blew things open, scoring four times on three hits, two walks, an error and a sacrifice fly. Chris Snyder had the key knock, a two-run double, which meant he went 10-for-24 on the homestand, with six RBI. Over the twenty games he's played after his batting average sunk to .083 on April 11, Snyder has hit .357. It's time for him to be moved out of the eighth spot, and get more use out of his offense.

On the other hand, let us now speak of Eric Byrnes,, who went 0-for-5 this afternoon, and was saved by a Jenkins error from hitting into a double-play. That reduces his season average to .232 - startling, given that he was batting .293 on April 26, less than two weeks ago. Since then, he is 5-for-46, with no walks or extra-base hits, one RBI and ten strikeouts. He batted leadoff for the D-backs today, and was the only position player a) not to get a hit, and b) not to drive in or score a run. There are really only two possibilities left: he's injured, or he sucks. In neither case, should he be in the top third of the batting order any longer - yet as I mentioned in the Gameday Thread, the worse he gets, the higher up the order he moves. His OBP is now below .300, the worst of the regular eight starters. Much as I love Byrnes...he's killing us.

There were a couple of interesting changes in the lineup today, one of them enforced by the absence of Jackson and Hudson, but the other was more optional. Chris Young started out of the lead-off spot for the first time this season, and was in the three-hole instead, somewhere he was last seen late in 2006. And behind him, making his debut batting fourth, was Justin Upton: how many teams have a 20-year old in the clean-up slot? Seemed to work pretty well for both of them: they combined to go 3-for-7 with three runs scored and three driven in, and each had a homer.

Upton's line for the season is now .344/.407/.566: I know it's early, but if he sustains an OPS of .973 by the end of the year, it'll be the fourth-best ever by a player his age. He'll be trailing Ted Williams (1.045 in 1939), Alex Rodriguez (1.045 in 1996) and Mel Ott (1.084 in 1929). Even if he loses a hundred points of OPS the rest of the way, that'd still be second only to A-Rod since 1959, when Vada Pinson put up a .316/.371/.509 year for the Cincinnati Red. Today, however, Mark Reynolds was the star, getting his first three-hit game of the season; we'll even forgive Webb going 0-for-4 with five men left on base. Happy to take the complete game any time.

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Master of his domain: Brandon Webb, +17.8%
Honorary mention: Chris Young, +15.3%
God-Emperor of suck: Chris Burke, -7.2%

The afternoon game inevitably affected Gameday Thread attendance a bit, and perhaps there was a hangover from yesterday's fiasco too. I managed to sneak in for a bit at lunchtime, and also present were paqs, Bcawz, unnamedDBacksfan, soco, El Stuart, IndyDBack, kishi, dahlian, Craig from Az, Lisalisa8 [welcome!], 4 Corners Fan, hotclaws, SongBird, peeklay, Azreous, Smoltz's Beard, dstorm, DbacksSkins and singaporedbacksfan. And, hey, no irritating Dodgers fans to be found...and I so wanted to use the ban button for the first non-spamming time on SB Nation 2.0! We'll see what happens tomorrow, but bear in mind that it's another day-game: indeed, more of a morning game here in Arizona, so I will have to remember how to get something up before starting work!

Looks like there'll be no DL for Hudson, with Melvin saying before today's game, "At this point, I look to start [Hudson] Saturday, but he's in a pinch-hit role today and tomorrow." I hope that is indeed true, though I have heard an over-optimistic prognosis out of Melvin before in this case. Conor Jackson also looks to be ready to return, and could have been used as a pinch-hitter today had he been needed. "I'm surprised my arm is OK, to tell you the truth," he said. "I think that kind of took the brunt of it, but the helmet got me pretty good right below the temple, kind of in the orbit of the eye. I never lost consciousness, but I was definitely seeing stars." Remember, folks: please don't try those kind of moves at home, because Conor Jackson is a trained professional... :-)

Here's a reminder of something from last December by Nick Piecoro, which will probably have you gnawing off the odd limb in frustration. "Can you believe what Cliff Lee has been doing? The guy goes into New York last night and improves to 6-0 with seven shutout innings. And to think the Diamondbacks nearly had him. Twice. They were close on a deal last year at the All-Star break and then again prior to the winter meetings. Both deals were built around Carlos Quentin." Yes, the same Quentin whom we eventually handed over to the White Sox for an A-ball first-baseman... Sleep well, folks: see you in Chicago tomorrow!

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We’re supposed to sleep well after reading that bit from Piecoro? Jim you are, I am certain, many things, but a medical professional is obviously not one of them…

"Look, I'm not a financial expert or anything, but I'm pretty sure that a zeppelin is an excellent investment opportunity."

by kishi on May 9, 2008 12:38 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah, seriously. Thanks a lot, buddy. :)

by peachy rex on May 9, 2008 12:46 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Lead-off hitting

I’m a bit perplexed as to what we do here—I really do like CY in that spot – I like having speed, a good eye, a good OBP, and power…. but CY probably only has 2.5 of those – and for some reason he won’t run much….

Byrnes has the speed, but has a little problem with actually hitting the baseball consistently.

Maybe Drew?

So in my best Eva Peron voice, I offer the question,

Where do we go from here?

by dstorm on May 9, 2008 12:57 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

In the short term, perhaps the Littlest Leadoff Hitter? His numbers have been excellent in limited action, but he doesn’t have the kind of power the young guys do, so we wouldn’t be sacrificing anything by moving him up.

by peachy rex on May 9, 2008 1:12 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Don't push your luck with Augie

what he’s done the last few days isn’t very predictive of what he’s going to do tomorrow.

At this point, he should probably be batting eighth – maybe seventh if BoMel would ever realize the fact that Byrnes isn’t a top of the order hitter.

Now that BoMel has had a minor epiphany and will consider using CY in a non-lead off capacity, this is what comes to mind:
Drew
Upton
CY
CJ
Snyder/Reynolds
Reynolds/Snyder
Augie
Byrnes (once he proves he can hit again, put him in the 6th or 7th hole)

When Hudson comes back I’d consider hitting him anywhere from third to fifth or sixth – depending on what the opponent reliefs corps looks like. If they have a Chad Bradford-esque righty killer, then it would be nice to break up the righties.

by dahlian on May 9, 2008 2:15 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Jackson might be a good 2 spot guy

considering his good eye and approach. Get him on for Young and Upton to feast on, and then Hudson to mop up the damage.

The boys in Sedona Red slugged it out with a pretty pesky poltergeist, then stayed on to dance the night away with some of the lovely ladies who witnessed the disturbance.

by soco on May 9, 2008 2:17 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I actually find

Upton’s approach and eye to be one of the better ones on the team. Even though they’re both hitting out of their minds right now, CJ is more likely to keep it up over the long haul. He’s also more consistent at putting the bat on the ball – his ten strikeouts are the fewest on the team – something that is a definite asset when you need to knock those runners in.

Of course, what do I know? I was going to write that it would be better to put Upton up higher because it seems like sometimes he presses when runners are on base. However, looking it up I see that in 22 ABs with RISP Justin is hitting .318/.379/.636 with six strikeouts and four walks. Another one of those instances where you see what you’re expecting to see and remember what previously thought to be true.

Just for fun: Conor’s no slouch with RISP either. In 34 at bats he’s hitting .382/.488/.647 with four strikeouts, four walks and four(!!!) hit by pitch.

by dahlian on May 9, 2008 2:47 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That’s true (and I did say “limited action” not so?), but the key point was “short term” – Augie won’t be in the lineup at all once Hudson is back. And my point was, that with the possible exception of Drew, all of the younger guys have enough power that they’re better positioned further back in the order, whereas Augie is of limited value in the middle no matter how hot he is.

If Melvin is willing to slot him second, why not take a flyer on first?

by peachy rex on May 9, 2008 2:38 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Even in the short term,

I think it’s just better to have him hit in the bottom of the order so he doesn’t come up to hit as much.

Hell, maybe we could pull a Larussa and use him as our second lead off hitter.

by dahlian on May 9, 2008 2:50 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Idealy

they need to start considering either putting Byrnes on the DL if he’s injured, or moving him further down in the lineup, perhaps to 7 or 8. It’s not going to happen, but one can always hope.

The boys in Sedona Red slugged it out with a pretty pesky poltergeist, then stayed on to dance the night away with some of the lovely ladies who witnessed the disturbance.

by soco on May 9, 2008 2:13 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

One more thing to be irritated about re: Quentin. Fabulous.

As for lead-off…. Shrug. I really think CY might be more productive elsewhere. You know, where there are actually runners on base when he homers. But Byrnes is definitely not the answer. Maybe we should try Drew? Shrug.

I work tomorrow, so no game thread for me. Since I won’t be around, I want to wish Webby an early Happy Birthday! Hope his 29th year is even better than his 28th.

by SongBird on May 9, 2008 1:59 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Maybe

Drew
Jackson
Young
Upton
Hudson
Reynolds
Snyder
Byrnes

The boys in Sedona Red slugged it out with a pretty pesky poltergeist, then stayed on to dance the night away with some of the lovely ladies who witnessed the disturbance.

by soco on May 9, 2008 2:16 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Let's not get carried away

Yes, CY hit a nice homer, but his other at-bats were not good, he swings at waay too many bad pitches.

I’d try Drew-Hudson-Upton-Jackson-Young-Reynolds-Snyder-Popup

by paqs on May 9, 2008 3:35 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hacksie

could never take enough pitches to bat eighth.. all of those pitch-arounds to get to the pitchers will become strike outs or tumble down the elevator shaft. he needs to either hit seventh or make way for… romero?

by leemellon on May 9, 2008 12:05 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I can’t imagine what has been said between Byrnes (Josh) and Moorad behind closed doors. The only good thing that we can hope comes out of the Quentin debacle is that Moorad has learned a hard lesson in trusting Byrnes in baseball decisions. Watching Quentin rake right now is very painful… I’ve never been sorrier to be so right (well, maybe with Uggla… although I think Quentin will far surpass Uggla shortly).

I don’ t understand why Hudson isn’t going on the DL and why Byrnes hasn’t gotten more time off to rest/heal. I’m not happy how BoMel is treating these injuries. Unfortunately I think Burke’s incredible ineptitute is playing a role in these moves. BoMel doesn’t feel that he has enough depth (if Hudson and Byrnes are out then our bench is paper-thin with Salazar and Augie in the starting lineup). I really think Hudson needs to see the full 15 day DL (he’d only have 8 or so days left)... and Byrnes needs to ride tne pine and rest up.

"There are only two seasons: winter and baseball"
-- Bill Veeck

by njjohn on May 9, 2008 6:49 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Dear Richie Sexson,

Go find your manhood, you freaking stiff – - seriously, charging the mound on a high pitch over the plate ??

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080509&content_id=2667691&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb

by IndyDBack on May 9, 2008 8:53 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I've always liked the wway the D'backs

don’t retaliate after getting HBP,it’s much cooler to stay calm, take the base and let someone belt you home.

We will meet in Red 3 at the hour of scampering.

by hotclaws on May 9, 2008 11:50 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I

would love a nice bench clearer..

by leemellon on May 9, 2008 12:06 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think if they didn't clear the bench during the Dodgers series

When CoJack got plunked umpteen times, then they’re not likely to clear it anytime soon.

Don't blink; blink and you're dead. Don't turn your back, don't look away, and don't blink. Good luck!

by Stile4aly on May 9, 2008 3:32 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Man, he can’t hit a pitch or a pitcher these days…

"Look, I'm not a financial expert or anything, but I'm pretty sure that a zeppelin is an excellent investment opportunity."

by kishi on May 9, 2008 11:58 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Really, I imagine this situation is due to the whole Mariners team is rather frustrated right now (2-8 in their last ten) and Sexson, especially (3-19 in the month of May). Not the way to deal with it, obviously, and I think management needs to do something to get them settled down.

"Look, I'm not a financial expert or anything, but I'm pretty sure that a zeppelin is an excellent investment opportunity."

by kishi on May 9, 2008 12:12 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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