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Diamondbacks 4, Phillies 5: A birthday to remember...

Record: 22-12. Pace: 105-57. Change on last season: +4

The term 'Pyrrhic Victory' originates with King Pyrrhus of Epirus, whose army defeated the Romans at Heraclea in 280 BC and Asculum in 279 BC during the Pyrrhic War - however, the cost of the victories was so high that Plutarch quotes Pyrrhus as saying after the second battle, that one more such victory would utterly undo him. Hence, a Pyrrhic victory is one where the cost to the victor is greater than the cost to the loser. Never say this site is not educational. Tonight, however, we managed a Pyrrhic loss: we took all the damage, and still didn't even come up with the win.

Leading off the eighth, Victorino struck out against Qualls, but Snyder couldn't hold onto the ball and it slid away from him. The speedy Phillies leadoff hitter whizzed towards first and our catcher grabbed the ball and unleashed what we used to call, in my days as a soccer fan, a "hospital pass" to Jackson - that's one which puts the recipient into immediate physical danger. He tried to grab the ball but the result was simply a hellacious collision as our first baseman basically clotheslined Victorino, in a manner usually reserved for wrestling pay-per-views, with Victorino's helmet also slamming into CoJack. Both players went down; eventually, Victorino made his way up, but Jackson had to be helped from the field, ending his 26th birthday in a disturbing fashion. There's still no word on his status at time of writing.

That proved to be a turning point: the Diamondbacks entered the inning with a 4-3 lead, but the Phillies scored twice against Qualls and Cruz, to take over. Arizona had a chance to pull things back, after Snyder led off the bottom of the eighth with a double: however, he didn't get to move any further, as Montero flew out, Young struck out and Ojeda grounded out. Lidge came on in the ninth, and retired the side 1-2-3, to end it. It seemed like the departure of Jackson, seemed to suck out the life from Arizona, which is somewhat understandable. Mind you, it was hard to tell: the cable at The Sets was playing up, turning the broadcast into a surrealist mosaic of freeze-frame and strobe effects. It adds a certain Zen-like quality, when the picture jams in the middle of a pitcher's delivery, or just as the batter hits the ball. It turns the game into an edition of "What Happened Next?" - Was that a line-drive or a pop-fly?

Micah Owings was solid, giving the Diamondbacks a quality start, with three earned runs over seven innings, on only four hits and two walks, with seven strikeouts - the most K's since his first start. He seemed to be doing a much better job on the mound than his last couple of outings, which is good to see: with a little more offense, or even a little more luck, he could have picked up his fifth win of the season. Instead, the bullpen got tagged with the loss: that's a somewhat rare event, which has only happened five times in the first thirty-four games of the year. However, Chad Qualls now has three of those L's - despite still having an ERA below one. Nobody else in the majors with that many losses, has an ERA less than three [Roy Halladay is 3-3 with a 3.00 ERA].

Plenty of hits in a losing cause: thirteen in total. It's a statistical oddity, that our past seven losses have seen us total 70 hits, compared to only 62 hits in our past seven victories. Young, Ojeda, Jackson, Salazar and Snyder had two hits apiece, with Snyder also adding a walk. As noted yesterday, our catcher is finally beginning to hit like he was in spring training, and I would like to seem him moved higher up the order. Salazar got the start, replacing an outfielder - though, perhaps surprisingly, it was Upton rather than Byrnes. Eric went 1-for-5, but did steal a base, and scored the go-ahead run in the seventh to give us a 4-3 lead. He was driven in by Jackson, who had two RBI and was also hit by a pitch for the fifth time, in a fairly-eventful game all round...

Hooray. Reports now say it looks like Jackson is okay. He says , "I’m all right, just a little headache. Just kind of a flukey play I guess you could say. I’m all right, though. I’m nauseous, a little headache." I imagine we can probably expect to see a chalk outline on the grass next to first-base at Chase tomorrow. That sniggering sound you can hear from the far side of the diamond, is Mark Reynolds, unimpressed by Jackson's wimpy approach to adversity. "That's nothing," says Special K, "When I was in Double-A, I had my head entirely severed from my body during one game, and I still went 2-for-4 with a run driven in."

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Master of his [somewhat woozy] domain: Conor Jackson, +26.1%
Honorary mention: Chris Snyder, +19.0%
God-emperor of suck: Chad Qualls, -47.3%

The injury to Jackson, combined with the loss, obviously cast a damper over proceedings in the Gameday Thread. Present last night were dahlian, hotclaws, snakecharmer, soco, Silverblood, foulpole, dstorm, Wimb, unnamedDBacksfan, LucaMaz3, Bcawz, kishi, luckycc, singaporedbacksfan, RAMJB, mrssoco, Turambar, IndyDBack, 4 Corners Fan, DbacksSkins, srdmad, TwinnerA and paqs. RAMJB is straying perilous close to sanction, for an ongoing series of remarks which seem nothing but deliberate attempts to provoke reactions. Well done to people for not responding: only the current downtime of the SB Nation site for a RAM upgrade probably saved RAMJB from an official warning. I will monitor the situation more actively today, as I can be around during things. Note, it's a day game, so bear that in mind!

Finally, various bits of team news. The D-backs and Webb are back in contract talks, with the aim being for the Diamondbacks to lock in the ace through 2013. No specifics, but "Some progress has been made," according to Webb. "We've made some headway. We'll see where it goes." And O-Dawg's status remains uncertain. The team are giving it 24 more hours, and will put him through his paces before this afternoon's final game of the series. If Melvin reckons Hudson is okay, he'll be kept on the roster, but probably only as a pinch-hitter for the series in Chicago. If not, then it could be DL time. And Doug Davis is scheduled to make his first rehab start for Tucson on Saturday. He will throw 80-85 pitches, then 100 pitches next week, all being well.

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Frustrating loss, this one

I’m surprised you’re not harder on Snyder. Qualls pitched fairly well, and struck out 3 batters, but thanks to a passed ball (not the only one in the inning btw), he was tagged with another loss.

I think it’s safe to say that without Victorino reaching, Bruntlett wouldn’t have doubled (as we were playing bunt coverage) and we’d probably get out of the inning unscathed.

This makes me sad. I’m no stat geek but it would be interesting to see how many teams have lost 3 or more games due to unearned runs, as opposed to just stats that outline the number of errors and unearned runs.

by paqs on May 8, 2008 6:36 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Montero v. Snyder when Owings Pitches

I wanted to rant about this after the Mets game as I thought Montero did not call a good game with Owings (that made two in a row) and in turn Owings got lit up. I decided to hold off until I saw Owings pitch again with Snyder to see if it was really the catcher or if it was that the opponents figured him out (as the last two games were the two bad games).

It seems as though the problem is with Montero. Now, I know Owings missed his spots at times during the SD and NYM games and I also know that this is a very small sample set, but it is interesting to look at the stats for when Snyder(and Hammock for one game against LAD) catches Owings v. Montero catching Owings.

I did a very quick lookup on baseball reference and found the following. Seems interesting to at least watch as the season goes on.

Owings numbers when caught by the following:
Snyder/Hammock Combo 4-0 33IP 10ER 2.72ERA
Montero 0-1 10.2 IP 11ER 9.28ERA

The BA was much higher as well, but I’ll be honest, I didn’t feel like calculating it…

Anyone else notice this?

by peeklay on May 8, 2008 11:59 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yep

Someone brought it up last week. It’s a good point.

by paqs on May 8, 2008 12:33 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Question:

I’m getting ready to go out or I’d look it up myself. I can do that later, but I am curious to know about Randy and Snyder, has Snyder ever caught a game for Randy? If so, how do the numbers compare with his preferred catchers?

by unnamedDBacksfan on May 8, 2008 1:05 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hard to say

Snyder caught him eight times last year [and five more in 2004, but we should likely ignore that]. Johnson’s line there was .231/.274/.320. That’s a better OPS than either catcher has managed this year, but Johnson is still rounding in to form, so that makes the comparison difficult.

by Jim McLennan on May 8, 2008 1:15 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's seems harsh

to tag last friday’s performance on Montero. It was clear that Owings had no control whatsoever and shouldn’t have been greenlighted to start.

For what it’s worth, Owings has said that he feels extremely comfortable working with Montero.

by dahlian on May 8, 2008 9:10 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Bitter beer face:

pretty much the picture of me after this loss. I only caught maybe 3 minutes of the game, but felt like a very frustrating loss from reading the game thread.

by unnamedDBacksfan on May 8, 2008 1:07 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Another thought

Qualls pitching on zero days rest [like last night]
4.2 IP, 7 H, 3 BB, 5 R, 2 ER
Qualls pitching with rest::
15.1 IP, 4 H, 6 BB,. 3 R, 0 ER

Small sample size to be sure, but as with the catcher thing, worth keeping an eye on. I looked at 2007 for him as well: half the earned runs (14 of 28) he allowed came on zero days rest, but that was only responsible for 32% of the innings he pitched.

by Jim McLennan on May 8, 2008 1:10 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good one

There’s no reason not to go with Cruz there.

Another question. Why in the world was Montero not bunting in the 8th with Snyder on 2nd and no outs? We needed to get than run over to 3rd and in.

by paqs on May 8, 2008 1:41 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Interesting comments.

Tough loss all around. Probably worse than the Mets loss on Sunday. So maybe Melvin will have Snyder always catch Owings, and Montero work with RJ? Work the younger guy with the experienced one (although Snyder is still young). Not a bad idea.

by Bcawz on May 8, 2008 3:10 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Glad to hear the team is negotiating with Webb already. I feel a bit attached to him now. I’d be sad to have made Webby pitch during that 2004 season only to lose him when the team finally gets good again. I hope the team can cough up a bit more for him. Somehow I don’t think $5.5 million is going to cut it much longer.

by SongBird on May 8, 2008 7:59 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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