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Diamondbacks 4, Phillies 11: Max Pain

Record: 21-11. Pace: 106-56. Change on last season: +5

For the first ever, I am writing the game recap while it's still taking place. This was pretty much an abomination on a whole number of levels. We came into it with such high expectations, but the reality check came hard and fast, as first-round pick Max Scherzer was cruelly exposed. By the end of three innings, Scherzer had allowed seven hits, a walk, a hit batter and thrown a wild pitch as, with the aid of some more sloppy defense, Arizona had dug themselves a 5-1 hole - one from which they never looked remotely like escaping. Instead, this turned into amomg the biggest drubbings of the season to date. Not quite what we were hoping for, then...

After his debut, certain posters disagreed with me (using various degrees of sarcasm)  for questioning whether Scherzer was quite ready, mentally, to face major-league hitting. It gives me no pleasure to say, "I told you so." He has a nice fastball, to be sure, touching 98 mph, but that isn't enough to get you past a lineup of major-league hitters who have a scouting report, particularly when you can't throw anything else for a strike. They just sit, wait for the fastball, and dispatch it as appropriate. In contrast, Jamie Moyer was nowhere near Scherzer's raw stuff - if he threw anything that touched 90 mph, I must have missed it - but hit his spots, mixed things up, and kept our batters off-balance for seven flummoxing innings. The difference was, Moyer pitched, while Scherzer just threw

A few words on our defense: hang on, let me just look up "inadequate" in my thesaurus. Drew made his fourth error, Reynolds his seventh - the latter is now on pace to make 35 this season. Now, I'm the first to say that errors are not a great measure by which to judge...well, anything much, but I think it can hardly be argued that he's been done a dis-service. Another four unearned runs were coughed up by the defense today, giving us 25 on the year to date, tied for the most in the majors. Someone who looked extremely uncomfortable out there today was Orlando Hudson. Despite claims to the contrary, he was very clearly not back to full health; his appearance yesterday was not misleading there. As Mark Grace said, would we rather have Augie Ojeda out there at 100%, or Orlando Hudson at 50%?

Because "50%" is an adequate description of O-Dawg's pace down the first-base line as he grounded into a double-play in the sixth. We'd got the first two on, after singles by Young and - hey! - Byrnes [it's a sad day when the most well-paid player on your roster going 1-for-4 is a pleasant surprise...], and with the score only 5-1 at that point, we had a chance to come back into the game. However, Hudson killed the rally, with extreme prejudice, and the Phillies poured on another four runs in the next half-inning.

Scherzer did get through the fourth without further issue, but had to be lifted, having reached his pitch count - he finished on 92. Ironically, it was Edgar Gonzalez who took over in long-relief, reversing the roles which the two played last week. EdGon posted zeros for two innings, but then gave up the aforementioned four-spot in the seventh, mostly because an ill-advised dive by Upton missed the ball entirely, turning it into a bases-clearing triple. What little was left of our Win Probability at that stage - and it was already down to 5.7% - made its excuses and bolted off to beat the traffic, as that made the score 9-1 to Philadelphia. Slaten and Medders completed the mop-up duty necessary.

We made the score fractionally more respectable by scoring two runs in the ninth, and somehow managed to get eleven hits. On the other hand, we went without a single walk, for the first time in 67 consecutive games (including the post-season), going back to August 29th last year. Young, Upton and Drew had two hits each, and Snyder swatted his second homer of the year. Our catcher is quietly getting back into the groove we expected: after hitting a startling .083 through the first ten games, Snyder put together a line of .326/.421/.587 before tonight's bomb, and has reached base safely, with a hit or a walk, in seventeen consecutive starts. [In three games, he came in as a late-inning replacement] It may be time to think about moving him back up the order, especially considering the struggles of some of our other hitters.

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Master of his domain: Stephen Drew, +11.0% [shurely shome mishtake?]
God-emperor of suck: Max Scherzer, -31.4%

Don't look now, but the Dodgers hammered the Mets and are only three games behind us. Somehow, we still have the best win percentage in the major-leagues, but can anyone honestly say it feels like that right now? Certainly, many more nights which combine bad starts, poor hitting and defensive mis-handling, and we won't even have the best record in the division... Fascinating thread over at DBBP, where Levski discusses the team problems., that I commend to all interested parties. It's not time to panic yet, but if Hudson, Byrnes and Owings continue to be run out there hurt, then the comfy cushion which we built up in April may soon be replaced, by the cold, hard plastic found in a doctor's waiting-room...

I'll confess, I bailed out of this one early, and wouldn't blame anyone else who did so too. We ended a little short of 500 on the night: thanks to foulpole, dahlian, soco, snakecharmer, RAMJB, hotclaws, DbacksSkins, 4 Corners Fan, Turambar, unnamedDBacksfan, pvlas [welcome], LucaMaz3, TwinnerA, Muu, kishi, srdmad, Azreous, mrssoco, TexSkins and likeavirgin [I'm confused...but welcome!]. soco gets the award for Commentor of the Game, with more posts than anyone else [thanks to 'charmer's roll-call script, I can now see these things!], but picked up the evening's only recommendation for his stalwart defense of the beautiful game. :-)

And off to bed. Here's to better things tomorrow, though with a Randy Johnson start, I think I can hear the bullpen wheezing...

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IMO, this whole game was Stinko-De-Mayo.

by foulpole on May 6, 2008 2:33 AM EDT   0 recs

You hadn't said that enough

in the gameday thread….

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 6, 2008 3:05 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

You posted that

Three times in the Gameday Thread, once in the Augie Ojeda thread, and now again here.

If you’d stuck at once, I might actually have used it…

by Jim McLennan on May 6, 2008 3:06 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

i have been accused of being redundant accused of being redundant accused being redundant more that once more than once in the past in the past.

I’m not sure why? ;-)

by foulpole on May 6, 2008 3:59 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Who knows.

I’m sure the Department of Redundancy Department will investigate.

by Azreous on May 6, 2008 4:58 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Upton

Justin Upton has hit in 6 straight games. Four of those have been multi hit.

It’d be nice to see him contend for a batting title this early in his career.

by TheNaturalMevs on May 6, 2008 10:25 AM EDT   0 recs

+1

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 6, 2008 11:05 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Please add a P.S. to have some extended fielding drills also. Thank you.

by TwinnerA on May 6, 2008 4:28 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

AMEN!!

+10

I have been hesitant blaming Melvin for anything (success breeds silence), but the past few days have been maddening – - if the players are obviously injured, sit their butts down!! I don’t care if Byrnes is a “gamer”, his gimp legs and weak-azz bat do not help the club whatsoever! Same for Hudson – was there any doubt at all watching him play last night that he is still not close to 100%?? Augie & Salazar are more than adequate replacements, but it’s almost as though Melvin is too scared to rock the boat.

Yes, it’s still early, but why give up a big lead in the division when you don’t have to??

by IndyDBack on May 6, 2008 3:44 PM EDT to parent up   1 recs

Yeah

And he sucks too.

Bob Melvin Sucks

by nihil67 on May 6, 2008 5:41 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Scherzer

I saw everything I needed to see last night. He’s going to be an awesome closer. I just don’t see how he can develop the control to ever be an effective starter.

Bob Melvin Sucks

by nihil67 on May 6, 2008 11:38 AM EDT   0 recs

I am not going to jump to conclusions after one start. If Brandon Webb and his sinker had been knocked around in his first start, would the brass have relegated him to the bullpen for good? I doubt it. Let’s give him a chance.

by TwinnerA on May 6, 2008 12:02 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Remember that B.Webb's control was AWFUL

in the minors and in his early years in the majors…

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 6, 2008 1:31 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Sure

But Webb had controllable mechanics. What are you going to do, tear Scherzer’s delivery apart and make him start over?

Bob Melvin Sucks

by nihil67 on May 6, 2008 5:37 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Too early to tell

If Drew doesn’t boot that ball at short I think it’s a whole different game for Mad Max – He still has a ways to go but his raw stuff is very impressive. I think we need a few more starts to really draw any near-term conclusions.

by dstorm on May 6, 2008 12:13 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Yes... Stehpen Drew's error... wait...

What does Stephen Drew have to do with Max Scherzer’s control? Is he causing his violent delivery?

Bob Melvin Sucks

by nihil67 on May 6, 2008 5:35 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I didn't think Scherzer's control

was awful – it wasn’t great, but he was just being hit hard. So when you have a hard hit ball to the infield they need to make plays. If Drew makes that play maybe we’re talking about a 6-inning, 2 run effort from Max, with a win.

by dstorm on May 6, 2008 6:03 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

The back-end of our rotation

Concerns me of late. Over the last five starts outside of Webb and Haren [2 by Owings, 1 each by Johnson, Gonzalez and Scherzer], we have the following lines:

Apr 26: Owings, 5 IP, 5 H, 3 BB, 5 R, 5 ER
Apr 29: Gonzalez, 2.2 IP, 8 H, 2 BB, 6 R, 6 ER
Aprl 30: Johnson, 4 IP, 9 H, 0 BB, 6 R, 6 ER
May 2: Owings, 5.2 IP, 10 H, 3 BB, 7 R, 6 ER
May 5: Scherzer, 4 IP, 7 H, 2 BB, 5 R, 2 ER

That averages out at only 4.1 IP per start, with 8 H, 2 BB, 6 R, 5 ER and an overall ERA of 10.55. Needless to say, that is not quite the level of performance we want…

by Jim McLennan on May 6, 2008 1:11 PM EDT   0 recs

Pitching is always a concern

But I think that three pitchers out of Owings, Johnson, Davis, Sherzer, and EdGon is not bad odds. I know we all have (had?) visions of a 6 deep pitching staff where everybody was going at least 6 innings each time out and providing a quality start, but that’s probably not realistic. While it’s doubtful our back end is as good as it looked for most of April, it’s probably not as bad as it has looked the last couple weeks.

by Craig from Az on May 6, 2008 2:17 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Justin's Dive Last Night

ONe other comment – Jim kind of bashed Upton for his diving attempt last night that led to 3 runs for the Phils, but I think it was the right play. There were 2 outs and the bases loaded, so the runners were off at contact. If he stays back and plays it on a hop, the Phils still get 2 runs and the game is probably out of reach. If he makes the catch, we’re still iln the game. Replays show he was there, but the ball went just below his glove. I think it was the right play – although it would have been nice if he had made the catch, of course!

by Craig from Az on May 6, 2008 2:20 PM EDT   0 recs

Lately it just seems that all the plays are wrong. Rats!

by TwinnerA on May 6, 2008 3:02 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Ouch

Have been away since Friday and just checking on things via the Blackberry, all sounds a bit painfull :(

by Wimb on May 6, 2008 4:59 PM EDT   0 recs

Whoa...

who told you that you can leave??

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 6, 2008 6:27 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

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