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Gameday Thread, #52: 5/27 vs.Giants

San Francisco Giants at Arizona Diamondbacks, May 27, 2008 9:40 PM EDT


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Tim Lincecum
RHP, 6-1, 2.17

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Dan Haren
RHP, 5-3, 3.39

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Back home, and back into the NL West: both should provoke a sigh of relief from the Diamondbacks.  We're a mediocre 11-13 on the road so far - though that's still better than the Cubs away from Wrigley Field. We're also a rather worse than mediocre 8-15 outside of our division, which is beginning to become more than can be hand-waved away and blamed on the vagaries of the schedule to date.

Still, this should prove to be a respite, since on this homestand we face first the Giants and then the worst team outside the NL West, the Washington Nationals. We should be looking to go 4-2 over this stretch - though, being honest, tonight might not be one of those four victories. Lincecum and his 6-1 reocrd has been about the only thing standing between San Francisco and last-place, and has given them nine quality starts in a row.

Not that Haren is far behind, with eight quality starts so far - last time out was not one, however, despite striking out a season-high eight. He was tagged for three runs in the seventh, and got absolutely no run support at all, as we fell to the Marlins, 4-0. The road-trip was not kind to our bats, as we hit only .211 during those seven games, though did have ten homers. We'll be hoping that our own friendly confines help reawaken the hitters: if they can do so against a tough pitcher like Lincecum, it'll be a good omen for the rest of the homestand.

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Let’s get Romero, Salazar and Tracy in the line up vs the tough RHP. Then we could have 5 out of our 8 position players batting from the left side with O-Dawg and Wolf. Heck, maybe even sneak Miggy in there too.

by foulpole on May 27, 2008 8:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Or even better yet…

C Miggy LHB
1b Tracy LHB
2b O-Dawg LHB/switch
3b Augie LHB/ switch
ss Wolf LHB
LF Romero LHB
CF Young RHB
LF Sally LHB

by foulpole on May 27, 2008 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Foul

Why do you think that the left-handed Romero, with all of 10 at bats in the major leagues, would have greater success against Tim Lincecum than Justin Upton?

Also, Lincecum’s career numbers
vs. RHB – .238/.312/.337
vs. LHB – .214/.299/.391

by dahlian on May 27, 2008 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

errr....

Looks like the title is a bit off: should be Giants instead of Phillies

"There are only two seasons: winter and baseball"
-- Bill Veeck

by njjohn on May 27, 2008 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I changed it,

but you’ll need to reload it to see it.

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 27, 2008 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

sorry about that... just saw all the other comments to that effect.

"There are only two seasons: winter and baseball"
-- Bill Veeck

by njjohn on May 27, 2008 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

playing the Phillies huh?

Baseball season, when everything becomes right in the world.

by seton hall snake pit on May 27, 2008 8:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Changed.

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 27, 2008 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Today’s lineup:

C. Young cf .243
S. Drew ss .281
O. Hudson 2b .300
C. Jackson 1b .298
C. Tracy 3b .250
J. Upton rf .281
M. Montero c .310
J. Salazar lf .286
D. Haren p .143

Trace gets the start at 3b, Miggy is our backstop and Sally gets the nod in LF against the RHP. 5 out of 8 position players are LHB/switch.

by foulpole on May 27, 2008 8:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Those other guys:

F. Lewis lf .269
R. Durham 2b .283
R. Winn rf .295
B. Molina c .327
A. Rowand cf .329
J. Bowker 1b .250
J. Castillo 3b .257
O. Vizquel ss .234
T. Lincecum p .250

by foulpole on May 27, 2008 8:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Where's a grassy knoll when you need one? :-)

Apropos of nothing in particular, when we drove up the 51 just now, we noticed it was eerily deserted in the other direction, and police were blocking off the entrances. At first, we thought it was an accident, but then we about a dozen cops on motorcycles riding abreast down the freeway, in front of more cops, then some black limousines, and even more cops behind them. Yes, we just came within about 60 feet of the most powerful man in the Western world. No, not Bud Selig: it was President Bush, on his way from a fundraiser at the Biltmore back to the airport. Kinda cool.

by Jim McLennan on May 27, 2008 9:11 PM EDT reply actions  

They blocked off a ton of the freeways apparently

thank G-d I work not far from my place.

The boys in Sedona Red slugged it out with a pretty pesky poltergeist, then stayed on to dance the night away with some of the lovely ladies who witnessed the disturbance.

by soco on May 27, 2008 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bud and dubya are pretty much the same in my book. Both of them are giant douches that hold positions that they are not qualified for, look out for their interests much more than they do the interest of the greater good and are quick to point fingers at others for their screw ups.

Enough about them. Let’s play ball!!!

by foulpole on May 27, 2008 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Was in DC once

and saw the 3 VH-3 helicopters (Marine One and two decoys) when the two peeled off, leaving Marine One to land at the White House. Was pretty cool.

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 27, 2008 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

soco's keys to the game

1) Finish dinner
2) Finish thank you cards while watching the D’backs
3) Dessert?

The boys in Sedona Red slugged it out with a pretty pesky poltergeist, then stayed on to dance the night away with some of the lovely ladies who witnessed the disturbance.

by soco on May 27, 2008 9:21 PM EDT reply actions  

mrssoco's keys to the game

1) Finish dinner you made for me
2) Dance cause thank you cards will be done
3) Revel in your awesomeness while hopefully catching some glare from the awesomeness of the Dbacks. :D

I have been colonized.

by mrssoco on May 27, 2008 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I get the AZ feed today! Sweet!!!

Time to pound the Giants into submission.

by foulpole on May 27, 2008 9:31 PM EDT reply actions  

It'll be a

low scoring game it bet. or it should be.

As long as the good guys win, I don’t care if it’s 1-0.

Reach for the sky 'cus tomorrow may never come,

by unnamedDBacksfan on May 27, 2008 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Any idea what the over/under is?

by foulpole on May 27, 2008 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

haven’t seen one yet…..

Reach for the sky 'cus tomorrow may never come,

by unnamedDBacksfan on May 27, 2008 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Foul, I'm genuinely curious

Why do you think that Romero would have a better chance against Lincecum than Upton?

by dahlian on May 27, 2008 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

So Drew's an okay player, I guess

The boys in Sedona Red slugged it out with a pretty pesky poltergeist, then stayed on to dance the night away with some of the lovely ladies who witnessed the disturbance.

by soco on May 27, 2008 9:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Team positional player VORP leader!

by dahlian on May 27, 2008 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I take this back,

CJ has eked back out front 16.3 to 14.4.

Drew’s .326 OBP is the only thing holding him back.

by dahlian on May 27, 2008 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

A very solid 1-2-3 for Danny Boy!

by foulpole on May 27, 2008 9:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh man, Haren was ballin' this inning

Strikeout, groundout, strikeout.

The boys in Sedona Red slugged it out with a pretty pesky poltergeist, then stayed on to dance the night away with some of the lovely ladies who witnessed the disturbance.

by soco on May 27, 2008 9:44 PM EDT reply actions  

two Ks and only 12 pitches. That’ll work.

by foulpole on May 27, 2008 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Very nice first inning

Haren pounding the ball down in the zone, nothing leaves the infield and two K’s. Now, let’s see what our hitters do against Timcecum.

by Jim McLennan on May 27, 2008 9:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Very little, apparently.

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 27, 2008 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Since June is almost here

I hope it’s more like April than May for the Diamondbacks.

The boys in Sedona Red slugged it out with a pretty pesky poltergeist, then stayed on to dance the night away with some of the lovely ladies who witnessed the disturbance.

by soco on May 27, 2008 9:46 PM EDT reply actions  

A huge AMEN there!

Reach for the sky 'cus tomorrow may never come,

by unnamedDBacksfan on May 27, 2008 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

CY chases ball three for a groundout

The boys in Sedona Red slugged it out with a pretty pesky poltergeist, then stayed on to dance the night away with some of the lovely ladies who witnessed the disturbance.

by soco on May 27, 2008 9:47 PM EDT reply actions  

He did swing at a pretty ugly pitch.

by foulpole on May 27, 2008 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

As the pitch went home, I had one of those

“He won’t possibly at swing at tha…” moments.

by dahlian on May 27, 2008 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

And Drew quickly follows with an aggressive pop out

The boys in Sedona Red slugged it out with a pretty pesky poltergeist, then stayed on to dance the night away with some of the lovely ladies who witnessed the disturbance.

by soco on May 27, 2008 9:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice game plan,

swing at balls.

Now if we just had eight Vlad Guerreros on our team we might have a shot.

by dahlian on May 27, 2008 9:49 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

+1

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 27, 2008 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Linceum's not throwing many strikes

that’s something that needs to be jumped on STAT

The boys in Sedona Red slugged it out with a pretty pesky poltergeist, then stayed on to dance the night away with some of the lovely ladies who witnessed the disturbance.

by soco on May 27, 2008 9:49 PM EDT reply actions  

What??

Our team? Patient?? Fat chance.

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 27, 2008 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Solid single the other way for O-Dawg. He’s been pretty hot lately.

by foulpole on May 27, 2008 9:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Orlando, he's so hot right now, Orlando

The boys in Sedona Red slugged it out with a pretty pesky poltergeist, then stayed on to dance the night away with some of the lovely ladies who witnessed the disturbance.

by soco on May 27, 2008 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Poop, shallow fly out for CoJack.

The boys in Sedona Red slugged it out with a pretty pesky poltergeist, then stayed on to dance the night away with some of the lovely ladies who witnessed the disturbance.

by soco on May 27, 2008 9:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Bengie Molina lives in Yuma

but screw him.

The boys in Sedona Red slugged it out with a pretty pesky poltergeist, then stayed on to dance the night away with some of the lovely ladies who witnessed the disturbance.

by soco on May 27, 2008 9:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Damn

Bengie Molina..16 for his last 24!!??

"I'm sorry honey, I had to crash that Honda"

by acidtongue on May 27, 2008 9:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Ouch! Back to back singles off of pitches high in the zone. Bear down, Danny Boy!!!

by foulpole on May 27, 2008 9:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Miggy behind the plate is not nearly as good as Snydes. :-(

by foulpole on May 27, 2008 9:58 PM EDT reply actions  

was waiting for that

And give credit though to Snydes, the offense is really coming around now too.

Reach for the sky 'cus tomorrow may never come,

by unnamedDBacksfan on May 27, 2008 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Snydes is a stud in my book.

by foulpole on May 27, 2008 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

We know all about your book.

by dahlian on May 27, 2008 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Okay, Haren. You remember the first inning?

Do that again, instead whatever you’re doing right now.

The boys in Sedona Red slugged it out with a pretty pesky poltergeist, then stayed on to dance the night away with some of the lovely ladies who witnessed the disturbance.

by soco on May 27, 2008 9:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Arg, not the start I wanted to see

We will meet in Red 3 at the hour of scampering.

by hotclaws on May 27, 2008 9:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Tracy bobbles the ball a bit but doesn't give up the run or the baserunner

The boys in Sedona Red slugged it out with a pretty pesky poltergeist, then stayed on to dance the night away with some of the lovely ladies who witnessed the disturbance.

by soco on May 27, 2008 9:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice recovery

A weak throw, but an even weaker runner.

by dahlian on May 27, 2008 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

At least he didn't air mail it

The boys in Sedona Red slugged it out with a pretty pesky poltergeist, then stayed on to dance the night away with some of the lovely ladies who witnessed the disturbance.

by soco on May 27, 2008 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice job by Trace saying with that ground ball!

Sweet!

by foulpole on May 27, 2008 10:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Haren does his best Livan impression and gets out of the inning

The boys in Sedona Red slugged it out with a pretty pesky poltergeist, then stayed on to dance the night away with some of the lovely ladies who witnessed the disturbance.

by soco on May 27, 2008 10:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Good escape

By Haren. Nice work by Grace too, pointing out that the failure of Montero – who has apparently NEVER caught Haren – to block the splitter, might make Haren a little more loathe to throw it with runners on base down the line… That’s the kind of thing that earns his salary.

by Jim McLennan on May 27, 2008 10:02 PM EDT reply actions  

That's what earns Grace his salary or Haren?

The boys in Sedona Red slugged it out with a pretty pesky poltergeist, then stayed on to dance the night away with some of the lovely ladies who witnessed the disturbance.

by soco on May 27, 2008 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Grace.

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 27, 2008 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

And Webby (et. al.) too. Snydes’ D is sometimes underrated.

by foulpole on May 27, 2008 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just don’t tell that to Qualls.

by dahlian on May 27, 2008 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Play to your talent level, Upton

The boys in Sedona Red slugged it out with a pretty pesky poltergeist, then stayed on to dance the night away with some of the lovely ladies who witnessed the disturbance.

by soco on May 27, 2008 10:04 PM EDT reply actions  

cubs won

Come on guys, let’s start putting some distance with the rest of the West.

Reach for the sky 'cus tomorrow may never come,

by unnamedDBacksfan on May 27, 2008 10:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Pitch count only one off

between them so far…

Reach for the sky 'cus tomorrow may never come,

by unnamedDBacksfan on May 27, 2008 10:08 PM EDT reply actions  

pitch count through 2:

Haren 27
Timmy 26

by foulpole on May 27, 2008 10:08 PM EDT reply actions  

I like South Park

but screw them for Timmy.

The boys in Sedona Red slugged it out with a pretty pesky poltergeist, then stayed on to dance the night away with some of the lovely ladies who witnessed the disturbance.

by soco on May 27, 2008 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

S'all right,

just setting up the DP

Reach for the sky 'cus tomorrow may never come,

by unnamedDBacksfan on May 27, 2008 10:11 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah

We will meet in Red 3 at the hour of scampering.

by hotclaws on May 27, 2008 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

or not

Reach for the sky 'cus tomorrow may never come,

by unnamedDBacksfan on May 27, 2008 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stolen base, misplayed throw

The boys in Sedona Red slugged it out with a pretty pesky poltergeist, then stayed on to dance the night away with some of the lovely ladies who witnessed the disturbance.

by soco on May 27, 2008 10:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Another miscue by Miggy. :-(

by foulpole on May 27, 2008 10:13 PM EDT reply actions  

This is... what?

Miggy’s 4th year playing catcher?

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 27, 2008 10:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Ever?

The boys in Sedona Red slugged it out with a pretty pesky poltergeist, then stayed on to dance the night away with some of the lovely ladies who witnessed the disturbance.

by soco on May 27, 2008 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow, mad props to him

The boys in Sedona Red slugged it out with a pretty pesky poltergeist, then stayed on to dance the night away with some of the lovely ladies who witnessed the disturbance.

by soco on May 27, 2008 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, the Dbacks' organization moved him to catcher.

I don’t know what position he played when he was signed, though.

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 27, 2008 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

How does that work, I wonder

hey, you’re slow and we need more catchers, want to give it a shot?

The boys in Sedona Red slugged it out with a pretty pesky poltergeist, then stayed on to dance the night away with some of the lovely ladies who witnessed the disturbance.

by soco on May 27, 2008 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

And a walk

DP back in play

The boys in Sedona Red slugged it out with a pretty pesky poltergeist, then stayed on to dance the night away with some of the lovely ladies who witnessed the disturbance.

by soco on May 27, 2008 10:14 PM EDT reply actions  

sweet!

i hope

Reach for the sky 'cus tomorrow may never come,

by unnamedDBacksfan on May 27, 2008 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haren getting squeezed.

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 27, 2008 10:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Fly out to Sally, now we just need any out

The boys in Sedona Red slugged it out with a pretty pesky poltergeist, then stayed on to dance the night away with some of the lovely ladies who witnessed the disturbance.

by soco on May 27, 2008 10:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice job getting Winn.

Good throw to 3rd by Sally to freeze the runner.

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 27, 2008 10:16 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm sorry,

I know he’s on a hot streak and all, but I just can’t keep a straight face when I hear “Now you have to dig deep and find a way to get Bengie Molina”.

The man has a career OPS+ of 88.

by dahlian on May 27, 2008 10:17 PM EDT reply actions  

.340 BA with RISP.

I DO still laugh at the fact that the Giants have Bengie Freaking Molina as their cleanup hitter, though.

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 27, 2008 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

And, 3 run homer.

You were saying, dahlian?

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 27, 2008 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

poop

We will meet in Red 3 at the hour of scampering.

by hotclaws on May 27, 2008 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah don't mess with people from Yuma

what makes you think he won’t cut you?

The boys in Sedona Red slugged it out with a pretty pesky poltergeist, then stayed on to dance the night away with some of the lovely ladies who witnessed the disturbance.

by soco on May 27, 2008 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

166 at bats

and fanned only 10 times?

Reach for the sky 'cus tomorrow may never come,

by unnamedDBacksfan on May 27, 2008 10:17 PM EDT reply actions  

And a home run

The boys in Sedona Red slugged it out with a pretty pesky poltergeist, then stayed on to dance the night away with some of the lovely ladies who witnessed the disturbance.

by soco on May 27, 2008 10:19 PM EDT reply actions  

11-0

when timmy gets 3 or more runs to work with

Reach for the sky 'cus tomorrow may never come,

by unnamedDBacksfan on May 27, 2008 10:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Ouch! Bengie with the three run bomb.

Sheesh!

by foulpole on May 27, 2008 10:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Chances of us

Getting three runs off Lincecum?

Anyone? Anybody? Bueller?

by Jim McLennan on May 27, 2008 10:20 PM EDT reply actions  

We could do to him

what Pujols did to Chris White Young?

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 27, 2008 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm sorry, that's not funny.

Not really, anyway.

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 27, 2008 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

what’s our win probablitiy at right now?

Reach for the sky 'cus tomorrow may never come,

by unnamedDBacksfan on May 27, 2008 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

24%

At the end of the inning. However, that doesn’t take into account the quality of the opposing pitcher.

by Jim McLennan on May 27, 2008 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or any players, bullpen, batting order, bench, ballpark, righty vs lefty, pitch count, etc. etc. It’s pretty worthless in my book.

by foulpole on May 27, 2008 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now, which statistics

are NOT worthless in your book??

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 27, 2008 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bagging on win probability

is kind of pointless.

It’s just a fun little diversionary tool. What use it has is for overall trends, not specific predictive value.

Up next – searing commentary about the uselessness of Bill James’ Favorite Toy

by dahlian on May 27, 2008 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I imagine he'd be a pretty cool guy to talk baseball with

though with me it would be more of a monologue while I just listen.

The boys in Sedona Red slugged it out with a pretty pesky poltergeist, then stayed on to dance the night away with some of the lovely ladies who witnessed the disturbance.

by soco on May 27, 2008 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have a feeling

with MOST people it’d be a monologue.

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 27, 2008 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd hope so

The boys in Sedona Red slugged it out with a pretty pesky poltergeist, then stayed on to dance the night away with some of the lovely ladies who witnessed the disturbance.

by soco on May 27, 2008 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 27, 2008 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well...shit.

The boys in Sedona Red slugged it out with a pretty pesky poltergeist, then stayed on to dance the night away with some of the lovely ladies who witnessed the disturbance.

by soco on May 27, 2008 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

So, are the odds the same if the Cubs fall behind to the Bucs 3-0 as they are if the Bucs fall behind the Cubs 3-0 in the 3rd (leaving out any other nuances that apply)?

How does that make any sense?

by foulpole on May 27, 2008 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Because, over the course of baseball history

The team with a 3-0 lead wins (say) 76% of the time. That’s all Win Probability means.

It’s quite simple, really.

by Jim McLennan on May 27, 2008 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s so “simple” that it’s meaningless, really. ;-)

by foulpole on May 27, 2008 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dude,

it’s just a fun little toy. No one uses it as anything more.

Just because it’s similarly simple and useless doesn’t keep us from doing things like post a person’s BA in the lineup. Some things are just there for fun to keep things interesting.

by dahlian on May 27, 2008 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's at least objective and unbiased

It has rather more basis in fact than “3.5” assessments of certain outfielder’s performance though, wouldn’t you agree?

by Jim McLennan on May 27, 2008 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

IMO, It’s totally biased and nonobjective. It gives the same value to many different situations. It’s meaningless. But just because someone spits out “numbers” then it has to be true?

I’m not buying it.

by foulpole on May 27, 2008 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

"It gives the same value to many different situations"

In this case, that’s the definition of unbiased….

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 27, 2008 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

It IS true

In the sense that, in the same situation in the past, 76% of the time, the team leading has won. It’s like saying when you flip a coin, it has a 50% chance of being heads or tails. The specific coin you’re flipping here may not ever have been flipped before, but you can look at previous history and gauge from that the likelihood of future events. What, exactly, is “biased and non-objective” about that?

by Jim McLennan on May 27, 2008 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do you truly believe that tossing a coin is the same thing as baseball?

by foulpole on May 27, 2008 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

No,

but the principles of statistics are exactly the same, no matter what it is we’re comparing.

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 28, 2008 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sigh

I was trying to explain the basic principles involved, in terms simple enough for you to understand.

I clearly didn’t aim low enough. :-)

by Jim McLennan on May 28, 2008 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

I clearly didn’t aim low enough.

Well, “clearly” you are now resorting to personal attacks. So, does that mean that you win?

by foulpole on May 28, 2008 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe

you should just put him on iggy.

(To borrow your parlance)

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 28, 2008 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

No, I lose

Since I’m clearly wasting my time. If you’re not an idiot, the only alternative is that you are deliberately misinterpreting my efforts to explain things to you. Either way, I have better things to do.

by Jim McLennan on May 28, 2008 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

before he puts you on ignore, can you ask him some of the questions I’ve been asking him, but he just ignores?

by dahlian on May 28, 2008 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

You are the one that is trying to compare baseball to coin tosses. Not me. There are exponentially more variables to baseball then there are to coin tosses.

Baseball stats are not the law of gravity, true probability theory ( ie. a coin toss, a dice roll, etc) or physics.

To compare baseball stats to true science is, IMO, a very far stretch.

by foulpole on May 28, 2008 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

And....

at this point, he doesn’t have any idea what he’s talking about. Either that, or he still doesn’t understand what Jim’s saying.

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 28, 2008 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’d say slim. He’s give up 4 runs once, 3 twice, 2 twice, 1 twice and 0 twice this season.

by TwinnerA on May 27, 2008 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jim,

did you read Carlos Gomez’s story about the first time he met Lincecum?

by dahlian on May 27, 2008 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was a post on BTF,

I’m looking for it now, if I don’t find I’ll paraphrase later.

by dahlian on May 27, 2008 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here we go
Give you a little funny story on Lincecum. Got to see him pitch in Spring Training at the Giants minor league complex. He pitched against the High-A A’s. The Giants apparently don’t allow scouts down to field level, so I watched the game from a spot adjacent to the clubhouse where you have a view of two fields (and they have some stands set up where the rest of the spectators can watch…it’s cool). The Low A teams were playing against each other on the other field, so you get to see 2 games at a time.

Anyway, Lincecum throws his 5 or 6 innings. He puts on his flops, then heads to the clubhouse where he has to go up some steps up to where the small crowd (maybe 70 people) is….where we were all watching the game from. About 5 or 6 fans gather and ask him for autographs and such, which he graciously did.

Anyway, I tell myself, I gotta get a look at how big (small) this dude is, just to see who it is that I hyped so much…ya know? Just for my sanity. I kinda just mosey on over, trying to be all cool and subtle about it while he signs autographs…trying to get a read on height/weight and all that.

Get about 5-6 feet away and it hits me “Oh, my f$%k!, THIS is the guy that I put my reputation on the line for?”

I think that, had he not hit, I would’ve been laughed off this planet…LOL

I mean, this dude is like 5’9” 150. I towered over him…....

Thanks Timmeh. You made me look like a genius

by dahlian on May 27, 2008 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

Thanks. I liked Grace’s description, saying that if he was hanging around the locker-room, you’d think he was the bat-boy.

by Jim McLennan on May 27, 2008 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Quick question....

How do the Giants ever LOSE with Lincecum pitching??

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 27, 2008 10:23 PM EDT reply actions  

So far this year

They’ve lost three games he started, all of them by one run:
1) 3-2
2) By allowing four unearned runs
3) The bullpen gave up five runs in the last two frames.

by Jim McLennan on May 27, 2008 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gracie in agreement on the last pitch.

by TwinnerA on May 27, 2008 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Grace and Sutton

are commenting on the same.

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 27, 2008 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not going to make any excuses,

but it definitely seems like Lincecum is getting a bigger zone than Haren is tonight.

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 27, 2008 10:29 PM EDT reply actions  

It's a conspiracy,I tells ya

We will meet in Red 3 at the hour of scampering.

by hotclaws on May 27, 2008 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, bad luck.

Droo with a hard-hit lineout to Winn.

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 27, 2008 10:29 PM EDT reply actions  

What’s the win probability down to now? 1%?

by TwinnerA on May 27, 2008 10:33 PM EDT reply actions  

less than zero?

reminds me of a song….......

Reach for the sky 'cus tomorrow may never come,

by unnamedDBacksfan on May 27, 2008 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Another Giants homer.

4-0.

Looks like we got ourselves another losing streak.

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 27, 2008 10:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Poop poop poop

The boys in Sedona Red slugged it out with a pretty pesky poltergeist, then stayed on to dance the night away with some of the lovely ladies who witnessed the disturbance.

by soco on May 27, 2008 10:33 PM EDT reply actions  

and poop. One poop for each damn run given up so far.

by TwinnerA on May 27, 2008 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

:::::thud!!!::::::

wow!

another HR.

Radio guys seem very surprised at the home runs, didn’t think the balls were carrying that far.

Reach for the sky 'cus tomorrow may never come,

by unnamedDBacksfan on May 27, 2008 10:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Haren served up another meatball! :-(

by foulpole on May 27, 2008 10:34 PM EDT reply actions  

And so much

For stacking the lineup with lefties. 1-for-10 with a walk so far.

by Jim McLennan on May 27, 2008 10:35 PM EDT reply actions  

It's partially overrated, partially underrated,

The platoon advantage doesn’t make up for an inability to hit. But when it comes to your bottom-tier offensive players, you can get some added utility by accounting for handedness.

Specifically, there are some players that just mash lefties. For example, someone like Eric Byrnes has always been considered a good fourth outfielder candidate because his OPS+ is 33 points higher against lefties than righties.

But reading your comment again, I see that you’re specifically talking about LHB vs. RHB for whom, yes, there is a far less marked platoon advantage. So yeah, I concur.

by dahlian on May 27, 2008 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah,

I wasn’t making a statement on handedness in general—just LHBs vs. RHPs. RHBs vs. LHPs is quite a different matter.

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 27, 2008 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not so

NL batting splits
LHB hit RHP for an extra 57 points of OPS than RHB too. It’s even more pronounced against LHP, where RHB are 129 points better than LHB.

by Jim McLennan on May 27, 2008 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hmmm....

I wonder how much that has to do with the fact that there are far more RHBs than LHBs.

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 27, 2008 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shouldn't affect OPS

Even if the lowest case (LHB vs. LHP), you’re talking about 2,300 plate-appearances.

by Jim McLennan on May 27, 2008 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Except

that I would expect far more lousy RHBs in the league than LHBs; more than an equivalent percentage, anyway.

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 27, 2008 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually

I’d expect the reverse to be true. Would so lefties don’t need to be so “good”, since they have a natural advantage against the right-handed majority. Though against that, LHP vs. LHB has about 40 points less OPS than RHP vs. RHP. Be interesting to see how that split works with regard to starters and relievers.

by Jim McLennan on May 27, 2008 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hmmm....

You have a good point.

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 27, 2008 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

How many hits do we have so far?

by foulpole on May 27, 2008 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

2.

O-Dawg single, CoJack double.

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 27, 2008 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

2

Reach for the sky 'cus tomorrow may never come,

by unnamedDBacksfan on May 27, 2008 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

and until CJ’s, the only one came from a LHB.

by foulpole on May 27, 2008 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually, a switch-hitter,

who led our team in BA last year.

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 27, 2008 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

where did that 2-2 miss?

by foulpole on May 27, 2008 10:36 PM EDT reply actions  

How in the world did that one stay in?

Radio guys were positive that one was out.

Reach for the sky 'cus tomorrow may never come,

by unnamedDBacksfan on May 27, 2008 10:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Looked like it was.

Seems the Giants were able to bribe the umpires AND the wind.

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 27, 2008 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Damn

How can you compete with the umps and mother nature?

Reach for the sky 'cus tomorrow may never come,

by unnamedDBacksfan on May 27, 2008 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

You know what's causing those home runs?

Their biggest fan.

"Look, I'm not a financial expert or anything, but I'm pretty sure that a zeppelin is an excellent investment opportunity."

by kishi on May 27, 2008 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Goddammit.

Looked like O-Dawg had another HR there….

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 27, 2008 10:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice double

by Conor

Reach for the sky 'cus tomorrow may never come,

by unnamedDBacksfan on May 27, 2008 10:41 PM EDT reply actions  

1 out double!

CoJack!

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 27, 2008 10:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice two bagger for CJ!

by foulpole on May 27, 2008 10:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Double for CoJack

Be nice to get a run here.

"Look, I'm not a financial expert or anything, but I'm pretty sure that a zeppelin is an excellent investment opportunity."

by kishi on May 27, 2008 10:41 PM EDT reply actions  

+1

and then some

Reach for the sky 'cus tomorrow may never come,

by unnamedDBacksfan on May 27, 2008 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gracie, quit with the gushing about Lincecum. I am about to hurl.

by TwinnerA on May 27, 2008 10:42 PM EDT reply actions  

+3.1415

Reach for the sky 'cus tomorrow may never come,

by unnamedDBacksfan on May 27, 2008 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

wasted

double…

:::sigh:::::

Reach for the sky 'cus tomorrow may never come,

by unnamedDBacksfan on May 27, 2008 10:43 PM EDT reply actions  

What’s Upton’s O’fer up to now?

by TwinnerA on May 27, 2008 10:44 PM EDT reply actions  

0-22, IIRC?

15 Ks?

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 27, 2008 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

You’d think that he’d have put the bat on the ball once that dribbled through or carried to the outfield.

by TwinnerA on May 27, 2008 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ve seen him swing at plenty and miss.

by TwinnerA on May 27, 2008 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Coming into tonight

40 of his 57 K’s were swinging.

by Jim McLennan on May 27, 2008 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ugh.

"Look, I'm not a financial expert or anything, but I'm pretty sure that a zeppelin is an excellent investment opportunity."

by kishi on May 27, 2008 10:44 PM EDT reply actions  

lead off double

for the gnats.

Reach for the sky 'cus tomorrow may never come,

by unnamedDBacksfan on May 27, 2008 10:46 PM EDT reply actions  

The squeeze continues.

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 27, 2008 10:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Melvin looked pretty perturbed at the strike zone before.

I wouldn’t be surprised to see him come out to argue. This is bullshit.

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 27, 2008 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haren’s not getting the calls on the corner so he comes farther in and gets hit hard.

by TwinnerA on May 27, 2008 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

While Lincecum gets strikes called

4 inches outside.

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 27, 2008 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

over his head

and in to score for a 0-5 score, bad guys

Reach for the sky 'cus tomorrow may never come,

by unnamedDBacksfan on May 27, 2008 10:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice freakin D J-Up! Sheesh!

Either commit to the ball or lay off. We got lucky that Durham is not at 3rd.

by foulpole on May 27, 2008 10:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Like I always say,

when Grace admits that it’s a strike, It’s a strike.

And Grace has been calling a BUNCH of these balls strikes.

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 27, 2008 10:50 PM EDT reply actions  

7 hits

for them and

only 2 hits for us.

Bullpen is warming up for us, already

Reach for the sky 'cus tomorrow may never come,

by unnamedDBacksfan on May 27, 2008 10:51 PM EDT reply actions  

And....

the Lincecum Love-In continues in the booth.

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 27, 2008 10:57 PM EDT reply actions  

I can't, no.

But other ‘Pitters can, apparently.

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 27, 2008 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Very solid PA for the LHB Sally!

by foulpole on May 27, 2008 11:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice job by Danny Boy to advance the runner.

by foulpole on May 27, 2008 11:00 PM EDT reply actions  

decent crowd at the park

tonight?

Without Bonds, the number of giant fans has really fallen off, imo.

Reach for the sky 'cus tomorrow may never come,

by unnamedDBacksfan on May 27, 2008 11:02 PM EDT reply actions  

ARGH!!

This team is so frustrating… we’re losing 5-0 to a 12 year old!!

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 27, 2008 11:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Hey! Now it’s 5-1!

"Look, I'm not a financial expert or anything, but I'm pretty sure that a zeppelin is an excellent investment opportunity."

by kishi on May 27, 2008 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

We're still losing

to a 12 year old, though.

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 27, 2008 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was thinking the same thing!

He even rivals the lousy Rockies’s Francis, and I didn’t think that was possible.

I have been colonized.

by mrssoco on May 27, 2008 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I know.

I sorta group Lincecum and Francis together as the NL West’s “Junior High pitchers”.

Although Lincecum should probably be insulted at being grouped together with Francis for ANYTHING.

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 27, 2008 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

FINALLY

a run!

5-1

Reach for the sky 'cus tomorrow may never come,

by unnamedDBacksfan on May 27, 2008 11:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Make it 5-1.

Nice.

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 27, 2008 11:02 PM EDT reply actions  

LOL!

still frustrating game though/

Reach for the sky 'cus tomorrow may never come,

by unnamedDBacksfan on May 27, 2008 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sweet!

Solid hustle by Sally on the IF single! We broke the seal!

by foulpole on May 27, 2008 11:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Way to go, old man.

Old man Durham dives beyond the ball.

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 27, 2008 11:03 PM EDT reply actions  

You know

I just noticed that Bob Melvin pretty much looks the same if it is 1-5 or 10-0. He would SUCK to play Poker with.

I have been colonized.

by mrssoco on May 27, 2008 11:03 PM EDT reply actions  

BoMel

looked pretty pissed during the top of the 3rd when Haren was getting a strike zone the size of a postage stamp.

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 27, 2008 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe I just catch always catch him with his

“I wonder if my oven’s on?” face.

I have been colonized.

by mrssoco on May 27, 2008 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey! CY stole!

Too bad Droo struck out for the 3rd out.

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 27, 2008 11:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Agreed

We need to run more, especially when we’re not hitting well..we have several guys who can

"I'm sorry honey, I had to crash that Honda"

by acidtongue on May 27, 2008 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was fine early on

when we were hitting a HR every other inning, but since we’re back to v.2007 of our offense, we NEED to start running.

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 27, 2008 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Amen Brotha

"I'm sorry honey, I had to crash that Honda"

by acidtongue on May 27, 2008 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Atta boy Sally!

Grow your hair out, dive unnecessarily, do some flips and soon you too can have $30 million!

by dahlian on May 27, 2008 11:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Don't encourage him!!

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 27, 2008 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

up to 3 hits now

we need about a dozen more innings at this rate if we are to get back in the game

Reach for the sky 'cus tomorrow may never come,

by unnamedDBacksfan on May 27, 2008 11:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Not Our Night

Haren isn’t sharp, Lincecum is putting the offense to sleep

"I'm sorry honey, I had to crash that Honda"

by acidtongue on May 27, 2008 11:07 PM EDT reply actions  

offense has been sleep walking anyways

they don’t need any help with that!

Reach for the sky 'cus tomorrow may never come,

by unnamedDBacksfan on May 27, 2008 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

For having a 3.5 out there

We sure do seem to see a lot of doubles to right field with a man on first that result in runners on second and third.

Not that I’m complaining, but some might.

by dahlian on May 27, 2008 11:09 PM EDT reply actions  

3.5?

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 27, 2008 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

defensive rating

fanpost from a few weeks ago? I assume.

Reach for the sky 'cus tomorrow may never come,

by unnamedDBacksfan on May 27, 2008 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

OH that's right.

Upton with his lousy 3.5 defense.

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 27, 2008 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

It has to be said

There are plays where a 3.5 looks generous. On the other hand, there are plays where a 9.5 would seem harsh. The reality is somewhere in the middle I’d say.

by Jim McLennan on May 27, 2008 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

If he cut out the errors, he could be a ten. But you can’t ignore them.

6.5-7 sounds about right.

by dahlian on May 27, 2008 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thus far

LHB: 1-for-10 with one walk and 3 K’s
RHB: 2-for-6 with one walk and 1 K
[exclusing the pitcher]

by Jim McLennan on May 27, 2008 11:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Good, solid throw by CY,

right on the money at home plate to keep the runner from scoring.

Now Sally with an equally strong play to the plate.

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 27, 2008 11:10 PM EDT reply actions  

phew!

not deep enought to score anyone.

Reach for the sky 'cus tomorrow may never come,

by unnamedDBacksfan on May 27, 2008 11:10 PM EDT reply actions  

7 strike outs

for Haren

Reach for the sky 'cus tomorrow may never come,

by unnamedDBacksfan on May 27, 2008 11:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Whew! We got outta that jam on a 3-2 K. Sweet!!!

by foulpole on May 27, 2008 11:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Fat black dude confiscating the High Life:

probably the funniest beer commercials on TV right now.

In my opinion, of course.

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 27, 2008 11:14 PM EDT reply actions  

That's a bit like saying

“The most honest politician” or “the most sophisticated Go Daddy girl”.

by Jim McLennan on May 27, 2008 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

It must be awful

going through life with such cynicism. :-P

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 27, 2008 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I always say

Be cynical now, it saves time and disappointment later.

by Jim McLennan on May 27, 2008 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know

I’m not really a beer ad fan (I’d like to vent their organs with a kitchen knife…) but the High Life ads are pretty entertaining to me.

"Look, I'm not a financial expert or anything, but I'm pretty sure that a zeppelin is an excellent investment opportunity."

by kishi on May 27, 2008 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly.

I HATE those “The Great American Lager” Budweiser commercials, I hate any commercial that tries to call Miller Lite a good beer, I hate those stupid beer train Coors Light commercials—but the High Life ones are really funny.

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 27, 2008 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

The entire concept of beer adverts

Escape me. It’s surely something you choose based on taste, not because an advert tells you to. Though that said, I must confess to starting to drink Guinness based on the brilliant adverts they had involving Rutger Hauer. I think I’m off to YouTube to see if they’ve got any there.

by Jim McLennan on May 27, 2008 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rutger Hauer?

Did they involve replicants?

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 27, 2008 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here you go

Now, this is a beer advert. Rather more cerebral than “I’m going to lie to my girlfriend and pretend to be empathizing with my friend, when in reality we’re just going to get shit-faced and watch sports.”

by Jim McLennan on May 27, 2008 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Um,

I think a 2 year old could design a commercial more cerebral than that.

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 27, 2008 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Too bad Murphy's

is the much better stout, though.

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 27, 2008 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

See, I don’t really drink beer at all. Never found one that I really liked. So, there’s just entertainment to me.

"Look, I'm not a financial expert or anything, but I'm pretty sure that a zeppelin is an excellent investment opportunity."

by kishi on May 27, 2008 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's like any ad

most of the things you can’t pick by a commercial, but it can certainly influence your decision.

The boys in Sedona Red slugged it out with a pretty pesky poltergeist, then stayed on to dance the night away with some of the lovely ladies who witnessed the disturbance.

by soco on May 27, 2008 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I find that

I’m really only influenced by commercials in the negative.

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 27, 2008 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with Jim.

I find anti-elitism elitism just about as nauseating as actual elitism.

by dahlian on May 27, 2008 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I find YOU nauseating.

So there. You’re wrong.

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 27, 2008 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Penelope felt that our boys could use a little mojo to get back into this one.

by foulpole on May 27, 2008 11:16 PM EDT reply actions  

However...

It looks like Penelope has opted to leave the ballpark early, and beat the traffic… :-)

by Jim McLennan on May 27, 2008 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

WTF??

Makeup call by the ump on strike 1?

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 27, 2008 11:16 PM EDT reply actions  

O-Dawg with the lead off bb! Sweet!

by foulpole on May 27, 2008 11:16 PM EDT reply actions  

lead off walk

The meat of our order is up, let’s do something here!

Reach for the sky 'cus tomorrow may never come,

by unnamedDBacksfan on May 27, 2008 11:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Hit One For The Gapper

"I'm sorry honey, I had to crash that Honda"

by acidtongue on May 27, 2008 11:17 PM EDT reply actions  

How was that first pitch a strike??

This is really getting ridiculous.

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 27, 2008 11:17 PM EDT reply actions  

WASTED!

sheesh!

Come on Chad, show ‘em how it’s done!

Reach for the sky 'cus tomorrow may never come,

by unnamedDBacksfan on May 27, 2008 11:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Hit & Run Here?

"I'm sorry honey, I had to crash that Honda"

by acidtongue on May 27, 2008 11:19 PM EDT reply actions  

You need a hit

to be able to run.

We have a problem hitting.

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 27, 2008 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep

I think our only stolen-base attempt of the past week was when Drew struck out last inning.

by Jim McLennan on May 27, 2008 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Reynolds

stole a base during one of the past few games, IIRC

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 27, 2008 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heck

I’d settle for a dirty look right now.

Reach for the sky 'cus tomorrow may never come,

by unnamedDBacksfan on May 27, 2008 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Out number 2

Jupton at bat.

Reach for the sky 'cus tomorrow may never come,

by unnamedDBacksfan on May 27, 2008 11:20 PM EDT reply actions  

in hole

1-2

Reach for the sky 'cus tomorrow may never come,

by unnamedDBacksfan on May 27, 2008 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I feel like this umpire is just closing his eyes

and deciding randomly, before the pitch arrives, whether it’ll be a ball or a strike.

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 27, 2008 11:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Sheesh!

Too tough, or we’re too lame..maybe both

"I'm sorry honey, I had to crash that Honda"

by acidtongue on May 27, 2008 11:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Right now,

both.

This is certainly our first extended funk of the season.

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 27, 2008 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Solid PA for J-Up there. Sheesh! That was lame.

by foulpole on May 27, 2008 11:22 PM EDT reply actions  

wasted

again,

lead off man should have brought out a book. He didn’t move a muscle

Reach for the sky 'cus tomorrow may never come,

by unnamedDBacksfan on May 27, 2008 11:22 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm not so sure

that Orlando Hudson actually reads.

Not when there’s someone to talk to within a mile or so, at least.

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 27, 2008 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

good point!

lol!

Reach for the sky 'cus tomorrow may never come,

by unnamedDBacksfan on May 27, 2008 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

hmmm

was hoping the score was wrong—we’re really losing to the Giants 5-1

by dstorm on May 27, 2008 11:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah

Sadly.

I also just saw the latest Indiana Jones movie, so I’ve been pretty disappointed all around.

"Look, I'm not a financial expert or anything, but I'm pretty sure that a zeppelin is an excellent investment opportunity."

by kishi on May 27, 2008 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

you know, I thought overall

the Indy movie was pretty good —classic Indiana Jones -- but the ending just threw me for a loop—

by dstorm on May 27, 2008 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't give it away!

I still have to see it.

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 27, 2008 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yea, thought about that --

and avoided the details I wanted to post —won’t say anthing else -

but go see it -

by dstorm on May 27, 2008 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks.

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by DbacksSkins on May 27, 2008 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's respectable

when Lincecum’s starting—and when you’re playing baseball the way we’ve been playing lately.

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 27, 2008 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Alright, that's it.

Add Hunter Wendelstedt to my umpiring shit list.

Jeez…. I’m going to have 75% of the umpires in the league on my list by the time this season’s over.

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 27, 2008 11:27 PM EDT reply actions  

What's that?

This ump hasn’t a clue.

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 27, 2008 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I choose to believe that Sutton read and took my criticisms to heart

and that is the reason why he’s gone from “We need more Grace signs” to asking for more player-based signs.

Also, “We Worship Slaten” is the best sign ever, hands down. The city has renovated the street and there are cars as far as the eye can see – the game is over.

by dahlian on May 27, 2008 11:32 PM EDT reply actions  

I did, indeed,

find “We Worship Slaten” very amusing.

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 27, 2008 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow! Aaron Rowand at bat!

An overpaid, underperforming outfielder in the NL West!! Who’da thunkit??

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 27, 2008 11:36 PM EDT reply actions  

But

At least when he runs into a wall, he breaks his nose

"I'm sorry honey, I had to crash that Honda"

by acidtongue on May 27, 2008 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now you're projecting.

Rowand is a decent defensive centerfielder that’s currently hitting .329/.398/.543.

Given the market and the amount of money given to players like Jones, Hunter and Mathews Jr., his contract is very respectable. The only thing is that it’s not the sort of contract that a team like the Giants should be giving out.

For a team that can spend some money and is looking for a missing piece center fielder to make a run at a championship, Rowand with his current contract would be a good fit.

by dahlian on May 27, 2008 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's already 30

And so is not going to get significantly better, short of adopting the Bonds training program. NOT the kind of player you want to sign for five years. Three years, absolute tops.

by Jim McLennan on May 27, 2008 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Torii Hunter, 32

5 years/$90M

Gary Mathews Jr., 32 (the first year of the contract)
5 years/$50M

Andruw Jones, 31
2 years/$36.2M

Aaron Rowand, 30
5 years/$60M

Given the market, it wasn’t a bad contract. Calling Rowand’s contract bad is more a critique of free agent signings in general than this specific contract.

by dahlian on May 27, 2008 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nah, not projecting.

I was actually going to say that to call him underperforming might be going a bit too far.

But yeah, I totally agree—there’s no reason why a rebuilding team like the Giants, who should be developing young players for the future and using serviceable veterans to plug holes, should be going out and getting a solid grade B free agent like Rowand.

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 27, 2008 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s our Ed-it’s-Gon. A lead off bb, a wild pitch and a solid single surrounded by a bunch of crap. On the plus side, at least he hasn’t given up the long ball.

by foulpole on May 27, 2008 11:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Webb

Should be good for a couple of RBIs. I’d like Melvin to use him as a pinch-hitter, just for the look on Zito’s face.

by Jim McLennan on May 27, 2008 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, ok good.

Two years ago, who would have thought that anyone would be looking forward to facing Barry Zito?

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 27, 2008 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Solid lead off 2 bagger for Miggy!

Sweet!!!

by foulpole on May 27, 2008 11:44 PM EDT reply actions  

foulpole "sweet" count

at a half dozen on the night.

Over/under at 10.

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 27, 2008 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

LHB

Now up to 2-for-13 off Lincecum.

by Jim McLennan on May 27, 2008 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, Timmy has to be in the 100 pitch level at this point. That’s a plus.

by foulpole on May 27, 2008 11:46 PM EDT reply actions  

I find those Sonic commercials

very dumb, but charmingly amusing still.

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 27, 2008 11:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Timmay

is going to pitch a complete game against us, isn’t he??

Anyone remember when we used to be good?

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 27, 2008 11:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Nope.

Just 7.1 innings.

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 28, 2008 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

O-Dawg!!! He’s on fire!!!

by foulpole on May 27, 2008 11:59 PM EDT reply actions  

O-Dawg

with a 2 hit night.

I almost said “2 Dawg night” by accident.

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 27, 2008 11:59 PM EDT reply actions  

So Skins -

I’m going to Yankee Stadium later this month—any “must sees” from your trip earlier this year? First time I’ve ever been

by dstorm on May 28, 2008 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Well, I didn't actually get to a game at Yankee Stadium,

but I did get to see the stadium and hang out with some Yankees and Indians fans at a nearby bar after the game got out. Also bought a great print outside the stadium of this famous picture:

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 28, 2008 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

I've heard

Monument Park is a must see —I’m pretty excited -- can’t wait

Too bad you didn’t get into a game

by dstorm on May 28, 2008 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, it's pretty spectacular.

Definitely take some time to see it, if you can.

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 28, 2008 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

There's actually

a very good chance that I’ll be going back to visit NYC again this summer, so I’d like to make a game at Yankee Stadium if I do go.

I did see a game at Shea, if you remember, with Russ and Silverblood of Purple Row.

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 28, 2008 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Timmy! is done!

Sweet! Time to beat up on the Giants ‘pen!!!

by foulpole on May 28, 2008 12:01 AM EDT reply actions  

That's 7

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 28, 2008 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Trace with the ribby 2 bagger!

Sweet!!!

by foulpole on May 28, 2008 12:05 AM EDT reply actions  

That's 8.

What’d I put the over/under at? 10? I’m taking the over.

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 28, 2008 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

RBI double by Tracy!

6-2 now, runners on 2nd and 3rd with 1 out.

But…. Jupton’s up to bat. Damn.

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 28, 2008 12:05 AM EDT reply actions  

Final tally vs. Lincecum

LHB: 3-for-16
RHB: 3-for-10

Stacking the lineup with lefties worked well, didn’t it?

by Jim McLennan on May 28, 2008 12:05 AM EDT reply actions  

Another great PA for J-Up there. sheesh!

by foulpole on May 28, 2008 12:09 AM EDT reply actions  

Damn.

Jupton with a full count take that gets called strike 3.

Not that anyone can know what the pitch is going to be called tonight, though. Damn inconsistent ump.

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 28, 2008 12:10 AM EDT reply actions  

WP!

CoJack scores.

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 28, 2008 12:10 AM EDT reply actions  

Tracy to 3rd.

Great to have you back, Chad!!

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by DbacksSkins on May 28, 2008 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wild pitch! Sweet!!!

by foulpole on May 28, 2008 12:10 AM EDT reply actions  

That's 9.

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 28, 2008 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not likely

there’s no one better in the system to take his place.

by dahlian on May 28, 2008 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

At the very least, he needs a tune up.

by foulpole on May 28, 2008 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well played.

"Look, I'm not a financial expert or anything, but I'm pretty sure that a zeppelin is an excellent investment opportunity."

by kishi on May 28, 2008 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well played, salesman.

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 28, 2008 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

So you want

Alex Romero starting left fielder?

by dahlian on May 28, 2008 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

I have the feeling

that he’d prefer Eric Byrnes.

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 28, 2008 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Upton slump has baffled me,

it’s not like he’s expanding his zone and getting himself out. He’s just lost the ability to put his bat on the ball.

by dahlian on May 28, 2008 12:10 AM EDT reply actions  

Well,

he’s no Andruw Jones if that’s what you’re implying.

by dahlian on May 28, 2008 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

speaking of Andruw Jones --

I was in Los Angeles last week and saw the Dodgers play the Reds —was really disappointed I didn’t get the chance to boo him in person -- so, post haste,

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

ah, I feel much better

by dstorm on May 28, 2008 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

he needs to learn to play through it

with major league pitching in my opinion – this kid is too good to send back down

by dstorm on May 28, 2008 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Remember,

this is also a guy who hit .221 last year (I believe), and we stuck with him then. We’ll stick with him here. The patience with our young guys has worked out well so far.

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 28, 2008 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

He hasn't shown a track for much, the dude is only 20

The boys in Sedona Red slugged it out with a pretty pesky poltergeist, then stayed on to dance the night away with some of the lovely ladies who witnessed the disturbance.

by soco on May 28, 2008 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

He's also

on pace to have the most walks by a twenty year old since a guy called Ted Williams.

by dahlian on May 28, 2008 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good sign is

that he still draws walks, meaning his eye hasn’t slumped along with his swing.

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 28, 2008 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Unfortunately

Once the word gets around, pitchers are going to realize they can stop throwing out of the zone. Then the walks will dry up. He needs to start hitting soon, simple as that.

by Jim McLennan on May 28, 2008 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

I believe

that goes without saying.

by dahlian on May 28, 2008 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

ATTENTION: I do not like Randy Winn.

That is all.

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 28, 2008 12:17 AM EDT reply actions  

The microphone caught Rowand

dropping a big F-bomb right there.

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 28, 2008 12:20 AM EDT reply actions  

IAWTC

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 28, 2008 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Double D

now has a 2.70 ERA on the year??

Obviously, with a .246 opponents’ BA, it won’t stay that low, but still.

Our pitching still rocks. Even though they play in Chase Field.

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 28, 2008 12:23 AM EDT reply actions  

Would be pretty nice

to get Burke going.

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 28, 2008 12:25 AM EDT reply actions  

Not this AB though.

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 28, 2008 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Chris Young

is now going to hit a 3 run homer with nobody on base.

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 28, 2008 12:26 AM EDT reply actions  

No options left

This is his fifth year in the majors. We’d have to let him go entirely, and he offers a LOT more position flexibility than Nixon, especially with Ojeda currently sidelined. Burke is the only alternative we have in the middle-infield.

by Jim McLennan on May 28, 2008 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ballgame.

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 28, 2008 12:28 AM EDT reply actions  

Well, let's hope we can get

another inspired effort from DD tomorrow - not a great start

g’nite everyone

by dstorm on May 28, 2008 12:29 AM EDT reply actions  

Well, thanks to Walker,

we raised Timcecum’s ERA—final line of 7.1 IP and 3 ER. Still gets the W of course, though.

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 28, 2008 12:29 AM EDT reply actions  

About as I expected.

I mean, he wasn’t perfect for 4.1 innings or anything…. ;-)

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 28, 2008 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

One for the ages?

6 IP, 2 ER?

It was a pretty sharp debut, but I wouldn’t exactly call it “one for the ages”....

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 28, 2008 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good luck with that

If there’s one thing I know about baseball, there aren’t many things surer than a flame-throwing 20 year old.

You can take this kid to the bank,

by dahlian on May 28, 2008 1:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Could be an interesting bet

Who’ll have the better ERA+ at the end of the season.

by Jim McLennan on May 28, 2008 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's a good point,

seeing as how Scherzer’s home park is Chase and Kershaw’s is Chavez.

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 28, 2008 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think

Geovanny Soto, Kosuke Fukudome and Jair Jurrjens would have something to say about that. :-)

by Jim McLennan on May 28, 2008 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not eligible

Accumulated 80 innings since his 2005 debut, the limit is 50.

by Jim McLennan on May 28, 2008 1:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

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