Gameday Thread, #47: 5/22 vs. Marlins
by Jim McLennan on May 22, 2008 6:34 PM EDT
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We turn to Dan Haren to act as the stopper this afternoon: we've only had one three-game losing streak this season [the sweep in Chicago], and after the offensive offense we've seen the past couple of days, we really need a W under our belts before we head to Atlanta. Haren has given us four quality starts in a row, but as we've seen already this series - twice - that doesn't guarantee anything.
Miller has been significantly better over his past three starts, pitching 18 innings and allowing only four earned runs, but he's another pitcher against whom we don't have much collective experience. No-one on the roster has ever gone to the plate against him, and it may be purely anecdotal evidence, but this does seem like the kind of pitcher who has given us problems in the past [Johnny Cueto would be Exhibit A in that case].
The matter has been exacerbated ["No, what does exacerbate mean?" "It means um, to make things worse."] by Jackson and Upton joining Reynolds and Byrnes in the suck parade of late. With the help of good pitching, we were able to carry two struggling players, when the rest of the team was hitting well, but there's certain point where that's no longer possible. It's like watching an upside-down pyramid of circus acrobats riding a motorcycle. Eventually, if people keep climbing on board, it's going to end in disaster.
And with that spectacular metaphor, it's time for the show to start. Let's hope we're the ringmasters and not the clowns today.
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it's an awefully accurate
metaphor though..
You can stand under my umbrella
by unnamedDBacksfan on May 22, 2008 7:06 PM EDT reply actions
Good Luck D-Back
I would love to join you guys for the in-game comments but I have become quite addicted to Tivoing the game and starting 2 hours in so I can fast forward through commercials and the occasionally, too-hokey even for them, Grace and Sutton exchanges. Please note, however, that I will review all comments following the game and grade them for accuracy and wit. Good luck D-Backs!
another guy with a 6+ ERA
here we go again….
- The Question is: What is manah-manah?
- The Question is: Who cares!?
another potential
cy young winner then by the time we get done tonight!
NOT!
Come on DBACKS!
You can stand under my umbrella
by unnamedDBacksfan on May 22, 2008 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions
And that goes for the rest of the lineup
shape up guys
We will meet in Red 3 at the hour of scampering.
strikezone very wide against us... again
- The Question is: What is manah-manah?
- The Question is: Who cares!?
Miller Scouting Report
According to Baseball America, he was the top talent in the 2006 draft. Fastball tops out at 98, slider is in the mid-80s and is a sure out pitch, not a great changeup and uses a two-seam fastball instead.
It's just one run, we'll easily get that back
oh wait…
We will meet in Red 3 at the hour of scampering.
First inning, you have to get the out…tie game later, maybe not, but it was too risky with the speed of Han-Ram.
S'ok
I was actually being sarcastic, reminding long-time readers of a previous occasion where someone was very critical of Jackson for not throwing home with a runner on third… You had to be there though. :-)
by Jim McLennan on May 22, 2008 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions
There is a HUGE difference between a corner IF and a middle IF and the game situation. Especially when the middle IFs were playing deep and giving up the run on that play. If you can’t see that then I don’t know what else to say?
As I recall
I made much the same arguments on the previous occasion, and your response was that you “always” come home. Of course, the rules are now apparently different when it’s one of your guys. But if you can’t see that then I don’t know what else to say? :-)
by Jim McLennan on May 22, 2008 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Read in sports illustrated today, that only the Brewers have a higher percent of right handed hitters per AB.
Brandon Webb, do I need to say more?
On a side note.
Does anyone have any idea what the plans are for Lyon at the end of the year?
Brandon Webb, do I need to say more?
And
I don’t think you need a crystal ball to see that. Pena will be closing in 2009.
by Jim McLennan on May 22, 2008 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions
That's an area
Where he has really improved this year.
by Jim McLennan on May 22, 2008 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I dont think i can keep watching this
Its bad for my mental health :(
So...time for another drink then?
I cannot agree more
i am actually hoping my 4 week old son wakes up crying so I can have something to pull me away from this.
How did the Padres offense get in Arizona uniforms??
I'm thinking of reading a horror story between innings
for light relief
We will meet in Red 3 at the hour of scampering.
May I suggest
The classic of Hello Kitty horror, “I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream”?
by Jim McLennan on May 22, 2008 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions
or....
a recap of any Dback road win would be scarier than any Saw movie or maybe even [rec]
btw, if you like horror and have not yet seen [rec] I would recommend it. very obvious formula movie (zombies and a shaky cam), but wow is it executed well. Note: it is in Spanish with subtitles
I was thinking of "The Fly"
reminds me of the team somehow
We will meet in Red 3 at the hour of scampering.
Perhaps most appropriately
Diary of the Dead, would appear to describe our offense this week…
by Jim McLennan on May 22, 2008 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Dead Men Walking
or in our case, Pretending to play baseball?
You can stand under my umbrella
by unnamedDBacksfan on May 23, 2008 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions
this is insane
no one on and drew jacks the pitch down the middle out of the park.
2 on with 1 out…...K
This team is not very good right now. The offense has been atrocious. That graphic of a .054 RISP over the past 5 games is really unbelievable. Oh, and it went down with the 0 for 2 tonight
I'm frustrated too
But I’m watching and waiting for them to turn things around. Not that they’re not making me crazy, but anything could happen.
so....
is 1 run insurmountable for this offense right now? I have to wonder. I hope they can get a run or two b4 Haren gives up another run (if he does) because I think a 2-0 or 3-0 deficit might be mentally impossible to overcome
jackson is in a huge slump
I watch almost every game and know that Jackson has been cold, but since Reynolds and Byrnes have been SO BAD I think most have let Jackson off the hook.
His average is in the .290 range now….wasn’t he at .340 just a few weeks ago? Brutal.
Most have let Jackson off the hook
because he actually is just going through an slump. Despite his 1-19 he’s still has been one of the top three offensive performers on the team.
If not for the giant vortexes of suck at third base and left field, you would hardly notice an off week from CJ.
Just venting foulpole
just venting
You can stand under my umbrella
by unnamedDBacksfan on May 22, 2008 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions
No
He only struck out once yesterday. His 4 K game was Tuesday.
by Jim McLennan on May 22, 2008 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions
His job
is to make Robbie Hammock look better by comparison.
To be serious, I don’t mind him on the roster. There is something to be said for having a guy that can competently play all four infield positions and left field. But the fact that he has more at bats than Salazar this year is just criminal.
And Augie
Despite Burke having a batting average pretty close to half Ojeda’s [.180 to .353 at time of writing]
by Jim McLennan on May 22, 2008 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Cheaper than
a certain old guy, I’ll take him.
You can stand under my umbrella
by unnamedDBacksfan on May 22, 2008 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah....
So besides the fact that he’s younger than Eric Byrnes, what differentiates the two? D’Antona’s not injured…
Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.
by DbacksSkins on May 22, 2008 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I just
wish gas prices would start falling as fast as our teams batting average
You can stand under my umbrella
by unnamedDBacksfan on May 22, 2008 8:14 PM EDT reply actions
Holy Cow!!!
I’ll save my complaining then!!
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by unnamedDBacksfan on May 22, 2008 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Sad
that it is being wasted by this team then.
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by unnamedDBacksfan on May 22, 2008 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Sounds familiar...
Looking so far like a tough loss, but he has certainly kept us in this one.
by Jim McLennan on May 22, 2008 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Anyone know
If he can play left-field? And third-base? Simultaneously? :-)
by Jim McLennan on May 22, 2008 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Like that scene in Superman where he played football
with himself at all the positions
We will meet in Red 3 at the hour of scampering.
*bangs head against the wall*
I can’t think of anything more frustrating, unless you’re playing a computer game and get stuck in a game glitch, you know where you jump and jump but are just stuck behind some object nerdism
So...time for another drink then?
even drew complaining about the strikezone...
- The Question is: What is manah-manah?
- The Question is: Who cares!?
enough with the bitching about the strike zone
Game 1 was really awful, but you just have to get through it. The past 2 games have been pretty consistent and it is time for this team to grow up.
Drew – You have missed two pitches RIGHT DOWN THE MIDDLE in two different at bats so stop bitching about the pitches on the corner.
+1
you’re not getting off that easy.
You can stand under my umbrella
by unnamedDBacksfan on May 22, 2008 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions
We still have Ortiz under contract right?
Can we use him as a pinch HBP? they can hardly miss him?
So...time for another drink then?
I think I'm going to go waterboard my self.
Compared to watching this team hit right, it’s not even torture.
by C. Wesley Baier on May 22, 2008 8:26 PM EDT reply actions
Whew! Haren got out of that weak assed defensive jam.
Sweet!!!
CJ and J-UP looked pretty bush on that “triple.”
WHAT?!?
Are you effing kidding me?!? How “bush” could it be if no outfielder this side of Rick Ankiel would have been able to make that play at third.
Sure, Upton bobbled the ball, but he recovered quickly and fired one of the greatest throws of the season to hit the third baseman at the chest.
Yes, but
He’s not Eric Byrnes. So he sucks.
If you can’t see that then I don’t know what else to say?
by Jim McLennan on May 22, 2008 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions
hate when they say "pitchers duel" ...
- The Question is: What is manah-manah?
- The Question is: Who cares!?
Good recovery
Keeps the runner at third.
Y’know, if I were the Fish, I’d be concerned how they’ve only scored seven runs in the past 24 innings…
Perspective is everything…
I wouldn't
Against Owings, Webb and Haren?
I’d settle for 10 after 27
So...time for another drink then?
something
for us to be proud of. helping bring the ERA of anyone over 6 back down to respectable levels.
You can stand under my umbrella
by unnamedDBacksfan on May 22, 2008 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Muu
Would appear to be bringing them out. Generally, I would tend to avoid them, but in the current circumstances…
by Jim McLennan on May 22, 2008 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions
lol
see below.
You can stand under my umbrella
by unnamedDBacksfan on May 22, 2008 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I wish
I could remember some of the really good swear words I learned in Chile.
The dutch have some interesting swear words.
You can stand under my umbrella
by unnamedDBacksfan on May 22, 2008 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Too bad
this is more interesting of a topic than DBacks baseball right now…....
:(
You can stand under my umbrella
by unnamedDBacksfan on May 22, 2008 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm going to be forced to take up
crotcheting again.
We will meet in Red 3 at the hour of scampering.
I might actually have to do some
work tonight.
You can stand under my umbrella
by unnamedDBacksfan on May 22, 2008 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Im playing the Marlins in OOTP Baseball
And they even beat me on that :( Took the series though so…moral victory
So...time for another drink then?
I go for frell and frack
which, nerdily ,I use in real life.
We will meet in Red 3 at the hour of scampering.
I say Bumhats alot
Weebl and Bob related
Also “For Fricks Sake” comes out alot in the office :D
So...time for another drink then?
Is
using ‘bloody’ still a real bad taboo to mess with? I had heard back in the day in was considered very vulgar.
You can stand under my umbrella
by unnamedDBacksfan on May 22, 2008 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions
portuguese have good ones to...
porra, caralho, merda, buceta..
but I wont translate it =X
- The Question is: What is manah-manah?
- The Question is: Who cares!?
Have I missed anything yet??
Let’s see…great pitching from Haren, no offense – - nope, another splendid evening of AZ baseball! Glad to see I’m not missing anything while at work.
F**k.
D'oh!
pretty much describes the at bats, ONCE AGAIN!
You can stand under my umbrella
by unnamedDBacksfan on May 22, 2008 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm freezin!
It’s 63º out with showers in the area. MOnday it was 110º.
Global warming my cold ass!
way off topic, sorry.
You can stand under my umbrella
by unnamedDBacksfan on May 22, 2008 8:51 PM EDT reply actions
Hope
springs eternal!
You can stand under my umbrella
by unnamedDBacksfan on May 22, 2008 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess this says something
about what Melvin thinks of Byrnes and Hammock as pinch hitters right now.
It’s a one run game, Haren is pitching very well and has a 82 pitch count (and could be looking at a complete game), we still have 6 outs left and the top of our order due up in our 8th. With two out and a man on 1st I’m very satisfied with keeping him in there.
The thing is,
that as well as Haren is pitching, the odds of him putting up another good inning the third time through an order isn’t better than the chances of any other good reliever doing the same.
And people underestimate the additional value gained by a pinch hitter.
wow
that was a great shot after Haren popped out…..stupid Byrnes sitting there looking off in the distance while BoMel looks at his card to assure himself that Haren hitting for himself was the right decision no matter the outcome
Orlando Hudson's error, err..
ruled not an error!
Let’s see if that shows up in your fancy, schmancy Zone Ratings…. oh wait…
MLB should really take over the scoring.
Cycle scorers between stadia like they do with umpires. This hometown scoring has gotten ridiculous. (See: Rockies, 2007)
Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.
This is winding me up even more
As i have to sit and listen to this f’ing Marlins commentators crowing
So...time for another drink then?
As i have to sit and listen to this f’ing Marlins commentators crowing
They are annoying, aren’t they?
not as
annoying as watching this team struggle right now, but then again, i am not listening to them either.
You can stand under my umbrella
by unnamedDBacksfan on May 22, 2008 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions
double
ballgame
see you later guys
o/
- The Question is: What is manah-manah?
- The Question is: Who cares!?
Im desperate to be positive
But Haren aside I am just lost for words. I know it’s a young team but its three nights in a row and you just feel like crud watching this because you almost share the pain and frustration of those guys down there.
Lets just hope the rest of the season goes so well we forget this series ever happened ok? ;)
So...time for another drink then?
awesome ball game
by Miller.
ERA is under 5.40 now after starting the day at 6.18.
Too bad our pitchers are contenders while everyone else on the team are pretenders.
You can stand under my umbrella
by unnamedDBacksfan on May 22, 2008 9:12 PM EDT reply actions
Nice HBP!
when it rains, but it pours.
You can stand under my umbrella
by unnamedDBacksfan on May 22, 2008 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions
like 40 days and
40 nights worth
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by unnamedDBacksfan on May 22, 2008 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Bob Melvin better yell "Geronimo!!"...
...cuz the Dbacks are in freefall.
Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.
O-Dawg with a little bloop between Gonzo and Ramirez in no man's land.
2 out hit. Not that it matters.
Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.
4 pitch walk for CoJack.
Jupton at bat.
Big fly here brings us right back in this game.
Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.
bravo!
sheesh
You can stand under my umbrella
by unnamedDBacksfan on May 22, 2008 9:33 PM EDT reply actions
Just send up
Byrnes, Reynolds and Owings
The next inning, just to give me something to talk about…
So...time for another drink then?
Heh.....
Pinch hit for everyone just for the helluvit? Can’t be any worse than our regulars up there.
Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.
Or
send in the clowns?
I could use a good laugh right now.
You can stand under my umbrella
by unnamedDBacksfan on May 22, 2008 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions
That awful "Ed-its-gon"
just used a double play to get a 1-2-3 inning.
Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.
Burke
with a one out double.
You KNOW your team is slumping when Chris Burke is the lone bright spot in the lineup.
Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.
Ballgame
Really Really Really Sucked Tonight
Im off to bed, thank god its a bank holiday weekend
So...time for another drink then?
FUCK.
Strike 3.
First shutout of the year. Haven’t won a goddamned road game since April 27th at San Diego.
Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.
When is Tracy coming back?
He’s been on the 15 day DL for almost 2 months.
Brandon Webb, do I need to say more?
The good news
is it could be worse: the Braves completed a four-game sweep of the Mets.
The bad news is that we play the Braves tomorrow.
Rox play the Mets this weekend, starting Fri.
sad thing is I was hoping to see Johan Santana pitch in this series but I see he’s already pitched, oh well, guess I’ll see him pitch probably in June when the Mets come back to Coors Field.
"Baseball is what gets inside you. It's what lights you up, you can't deny that. It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great." -Jimmy Dougan (Tom Hanks) "A League of Their Own"
by Rocktober 2007 on May 22, 2008 10:48 PM EDT reply actions
Oh darn. Poor baby.
You don’t have to face Johan Santana. :-P
Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.
by DbacksSkins on May 22, 2008 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions
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