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Diamondbacks 2, Marlins 3 - Or, Rotten 2, Fish 3

Record: 28-17. Pace: 101-61. Change on last season: +4

This is one of those games that we certainly should have wrapped up and taken back to the hotel with us. Though certainly not helped by the inconsistent strike-zone being called by home-plate umpire Dale Scott [not least, a 3-1 pitch with the bases loaded to Byrnes, that was called a strike], this is not a game the Marlins won, so much as one that we lost. We seemed to do a great job of creating chances to blow the game open...then do an utterly impeccable job of frittering them away. Lead-off double? Get caught trying to steal. Man on third, nobody out? He'll be tagged out making a dubious attempt to score on a ground-ball to third. Bases loaded, one out? How about back to back K's. No opportunity left unscorned tonight.

This was an immensely frustrating performance, there's no denying that. We had more trouble with Hendrickson than we should have, especially first time through the order where we were 0-for-9 with four K's. The Marlins took the lead in the third on a broken-bat bloop that turned into an RBI double, because it came with two outs. However, the Diamondbacks fought back, getting a double from Young to start the fourth inning, only to see him nailed trying to take third, thereby breaking #6 of baseball's unwritten rules. [It'd be interesting to see how many of these we've violated already this season.] This was particularly aggravating as he'd have scored two batters later on O-Dawg's double - instead, all we managed there was Jackson's sacrifice fly.

Still, we'd tied the game. That lasted precisely two outs, as Dan Uggla - a man with one stolen-base this season, and two in all of 2007 - showed how it should be done, swiping second, then coming home on an RBI single by another former D-back, one Luis Gonzalez. No matter, since back to back singles from Byrnes and Reynolds put runners on the corners for Arizona with no-one out in the fifth. This time, we surely have to score. Not so fast: Byrnes got caught off third in a rundown, and then, with some more help from Dale "I bleed Marlin Blue" Scott, Owings and Young both struck out. All told, we had 13 K's on the night, the second-highest tally of the year: Upton had four and Owings three, with Snyder and Jackson the only starters to avoid them.

The Marlins extended their lead to 3-1 on a homer by Uggla - his 14th of the season. I think letting Uggla go has to be right up there with trading Quentin away for a bag of balls, as Josh Byrnes' biggest mistake. Albeit seen with 20/20 hindsight, of course. But if we had him at second-base, we would certainly not have to worry about what to do when Hudson hits free-agency. Snyder brought us a little bit closer with his fourth of the season, a solo shot in the seventh. And we then had another chance in the eighth, loading the bases on three walks, with only one out in the eighth. More strikeouts ensued, and our last, best hope vanished, though Byrnes can certainly be excused for saying, "There were some calls that were obviously questionable. No kidding: I think we should go out there tomorrow and try to plunk the umpire...

Somewhat lost in the mess was a very solid outing by Owings, who pitched seven innings, allowing three runs on seven hits and two walks, while striking out a career-high ten. He also threw 113 pitches, which is the second-most he's ever thrown: it helped give our bullpen another day of rest, with only Tony Peña called upon. He pitched a scoreless eighth. That was Micah's seventh quality start in his nine outings. Here's how all our starters rank up:

Haren: 8 out of 9
Webb: 8 out of 9
Owings: 7 out of 9
Johnson: 2 out of 7
Gonzalez: 1 out of 6
Scherzer/Davis: 2 out of 5

Can't knock #1-3, because they have given us 23 quality starts in 27 attempts. The back-end of the rotation, who've gone 5-for-18...not so much. Still, all told, the 28 quality starts is the most in the National League, with the Padres next, on 25. Our ERA is still best in the league too. No, of late, it's been the offense which has been struggling: as well as Byrnes (batting .133 this month), May has not been kind to Reynolds (.214) and Jackson (.231). Snyder (.366) and Hudson (.444) have been doing much of the heavy lifting recently.

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Master of his domain: Orlando Hudson, +21.8%
God-emperor of suck: Justin Upton, -28.1%
Dishonorable mention: Chris Young, -26.0%

An understandably phlegmatic Gameday Thread, which began with such hope and optimism, only to peter out into rancor and self-recrimination. About the only light I can bring, is that we really didn't deserve to win this one, and as I just pointed out to acidtongue in his diary, if we can play that badly, and only lose by one run, we aren't in bad shape. Present were DbacksSkins, manphibian, Bcawz, njjohn, Zephon, Augie's Army, UofAZGrad, 4 Corners Fan, Wimb, hotclaws, TwinnerA, kishi, SongBird, foulpole, TuLoRocks2008, IndyDBack, Phoenix Stan, dahlian, Turambar, srdmad and Azreous.

Tomorrow is another day. And, it's not just any other day, it's one where we have Brandon Webb on the mound, looking to win his twelfth consecutive start. Got to feel good about that.

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Frustrating game

17 runners left on base….baserunning errors a-plenty….home plate umpire who had NO F**NG CLUE what a strike zone was (Dale Scott, YOU SUCK!!)....oh, what an interesting game it was!! Micah deserved so much better than this – he finally lost his cool as Byrnes went down flailing in the 8th (although Byrnes should have been on first thanks to another crappy strike call); FSN AZ was kind enough to show us his anger in the dugout.

by IndyDBack on May 21, 2008 8:40 AM EDT   0 recs

Micah didn't exactly

Help himself with 3K’s but then again as much as he is vaunted as a bat he isn’t EXPECTED to produce at the plate.

All in all we just have to take it on the chin I guess and hope that Webby rebounds. Should be a great night tonight with the Champions League Final also on, can’t wait for that :)

So...time for another drink then?

by Wimb on May 21, 2008 9:43 AM EDT   0 recs

When the starting pitcher gets the win, to me that’s a quality start!

by TwinnerA on May 21, 2008 12:45 PM EDT   0 recs

So...

When Harvey Haddix pitched 12 perfect innings, but lost the game in the 13th (1-0) on an unearned run, that wasn’t a quality start?

;-)

by Craig from Az on May 21, 2008 2:25 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Of course it is.

by TwinnerA on May 21, 2008 5:00 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I sympathize with that sentiment

But sometimes “wins” alone just don’t tell the tale. In 2006 Randy Johnson went 17-11 for the Yanks but had a 5.00 ERA. That’s what you can do when you pitch for a team that leads the majors in runs scored with 5.7 RPG. Now suppose a team just looked at the 17 wins and offered to pick up almost all of his remaining $16 million salary for 2007 with an extension for 2008. Of course, I am being a bit sarcastic. Byrnes is not an idiot and RJ was brought back to put butts in the seats, capture 300 wins and solidify his probable committment to enter the HOF as a D-Back.

But it does highlight how useless this stat is in measuring the quality of a pitcher. Give me 2004 Randy who had a worse record (16-14) but was far more dominant with a 2.60 ERA and a 13-2 record in games the D-Backs scored three or more runs (unfortunately, the D-Back scored 2 or fewer runs in 17 of his 35 starts that year). In the mirror opposite to 2007, RJ was on the team last in runs scored with 3.7 RPG but he was a far far better pitcher.

by UofAZGrad on May 21, 2008 2:26 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

It's a TEAM loss...

The quality of the pitcher’s performance and the team winning or losing are often unfortunately unrelated, which is why in my mind the pitcher W/L “stat” is the most meaningless of all pitchers stats.

Said Brandon Webb on May 8 after his record improved to 8-0:
“That (42 consecutive scoreless innings last season), with three shutouts in a row, is to me, more impressive. . . . I could be 8-0 and have a 5.00 ERA if the other guys are scoring six runs a game. Wins are something pitchers really can’t control, and I’ve just been fortunate enough to be on the good side of that.”

On a side note, it’s important for Randy to get to 300 wins only because so many writers place such importance on that magical number, but in reality Randy having 300 “wins” rather than 297 or 298 does not change one bit what Randy contributed during his HOF career.

by TAP on May 21, 2008 3:15 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

The reason 300 is so important is purely because of the media. Getting to 300 would grant Randy the obligatory cascade of articles from ESPN et al that would force reporters to sit down and reflect on truly how great Randy was… and consequently cement him as such in the minds of the average sports fan.

"There are only two seasons: winter and baseball"
-- Bill Veeck

by njjohn on May 21, 2008 4:17 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

W/L is overrated by 300 is not

Wins and losses is a deceptive state when looking at individual games and even seasons but 300 wins is not meaningless. Only the truly great pitchers in the live ball era have achieved it. It requires much more than a talented or dominating pitcher, it requires consistent high quality performances over two decades in the game. Many of the most impressive pitching feats can result from flukes (no-hitters, perfect games, 20 win seasons) but no one gets to 300 wins in modern baseball without being really really good. I don’t begrudge the fact that this particular distinction matters to Randy Johnson even though he is already guaranteed the HOF.

I think it’s even more impressive that Johnson will (hopefully) reach this mark even though he got a much later jump than most of his contemporaries. Because of control issues, Johnson did not win more than 10 games until he was 27 years old. In contrast, Glavine, Maddux and Clemens were posting double digit wins at ages 22 to 24.

by UofAZGrad on May 21, 2008 6:10 PM EDT   0 recs

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