Quentin is Killing It

Carlos is heating up as he is second in the AL in slugging percentage & runs and 5th in RBI's. He might be the White Sox All-Star this year. The one thing the article doesn't mention is how he is walking more. After 80 AB's Carlos has walked 14 times while only striking out 13 times.

In Arizona, last year Quentin only walked 18 times all season while striking out much more often. While dumping Valverde at his peak value was a great move, unloading Carlos' at his lowest possible point was a bad one.

I'd rather have Carlos in LF for the Snakes compared to Eric. This move drove me nuts at the time and will continue to drive me nuts for the next three years.

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Yeah, hated to see him go too. But I think the change in scenery helped him turn it around.

by Bcawz on Apr 30, 2008 1:36 PM EDT 0 recs

That may be,

but it’s not as if fans were constantly dogging him or the veterans and management were hostile to him.

I think he just needed a chance to get healthy and play every day.

by dahlian on Apr 30, 2008 5:06 PM EDT up 0 recs

Upton

made Q redundant, not Byrnes. Not that Byrnes’ extension helped, mind you.

Maybe the ChiSox will finally forgive us for taking Chris Young off their hands instead of Brian Anderson?

All in all, I’m really glad to see Quentin do so well with the Sox. I felt bad for him last year.

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on Apr 30, 2008 1:51 PM EDT 0 recs

No, it was the Byrnes contract,

we could have let him walk at the end of the year and given the job to Q.

Upton was always a given in the outfield. He came up a year or two sooner than expected, but management knew he would be here at some point.

It was Byrnes making the step from platoon player to average outfielder and Moorad falling in love with him as a marketing tool that left Quentin with no place to play.

by dahlian on Apr 30, 2008 5:03 PM EDT up 0 recs

You hit the nail on the Head

It came down to Byrnes or Q and the decision was made by the marketing department not the baseball people.

by Augie's Army on May 1, 2008 11:48 AM EDT up 0 recs

I don't think he'd be the same player here

a change of venue was a definite need for him. Plus the AL is more of a fastball league. The NL is all about location and finesse. If it moves Q isn’t going to hit it.

Baseball season, when everything becomes right in the world.

by seton hall snake pit on Apr 30, 2008 2:05 PM EDT 0 recs

I can only imagine

the kinda numbers Mark Reynolds would be putting up….

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on Apr 30, 2008 2:09 PM EDT up 0 recs

no kidding

how many AB’s does he have? All fastballs that home run record would be nearly toast by now.

Baseball season, when everything becomes right in the world.

by seton hall snake pit on Apr 30, 2008 2:55 PM EDT up 0 recs

So nobody in the AL throws a breaking ball?

I disagree the NL is more of the hard throwing fastball league, the NL has 14 of the 20 leaders in K’s. The league that doesn’t have the DH will always see more fastballs.

We gambled and thought Byrnes was going to be better in 2008, and we lost. Not the end of the world, as we do have the best record in baseball.

by Augie's Army on May 1, 2008 11:46 AM EDT up 0 recs

Well

we also didn’t know whether Q would recover from his shoulder injury, and we still don’t know whether it’ll be a recurring problem.

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 1, 2008 1:16 PM EDT up 0 recs

We could have

signed a Geoff Jenkins type as a back up plan/platoon left hander.

Q’s place on the team doesn’t change the fact that giving a three year $30 million to a 32 year old average left-fielder is a poor allocation of resources. Making that decision when you already have reasonable options in house (making 4% as much money!), is inexcusable.

by dahlian on May 1, 2008 9:28 PM EDT up 0 recs

Q’s health was a pretty big question mark when we signed Byrnes (and when he was traded). Plus, we had young players at 1b, ss, 3b, CF and RF that we not exactly lighting the world on fire with the O or their D. Byrnes’ production was somewhat predictable.

Q was basically part of the Haren deal. Haren is looking pretty good to me so far.

by foulpole on Apr 30, 2008 11:21 PM EDT 0 recs

but

would we have haren if not for that trade? i don’t remember exactly how it all went down, but didn’t we include the guy we got from chicago for quentin in the trade with oakland?

i have been missing q (i had to be one of his biggest fans last year and am glad he’s doing well- i’ll probably always root for him), but thinking of it as a q for haren trade makes it easier to swallow.

by leemellon on May 1, 2008 11:59 AM EDT 0 recs

We did turn Chris Carter

into Danny Haren but I have a hard time believing that the White Sox wouldn’t give up a 21 year old in A ball for something else in our system.

by Augie's Army on May 1, 2008 12:06 PM EDT up 0 recs

Kenny Williams quote.

“we wanted to…..acquire Carlos Quentin—and not a guy like him, but actually Carlos Quentin.”

Pitching and defense.

by ballyb on May 1, 2008 12:45 PM EDT up 0 recs

Well, there's your answer, AA.

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 1, 2008 2:01 PM EDT up 0 recs

Welcome to the 'Pit,

by the way.

Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.

by DbacksSkins on May 1, 2008 2:01 PM EDT up 0 recs

I'd say the opposite,

I have no doubt that we would have been able to find another player in our system that Beane would have taken than Chris Carter. Carter was probably the fifth or sixth most important person dealt in that trade – a toss-up between him and Aaron Cunningham.

by dahlian on May 1, 2008 9:19 PM EDT up 0 recs

Good to be Here and loving the site

But I still think there was a way to get the Haren trade done holding onto Q. I mean the A’s don’t do the deal unless they get one specific single A 1B, Q became expendable when we resigned Byrnes.

We let Byrnes walk and Q is in LF for us.

by Augie's Army on May 1, 2008 3:45 PM EDT 0 recs