Diamondbacks 4, Astros 6 - Mad Max replaces Bad Mex
Record: 19-8. Pace: 114-48. Change on last season: +3
Tonight may be one of those games we look back on in twenty years and say, "Yes, I remember seeing Scherzer make his major-league debut." For our uber-prospect retired all 13 hitters faced, fanning seven, and sending everybody scurrying to the record books. We'll have to wait, however: Baseball-Reference.com's stats in this area only go back as far as 1956, and there has been no-one since who started their career with one outing of four perfect innings. We can speculate what might have happened if Scherzer had started the game: probably only his pitch-count would have stopped this from being truly monumental. Perhaps we might even have seen something like Juan Marichal's first appearance in 1960, a complete game one-hitter with one walk and twelve K's, that's possibly the finest debut of all-time.
Instead, we'll just look forward to seeing how far Scherzer can go. Contrary to what Steve Gilbert says, Max is not the only relief pitcher to have retired the first 13 batters seen in a career: Jeremy Fikac also did that for the Padres in 2001. Who? Exactly... Fikac was plagued by injuries, and his career was over in 2004 - let's hope better things await Scherzer down the road But in case you're wondering, the best recent no-hit streak at the very start of a career belongs to the Giants' Jonathan Sanchez with 7.1 innings during 2006. The longest recent scoreless opening streak is Matt Smith's 18.2 innings, in 22 appearances, which took place the same year. Smith was even traded from the Yankees to the Phillies in the middle of the run; again, a fate we trust will not befall our rookie.
Lost in all the excitement is...well, the loss. Scherzer, Slaten and Medders combined to retire eighteen consecutive Astros before Erstad singled with two outs in the ninth. But the damage had already been done, Houston having scored six runs at that point. Edgar Gonzalez was flat, listless and got cuffed around; the batters he faced went 8-for-15 with two walks. It took him 72 pitches to get through 2.2 innings - Scherzer's 4.1 required only 47. While Edgar was the victim of some poor defense [the four-run fourth should have ended with a double-play that never got turned, and he wasn't helped by Salazar misplaying a ball down the line the same inning], I wouldn't be surprised if his and Scherzer's roles are flip-flopped next Monday.
I was a bit surprised to learn we only left five men on base: somehow, it seemed a lot more than that. However, the bases were cleared through the front four, thanks to a double-play by Salazar, and Jackson's two run homer. Drew left two on in the fifth, but a CoJack twin-killing ended the sixth. Our best chance to come back was likely the seventh, where we had the tying run aboard, thanks to an RBI single from Montero, with only one out. However, Young flied out and Drew popped out, to leave us stranded. In the ninth, we got to face old friend Jose Valverde, now the Astros closer. Much like Lyon, a rocky start has since been corrected, and Papa Grande was firing on all cylinders, his fastball touching 99 mph, and he struck out Upton, Burke and Byrnes round Salazar's double.

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Master of his domain: Max Scherzer, +11.5%
Honorary mention: Miguel Montero, +11.1%
God-emperor of suck: Edgar Gonzalez, -44.1%
Dishonorable mention: Stephen Drew, -14.9%
Plenty of activity and once again, good to see some friendly visitors from Houston, in the shape of TexSkins and lnewcomer. They contributed to the final tally of 888, at time of writing, assisted by: foulpole, snakecharmer, Turambar, DbacksSkins, kishi, britdback, soco, hotclaws, dahlian, singaporedbacksfan, dstorm, unnamedDBacksfan, Philip from LA, LucaMaz3, 4 Corners Fan, mrssoco, srdmad, seton hall snake pit, isoldout, Augie's Army, Captain D Bag, Craig from Az and kkenney.
Elsewhere in the NL West, the Dodgers pipped the Marlins by a single run, the Padres lost in Philadelphia and the Rockies beat the Giants 3-2. The last contained some irony - the day after Colorado manager Clint Hurdle was ejected for arguing a balk call, his team scored the go-ahead run in the seventh, on a balk call. This time, Giants manager, Bruce Bochy, took the early shower. Our lead in the division is cut to 5.5 games.
The good news is that Micah Owings has been cleared to make his scheduled next start, versus the Mets on Friday. He pitched a bullpen session today, with some tape wrapped round the ankle he rolled during his last appearance, and experienced no problems. He still has three days left, so while the tape did make things somewhat unusual today, he may not even need it by the time Friday comes around. We're looking forward to that, as we'll be at Chase for the game. I will, however, be keeping Mrs. SnakePit well away from the camera, after she erased all the photographs taken at Dodger Stadium on Friday, to make room for pics from the Fangoria show... :-(
As 4 Corners Fan reminded me us, it's a day-game tomorrow. That will likely mean a Gameday Thread a little closer to game-time than usual, as I'll be trying to use my morning break to post that, then schedule my lunch for the first couple of innings, so I can see how Randy does. Ah, such are the perils of wage-slavery: can't we just win the Powerball and get it over with?
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Blast. I missed Max’s debut. Why couldn’t it have been over the weekend when I was around to see the games? Alas. If anyone knows where there is any video, please let me know.
I’ll be very interested to see Scherzer’s development. I hope the DBacks use him wisely. I wouldn’t mind seeing him get a start next week. Let’s see what he can do. Can’t be worse than what we saw from EdGon, right? Er, right? I don’t want to blow his arm out, though. Heaven knows, the memory of Kerry Wood will last me a lifetime.
Anyway, congrats to him. Hope I get to eventually see some of it.
by SongBird on Apr 30, 2008 2:32 AM EDT 0 recs
Did anyone notice that Max has one blue eye (right) and one brown eye (left)?
by TwinnerA on Apr 30, 2008 2:39 AM EDT 0 recs
Slightly better pic

Heterochromia [as it’s called] is more common than you’d think: about one in 500 people have it. Kate Bosworth has one blue eye and one hazel eye, Tim Mcllrath [Lead singer of Rise Against] has one brown and one blue, and Jane Seymour has one brown and one green.
by Jim McLennan on
Apr 30, 2008 2:55 AM EDT
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Is that the picture
from the NY Times article?
The different colored eyes make him even more intimidating than otherwise….
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
by DbacksSkins on
Apr 30, 2008 3:08 AM EDT
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Yep.
Oh, and you can add a pair of ultimate bad-asses to the list: Alexander the Great and Christopher Walken…
by Jim McLennan on
Apr 30, 2008 3:10 AM EDT
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Christopher Walken, Alexander the Great, and Max Scherzer.
Not a bad bit of company to keep.
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
by DbacksSkins on
Apr 30, 2008 3:16 AM EDT
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His thumnail on gameday made him look like a particularly stupid country bumbkin.
We will meet in Red 3 at the hour of scampering.
by hotclaws on
Apr 30, 2008 2:33 PM EDT
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His thumbnail picture on gameday
made him look like a particularly stupid country bumppkin.
I’m glad to see that in the fine tradition of the D’backs, he’s HAWT!
We will meet in Red 3 at the hour of scampering.
by hotclaws on
Apr 30, 2008 2:35 PM EDT
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It's obviously a robot eye
ever seen the Terminator? Yeah he’s a robot. We have our very own Optimus Prime.
Baseball season, when everything becomes right in the world.
by seton hall snake pit on
Apr 30, 2008 2:49 PM EDT
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In other news,
Timcecum suffered his first loss tonight…
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
by DbacksSkins on Apr 30, 2008 3:17 AM EDT 0 recs
And according to the headline on ESPN.com/mlb, it says the “D-backs defeat Lincecum”. I wish!
by TwinnerA on
Apr 30, 2008 3:22 AM EDT
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Me too
I am feeling the glad the schedule had us missing him both series with the Giants. Sucks for the Rockie though. Finally win a game and they don’t even get credit for it.
by SongBird on
Apr 30, 2008 3:54 AM EDT
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Not only
have we not faced Timcecum, but we haven’t faced Cain, either.
Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.
by DbacksSkins on
Apr 30, 2008 4:05 AM EDT
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Also
We played two series with the Dodgers and we’ve missed Penny.
by paqs on
Apr 30, 2008 4:44 AM EDT
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Mad Max is a good nickname
But I like Max Power :D
What a debut. Yes we lost, but if I could trade this outcome for a win in which Max gets hit a lot, I wouldn’t. We’re still 5.5 games up and now we have another legitimate starter.
by paqs on Apr 30, 2008 3:55 AM EDT 0 recs
Max Power?
Max Payne? I still like Mad Max.
Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.
by DbacksSkins on
Apr 30, 2008 4:06 AM EDT
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You don't cuddle with Max Scherzer
you strap yourself in and FEEL THE G’S!!!
by dahlian on
Apr 30, 2008 4:55 AM EDT
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There’s three ways to do things- the right way, the wrong way, and the Max Scherzer way!
"Hold on a minute, there are three important, brilliant, and complicated reasons why you should listen to me."
by kishi on
Apr 30, 2008 10:42 AM EDT
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Which way
is the Max Scherzer way?
Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.
by DbacksSkins on
Apr 30, 2008 11:56 AM EDT
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Unlike the Max Power way, the Max Scherzer is the right way- but faster!
"Hold on a minute, there are three important, brilliant, and complicated reasons why you should listen to me."
by kishi on
Apr 30, 2008 12:20 PM EDT
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How about Eye-Max?
We will meet in Red 3 at the hour of scampering.
by hotclaws on
Apr 30, 2008 2:37 PM EDT
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I'm disappointed.
Being a Tuesday (and the last issue of the semester, no less), I was booked solid at the office all damn night. Only got to catch the last part of the Suns losing, and missed all of Mad Max’s debut.
Ah well.
by Azreous on Apr 30, 2008 4:27 AM EDT 0 recs
Glad to know I am not the only one who missed Mad Max’s debut.
by SongBird on
Apr 30, 2008 4:45 AM EDT
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I was up all night myself
writing a final report for a project.
Two exams on Thursday and my finals are on Monday the 5th.
by unnamedDBacksfan on
Apr 30, 2008 8:43 AM EDT
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I'm a fan of Max Power
If only because it makes me chuckle thinking of the Simpsons episode :D
Shame I missed his outing yesterday as it seemed very impressive. I’ve got a real mix of excitement/fear though for the next few weeks when we have to take on the likes of the Mets and the Tigers… it will either make me convinced these guys are the real deal, or worried that the cart will wobble…nobody needs wobble ;)
by Wimb on Apr 30, 2008 4:47 AM EDT 0 recs
Yeah
interleague is very strange this year…. I think we’re facing the Tigers, Royals, Red Sox, and some other random teams…
Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.
by DbacksSkins on
Apr 30, 2008 11:57 AM EDT
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A's
The boys in Sedona Red slugged it out with a pretty pesky poltergeist, then stayed on to dance the night away with some of the lovely ladies who witnessed the disturbance.
by soco on
Apr 30, 2008 12:45 PM EDT
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Just our luck.
Couldn’t we please play the Rangers or Blue Jays or something?
Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.
by DbacksSkins on
Apr 30, 2008 12:50 PM EDT
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'Twas fun...
and, from a non-Dback fan, so take it for what its worth:
Crazy Mad Max has a nice ring to it. You get the crazy eye thing going on, and the mad max thing without being a simple mad max rip off.
You could even go buck wild and throw a hyphen in the mix… Crazy-Mad Max.
I dunno. Its late. That’s a super sweet picture though. If that’s not one of his baseball cards, someone needs to be fired.
Phear T.S.'s Crawdaddies...
by TexSkins on Apr 30, 2008 5:02 AM EDT 0 recs
That works,
but I think it might be a bit too long.
Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.
by DbacksSkins on
Apr 30, 2008 11:58 AM EDT
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Got to listen to some of the game, but have not read the game thread yet… anyway, anyone think maybe the promotion of Scherzer got into EdGon’s head a bit? Like people were talking, and Edgar heard them and was nervous and tight, and well that is why he pitched so poorly? Just a thought.
by Bcawz on Apr 30, 2008 10:42 AM EDT 0 recs
Dahlian claims
that there’s no such thing as a “mental state” in baseball.
Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.
by DbacksSkins on
Apr 30, 2008 11:55 AM EDT
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No,
I claimed that there’s no way for us to ascertain a player’s mental state through the t.v. screen.
It obviously exists, but as I said, we, the viewers at home, don’t know jack #### about it.
Also, former headcase, Carlos Quentin, just hit his seventh home run of the year for the White Sox. He’s now OPSin 1.075 on the season.
by dahlian on
Apr 30, 2008 2:28 PM EDT
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Is this where we bring in the standard small sample size rebuttal? =)
"Hold on a minute, there are three important, brilliant, and complicated reasons why you should listen to me."
by kishi on
Apr 30, 2008 2:51 PM EDT
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Don't
force dahlian to argue against himself….
Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.
by DbacksSkins on
Apr 30, 2008 2:58 PM EDT
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You have to use sample size alongside
considerations of past, established performance level. Is that so hard?
It’s not like I’m trying to use Robbie Hammock’s 18 at bats this year to say that he’s hitting better than Chris Snyder, or a good 50 at bat start by Salazar to say he’s better than Justin Upton.
Carlos Quentin has been a very good hitter every healthy season of his professional and amateur baseball career. He’s absolutely raking now. What do you think his actual skill-level is?
by dahlian on
Apr 30, 2008 3:04 PM EDT
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The argument about Quentin = "head case"
was never about the long term. (At least, I never interpreted it that way) It was only as it pertains to last year. You could visibly SEE (yes, redundant) the way he was pressing harder towards the middle and end of the year. I said all along that I thought he’d be very, very good over the course of his MLB career, because he has a solid track record of hitting success. But there was DEFINITELY something wrong in his head last year. He was swinging as hard as he could at pitches he would have taken while with the Sidewinders. Was it only last year? Was it the expectations placed on him by the Dbacks? Who knows.
Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.
by DbacksSkins on
Apr 30, 2008 3:11 PM EDT
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Or,
it could have been that his shoulder injury affected his bat speed, caused him to over-compensate by swinging earlier in the zone and then not be able to adjust to breaking pitches looking absolutely foolish at the plate.
But if you want to chalk it up to something in his head, I guess there’s nothing to stop you.
by dahlian on
Apr 30, 2008 3:15 PM EDT
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Except
that with the same injury, he was RAKING in Tucson again.
Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.
by DbacksSkins on
Apr 30, 2008 3:21 PM EDT
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Go ahead,
but you’re running out of time for it.
It also doesn’t help the small sample size rebuttal that it’s a performance, while somewhat above his head, is in line with his career numbers when healthy.
Obviously, he won’t be OPS+ing 178 the entire season, but I can see him putting one in around 120-125, with a mean projection around 110-115. We’ll just have to see how he adjusts the second time around the league.
I would lay money on him outperforming Byrnes with the bat, though.
by dahlian on
Apr 30, 2008 2:59 PM EDT
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Fikac
Jeremy Fikac was always drafted in every fantasy league I was ever in from 2002-2004. I think the reason is clear.
Bob Melvin Sucks
by nihil67 on Apr 30, 2008 10:43 AM EDT 0 recs
Tool-o to the DL
Dunno if this has been mentioned. Story
Maybe while on the DL, he can relearn the strike zone….
Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.
by DbacksSkins on Apr 30, 2008 1:12 PM EDT 0 recs
It couldn’t happen to a nicer guy.
On another note, I wish I hadn’t read the following from a chat on ESPN going on right now and not sure if this guy knows what he’s talking about or if he’s just trying to ruin my day or what he’s basing his opinion on if he only saw the box score and didn’t actually see him pitch. Whatever.
Will (Scottsdale): Did you see Max Scherzer’s debut last night? If so, what did you think?
Jim Callis: (2:04 PM ET ) Saw the line score, not the highlights. Scherzer has a terrific arm. The effort in his delivery scares me to death-I've never seen such a violent head jerk-and I think he could be very good for a while but also a candidate for an early-career arm injury.
by TwinnerA on
Apr 30, 2008 3:03 PM EDT
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Crap
What the heck happened to that post?
Will (Scottsdale): Did you see Max Scherzer’s debut last night? If so, what did you think?
Jim Callis: (2:04 PM ET ) Saw the line score, not the highlights. Scherzer has a terrific
arm. The effort in his delivery scares me to death-I’ve never seen such a violent head jerk-
and I think he could be very good for a while but also a candidate for an early-career arm injury.
by TwinnerA on
Apr 30, 2008 3:05 PM EDT
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I have read about the head jerk thing before but I really didn’t see it. Did anyone else?
by foulpole on
May 1, 2008 1:12 AM EDT
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Yeah,
you know that violent arm speed that Grace and Sutton were raving about? That’s not exactly a good thing when it comes to staying healthy.
by dahlian on
Apr 30, 2008 3:05 PM EDT
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I was thinking the same thing last night,
while watching him pitch…. it gave me nightmares of a Snake version of Mark Prior.
Anyone know about his durability/injury history?
Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.
by DbacksSkins on
Apr 30, 2008 3:14 PM EDT
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It’s a crap shoot… everybody’s concerned about it, but there are plenty of guys with violent arm speed who are durable MLB pitchers (Oswalt, Wagner, Smoltz), and plenty of guys with smooth deliveries who have arm problems (Prior, Mulder)... that doesn’t mean a violent delivery is more likely to produce arm problems, but one just never can tell.
"There are only two seasons: winter and baseball"
-- Bill Veeck
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