Gameday Thread, #3: 4/3 vs. Reds
by Jim McLennan on Apr 3, 2008 11:30 AM EDT
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After the disaster which was yesterday, today promises to be a real pitching clinic, with a home starter making his major league debut, against a visiting starter who was diagnosed with cancer last week. Is it entirely wrong to be hoping for the potential rainout? All cynicism aside, I certainly admire Davis's courage, wanting to hang on in there for the team, until Johnson can rejoin the rotation. The wisdom of such a decision, on the other hand, seems to be more questionable, especially in the light of his last pre-season start, which turned into a Home Run Derby for the Rockies.
Don't know much about his opponent today. He's just 22 and only has four games under his belt above the Double-A level, which makes his 3.28 minor-league ERA a little less imposing. Indeed, he has just 69 games there in total, so it seems the Reds are keen to fast-track him to the majors. Welcome to the big leagues, Johnny Cueto. Let's hope our bats give him a warm welcome. And maybe - just maybe - we'll get a home-run with someone on base today?
First pitch is at some abysmal hour like 9:35 am, Arizona time, so don't expect to hear anything of significance from me in the thread. I'm wondering what kind of crowd will show up at the park; they only had 14,000 there last night, a lot less even than we had in 2007 for out second home game (20,547). To make matters worse, rain seems almost certain - the chance is listed at 100% all afternoon - and so a delay or even cancellation seems entirely possible. In the event that's the case, here is Today's comment starter. It may be too early to be talking about replacing Lyon as closer, but when - if at all - should Melvin step in and take action?
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Let's get a W today
.. last night was not a fun experience.
by oklahomasooners on Apr 3, 2008 12:16 PM EDT reply actions
Agreed....
Especially when you fall asleep with the score at 5-3 in the middle of the 9th, wake up late, accidently lock yourself out of the house (without car keys) have to get the bus into work, arrive late, have a crudload of work on your desk, log onto MLB.com and realise your fantasy baseball closer coughed up a 5-3 lead and your 2nd fantasy closer the leading save holder in MLB history coughs up a 3 run homer...
Sigh
On the upside lets go Double D and hey its Friday tomorrow w00t
Rain
Looks like they are taking the tarp off the infield
Rookie pitching...
I don't have good memories about guys debuting versus us...
- The Question is: What is manah-manah?
- The Question is: Who cares!?
True... hopefully we break the trend tonight
by singaporedbacksfan on Apr 3, 2008 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Game's starting
Rain's staying away for now then?
by singaporedbacksfan on Apr 3, 2008 12:40 PM EDT reply actions
Young set down on strikes.
Cueto's offerings thusfar:
95 fastball
94 fastball
95 fastball
94 fastball
96 fastball
Wait
Is he the guy they traded Hamilton for? If he is from what I remember he had a brilliant spring and was a real steal.. for Hamilton!
by singaporedbacksfan on Apr 3, 2008 12:43 PM EDT reply actions
dunno, but
he looks good... his changeup clocks 86, slider 88 and fb 96 =O
- The Question is: What is manah-manah?
- The Question is: Who cares!?
just checked.. he's not. A non-roster invitee to sping training who made the starting rotation.
by singaporedbacksfan on Apr 3, 2008 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
C'mon DD...
No walks and no getting ahead 0-2 only to get to 3-2.
by oklahomasooners on Apr 3, 2008 12:46 PM EDT reply actions
81 mph FB
Is it Wakefield without the knucle?
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- The Question is: Who cares!?
That type of hit reminds me of the ...
Colorado Rockies circa late September/October 2007.
by oklahomasooners on Apr 3, 2008 12:50 PM EDT reply actions
That type of hit reminds me of the ...
Colorado Rockies circa late September/October 2007.
by oklahomasooners on Apr 3, 2008 12:51 PM EDT reply actions
And then a Phillips double
Plates Griffey. Raindrops on the camera as Junior rounds third. 1-0 Reds.
I am hoping
For just enough innings from Davis that it uses up his rotation spot, then a torrential downpour.
On the plus side...
If anyone can stall long enough for the rain to show up, it's DD.
Besides, the Rockies got bailed out by the rain the other day against St. Louis, so it only seems fair.
I need to play..
A Doug Davis walk related drinking game...but being drunk at work is frowned upon ;)
Ugh..
I forgot how the love-hate relationship with DD felt.
by oklahomasooners on Apr 3, 2008 12:57 PM EDT reply actions
It's got to be BORING to be a fielder behind DD. That said, he still needs to make that play
by Craig from Az on Apr 3, 2008 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions
at least
DD curveball is a beauty to watch
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- The Question is: Who cares!?
No ill wishes for DD
But I am attending his next scheduled start. I would much prefer to see Randy Johnson!
by Craig from Az on Apr 3, 2008 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions
About the same as usual.
Methodical, slow delivery. He looks frustrated with himself for the first inning, but that's about it.
Im listening to gameday
on the office computers MLB TV needs some new codec and I dont have admin rights *curses*
ok, we need a voodoo doll
With the image of this Reds pitcher....
All the best Brits support the Diamondbacks!
Hmm...
See I have some catching up to do with the dongley doo hickies on these posts....
All the best Brits support the Diamondbacks!
Umbrellas
are up in the crowd. Bring on the rain, baby!!!
Getting squeezed?
From Gameday a lot of possible strikes seem to be called balls by DD.
by singaporedbacksfan on Apr 3, 2008 1:11 PM EDT reply actions
nope, all balls
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by Muu on Apr 3, 2008 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Small K-zone
I thought the Reds pitcher got a few questionable as well.
by Craig from Az on Apr 3, 2008 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I know what Davis is doing....
Trying to use up as much time as possible for the rain to come...clever guy :)
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looking at the weather
looks like he just needs to take his time. Mother Nature will do the rest
Baseball season, when everything becomes right in the world.
by seton hall snake pit on Apr 3, 2008 1:18 PM EDT reply actions
I feel ill
think 'll just put my head under the pillow until it all goes away.
We will meet in Red 3 at the hour of scampering.
Rain still coming down.
Nothing too heavy, but it's decent.
Gonna need a little more to start talking PP.
back to real life with another walk
- The Question is: What is manah-manah?
- The Question is: Who cares!?
Rain
We might actually prefer a rainout today, doncha think? Soon before it gets to anywhere near the 5th.
I don't think Doug Davis is all there mentally. I heard he was sick of talking about his thyroid cancer, which you can't blame him.
What groove. He is just grooving balls and walks.
Blah
DD gives up another single... now I am joining the crowd in hoping for rain
by singaporedbacksfan on Apr 3, 2008 1:30 PM EDT reply actions
Rain coming down better.
If it continues like this for another half inning or so, we might be in business for a delay.
Another K for DD
Are the Reds trying to get to the 5th in a hurry?
Let it rain!
I guess we'll be seeing the Petit Unit pitching next for AZ.
Hopefully, this next time through the lineup they can do something, anything to get a hit.
Crap, 6 strikeouts???
Uglier.
I'd rather listen to "called strike 3" than see called strike 3.
by oklahomasooners on Apr 3, 2008 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Adam Dunn...
Lumbers back to the wall to make a pretty good catch that would have been routine for pretty much anyone else.
Still 3-0. Of bigger concern: the rain has slowed again.
Off to bed
My cough and flu medicine is starting to take effect... Go Dbacks! Failing that... Let it rain!
by singaporedbacksfan on Apr 3, 2008 1:43 PM EDT reply actions
Damn
If they get no hit by a third rookie pitcher, that's just downright humiliating. Someone anyone has got to get a hit.
Welp...
More balls than strikes for Davis, but the game's still just 3-0. I dunno how I feel about that.
Hammock
Hammock is great behind the plate.
It's really too bad he hasn't hit too well in his career.
well the bright side
for doing so terrible DD didn't do too bad only 2 ER
Baseball season, when everything becomes right in the world.
by seton hall snake pit on Apr 3, 2008 1:55 PM EDT reply actions
it Petit
can end it here
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by seton hall snake pit on Apr 3, 2008 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
as I said before
"Rookie pitching...
I don't have good memories about guys debuting versus us...
- The Question is: What is manah-manah?
- The Question is: Who cares!?
by Muu on Apr 3, 2008 12:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs "
- The Question is: What is manah-manah?
- The Question is: Who cares!?
Although I wasnt here all spring training
I was worried by the impression that we were always getting behind in the games against the "real" pitchers and only coming back into the games against minor leaguers.
I really hope that my impression was wrong, but I havent seen much so far this season to dissuade me from those worries...
All the best Brits support the Diamondbacks!
oh please
I just dont wanna get shuttout by this rookie...
- The Question is: What is manah-manah?
- The Question is: Who cares!?
Shut out?
I am worried about getting perfect game'd by this rookie!
by oklahomasooners on Apr 3, 2008 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions
i was gonna go with Danny Batista
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by seton hall snake pit on Apr 3, 2008 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions
i really liked batista
and his canon of an arm. shame he didn't amount to much after leaving the diamondbacks.
I thought once it was was known Davis had a problem
with his health,it seemed crazy to play him.Guess I was right.
We will meet in Red 3 at the hour of scampering.
Davis didn't actually play too bad
When you look at it, he only gave up 2 ER. Way too many walks, way too many pitches, not enough innings, but we're still in this game.
Maybe the rookie doesn't have much lasting power. We've got lots of time to come back.
I just figured it had to have an effect
metally,if nothing else
We will meet in Red 3 at the hour of scampering.
hes thrown just 58 pitches through 5 IP
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- The Question is: Who cares!?
by Muu on Apr 3, 2008 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Please
I am begging the players here to take a little pride and show why they are in the big leagues.
Perfect through five.
Now with our luck, we'll get through the bottom half and THEN get rained out, giving Cueto the unblemished game.
here we go!!
we want a pitcher not a belly itcher!!!
Baseball season, when everything becomes right in the world.
by seton hall snake pit on Apr 3, 2008 2:10 PM EDT reply actions
rally rally
the pitcher's name is Sally
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by seton hall snake pit on Apr 3, 2008 2:10 PM EDT reply actions
lot of people really like him
I can see why.
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by seton hall snake pit on Apr 3, 2008 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
BAM!!!!
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by seton hall snake pit on Apr 3, 2008 2:11 PM EDT reply actions
here we go
he's a youngun and now he's in his head
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by seton hall snake pit on Apr 3, 2008 2:12 PM EDT reply actions
Will this be like the game last year against the Padres?
When Peavy sat down 9 in a row (to go along with his other 4 Ks) only to lose?
We can only hope.
My bad, I think he had a lot more than 13 Ks.. something like 17.
by oklahomasooners on Apr 3, 2008 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
16 K I think
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- The Question is: Who cares!?
by Muu on Apr 3, 2008 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Young on pace
for the Golden Sombrero
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- The Question is: Who cares!?
crappy strike zone
this whole series. Gameday has shown a lot of strikes as balls and vice versa. I think both pitchers and hitters have no idea where the zone is at.
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by seton hall snake pit on Apr 3, 2008 2:18 PM EDT reply actions
From the looks of things on TV...
Tonight's strike zone is generous on the outside corner (for a righty) and tight on the inside corner.
I started watching the game last night when Byrnsey got up in the ninth ...
So if shit REALLY goes to hell from this point on -- I'll say it is fair to blame me.
Medders
oh god!
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by seton hall snake pit on Apr 3, 2008 2:19 PM EDT reply actions
Radio saying
That Hammock is having a good game behind the plate. Have there been any more discussions on trading MM? IS it even something that should be considered?
he made aother good play on a bad bunting by the reds batter
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- The Question is: Who cares!?
by Muu on Apr 3, 2008 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
medders finishing his delivery more inclined towards first base...
and the balls are coming togheter... =[
- The Question is: What is manah-manah?
- The Question is: Who cares!?
Petit
Couldn't they have left Petit in? Does Keppinger gotten on base every single time in this series? It sure feels like it. How'd Cueto get on? I actually had to work for a second.
u mean lucky stuff right?
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by Muu on Apr 3, 2008 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Whew!
Okay ... I want to crush their dreams in the final three innings and ruin their fan's evenings... just like they to us last night.
tough AB by Hudson
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by seton hall snake pit on Apr 3, 2008 2:40 PM EDT reply actions
well I'd like to think
Cueto is done. 2 innings to do some damage to that putrid bullpen
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by seton hall snake pit on Apr 3, 2008 2:43 PM EDT reply actions
good start for Sinister *sarcasm*
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by seton hall snake pit on Apr 3, 2008 2:46 PM EDT reply actions
ickq
No sarcasm comment needed. Pretty sick having 8 walks so far for our pitchers and not one for theirs.
9 walks 3 hits
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by seton hall snake pit on Apr 3, 2008 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I think I found our problem
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by seton hall snake pit on Apr 3, 2008 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Cincy
They will be glad to leave there after such good starts by Webb and Haren, the implosion by Lyon and the drubbing by Cueto. I told my co-worker about Cueto and he said he would have to add him to his fantasy team.
I am so ridiculously pissed about that.
I've been trying to add Cueto to my team for three and a half weeks, and Yahoo just added him last night. To waivers, not free agents.
And I'm last on the waiver wire somehow.
GG me.
Oh Great
We get steroid Matt Williams in the booth against the rockies...
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Please
Do they want to be know as the lighthitting Diamondbacks again this year?
Wow, a baserunner! Man, would that be something if Jupton could come through once again?
Jupton
That would be something if he could get another homer and tie his entire 2007 season of 2 homers in one game.
tying run on first
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by seton hall snake pit on Apr 3, 2008 2:57 PM EDT reply actions
Sntderman on the way!!!
See him sprint from the ullpen with the greatest of "ease"...
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bases loaded
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by seton hall snake pit on Apr 3, 2008 2:59 PM EDT reply actions
yeah
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by seton hall snake pit on Apr 3, 2008 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
at least hit it
high and hard
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by seton hall snake pit on Apr 3, 2008 3:01 PM EDT reply actions
Sac fly.
Not fancy, but gets the job done. 3-2.
Interestingly, he still doesn't have a big league AB.
Young
not seeing the ball well today
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by seton hall snake pit on Apr 3, 2008 3:04 PM EDT reply actions
closer and feeling better
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by seton hall snake pit on Apr 3, 2008 3:05 PM EDT reply actions
Cruz control.
Keeps up with last year's trend of an obscenely high K/9 rate by striking out the first guy he sees.
KKKEEEEEYYYAAAA
2 big K's
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by seton hall snake pit on Apr 3, 2008 3:10 PM EDT reply actions
Juan Cruzed through that inning
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by seton hall snake pit on Apr 3, 2008 3:11 PM EDT reply actions
I'm glad our bullpen offers such excellent opportunities for puns. Maybe that's the real reason they got rid of Valverde.
"Look what it's done for us. People still don't recognize us but..." *snaps fingers*
"We're contenders now!"
he really is Val"verde" with envy?
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by seton hall snake pit on Apr 3, 2008 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
last chance saloon here
I wouldn't object to extra innings
We will meet in Red 3 at the hour of scampering.
Byrnes earn your money
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by seton hall snake pit on Apr 3, 2008 3:17 PM EDT reply actions
Build a time machine and change history?
"Look what it's done for us. People still don't recognize us but..." *snaps fingers*
"We're contenders now!"
If I built one
It would probably be 0-3.. Im that unlucky..
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Swung at a ball
any further away the 1st baseman would have caught it! >.<
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YOU GOTTA BE KIDDING ME
bad called strike and even worse swing
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by seton hall snake pit on Apr 3, 2008 3:20 PM EDT reply actions
That's the "O-ned-ers"
Semi-obscure references a specialty!
"Look what it's done for us. People still don't recognize us but..." *snaps fingers*
"We're contenders now!"
We'll be...the Oneders!
Like "one"-der!
The boys in Sedona Red slugged it out with a pretty pesky poltergeist, then stayed on to dance the night away with some of the lovely ladies who witnessed the disturbance.
Okay, I've figured this out
My day off, the Diamondbacks win. The days I go to work, the Diamondbacks lose. Obviously, I need to quit my job.
Any volunteers to support me? It's for the team!
"Look what it's done for us. People still don't recognize us but..." *snaps fingers*
"We're contenders now!"
I'll do my part.
It's like living with a six-year old.
by 4 Corners Fan on Apr 3, 2008 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
One-run
Last year we won one-run games. So far this year we have lost 2 one-run games. Barf. 1-5 starters went 0-19. Now that's pathetic.
Pythagorean
We should expect to do worse in 1 run games this year. Nobody can keep up what we did last year.
Don't panic. We're only three games into the season!
by Craig from Az on Apr 3, 2008 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
The two 1 run losses this year aren't the same
one was a 2 run lead that was blown and the other was a comeback that came up short. The end result is the same but shouldn't be treated the same way. One is bad relieving the other is not enough offense.
The boys in Sedona Red slugged it out with a pretty pesky poltergeist, then stayed on to dance the night away with some of the lovely ladies who witnessed the disturbance.
Yankee fan impression of the day
THIS LINE UP IS TERRIBLE WE SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN A-ROD IN THE OFF-SEASON!!!! FIRE JOSH BYRNES!!!!
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by seton hall snake pit on Apr 3, 2008 4:03 PM EDT reply actions
So here's what I take from the game
the offense didn't get it done. Part of that is a ridiculous performance by Cueto, and part of that is just plain sucking today.
The reality is that we would have been lucky to escape with a win today. Sure the score was 3-2 but all of the peripheral numbers suggest a blowout. The pitching cannot allow walks all game long and expect to come away without a scratch, and the offense needs to figure out how to put the ball into play. No more wasted ABs by striking out anymore. You hear me? Bad D'backs! No dessert for you!
The boys in Sedona Red slugged it out with a pretty pesky poltergeist, then stayed on to dance the night away with some of the lovely ladies who witnessed the disturbance.
bad bad dbacks... no brownies to you
- The Question is: What is manah-manah?
- The Question is: Who cares!?
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