Gameday Thread, #27: 4/29 vs. Astros
Houston Astros at Arizona Diamondbacks, Apr 29, 2008 9:40 PM EDT
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Another largely-unknown starter goes for Houston - it's only Cassel's sixth career start, with just 27.2 major-league innings to his name, even though he'll be 28 before the season ends. He's replacing the injured Wandy Rodriguez, and got the win in his only previous outing, allowing seven hits and three earned runs in five innings, as the Astros beat the Reds.
We send out Edgar Gonzalez, who has been remarkably consistent, allowing three earned runs during each of his last three outings - though ended up with a loss, a no-decision and a win in them. A 4.66 ERA is not bad for any #5 starter - and if Edgar falters early, we may get to see the debut of eagerly-anticipated prospect Max Scherzer. He pitched 23 innings for Tucson, with a 1.17 ERA and a stunning K:BB ratio of 38:3. However, any decision there may depend on how Micah Owing's bullpen session goes - he rolled his ankle running the bases during his last start. With an off-day Thursday, he'll have an extra day to recover.
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Today’s lineup:
C. Young cf .225
S. Drew ss .272
O. Hudson 2b .260
C. Jackson 1b .345
M. Reynolds 3b .255
J. Upton rf .323
J. Salazar lf .304
C. Snyder c .217
E. Gonzalez p .167
Wolf moves up to the 2 hole and Salazar gets the start in order to rest Bam Bam’s hammys against the RHP.
by foulpole on Apr 29, 2008 8:23 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Those other guys:
K. Matsui 2b .256
M. Bourn cf .198
M. Tejada ss .337
L. Berkman 1b .312
C. Lee lf .260
G. Blum 3b .206
J. Cruz Jr. rf .087
J.R. Towles c .193
J. Cassel p .500
Uh-oh
Speaking of pitchers you might want to pitch around… =)
"Hold on a minute, there are three important, brilliant, and complicated reasons why you should listen to me."
Don't argue with unarguable statistics!
He’s batting .500, man! You can only stop him half the time!
"Hold on a minute, there are three important, brilliant, and complicated reasons why you should listen to me."
Oops
(2nd inning comment). This is your fault, foulpole.
Cassel's hit...
I felt was inevitable given your comment and the awesome jinx power this site seems to have at the moment.
soco's keys to the game
1) Grab me an egg burger at Fatburger with the missus
2) Stop by a store to get an ice pack for the missus’ busted hand (nothing I did, I swear!)
3) Come home for some D’backs baseball
4) Dread tomorrow
5) Dessert?
The boys in Sedona Red slugged it out with a pretty pesky poltergeist, then stayed on to dance the night away with some of the lovely ladies who witnessed the disturbance.
DbacksSkins tracks soco down to find out what happened to mrssoco’s hand. =)
"Hold on a minute, there are three important, brilliant, and complicated reasons why you should listen to me."
Well I'm right here
not like I’m hiding.
The boys in Sedona Red slugged it out with a pretty pesky poltergeist, then stayed on to dance the night away with some of the lovely ladies who witnessed the disturbance.
Inventory at my work
I’ll be there till the wee early of the morning
The boys in Sedona Red slugged it out with a pretty pesky poltergeist, then stayed on to dance the night away with some of the lovely ladies who witnessed the disturbance.
Ugh
You have my sympathies. I have not-fond memories of doing inventory at a previous job. Two weekends a year, and the majority of the staff has to stay until that point when it’s no longer too late at night, because it’s now too early in the morning.
"Hold on a minute, there are three important, brilliant, and complicated reasons why you should listen to me."
They're definitely NOT
the Radres
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
WHOA--
was that Jim rocking out on the commercial??
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
I missed it!
What commercial? I can rewind..
by snakecharmer on Apr 29, 2008 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Commercial montage for "Oh, that Byrnes", before they asked the question.
It looks like they have a very brief clip of Jim rocking out. I think it’s clear enough that when you get to the spot, you’ll know it.
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
Will have to keep an eye open for that!
I await ‘charmer’s opinion on this matter.
by Jim McLennan on Apr 29, 2008 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd have to see it again to be positive,
but I’d say I’m 75% sure.
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
Now I'm very curious.
"Hold on a minute, there are three important, brilliant, and complicated reasons why you should listen to me."
It looked like
Jim standing up, headbanging, flashing the sign of the devil.
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
I demand evidence via YouTube.
"Hold on a minute, there are three important, brilliant, and complicated reasons why you should listen to me."
You're going to have to ask 'Charmer.
I don’t have any way of getting ahold of it.
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
I don't know that I can get it
but I’ll try.
by snakecharmer on Apr 29, 2008 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry Jim, it's not you
This guy wasn’t blond and was larger than you.
by snakecharmer on Apr 29, 2008 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh well.
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
by DbacksSkins on Apr 29, 2008 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
SNYDERMAN
guns down Kaz Matsui. Nice job.
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
Matsui runs straight into the web spun by Snyderman!
by singaporedbacksfan on Apr 29, 2008 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm sorry
This wolf thing doesn’t work for me. He’s just Drew. I don’t think you can escape his essential Drewiness. We should just embrace it.
by britdback on Apr 29, 2008 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
But...
...she doesn’t look Drewish.
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
by DbacksSkins on Apr 29, 2008 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
+1-2-3-4-5
"Hold on a minute, there are three important, brilliant, and complicated reasons why you should listen to me."
And in other news
Hairston just hit his second homer of the game for the Padres, but they’re still down by three with only one out remaining in the ninth.
.212 at time of writing
Of course, Carlos Quentin is hitting over .300…
by Jim McLennan on Apr 29, 2008 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, probably
They say he got a terrible jump.
by snakecharmer on Apr 29, 2008 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Awesome.
Great way to start. I need a jinx to get the Astros going. Any takers?
Phear T.S.'s Crawdaddies...
Who did you get to jinx us??
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
Well
it worked, whatever you did.
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
Come on, Edgon!
Stop auditioning for Scherzer to get a spot in the rotation!
"Hold on a minute, there are three important, brilliant, and complicated reasons why you should listen to me."
Doh!
A double means we are now down 1 – 0…
by singaporedbacksfan on Apr 29, 2008 9:48 PM EDT reply actions
Have we heard any word on how Micah’s session went today?
"Hold on a minute, there are three important, brilliant, and complicated reasons why you should listen to me."
Well
from what I heard on the DBacks BP show.
by unnamedDBacksfan on Apr 29, 2008 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions
What did they say? I only get to follow the games by Gameday right now.
"Hold on a minute, there are three important, brilliant, and complicated reasons why you should listen to me."
try the Astros feed
irritating but at least the right sport
We will meet in Red 3 at the hour of scampering.
Edgar Gonzalez?
Guy we brought up through the system. Our #5/#6/swing man.
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
If he doesn't get replaced in the rotation by Max Scherzer,
then he’ll certainly go back into the bullpen when Doug Davis finishes his cancer surgery rehab.
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
Just increased his pitch count a lot though… May very well see Max today.
by singaporedbacksfan on Apr 29, 2008 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Edgar
The worst thing about Edgar isn’t how many runs he’s given up. It’s his peripherals and how he looks on the mound.
I think Robert S. posted stats on DBBP showing that Edgar had some of the worst peripherals in the NL. Huge WHIP, FIP, etc.
by Philip from LA on Apr 29, 2008 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Sandstone, with the ever-constant presence of ex-hippies.
"Hold on a minute, there are three important, brilliant, and complicated reasons why you should listen to me."
Out of curiosity,
is Robert S. using just this season’s data?
With only four starts to his name, there’s still too much noise in the data.
Looking at last season’s numbers, his periphs were exactly what you would expect from a pitcher with an ERA in the high fours or low fives, i.e. a fifth starter.
by dahlian on Apr 29, 2008 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I couldn't care less about peripherals.
Peripherals don’t win or lose games.
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
That's what they said
about run differential.
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
In my book
how many runs the guy gives up IS more important than peripherals—which is what I was taking exception to at the other Phil.
More important than run differential is Win/Loss record.
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
by DbacksSkins on Apr 29, 2008 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
But:
(1) Peripherals is the best predictor of ERA, especially given a small sample size like this season.
(2) It’s not like Edgar has a good ERA. After his first inning, his ERA is over 5 for the season.
(3) Edgar had a 5 ERA last season, and a career ERA of 5.8
by Philip from LA on Apr 29, 2008 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
He had an ERA in the low 4s
as a starter last year.
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
by DbacksSkins on Apr 29, 2008 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions
You can slice statistics all you want. The bottom line is that Edgar hasn’t proven that he can be effective starter in the majors (especially in our ballpark where he gives up a lot of home runs). It wouldn’t annoy me that much if we didn’t have better options, starting with Scherzer and maybe even Petit.
by Philip from LA on Apr 29, 2008 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd rather save Scherzer
and work on his development more before we let the whole league see him.
Anyway, the fact that EdGon’s ERA was much better last year when he started is particularly important in his case—he came in to pitch during A LOT of blowouts, to save the rest of the relievers.
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
by DbacksSkins on Apr 29, 2008 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree..
EdGon was very valuable as a inning-eater last year… He may not be an ace, but we still need a real innings eater.
by singaporedbacksfan on Apr 29, 2008 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
So you’re saying he wasn’t trying during those times? And we should discount that performance? I thought a major league pitcher always tries to retire hitters and not give up runs. If anything those situations might be easier because there’s less pressure, the other manager might not use pinch-hitters, etc.
by Philip from LA on Apr 29, 2008 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
No, of course not.
But it’s a whole ‘nother story when the other team’s in a groove and has already scored a bunch.
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
by DbacksSkins on Apr 29, 2008 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Well that sounds reasonable, but until it’s backed up by more evidence, I don’t see a good reason to discount it. Just looking at Edgar’s ERA has a starter seems to be slicing his statistics too finely. I’m not trying to slice Petit’s statistics favorably.
by Philip from LA on Apr 29, 2008 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Well
then why was there such a steep difference last year between EdGon’s starting ERA and relieving ERA?
It’s like the old debate about whether closers do worse in a non-save situation.
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
by DbacksSkins on Apr 29, 2008 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Disagree,
it’s nothing like that.
If a closer can’t work themselves up to get outs in a non-save situation, then they should be pistol-whipped and told to suck it out.
They’re a reliever. Their job is to get outs.
Now relievers and starters, those differences are much more pronounced.
::sigh::
I was making a rough analogy.
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
by DbacksSkins on Apr 29, 2008 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I disagree,
there’s such a difference between having to get ready at a moment’s notice to pitch and being on a set routine and knowing days beforehand that you’ll be starting.
I think the whole “pitching to the score” or pitching in a blowout thing is overrated, though.
That's a good point.
I didn’t even consider the rotation issue.
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
by DbacksSkins on Apr 29, 2008 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions
A perfectly-serviceable #5 starter
He’ll never win the Cy Young, but he’s decent enough to fill out the back end of the rotation and/or be the long man in the bullpen. Is Petit better? Maybe, though his ERA coming in was actually worse than EdGon’s. As for Scherzer, there is no rush I can see to start his service clock, especially since he’d only be in the rotation until Davis returns – only two or three starts.
by Jim McLennan on Apr 29, 2008 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess I strongly prefer Petit. Petit is a year and half younger than Edgar. Petit pitched well in winter ball and spring training. Petit had a lower ERA last year and so far has a lower ERA this year (though small sample size). Petit has a high career ERA, but he only has 80 or so career innings and highly influenced by his rookie season (so is Edgar’s career ERA).
Scherzer has been called up. Hasn’t his service clock already started? Or at least, won’t his service clock start even if he pitches in the bullpen, which is what they’re planning to do now?
by Philip from LA on Apr 29, 2008 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I really think
Petit has a slightly brighter future ahead of him, but EdGon is also out of options. I’d rather keep both in case of injury.
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
by DbacksSkins on Apr 29, 2008 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions
His service clock has already started,
just by being on the ML roster.
And it doesn’t matter much anyways. I have a hard time believing that he won’t be on the opening day roster next year, so it won’t be a matter of a third of a season here, a half of a season in ‘09 and his arb clock starts in ‘10.
But it'd stop...
As soon as he goes back down. He is only 23 and has just 21 pro ball-games under his belt – that’s less than one-tenth the number of Justin Upton, though obviously starters will play less anyway. I’m just not convinced he is MENTALLY ready for the majors yet, despite the startling success he’s had. I’d rather get him a bit more polished and simply used to facing better hitters: four games above Double-A seems perilously rapid.
by Jim McLennan on Apr 29, 2008 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Okay,
but that will only make a difference if for some reason he’s not able to start next season on the major league roster.
We’re past the point of the season where he can accrue a full season’s worth of eligibility and there is no difference between six years, two months on the roster and six years, four months.
I think that people are making to big a deal out of the service clock issue. Max is probably going back down when DD comes back (unless we can deal EdGon before hand) and his clock will stop.
Who wants EdGon?
He’s a perfectly serviceable fifth starter, but can’t team just find guys like him in their AAA affiliate?
Ask Colorado...
...or any other team with a horrific pitching staff.
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
by DbacksSkins on Apr 29, 2008 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions
True
But I’m not convinced he’s thatmuch better than someone they can call up from Colorado Springs.
Perhaps not.
I think we’re soon going to see.
Their only good starter this year is Aaron Cook.
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
by DbacksSkins on Apr 29, 2008 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions
You can slice statistics all you want. The bottom line is that Edgar hasn’t proven that he can be effective starter in the majors (especially in our ballpark where he gives up a lot of home runs). It wouldn’t annoy me that much if we didn’t have better options, starting with Scherzer and maybe even Petit.by Philip from LA on Apr 29, 2008 7:08 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
True that. Or even Juan Cruz.
Cruz
was pretty inconsistent when he was a starter for us. I know he didn’t want to go to the bullpen, but coming out of the ‘pen, he has stretches where he is absolutely DOMINANT.
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
Besides,
just look at my signature. Would we rather see Freddy Krueger stuff every 5th day, or more often?
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
Dammit!! I'm wrong!
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
by DbacksSkins on Apr 29, 2008 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions
My opinion
In my mind, a player’s skill changes less than his numbers do, and peripherals, in my opinion, are a better predictor of skill, and while they obviously don’t win championships, they can forecast a pitcher’s true talent more than ERA and record.
Depends on the peripherals
However, things like FIP, which don’t take defense into account, have their weaknesses too. I remember a long discussion with shoe, when we were doing the community projections, on how Arizona pitchers had ALL outperformed FIP – he didn’t think it’d happen again this year, but thus far, they collectively have the biggest gap in the NL.
by Jim McLennan on Apr 29, 2008 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions
As dahlian mentioned before, it has been shown that peripherals have a stronger correlation year-to-year, which shows they show more skill, and less statistical variation, but you’re right, they do have some problems, like FIP’s inability to count the strength (fly balls/line drives/ground balls) of the balls hit off the pitcher.
Yeah.
That’s my biggest gripe with FIP—it undervalues players like Webby who rely on the ground ball.
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
by DbacksSkins on Apr 29, 2008 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
The other thing is that run differential is only a good predictor of wins and losses early in the season. When you have a large enough sample size, your actual wins and losses become a better predictor.
by Philip from LA on Apr 29, 2008 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Are you Joe Morgan?
“Peripherals don’t win or lose games.”
I bet you think a pitcher’s record is more important than ERA?
by Philip from LA on Apr 29, 2008 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
by DbacksSkins on Apr 29, 2008 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
To be honest and serious...
I like WHIP to grade out pitchers. Funny that I say that and am a fan of the Astros. Some of their WHIPs look like ERAs.
Phear T.S.'s Crawdaddies...
Ouch....
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
by DbacksSkins on Apr 29, 2008 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Dammit EdGon.
2-0.
CoJack almost made a great play to save the run, though, and get out of the inning.
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
Guess what?
2 runs isn’t going to be enough to beat us, I don’t think.
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
And... WOW is this a far cry from last year
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
Lay seige to the Cassel
We will meet in Red 3 at the hour of scampering.
by hotclaws on Apr 29, 2008 9:59 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Hah!
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
by DbacksSkins on Apr 29, 2008 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Interesting
Astros pitcher is the brother of Patriots QB Matt Cassel, who was drafted after never playing a college down at USC.
Really?
I knew the spelling was the same but I didn’t realize they’re related.
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
by DbacksSkins on Apr 29, 2008 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't hath lie
If that makes any sense ;) I’m feeling like getting my Renaissance on after all this castle business.
Hey!
O-Dawg with a little Texas leaguer between center and left.
And…. what a surprise, he’s talking to the 1B.
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
Berkman is the most chatty cathy there is...
he talks to himself when no one is on.
Phear T.S.'s Crawdaddies...
And
CoJack ties the game with his 4th of the year.
Like I said, 2 runs won’t beat us anymore.
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
CoJack!
Awesome!
"Hold on a minute, there are three important, brilliant, and complicated reasons why you should listen to me."
It's really nice
to be able to score more than about 1.3 runs per game this year.
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
Damned Doggers
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
by DbacksSkins on Apr 29, 2008 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Colorado vs. San Francisco
I might have to sneak a peek between innings because I’m interested (for fantasy purposes and not) to see if Aaron Cook is the real deal, because he’s been great this year. Oh I forgot, he’s facing a Double A team. My bad. ;-)
For my money,
there’s only one broadcast worth watching there….
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
by DbacksSkins on Apr 29, 2008 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I think it's related to the cojack nickname
I’m not entirely paying attention…
by snakecharmer on Apr 29, 2008 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
It was Telly Savalas
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
by DbacksSkins on Apr 29, 2008 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
And
play at the plate! HE’S OUT!!
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
DROOOO
guns him down at the dish!!
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
Interesting Numbers on CoJack
Throughout his career CoJack is .375/.390/.554 when swinging at the first pitch, which is a far cry from his career numbers of .285/.368/.452. For him, being aggresive is key.
What exactly does that mean?
What if he fouls it off? Is that scored as a hit or an out?
by Jim McLennan on Apr 29, 2008 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions
It counts as nothing,
those “on the first pitch numbers” only count if the ball is put in play, which is why they’re just about useless.
I like how in the midst of our big long discussion about Edgar, he continues to give up hits and walks :)
by Philip from LA on Apr 29, 2008 10:19 PM EDT reply actions
I love
calling Jeff Salazar “Sally”. DEFINITELY works for him.
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
Nooooo no no no
He needs a new one too.
by snakecharmer on Apr 29, 2008 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I liked Salazar Slytherin—makes him sound scary. It’s a little long, tho.
It's like living with a six-year old.
by 4 Corners Fan on Apr 29, 2008 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions
D'oh
GIDP for Salazar.
"Hold on a minute, there are three important, brilliant, and complicated reasons why you should listen to me."
Upton leads off with a single
Well, we must still score runs in any case to win… despite the preoccupation with EdGon…Score enough and most pitchers can win!
by singaporedbacksfan on Apr 29, 2008 10:23 PM EDT reply actions
Well I think we’ll see Scherzer at some point today. Which is good news.
by Philip from LA on Apr 29, 2008 10:31 PM EDT reply actions
sucks at defense
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
by DbacksSkins on Apr 29, 2008 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Wasn't his fault
You can’t expect him to cover second on that play…that’s on Drew for not covering/Reynolds for not throwing to first.
What?
Not Jackson’s fault?
You’re clearly not trying hard enough. :-)
by Jim McLennan on Apr 29, 2008 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah.
CoJack shoulda turned that into a quadruple play. CoJack sucks.
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
by DbacksSkins on Apr 29, 2008 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I think that was a mistake by Reynolds
But, neither Drew nor Hudson would’ve been able to get to the bag, so that was just a weird play all around.
by snakecharmer on Apr 29, 2008 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Great...
Now its bases loaded with 1 out..
by singaporedbacksfan on Apr 29, 2008 10:35 PM EDT reply actions
I'd take bases loaded with 1 out
over a runner on 2nd with 1 out. :-\
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
by DbacksSkins on Apr 29, 2008 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Well in retrospect, SURE
The boys in Sedona Red slugged it out with a pretty pesky poltergeist, then stayed on to dance the night away with some of the lovely ladies who witnessed the disturbance.
Uh oh.
Full count turns into a walk. Bases loaded.
REALLY need a double play here.
And….. Bryan Price just said “Max” into the phone. (Seriously. You could hear him)
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
like roadkill?
We will meet in Red 3 at the hour of scampering.
by hotclaws on Apr 29, 2008 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Dunno.
Roadkill’s fastball ain’t what it used to be.
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
by DbacksSkins on Apr 29, 2008 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Max should’ve started this game in the first place
by Philip from LA on Apr 29, 2008 10:36 PM EDT reply actions
I disagree
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
by DbacksSkins on Apr 29, 2008 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions
So 6 runs in 3 innings was a good result?
by Philip from LA on Apr 29, 2008 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
In retrospect, no
but that’s in retrospect.
The boys in Sedona Red slugged it out with a pretty pesky poltergeist, then stayed on to dance the night away with some of the lovely ladies who witnessed the disturbance.
It's 20-20, after all.
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
by DbacksSkins on Apr 29, 2008 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
There were a million reasons at the time to think that Scherzer would’ve been a better option. Starting with Edgar’s peripherals this season, ERA this season, ERA last season, and career ERA.
by Philip from LA on Apr 29, 2008 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I still
think it was the right decision.
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
by DbacksSkins on Apr 29, 2008 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions
And three runs come in
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EdGon
gives up a bases loaded double.
We can still win this game, but it’ll be rough, and we need to not give up anymore runs.
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
It's only the third?
Still got a lot of baseball to play.
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Jim and everyone else: I’m right about Edgar. Just admit it.
by Philip from LA on Apr 29, 2008 10:38 PM EDT reply actions
What was the original argument?
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Well, yeah
Can’t argue with that. He does long relief well, but as a starter he makes me ill
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Well if that was the argument,
then I’m not quite sure what we were arguing about…. I think we all agree on that.
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
by DbacksSkins on Apr 29, 2008 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Well maybe I haven’t done it on this board, but I’ve lobbied for some time on DBBP for Edgar to be taken out of the rotation.
by Philip from LA on Apr 29, 2008 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I think we'd all love that
and with Scherzer coming up we might get our wish. Unfortunately if Max doesn’t work as a starter it becomes a “who the hell do we put in there until DD comes back? Bring Petit back?”
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Actually
I lobbied for Edgar to be taken out of the rotation before you did. Like, years ago. But I didn’t tell anyone.
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
by DbacksSkins on Apr 29, 2008 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I disagree
I still think he could be an excellent cook, and nothing you can tell me otherwise will convince me.
"Hold on a minute, there are three important, brilliant, and complicated reasons why you should listen to me."
So did piss-poor pitching
and Salazar misplaying that ball off the wall.
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With his helmet on,
Jose Cruz Jr. kinda looks like a Hispanic Andy Pettitte.
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
It did.
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
by DbacksSkins on Apr 29, 2008 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Do or do not. There is no try.
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No, it didn't hit a seat... I think it just hit the top of the wall and bounced back in.
Either way, the ‘Stros just got robbed.
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
by DbacksSkins on Apr 29, 2008 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Another score off a deep hit ball
with a Salazar misplay. Hard ball to get to, definitely, but he did not have a good line to it at all.
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MAD MAX!!
IS COMING IN!!!!
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
Hopefully he won't grow up to hate the Malibu PD
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Or Jews
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
by DbacksSkins on Apr 29, 2008 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions
That was the implication
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Well, but,
all officers of the Malibu PD are Jewish, but not all Jews are Malibu Police Officers.
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
by DbacksSkins on Apr 29, 2008 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions
now wait a minute
can you really label him Mad Max when he hasn’t pitched a single inning? you gotta earn that label.
He's gone from Double A to the majors in a matter of weeks, after being drafted in 2006.
He can be Mad Max.
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
by DbacksSkins on Apr 29, 2008 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions
But Mel Gibson in a post-Apocalyptic ass-kicking future?
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
by DbacksSkins on Apr 29, 2008 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Wooooooooooo!
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Had the Rockies game to distract me for the brief internet outage- Tulo’s injured his leg, he’s out of the game in the first.
"Hold on a minute, there are three important, brilliant, and complicated reasons why you should listen to me."
Oooh wow
Well with his numbers, that actually might be a good thing for the Rockies…
by snakecharmer on Apr 29, 2008 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Could this be
A trip to the pseudo-DL, so he can be sent to Triple-A for a bit, with honor? The Unabled List, if you like – as in “unable to hit”?
by Jim McLennan on Apr 29, 2008 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Not unless he was a theater major
He was up and limping when I turned to the channel, and then the Giants hit a shot that he should have grabbed, but you could see how his leg just wouldn’t let him move for it.
"Hold on a minute, there are three important, brilliant, and complicated reasons why you should listen to me."
That shows you how bad Tucson is this year.
He’s got a 1.17 ERA and…. a 0-0 record.
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
We'll see
he’s got great speed, kind of a funky delivery, and in AAA, knows the strikezone well. That bodes well, but will those things translate to being successful against Major League hitters?
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::Having nightmares
of Mike Gosling::
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
by DbacksSkins on Apr 29, 2008 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions
And Chamberlain
Only had 18 pro games and just 15 starts before getting the call. Seems to have worked out pretty well so far…
by Jim McLennan on Apr 29, 2008 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions
What's up with Reynolds?
He’s killing one of my fantasy teams.
I’m not trying to stir things up. I’m worried and need to let someone go when Soriano comes off the DL.
Phear T.S.'s Crawdaddies...
Reynolds will turn the ship around
but I doubt he’d be a great fantasy guy. Too much up and down throughout the year.
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Probably, but probably not until he goes on another home run run
though you might be able to sell them on his potential.
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I think that's your answer, then ;-)
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Max! Ed roams...
80’s nostalgia there…
by Jim McLennan on Apr 29, 2008 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
First big league strike.
GO MAX!!
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
First big league K.
Won’t be the last, that’s for damned sure….
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
Sarcasm?
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
by DbacksSkins on Apr 29, 2008 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Hah.
Okay then.
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
by DbacksSkins on Apr 29, 2008 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Come on people. Malibu PD. Mad Max. Hellllllllo?
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Geez, we'll dog anything in these chats but THAT'S off limits?
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Okay Max
you have big shoes to step into. The pitchers in Arizona know how to hit. Do you think you can live up to that?
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Answer: no. Not right away.
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First major league groundout.
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
The thing that worries me
about Scherzer as a starter is his durability. Even when he’s wielding the hammer of Thor down in AAA, he’s going less than six innings a start.
Combine that with his need for an innings cap this year, I see no problem with using him as a part-time AAA starter/MLB reliever so that he’ll be able to help us should we get to October.
That’s why I don’t think this is as inefficient of a baseball decision as others do.
Was he being pulled out because of a pitch cap
or genuine fatigue? Is there any word on that?
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I haven't found the numbers,
but they’d be stupid to take his innings cap off now. So I don’t think it’s going to matter.
That
and the delivery.
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
by DbacksSkins on Apr 29, 2008 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Baseball Tonight is big on Scherzer
They just predicted that if he makes the rotation, he’ll end the season with double digit wins and 150+ strike outs.
"Hold on a minute, there are three important, brilliant, and complicated reasons why you should listen to me."
And having developed cheap renewable energy
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Does anyone know where this guy was ranked as a propect?
I’m assuming at least top 5( I’m including hitters as well).
Brandon Webb, do I need to say more?
Old Man Tejeda up
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Mad Max....
layin’ down the law….
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
Oh man, Mad Max strikes out two in an inning, looking good!
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That'll be the real test
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Looks a little sunburnt.
The boys in Sedona Red slugged it out with a pretty pesky poltergeist, then stayed on to dance the night away with some of the lovely ladies who witnessed the disturbance.
After the ball leaves his hand
I can’t see it. Traveling too fast.
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
by DbacksSkins on Apr 29, 2008 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions
The most exciting play in baseball, a standup triple!
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O-Dawg!
Nice wheels.
"Hold on a minute, there are three important, brilliant, and complicated reasons why you should listen to me."
6-3
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Reynolds hits it hard
but it doesn’t get very far for a P8
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Upton trying to tie the game with one swing of the bat
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That’d be difficult.
"Hold on a minute, there are three important, brilliant, and complicated reasons why you should listen to me."
Hence why he shouldn't do it
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Well,
one run back, although I was hoping for a lot more.
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
And that inning is in the books, though the Diamondbacks get one run back
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Mmm...Jack in the Box
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Mmmm.....
What about Jack and Max?
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
by DbacksSkins on Apr 29, 2008 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh snap, that was a ridic K
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God it's not fair
Baseball season, when everything becomes right in the world.
by seton hall snake pit on Apr 29, 2008 11:08 PM EDT reply actions
It's only rock and roll
but I like it.
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Nice
Scherzer is looking good.
"Hold on a minute, there are three important, brilliant, and complicated reasons why you should listen to me."
Oh poor Carlos
he fouled that one up into his cash and prizes.
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his mommy daddy button?
Baseball season, when everything becomes right in the world.
by seton hall snake pit on Apr 29, 2008 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Failed the test
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by DbacksSkins on Apr 29, 2008 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions
O-dawg makes that out 'cos he doesn't own a map.
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Poor Greg Maddux
Is he ever going to get his 350th win?
"Hold on a minute, there are three important, brilliant, and complicated reasons why you should listen to me."
Carlos Lee: "I refuse to be struck out."
“I wanna popout.”
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
And Mad Max dominates that inning with a little help from his friends
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And, yeah.
Mad Max is DEFINITELY his nickname.
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
by DbacksSkins on Apr 29, 2008 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions
There's no going back
AND REMEMBER NOT TO DRINK AND DRIVE, MAD MAX
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BUT IF YOU DO, CALL PHILLIPS AND ASSC.
The boys in Sedona Red slugged it out with a pretty pesky poltergeist, then stayed on to dance the night away with some of the lovely ladies who witnessed the disturbance.
BUT MOSTLY JUST GET STRIKEOUTS.
And fight bad guys. And find some gasoline.
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
by DbacksSkins on Apr 29, 2008 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
And figure out what women want.
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Remember when the finding gasoline
part was funny and “well that isn’t going to happen for a while”?
I have been colonized.
Aww, c'mon!!
Didn’t need to bring reality back into our conversation. :-(
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
by DbacksSkins on Apr 29, 2008 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Now
where the hell did she go…. oh! A penny!
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
by DbacksSkins on Apr 29, 2008 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Turnabar, is that you?
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Well yeah, I was just joking
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Shuddup, Turambar!!
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
by DbacksSkins on Apr 29, 2008 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Mustang Sally is the first out
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Snyderman goes for a walk
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Too hard, Max.
Cassel gets Snyderman at 2nd.
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
There goes the lead runner
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Come on CY!
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Howzabout
a patented CY home run, so Scherzer won’t have to run?
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
No, there's someone on base so it can't happen
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It's a new year.
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
by DbacksSkins on Apr 29, 2008 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, not over yet
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CY walks
The boys in Sedona Red slugged it out with a pretty pesky poltergeist, then stayed on to dance the night away with some of the lovely ladies who witnessed the disturbance.
Two walks
How ‘bout some RBIs, Drew?
"Hold on a minute, there are three important, brilliant, and complicated reasons why you should listen to me."
I won't argue with a walk.
Let’s just get a knock and score another run.
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
DROOO!!
Baseball season, when everything becomes right in the world.
by seton hall snake pit on Apr 29, 2008 11:22 PM EDT reply actions
Let's get some
RUUUUUNS!!!
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
Coop better not be afraid of taking Cassel out...
okay, good. It sucks he can’t get the win.
Phear T.S.'s Crawdaddies...
Agreed,
although a W for the team is better than leaving him in to possibly get an L.
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
by DbacksSkins on Apr 29, 2008 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Someone explain the “CAR!!!” thing to me.
by Philip from LA on Apr 29, 2008 11:24 PM EDT reply actions
You know when you were a kid and you'ld play ball in the street?
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Well, Grace is about to explain.
The boys in Sedona Red slugged it out with a pretty pesky poltergeist, then stayed on to dance the night away with some of the lovely ladies who witnessed the disturbance.
Catches Against Runs?
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
by DbacksSkins on Apr 29, 2008 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Community added runs
- the percentage of a pitcher’s earned runs that can be accounted for by jinxing on internet bulletin boards.
by britdback on Apr 29, 2008 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
It’s a meaningless stat until they can blame it on individual posters.
"Hold on a minute, there are three important, brilliant, and complicated reasons why you should listen to me."
We need to keep track of jinx differential.
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by DbacksSkins on Apr 29, 2008 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Exactly.
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
by DbacksSkins on Apr 29, 2008 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions
and we have some possibilities, don't we?
It's like living with a six-year old.
by 4 Corners Fan on Apr 29, 2008 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions
+5
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by DbacksSkins on Apr 29, 2008 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions
When you’d play ball in the street and a car would come along, everybody would yell, “Car” and theoretically you’d all get out of the way. So when they have a break in the action (pitching change, etc.) they hold up the “CAR” signs.
Though I like the other explanations better.
It's like living with a six-year old.
by 4 Corners Fan on Apr 29, 2008 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Lost Cubs fan
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Cubs fans are so smart.
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by DbacksSkins on Apr 29, 2008 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions
YEAH!!! WRIGLEY SOUTH!!!
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There's a difference between being slow
and being a Cubs fan. Retarded people don’t have a choice. Cubs fans do.
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
by DbacksSkins on Apr 29, 2008 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Crap, leave 2 men on base
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A-Rod to the 15 day DL
The Yankees seem to have caught the injury bug.
"Hold on a minute, there are three important, brilliant, and complicated reasons why you should listen to me."
You have
Reynolds backing up ARod at 3rd?
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
by DbacksSkins on Apr 29, 2008 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I picked up Reynolds went A Rod hurt himself...
and he’s been in the lineup for the most part since.
Phear T.S.'s Crawdaddies...
That's
what we call “depth”, my friend.
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
by DbacksSkins on Apr 29, 2008 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Errr, yeah.....
now THAT is rough.
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
by DbacksSkins on Apr 29, 2008 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I forgot Posada...
I had to cut him. I had too many DLers.
In an 8 team league, I’m starting Guzman at Short. Times are tough.
Phear T.S.'s Crawdaddies...
You haven't tried
picking up someone off the waiver wire?
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
by DbacksSkins on Apr 29, 2008 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions
He was the waiver wire pickup...
I needed someone, and I settled for his average. When I got him, he was on a roll. Plus, I have so many injured guys, it’s hard to pick up guys without dropping someone I want to keep.
Phear T.S.'s Crawdaddies...
Another Mad Max K.
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Gas.
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Mad Max is a redneck.
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Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayuuum.
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Jebus Christ......
Comment bot: Mad Max K.
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I’ll get the backup CommentBot booting up in the bullpen. Don’t want to wear out the main ‘Bot this early in the season.
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by kishi on Apr 29, 2008 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
P7
NOW LETZ GET SOME RUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUNZ!!!
/Def Sutton
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by soco on Apr 29, 2008 11:34 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
That's the first time I've ever seen you refer to him
without “-its-Gon”
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by DbacksSkins on Apr 29, 2008 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions
By the way,
Jim wants us to start using the recommend feature. (See the Gameday blurb)
So, I think everyone should go find a random comment and recommend it now. Just for practice.
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by DbacksSkins on Apr 29, 2008 11:35 PM EDT reply actions 6 recs
Wait, do recc Dbacksskins' comment, or your own?
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I requested it.
For you and me, baby. ;-)
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
by DbacksSkins on Apr 29, 2008 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions
You know it. :-P
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
by DbacksSkins on Apr 29, 2008 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Sweet!
I got the big green asterisk!!
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
by DbacksSkins on Apr 29, 2008 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions
O-Dawg draws a walk
amazingly there’s still a baseball game on.
The boys in Sedona Red slugged it out with a pretty pesky poltergeist, then stayed on to dance the night away with some of the lovely ladies who witnessed the disturbance.
Let's see...
Scherzer has faced ten batters, retired them all and fanned six.
I think we know who’ll be starting on Monday.
EdGon?
The boys in Sedona Red slugged it out with a pretty pesky poltergeist, then stayed on to dance the night away with some of the lovely ladies who witnessed the disturbance.
DbacksSkins?
"Hold on a minute, there are three important, brilliant, and complicated reasons why you should listen to me."
Good God, I hope not.
My arm’s gonna be sore enough from tonight.
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
by DbacksSkins on Apr 29, 2008 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Hmmm....
I just realized that could be interpreted in any number of foul ways in which it was not intended…
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
by DbacksSkins on Apr 29, 2008 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I think we're all thinking only one way
The boys in Sedona Red slugged it out with a pretty pesky poltergeist, then stayed on to dance the night away with some of the lovely ladies who witnessed the disturbance.
Yeah, I got that impression.
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
by DbacksSkins on Apr 29, 2008 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Penelope was thinking that our boys could use a little mojo.
http://www.wallpaperbase.com/wallpapers/celebs/penelopecruz/penelope_cruz_11.jpg
Let me help you....

"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
by DbacksSkins on Apr 29, 2008 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually...
Links are preferred. Pics do seem to make the thread run sluggish – the bigger the, er, slugger. Not a prob, since we’re heading towards an overflow thread here, but they’re generally best avoided.
by Jim McLennan on Apr 29, 2008 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes sir
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
by DbacksSkins on Apr 29, 2008 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow...
The Stros plan to use most of their bullpen tonight eh?
by singaporedbacksfan on Apr 29, 2008 11:40 PM EDT reply actions
That the Astros don't know how to use a bullpen?
The boys in Sedona Red slugged it out with a pretty pesky poltergeist, then stayed on to dance the night away with some of the lovely ladies who witnessed the disturbance.
They should compare notes with the Padres broadcasters
You’re apparently supposed to hit our batters to send a message.
"Hold on a minute, there are three important, brilliant, and complicated reasons why you should listen to me."
But only
when they swing.
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
by DbacksSkins on Apr 29, 2008 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes
It's like living with a six-year old.
by 4 Corners Fan on Apr 29, 2008 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Jim, are you around to make a new one?
I have a question about that btw…
by snakecharmer on Apr 29, 2008 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions
former Dback
Oscar Villareal
Baseball season, when everything becomes right in the world.
by seton hall snake pit on Apr 29, 2008 11:41 PM EDT reply actions
Come on, CoJack!
"Hold on a minute, there are three important, brilliant, and complicated reasons why you should listen to me."
CoJack wastes the free baserunner with a double play
The boys in Sedona Red slugged it out with a pretty pesky poltergeist, then stayed on to dance the night away with some of the lovely ladies who witnessed the disturbance.
It's true though, it wasn't butter.
The boys in Sedona Red slugged it out with a pretty pesky poltergeist, then stayed on to dance the night away with some of the lovely ladies who witnessed the disturbance.
Geoff Blum
Big league DP there.
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
For some reason...
...I coulda sworn that this is the first I’ve seen Mark tonight.
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
But
then, how do I remember that EdGon started?
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
by DbacksSkins on Apr 29, 2008 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Surprise! Mark Reynolds shows patience and walks.
Just kidding, he struck out.
The boys in Sedona Red slugged it out with a pretty pesky poltergeist, then stayed on to dance the night away with some of the lovely ladies who witnessed the disturbance.
That's not funny.
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
by DbacksSkins on Apr 29, 2008 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions
It's a little funny
The boys in Sedona Red slugged it out with a pretty pesky poltergeist, then stayed on to dance the night away with some of the lovely ladies who witnessed the disturbance.
Alright, maybe a little.
But he has been MUCH better this year than last year.
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
by DbacksSkins on Apr 29, 2008 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Definetly, but still can be painful to watch
The boys in Sedona Red slugged it out with a pretty pesky poltergeist, then stayed on to dance the night away with some of the lovely ladies who witnessed the disturbance.
You can't bunt on Mad Max!
Do you know who he is?
The boys in Sedona Red slugged it out with a pretty pesky poltergeist, then stayed on to dance the night away with some of the lovely ladies who witnessed the disturbance.
Obviously not
We better draft a memo so they do.
"Hold on a minute, there are three important, brilliant, and complicated reasons why you should listen to me."
KazMat
tries the Ben Davis route.
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
Another K for Mad Max
The boys in Sedona Red slugged it out with a pretty pesky poltergeist, then stayed on to dance the night away with some of the lovely ladies who witnessed the disturbance.
Comment Bot
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
by DbacksSkins on Apr 29, 2008 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not a comment bot
I’m a real boy!
The boys in Sedona Red slugged it out with a pretty pesky poltergeist, then stayed on to dance the night away with some of the lovely ladies who witnessed the disturbance.
by soco on Apr 29, 2008 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Mad Max is ballin'
The boys in Sedona Red slugged it out with a pretty pesky poltergeist, then stayed on to dance the night away with some of the lovely ladies who witnessed the disturbance.
I'll bet
the Astros would give us a great bullpen arm and a reserve infielder for him.
Wait…...
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
by DbacksSkins on Apr 29, 2008 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Sell him on
his potential?
The boys in Sedona Red slugged it out with a pretty pesky poltergeist, then stayed on to dance the night away with some of the lovely ladies who witnessed the disturbance.
CoJack:
Defensive wizard.
"Juan Cruz has Freddy Krueger stuff. Welcome to Elm Street." -- Mark Grace
Sell him on
his potential?The boys in Sedona Red slugged it out with a pretty pesky poltergeist, then stayed on to dance the night away with some of the lovely ladies who witnessed the disturbance.
by soco on Apr 29, 2008 8:51 PM MST up actions 0 recs
I guess? Is that what everyone has been trying to sell him to me on the last few years?

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