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Gameday Thread, #2: 4/2 vs. Reds.

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Arizona @ Cincinnati


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Dan Haren
RHP, 0-0, 0.00

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Bronson Arroyo
RHP, 0-0, 0.00

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After a somewhat unwarranted and unnecessary day off, we return to action, hoping to continue after the winning start to the season. There might not be quite the heady air of excitement as for Opening Day, but there's still a good degree of anticipation, as we will get to see Dan Haren make his Diamondbacks debut. He will have the advantage of unfamiliarity over the Reds, thanks to his move from the AL: Corey Patterson [3-for-8] has the most experience against Haren.

In contrast, three D-backs [Hudson, Byrnes and Burke] have seen Arroyo ten or more times, led by O-Dawg's 31 PA's, though they haven't had much success. Conor Jackson [4-for-7 with two walks] has the best line, and the roster as a whole hits only at a .243 clip. We'll certainly be hoping for a bit more output than the five hits managed during all of Monday's game, though if we hit three homers every day, I won't be complaining much.

The good news is, the weather forecast is looking much better for today's game, with only a 10% chance of precipitation. First pitch is at 4:10 pm, AZ time, which is one of those awkward starts. I'll be at work for the first hour and twenty, then heading to The Sets, but I hope to be there in time to throw a couple of comments into the Gameday Thread. I'm also testing the 'auto post' facility on the new platform, that lets me schedule a thread for publication at a future time. This should appear automatically at 2pm Arizona time; if it doesn't show up, please let me know...

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If it doesn't show up...

Then how would we know we're supposed contact you? :)

And once you answer me that, then please let me know about that whole tree falling in the forest with no sound thing. I've always wanted to know.

I'm pretty psyched about this game. It'll be good to see Haren's splitter in action, but what I'm really looking for in this game is a high OBP. Let's get this started already!

by bcloirao on Apr 2, 2008 5:13 PM EDT   0 recs

It reminds me of an old family saying...

"If I get there first, I'll make a mark. If you get there first, erase it."

"Look what it's done for us. People still don't recognize us but..." *snaps fingers*
"We're contenders now!"

by kishi on Apr 2, 2008 6:05 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

LOL

Jim, just writing to let you know that this thread really didn't show up ;) --- It's just a figment of your imagination.

Go DBACKS! Let's start 2-0!

by dstorm on Apr 2, 2008 6:23 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Sure is great to have Haren as our number two, huh? Wow, this is really where you see the difference... Webb clearly has an edge over Harang, but Haren over Arroyo is huge.

"There are only two seasons: winter and baseball"
-- Bill Veeck

by njjohn on Apr 2, 2008 5:21 PM EDT   0 recs

totally agreed...

... and that puts the pressure on our offense, we need to start getting on base... and bringing in the runs...

- The Question is: What is manah-manah?
- The Question is: Who cares!?

by Muu on Apr 2, 2008 5:29 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

RJ #3

It makes me really excited to think that Randy could be matching up with the #3 pitchers.

I'm really excited about him this season, and I think his quest for 300 is going to be one of the most intriguing sub-plots for me.

While I feel like I could be setting myself up for disappointment, I can't help it. I really like the guy.

by bcloirao on Apr 2, 2008 5:38 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

300 W

if he's able to make 24-26 starts maybe we have a shot \o/

- The Question is: What is manah-manah?
- The Question is: Who cares!?

by Muu on Apr 2, 2008 5:51 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Well, that didn't take long

From the recap on today's Brewers-Cubs game, "Fans at Wrigley Field started to boo the Cubs in the sixth when Milwaukee scored without a hit thanks to two walks, three stolen bases and a Soto’s error."

Cubs are 0-2 now. The second hundred years starts here...

by Jim McLennan on Apr 2, 2008 6:28 PM EDT   0 recs

Ouch

I think the Cubs were very over-hyped before the season started- sure, they probably will win the NL Central, but I don't see them higher than third or fourth in any other division- and I suspect the fans are going to be very, very unforgiving anytime the Cubs stumble.

"Look what it's done for us. People still don't recognize us but..." *snaps fingers*
"We're contenders now!"

by kishi on Apr 2, 2008 6:39 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I generally don't boo my team

I think silence goes a long way. However, I certainly understand Cubs fans booing a 2 run inning on 2 walks, 3 SBs, and an error...

by Craig from Az on Apr 2, 2008 6:48 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

big fan of the crickets

When your team is playing terribly and then turn around and do something nothing is louder than dead silence. Imagine the home team hitting a HR and touching home to a silent stadium, talk about embarrassing.

Baseball season, when everything becomes right in the world.

by seton hall snake pit on Apr 2, 2008 6:51 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Today's lineup

C. Young cf
O. Hudson 2b
E. Byrnes lf
C. Jackson 1b
C. Snyder c
M. Reynolds 3b
S. Drew ss
J. Upton rf
D. Haren p

Hang on...isn't that the same as Monday's? WHERE IS BOB MELVIN AND WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH HIM? :-)

by Jim McLennan on Apr 2, 2008 6:54 PM EDT   0 recs

new strategy

turns out Jarrod Parker will be starting tonight to give Haren time to develop a knuckleball. Interesting move on his part.

Baseball season, when everything becomes right in the world.

by seton hall snake pit on Apr 2, 2008 6:57 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I can't wait to see Haren. I've never seen him pitch before, so it's almost like getting to see a new rookie phenom. It's interesting that I've read predictions for Haren that range from "he'll be the staff ace - even better than Webb" to "overrated, he'll be a .500 pitcher in Arizona".

by Craig from Az on Apr 2, 2008 6:57 PM EDT   0 recs

little note on Haren

he has won 42% of all of his career starts with Oakland. In comparison Webb has won 40% of all of his starts.

Baseball season, when everything becomes right in the world.

by seton hall snake pit on Apr 2, 2008 7:05 PM EDT   0 recs

so with both of them on our team, we should win 82% or our games, right ;-)

by Craig from Az on Apr 2, 2008 7:07 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

uhhhh

132 wins? OF COURSE! makes sense to me as well.

Baseball season, when everything becomes right in the world.

by seton hall snake pit on Apr 2, 2008 7:09 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

you should mention that Webb had 16 losses despite a 3+ ERA in 2004.... what would give him those 2%...

- The Question is: What is manah-manah?
- The Question is: Who cares!?

by Muu on Apr 2, 2008 7:10 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

long time no see Brenemen (dunno how to spell it)

- The Question is: What is manah-manah?
- The Question is: Who cares!?

by Muu on Apr 2, 2008 7:07 PM EDT   0 recs

Almost another lead-off tater for CY

by Craig from Az on Apr 2, 2008 7:11 PM EDT   0 recs

close enough

I'll take it

Baseball season, when everything becomes right in the world.

by seton hall snake pit on Apr 2, 2008 7:11 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

hell yeah

- The Question is: What is manah-manah?
- The Question is: Who cares!?

by Muu on Apr 2, 2008 7:12 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I hate that sacrifice bunt

by Craig from Az on Apr 2, 2008 7:12 PM EDT   0 recs

nice done Byrnes

- The Question is: What is manah-manah?
- The Question is: Who cares!?

by Muu on Apr 2, 2008 7:13 PM EDT   0 recs

YOU CAN PUT IT ON THE BOOOAAAARRRRDDDDDD!!!!!

Baseball season, when everything becomes right in the world.

by seton hall snake pit on Apr 2, 2008 7:14 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Nice start. Now we can see what Haren's got

by Craig from Az on Apr 2, 2008 7:14 PM EDT   0 recs

nicely*

- The Question is: What is manah-manah?
- The Question is: Who cares!?

by Muu on Apr 2, 2008 7:14 PM EDT   0 recs

Here goes....

Once more unto the breach, my friends! Once more!

I'll be listening to the game but will be in the lab for another 90 min or so and will be unable to comment. Pretend I'm here, posting 4x every second.

I was tied to the chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do.

by DbacksSkins on Apr 2, 2008 7:14 PM EDT   0 recs

lol, this inn was fast

- The Question is: What is manah-manah?
- The Question is: Who cares!?

by Muu on Apr 2, 2008 7:15 PM EDT   0 recs

Toronto/Yankees on ESPN2. Toronto is already up 1-0. Does anybody/everybody else on this site hate the Yankees also?

by Craig from Az on Apr 2, 2008 7:15 PM EDT   0 recs

uhh yeah!

Baseball season, when everything becomes right in the world.

by seton hall snake pit on Apr 2, 2008 7:16 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

\o/

- The Question is: What is manah-manah?
- The Question is: Who cares!?

by Muu on Apr 2, 2008 7:18 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Um...

Does everybody else on this site hate the Yankees also?

I've heard the pope is Catholic as well....

I was tied to the chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do.

by DbacksSkins on Apr 2, 2008 7:18 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Absolutely

I'm already tired of them- thanks, ESPN, for trying to show me two of the three games of the opening series for the Yankees. We all care.

"Look what it's done for us. People still don't recognize us but..." *snaps fingers*
"We're contenders now!"

by kishi on Apr 2, 2008 7:26 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Just popping in

Delayed my afternoon break until after first pitch. So I've got 15 minutes here! Will be keen to see how Haren does...

by Jim McLennan on Apr 2, 2008 7:16 PM EDT   0 recs

Wicked slider! Looks like it goes down more than the Big Unit's.

by Craig from Az on Apr 2, 2008 7:17 PM EDT   0 recs

one away

- The Question is: What is manah-manah?
- The Question is: Who cares!?

by Muu on Apr 2, 2008 7:17 PM EDT   0 recs

I could get used to this.

Scoring a run in the top of the first every time is very helpful.

by Azreous on Apr 2, 2008 7:17 PM EDT   0 recs

How do you take that pitch to right field?

by Craig from Az on Apr 2, 2008 7:18 PM EDT   0 recs

uh oh

- The Question is: What is manah-manah?
- The Question is: Who cares!?

by Muu on Apr 2, 2008 7:19 PM EDT   0 recs

So.

When do we fire up CommentBot for the regularly occuring double plays? Poor robot has been rusting for six months.

by Azreous on Apr 2, 2008 7:19 PM EDT   0 recs

Did we turn any DPs behind Webby yesterday?

by Craig from Az on Apr 2, 2008 7:21 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Yep.

I remember one off the top of my head. Dunno if there were more than that.

by Azreous on Apr 2, 2008 7:23 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Whoops

We should have been giving CommentBot a few practice games during spring training, too.

"Look what it's done for us. People still don't recognize us but..." *snaps fingers*
"We're contenders now!"

by kishi on Apr 2, 2008 7:26 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Drew + Wolf

When he was 1st brough up to the bigs I said that this guy is a real wolf ( Esops sp? fable ) not a pretender.

by foulpole on Apr 2, 2008 7:28 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Drew = Wolf

by foulpole on Apr 2, 2008 7:29 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

you were right his first year, wrong last year. This is a big year for Drew

by Craig from Az on Apr 2, 2008 7:29 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

He played solid D at ss and showed us the real Wolf at the plate the last part of the regular season and in the playoffs.

I feel pretty good about him.

by foulpole on Apr 2, 2008 7:33 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

yeahhhh double playyy

- The Question is: What is manah-manah?
- The Question is: Who cares!?

by Muu on Apr 2, 2008 7:19 PM EDT   0 recs

I'm getting spoiled by the O-Dawg. I wathed Frank White play a beautiful second base for years in KC. O-Dawg has more range than White, although I would speculate Dawg is not quite as consistent on the routine play...

by Craig from Az on Apr 2, 2008 7:20 PM EDT   0 recs

V quick

Arroyo through the first on eight pitches, Haren goes one better on seven!

by Jim McLennan on Apr 2, 2008 7:20 PM EDT   0 recs

Not to mention

a run better as well.

I was tied to the chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do.

by DbacksSkins on Apr 2, 2008 7:22 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

HAHA

Pedro Martinez is on the DL again.

Oh jebus, I really hope I didn't just jinx us....

I was tied to the chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do.

by DbacksSkins on Apr 2, 2008 7:20 PM EDT   0 recs

15-day DL? =[ poor Pedro... I like him...

- The Question is: What is manah-manah?
- The Question is: Who cares!?

by Muu on Apr 2, 2008 7:21 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

No love for the Mets, but I have a soft spot for Pedro. When he was younger, he may have been the best pitcher I ever saw pitch.

by Craig from Az on Apr 2, 2008 7:22 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

You gotta love that 1st inning 1-0 and a 4-6-3 double play for our squad.

by foulpole on Apr 2, 2008 7:22 PM EDT   0 recs

Atta boy Stephen.

2-0. Solo shot.

by Azreous on Apr 2, 2008 7:23 PM EDT   0 recs

DREEEEEWWWWWW!!!!!!

Baseball season, when everything becomes right in the world.

by seton hall snake pit on Apr 2, 2008 7:24 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

If Steven Drew can hit this year, we'll be in great shape

by Craig from Az on Apr 2, 2008 7:24 PM EDT   0 recs

Wolf with the BOMB!!!

2-0!

Sweet!

by foulpole on Apr 2, 2008 7:24 PM EDT   0 recs

I'll show my ignorance - Wolf?

by Craig from Az on Apr 2, 2008 7:25 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I concur

wolf?

Baseball season, when everything becomes right in the world.

by seton hall snake pit on Apr 2, 2008 7:25 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

DROOOOOOOOO!

Good stuff. Though what IS is with all the solo shots?

by Jim McLennan on Apr 2, 2008 7:24 PM EDT   0 recs

DRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

\O/

- The Question is: What is manah-manah?
- The Question is: Who cares!?

by Muu on Apr 2, 2008 7:25 PM EDT   0 recs

Wow....

So much for having to start calling him Stephen Poo again.

I was tied to the chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do.

by DbacksSkins on Apr 2, 2008 7:25 PM EDT   0 recs

You know what would be cool?

Baserunners for home runs.

by Azreous on Apr 2, 2008 7:27 PM EDT   0 recs

Chris Young concurs.

"Look what it's done for us. People still don't recognize us but..." *snaps fingers*
"We're contenders now!"

by kishi on Apr 2, 2008 7:27 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Greedy ;-)

by Craig from Az on Apr 2, 2008 7:27 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

At this pace

this game will be over in a bit over 2 hrs.

Baseball season, when everything becomes right in the world.

by seton hall snake pit on Apr 2, 2008 7:28 PM EDT   0 recs

Don't worry, we have Doug Davis to bring that average up to, oh, 4.5 hours.

by Craig from Az on Apr 2, 2008 7:28 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

And under 100 pitches per side.

"Look what it's done for us. People still don't recognize us but..." *snaps fingers*
"We're contenders now!"

by kishi on Apr 2, 2008 7:28 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Two down.

Haren blows a fastball by Dunn. Looking very good so far.

by Azreous on Apr 2, 2008 7:30 PM EDT   0 recs

Love that fastball that rides in on the righties!

by Craig from Az on Apr 2, 2008 7:31 PM EDT   0 recs

Now then.

Let's watch the Dan Haren experiment at the plate.

by Azreous on Apr 2, 2008 7:31 PM EDT   0 recs

Overbay is at the plate for Toronto. Anybody remember who we got for Overbay?

by Craig from Az on Apr 2, 2008 7:32 PM EDT   0 recs

bag of chips

and a handshake?

Baseball season, when everything becomes right in the world.

by seton hall snake pit on Apr 2, 2008 7:33 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I think you're right. He's been pretty good for Toronto

by Craig from Az on Apr 2, 2008 7:33 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

er... Sexson? =[

- The Question is: What is manah-manah?
- The Question is: Who cares!?

by Muu on Apr 2, 2008 7:34 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I think we would have been happier with the milkshake.

"Look what it's done for us. People still don't recognize us but..." *snaps fingers*
"We're contenders now!"

by kishi on Apr 2, 2008 7:35 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Um

Handshake.

I think I need to go get some dinner now, hunger is obviously affecting my brain in strange ways.

"Look what it's done for us. People still don't recognize us but..." *snaps fingers*
"We're contenders now!"

by kishi on Apr 2, 2008 7:35 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Ugh

It wasn't Sexson, was it?

"Look what it's done for us. People still don't recognize us but..." *snaps fingers*
"We're contenders now!"

by kishi on Apr 2, 2008 7:33 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Yep.

Lost him and Capuano and other useful things in that debacle.

by Azreous on Apr 2, 2008 7:34 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Boy, that was a really bad idea, wasn't it? I'm sure glad we couldn't sign him to a long term contract

by Craig from Az on Apr 2, 2008 7:34 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

As far as I can tell, Mariners fans wish we had.

"Look what it's done for us. People still don't recognize us but..." *snaps fingers*
"We're contenders now!"

by kishi on Apr 2, 2008 7:35 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Yuck

Traded by the Arizona Diamondbacks with Chris Capuano, Craig Counsell, Chad Moeller, Jorge de la Rosa, and Junior Spivey to the Milwaukee Brewers for a player to be named later, Richie Sexson, and Shane Nance. The Milwaukee Brewers sent Noochie Varner (minors) (December 15, 2003) to the Arizona Diamondbacks to complete the trade.

by Jim McLennan on Apr 2, 2008 7:34 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs