Gameday Thread, #17, 4/19 vs. Padres
San Diego Padres at Arizona Diamondbacks, Apr 19, 2008 8:10 PM EDT
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Not much to say, as I am about to head off my Mrs. SnakePit's sister for a post-birthday dinner. The delayed Evil Chris Young, who sucked last time out, takes on Edgar Gonzalez, who also sucked last time out, but is at least now missing the offending tooth. Unless Evil Chris Young's count of elbows stops at one, advantage to us there, it would seem. We'll see how this goes: unlikely I'll be commenting, for dinner-related reasons [what IS is with this 5:10pm start, anyway?], but I'll be back for the wrap-up either tonight or tomorrow morning.
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First
Just kidding.
I’m bored/sleepy, can’t wait for the game to start. Any ideas on how to kill 40 minutes? :)
I need the DBacks to pick me up after that piece of …. of a basketball game :(
Who let’s Tim Duncan hit a three? Honestly?!
by Captain D Bag on Apr 19, 2008 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Ugh
Still fat fingers and the new posting system …
The best part was hearing the commentators complain about Manu flopping. Sigh. So true.
by Captain D Bag on Apr 19, 2008 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions
If you’re up 3 and they have possession, you have to foul. YOU HAVE TO FOUL!
My 90 year old grandmother knows that, but we have 2 chances to do it, and we let them hit threes both times. I could literally cry right now.
Keys to the Game ...
1) Patience at the Plate. Bum Elbow + Shaky Bullpen = Long night for Padres staff.
2) Run. Bard can’t throw anyone out. Stealing and base running will be keys.
3) Put the ball in play. Preferably in the Center Field gaps that Edmonds has a hard time cutting off.
4) 6 strong innings from EdGon, handed over to our top end Bull Pen.
5) CoJack had a Cycle last night. He even had more bases than the cycle calls for. It’s a cycle to me :).
If last night is anything to go by, Edmonds is cooked as a CF… although you might be able to squeeze another couple of years out of him in one of the corner spots, I guess.
After watching Edmonds on those triples by CoJack, I think he needs a Segway out in center.
"It's such a fine line between stupid and clever."
Segway?
Don’t you mean a powered wheelchair?
"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."
I don't know if he's *that* slow
Maybe a golf cart?
"It's such a fine line between stupid and clever."
But
What are soco’s keys to the game?? Still waiting….
"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."
Starting Lineup
C. Young cf .234
E. Byrnes lf .313
O. Hudson 2b .254
C. Jackson 1b .364
M. Reynolds 3b .291
J. Upton rf .377
S. Drew ss .283
C. Snyder c .190
E. Gonzalez p .000
No deviation from last night … is BoMel losing it? :)
Why is our 6th better hitter batting 3rd? :)
by Philip from LA on Apr 19, 2008 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Hmm ... fish tacos ...
B. Giles rf .300
T. Iguchi 2b .232
A. Gonzalez 1b .273
K. Kouzmanoff 3b .297
J. Edmonds cf .217
J. Bard c .292
P. McAnulty lf .214
C. Crabbe ss .100
C. Young p .000
Dodgeballaz lost to the Braves.
Rox are tied with the ‘Stros. Giants won.
Time to beat the Pads and hope the Astros take down the Rox today.
"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."
is the Rox win
I make $3
Baseball season, when everything becomes right in the world.
by seton hall snake pit on Apr 19, 2008 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions
High roller, eh?
Isn’t it usually like $0.17 or something?
"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."
yeah well I got risky tonight
on a triple parlay bet
Baseball season, when everything becomes right in the world.
by seton hall snake pit on Apr 19, 2008 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Eh ...
Petit and Ed Gon switching back and forth in the 5 spot wouldn’t really upset me. I just want Scherzer to stay down until the all start break … I don’t want guys figuring him out before than.
by Captain D Bag on Apr 19, 2008 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Good call, actually.
"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."
What’s Edgar’s career ERA? What has he done to prove that he can be an effective starter in the major leagues?
by Philip from LA on Apr 19, 2008 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions
EdGon's career ERA against the Padres
is 4.08 in five games, just for the record.
"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."
5.91
With 31 starts over 65 Games. Those big reliever outings can kill that number, to be fair.
by Captain D Bag on Apr 19, 2008 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Not to mention
He pitched a bunch in 2004, didn’t he?
"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."
Just so. Not many teams can afford five real starters, but everyone needs a couple of guys who can fill in the fifth spot as necessary, take spot-starts and throw long relief… and do it for peanuts.
Not to bring up the ghost of earlier today, is it a stretch to call EdGon the Shawn Marion of the DBacks?
Hmm?
Care to explain why EdGon=Marion?
"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."
Erm
We should wait for EdGon to choke in the playoffs for a couple of years, and whine about being underappreciated (despite being the highest paid player on the team) before we make that comparison.
Merely in the versatility sense… not the chemistry-killing locker-room cancer sense.
God today sucked. I’m still pissed.
Ok Shawn ...
You can either have a chance at a world title with Nash in the desert, or go to Miami where you can quit in March.
‘Do I get paid the same’
‘Yes’
‘Beienviendo A Miami!’
by Captain D Bag on Apr 19, 2008 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Hell ...
Look at teams that have 5 plus starters, and what happens to them … White Sox, they all got old fast. Boston, your one of Josh Beckett’s pattended Blisters away from the DL.
by Captain D Bag on Apr 19, 2008 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Edgar
I’ve never felt comfortable when he pitches. The guy just makes me nervous. Of course, tonight hasn’t done anything to change that. He can’t seem to hit Snyder’s mitt. Snyder is really looking irritated, too.
by azshadowwalker on Apr 19, 2008 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m personally OK with not really trying to win every 5th day until DD comes back. Especially with the way we have been hitting recently.
That ..
And Micha has been AMAZING to this point, which I wasn’t expecting. We have three guys that can give us 6 plus solid innings while Randy get’s up to health and our 5th starter just needs to keep us in it.
by Captain D Bag on Apr 19, 2008 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Snydes too,
unfortunately. :-(
"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."
No joke
Fantasy Steal of the Year, I said to myself. Don’t go for a top flight catcher, just get snyder late in the drafts, I said. Two weeks later, he’s been dropped on every team I have …
by Captain D Bag on Apr 19, 2008 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Right as he starts to hit,
naturally.
"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."
Such is the life of a Fantasy Freebaser …
by Captain D Bag on Apr 19, 2008 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions
This kind of thinking really annoys me. You try and win EVERY game. Is it August and are we ahead by 10 games?
by Philip from LA on Apr 19, 2008 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions
No, it's not,
so let’s trade our entire farm system for Noah Lowry, or something….
"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."
I wouldn't get too wound up about it,
but I do second the feeling that you should try to win every time you go out there. Of course, you’re not going to do that, but you should at least have that as your goal.
by azshadowwalker on Apr 19, 2008 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Because, you know,
I’m sure that we’re trying to lose by pitching EdGon…
"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."
Man....
I’ve been anticipating this game all day….
"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."
1 pitch
1 out.
"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."
Strangely
it drives me slightly less crazy when we’re playing a team with a AA offense, like the Pads.
"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."
I got nothin.
You’re right.
"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."
Gameday is reminding me that I can’t wait to be able to watch these games on TV again….
"It's such a fine line between stupid and clever."
Care to elaborate?
"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."
It’s just been very glitchy the past few days it seems.
"It's such a fine line between stupid and clever."
No
I mean, when are you going to be able to watch it again?
"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."
Oh, right
Little over two weeks. We’re moving down to Phoenix the first weekend of May.
"It's such a fine line between stupid and clever."
Must be nice.
Where are you now again?
"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."
That's what I thought....
....isn’t Utah part of the Dbacks’ market?
"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."
Yeah, according to MLB. Not that there’s anyone showing games up here.
"It's such a fine line between stupid and clever."
Hmmm....
Have you thought about writing to the Dbacks and letting them know?
Dunno that it’d do anything, but still.
"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."
Makes sense
Community ties of the secular kind to Utah and all.
by Captain D Bag on Apr 19, 2008 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Why constantly
coming with the “Ed-it’s-Gon”, huh?
"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."
Fox.
He was on the national pregame show today. He always does that on weekends.
"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."
Hahaha
Hellz yeah.
"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."
Eww!
Cranky Old Man! Actually, I haven’t heard him for two seasons since he moved to Saturday games ( I work saturday nights) ... But when we were losing and he did Sunday’s, he was SO CRANKY.
by Captain D Bag on Apr 19, 2008 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions
To be honest,
when we were losing, I was so cranky too…. and I’m 23.
"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."
Gonna give you that ...
The 04 season was a horrible year. I got fired from a decent job, and had to deal with the 111 loss summer …
by Captain D Bag on Apr 19, 2008 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions
2005 was decent.
We outperformed our Pythag, and did WAY better than 2004. Also, 2003 season was the original Season of the Living Baby-Backs. ::Horror music plays::
"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."
Not a fan of Joe Sr.
He’s too “get those damn kids off my lawn!” for me. It just bugs.
by azshadowwalker on Apr 19, 2008 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I like him.
He’s funny, and he’s old-skool.
He’s funnier than Matt Williams.
"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."
I like him- it’s like watching a baseball game with your great-uncle or something.
I read his book a few weeks ago, too, which was fairly entertaining.
"It's such a fine line between stupid and clever."
Yah.
Plus Matt Williams kinda scares me. He seems so humorless that I’m constantly worried that he’s gonna go all roid-rage on Darron.
"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."
Gracie too!
I don’t understand the people who perceive him as this old curmudgeon. He presents a broader perspective, but in no way does it ever venture into “in my days everything was great and all these young punks have no respect and are going to hell.”
Thom Brennaman was a thousand time more “get off my lawn” than Joe Sr.
Whoa....
I can’t recall Gracie EVER saying ANYTHING close to that….
"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."
by DbacksSkins on Apr 19, 2008 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry,
I actually meant Sr. is funnier than Gracie. The body text was about Sr.
And if any more proof was needed about Joe’s awesomeness and open-mindedness he gave a nice little prop to sabremetrics and DIPS theory.
No I understand.
I was agreeing with you that they’re both hella funny.
Somehow, I worded it very poorly, though….
"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."
by DbacksSkins on Apr 19, 2008 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Well
at least you don’t find Joe G a crochety old man.
"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."
by DbacksSkins on Apr 19, 2008 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Upton
prolly coulda caught that, but it’s okay.
"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."
Checked-swing bunt,
eh, Kooz? Nice.
"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."
Beware
the offensive force that is 2008 Jim Edmonds.
"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."
Well....
1-2-3-4-5 inning isn’t bad, if nobody scores.
"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."
Evening all
Lets hope for another good game and win for the D-Backs
On a sad note I don’t know if its been mentioned here but former MLB Catcher for the Red Sox and Mariners John Marzano died this weekend. If anyone ever watched MLB TV programming then you’ll know John as a host from there as well. I loved that guy he really did know his stuff and to die at 45 is a real tragedy :(
Rly?
I hadn’t heard that! What happened?
"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."
Apparently a fall at his home
Suspected heart attack,
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080419&;content_id=2554151&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb
There seems to be the start of some form of condolance page on the Leading Off Blog
http://leadingoff.mlblogs.com/
such a shame :(
Saw it on Yahoo
They had a picture of him Fighting Paul O’Niel from 06.
by Captain D Bag on Apr 19, 2008 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Young walks on four straight
That’s a good start.
"It's such a fine line between stupid and clever."
Walk to slide, as G. Love and Special Sauce would say
by Captain D Bag on Apr 19, 2008 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Chris White Young
(AKA Evil Chris Young) walks Chris Black Young. (AKA Good Chris Young.)
"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."
1st inning conferences
between pitcher and catcher are always good…unless its YOUR pitcher and catcher.
“can you throw him out?”
“Nope”
“Well … Crap”
by Captain D Bag on Apr 19, 2008 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Weirdest wild pitch...
...EVER.
"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."
Byrnes trying to make it 2-0
on THAT swing…
Not that I’m complaining, on 3-1.
"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."
I love that
“With Eric Byrnes batting, wild pitch by Chris Young, Chris Young to second.”
"It's such a fine line between stupid and clever."
Awesome!
"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."
That sign is AWESOME....
“Our Chris Young Is Better Than Yours…..”
"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."
You can’t make contact with the ball when you’re out of the batters box.
I think that it was pretty strange that we were bunting there. Young is pretty wild right now. I wouldn’t have been bunting.
I think O-Dawg did it on his own.
He’s been scuffling lately, after all
"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."
Do NOT let him wriggle out of THIS one...
WE’RE the snakes here…. only WE can do that.
"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."
I would LOVE to see another Wild Pitch
"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."
C'mon Mark!
We need to see 2008 Mark here, not 2007 Mark….
"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."
Son of a....
Well, that was a waste.
"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."
True.
Positive thoughts, people.
"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."
Curses
Let’s send them down, and try again next inning.
"It's such a fine line between stupid and clever."
Wait a second --
Lacee Collins? Really?
"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."
I didn't know she left KVOA
"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."
Some half-assed work on Google tells me she left KVOA at the end of March.
"It's such a fine line between stupid and clever."
Me too.
She was the weekend sports anchor for KVOA down here.
I liked her mostly because any woman who can talk sports is hott.
Used to live in an apt complex with a female sportswriter for the Tucson Citizen, too.
"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."
You;d love my family, then.
It's like living with a six-year old.
by 4 Corners Fan on Apr 19, 2008 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, who won it for CF last year?
"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."
Ah.
So see, the way the Gold Glove works, it’s like an inherited title.
When Aaron Rowand either dies or is retired, then somebody else will win it.
But not until then.
It’s a fairly meritorious award.
"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."
/sarcasm
"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."
Doesn't matter HOW fat and lazy he is this year,
doesn’t matter HOW many balls bounce over his head or around him, he won’t NOT get it until he retires.
"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."
Last Year's Winners at Outfield
- Aaron Rowand – Philadelphia Phillies * Andruw Jones – Atlanta Braves * Carlos Beltrán – New York Mets * Jeff Francoeur – Atlanta Braves
Rowand and Francoeur tied for third, so they were both awarded it.
"It's such a fine line between stupid and clever."
Unfortunatly ...
Top Gold Glove canidates need to injury themselves making plays.
by Captain D Bag on Apr 19, 2008 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I sure as hell HOPE so,
since we’re gonna be on the hook for a long time.
"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."
The funny thing is,
the Dbacks originally wanted Brian Anderson, but the ChiSox didn’t wanna give him up.
Um….. so, basically, that part of the trade was just as much luck as anything else, since Anderson really sucks in the majors.
"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."
Whoa
That guy with the kid on his lap in the Dbacks garb looks like Bruce Bochy
"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."
OUR PITCHERS ROCK!!!
SCREW YOU, FOULPOLE, AND YOUR “ED-IT’S-GON” NICKNAME!!
Heh….. unless you wanna apply that nickname to his hitting, now!!
"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."
I actually was afriad that was a ground rule double
and we wouldn’t score….
"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."
He's not really dead
He just wanted an excuse to have someone throw a wake.
"It's such a fine line between stupid and clever."
+ like 23.5
"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."
We should all honor his memory....
By having a beer and a smoke….
"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."
Whoa....
Why is Charlie Weis umpiring at 3rd base??
"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."
Way to go Ed Gon!
That is why the NL is superior to the AL. Pitchers hitting; its a beautiful thing.
If our government wants to get involved in baseball (which i’m not a fan of) then the outta outlaw the DH.
Nah, let the pussy league use the DH.
We all KNOW who’s better….
"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."
???
Two outs, pitcher at the plate, and they try to pick off our catcher at first, who’s 0 for 2 in his career in steals?
Way to go, EdGon! The 2008 Diamondbacks- if the rest of the team won’t get it done, the pitchers sure will!
"It's such a fine line between stupid and clever."
Really? Ohfer?
I thought he was successful on a double-steal last year….
"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."
ESPN tells me he was caught stealing once in ‘05, and once last year, but no stolen bases.
"It's such a fine line between stupid and clever."
Well
ESPN does not care about lying to you, either….
"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."
I thought I remembered one
late last year
"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."
I can find no statistical proof of either instance ever occuring for Snyder.
"It's such a fine line between stupid and clever."
Whoa.... Twilight Zone.....
::do do do do, do do do do….::
"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."
Ah, defensive indifference, it is a harsh mistress.
No, that’s the sea. Never mind.
"It's such a fine line between stupid and clever."
Heck
As Jim pointed out, Danny Haren almost had an RBI last nite, too, but was robbed by AGon.
"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."
Well... I dunno about that....
Very, very little of last night’s game was agony.
Well, honestly, seeing Maddux get creamed by that much and keep pitching was sorta agonizing.
"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."
X your fingers
for a 3rd
"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."
I love Joe G....
“Pickoff?? He was 3 feet off the bag!!”
"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."
No ugg.
Followed by a groundout.
"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."
Yay!
Double D in da hizous… again!
"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."
Yah.
It’s awesome to hear.
"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."
Hmmm....
“Orlando Hudson supports Autism”? That’s terrible!!
"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."
Wow. I always thought it was pretty easy to pick sides on some fights, but I guess not everyone sees it that way.
"It's such a fine line between stupid and clever."
See above
"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."
Tie game!
F#&%!!
"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."
You realize....
....that Dan Uggla is a rule 5 guy too, right?
"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."
Why the heck
are there “Aveeno Positively Ageless” commercials on Fox Sports AZ? This isn’t figure skating….
"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."
Their offense has been terrible. So has their bullpen, too, so I’m not too worried right now…
"It's such a fine line between stupid and clever."
Yeah...
I REALLY don’t get all this hate for EdGon so early in the season….
"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."
I’m not basing my assessments of Edgar based on this season. He has a 5.9 career ERA. He had a 5 ERA last season. And I don’t think “winning 8 games” last season is very valuable for the team, since wins are a completely meaningless statistic. I would say that he was NOT valuable to the team b/c he posted a 5 ERA in a good chunk of innings.
I’m also a big fan of Petit and think that he deserves a shot.
by Philip from LA on Apr 19, 2008 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Touché, paqs!!
"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."
In about 80 career innings if I remember correctly. And Edgar has about 200+ career innings. And Petit is about a year and half younger than Edgar. More specifically, Edgar has proven that he can’t be an effective starter IN THIS BALLPARK.
It might be a moot point. Scherzer has the potential to be much better than both of them, right now.
by Philip from LA on Apr 19, 2008 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I really wouldn't pay any attention to his 5+ ERA last season,
seeing as how we really only played him when we were getting blown out.
IIRC, his starter’s ERA was much better.
"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."
From '05-'07
EdGon has a 4.09 ERA as a starter in 94 innings.
As a reliever he has a 6.80 ERA in 48 innings.
You're really touchy about this, huh?
First the “screw you” comment to foulpole, now this. Are you related to Edgar or something?
I'm always nervous when the guy is on the mound--and not just this year. I just don't feel comfortable with him out there. It's not a crime. Relax.
by azshadowwalker on Apr 19, 2008 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
That's weird.
I didn’t realize I hit the block quote button. Anyway, the guy makes me nervous. There seem to be a few people who feel that way. Relax. It’s not a personal attack.
by azshadowwalker on Apr 19, 2008 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions
It's a far cry from "makes me nervous"
to “not trying to win”. Is Gonzalez a great pitcher? No. Would I feel comfortable going into a season with him set as our number five starter? Probably not. But that’s not his role. He’s a swing man/sixth starter. For just about any team in the game he’s an asset in that role.
For the most part he keeps us in games and gives us a chance to win, which is pretty much the most you can reasonably ask from that spot in your pitching staff.
Nah.
I just hate all the negativity and bitching this early in the season—especially when we’ve got the best record in MLB so far. Also, foulpole’s been using that nickname since before his first start of the season.
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by DbacksSkins on Apr 19, 2008 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Holy crap....
.... I just realized, that’s the Pads’ first HR in almost 2 weeks.
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Our offense seems to have crashed. Someone reboot it.
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Dammit!
I guess this is what I get for eating a salad during a baseball game.
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A salad? Geez. I just started eating a steak, maybe that’ll help them.
I probably should have gone with hot dogs, though.
"It's such a fine line between stupid and clever."
Nah.
Steak is probably manly enough.
It’s just like how we were talking about Prince Fielder, remember? He turned veggie-tarian, and now he sucks.
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+ 1 meeellion dollars
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What's EdGon's pitch count?
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WTF??
They’re playing Livin’ La Vida Loca at the ballgame???
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CoSmacks the ball
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Git 'er done, Reynolds!!
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It’s time for our bats to…
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Allow me.

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by DbacksSkins on Apr 19, 2008 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
WTF....
Crap, we’re having trouble with posting pictures again.
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by DbacksSkins on Apr 19, 2008 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
How bout this?

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by DbacksSkins on Apr 19, 2008 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Whoa....
I just love this new, faster CoJack.
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Reynolds, the RBI was enough,
so we won’t hold the boneheaded slide past the bag against ya.
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You know how it is. Head home for Christmas, turns out your nephew got a shrink ray from Santa and keeps forgetting to turn on the safety.
Tale as old as time.
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Bonds got shrunk too.
It’s a conspiracy….
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by DbacksSkins on Apr 19, 2008 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I wish I could stop hearing
“Tad Igutchi” as
“tamagotchi”
We will meet in Red 3 at the hour of scampering.
+1
for obscure mid-90s Japanese fads
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by DbacksSkins on Apr 19, 2008 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions
+5
for the first person to make a reference to Pogs (Yeah, not Japanese, I know, but still.)
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by DbacksSkins on Apr 19, 2008 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Obscure?
They were the pogs of the late nineties.
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+5
duly awarded
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by DbacksSkins on Apr 19, 2008 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
And I’d even started typing it before the bounty was offered.
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+1
bonus
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by DbacksSkins on Apr 19, 2008 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Except
that if my pogs had started bitching at me about not being fed and stuff, I’d have had to put down whatever I was smoking/drinking.
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by DbacksSkins on Apr 19, 2008 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Howzabout now?

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Well
I hadda host it myself on my Flickr acct….. which has apparently been usurped by Yahoo.
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by DbacksSkins on Apr 19, 2008 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
He’s due up 2nd in our half. How often do we see a player make a great play on D then a big hit the next half inning?
yay reason!
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by DbacksSkins on Apr 19, 2008 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions
DROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
The crowd sounds like it’s booing, but we know better.
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Jupton! No!!
Eh, s’ok. I’m not really sure why I’m complaining about a baserunner on 1st w/ no outs.
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Whoa....
Pretty generous strike 1.
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Come on, guys!
Their bullpen sucks, let’s get to it!
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Has melvin learned
Not to bunt, finally?
wtf??
That wasn’t much of a strike 2, either
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DROOOOOOOO!!!!!
TIIIIIIIIIIIIIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Heh....
SD OFs = teh suck
2nd time in 2 games that one of our guys has gotten an XBH off an OF’s glove. (CoJack’s 3b last nite)
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I just remember
how excited my old roommate and I got when we officially clinched the worst record in the NL in 2004 guaranteeing us first dibs on J.
I feel like a father watching his son grow up and make him proud.
Well
EdGon AND Evil CY are both off the hook.
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Haha....
They got Kirk Gibson in the background yelling at Droo.
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4-3!!!!!
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Heh....
Allow me to repeat myself: SD OFs = teh suck
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by DbacksSkins on Apr 19, 2008 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Hudson is not having a great day. But glad to have the lead back.
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True.
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by DbacksSkins on Apr 19, 2008 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions
CATCH!!
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That catch
That’s something else. How many outfielder in the league make that catch? Andruw Jones? He couldn’t get in the same area code.
Haha
Watching that replay of his amazing GS-stealing catch from last year… I just love how all the Pads fans’ faces look so crestfallen after that catch.
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I am REALLY glad we got Qualls,
since having a great setup man is probably more important than a great closer anyway, so
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We need a comic book name for CY...
Nightcrawler?
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I know....
Not a fan, personally.
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by DbacksSkins on Apr 19, 2008 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions
That makes sense,
somehow.
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by DbacksSkins on Apr 19, 2008 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, c'mon!!
Do NOT defame CY with an Eminem reference….
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by DbacksSkins on Apr 19, 2008 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Interesting
conversation between some GLBers and myself
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Another walk for Reynolds
He’s got 10 in the first 17 games, as opposed to 39 all last year.
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That REALLY looked like a HR
off the bat of Jupton
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Didn’t they learn intentionally walking Drew to get to Snyder was a bad idea last night?
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+...something....
depending on how Snydes does.
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by DbacksSkins on Apr 19, 2008 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm confused,
Did reynolds really think that ball could have been caught.
I don’t know if he should have tried to score or not (esp. with one out), but I would have at least like to see him get to third sooner to allow for the possibility.
Poor Snyder… two games in a row the Pads say ‘yeah, you’re less dangerous than Drew, you walking GIDP.”
This could
have something to do with why they’re losing….
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by DbacksSkins on Apr 19, 2008 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions
No....
This… Is… ARIZONA!!!!
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by DbacksSkins on Apr 19, 2008 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions
C'mon Sally!!
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He's normally
REALLY solid at SS….
Those long Japanese-drawn legs, you know?
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by DbacksSkins on Apr 19, 2008 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions
BYRNES!!
EXTENDING THAT STREAK!!!!!
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Holy crap....
Did ANYONE see this turning into a blowout at the point that Evil CY was cruising and had a 3-1 lead?
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Sailor Moon
My daughter calls him “Sandra”
It's like living with a six-year old.
by 4 Corners Fan on Apr 19, 2008 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions
So long as it's a woman's name,
I won’t argue.
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by DbacksSkins on Apr 19, 2008 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Cuz she thinks he looks like a girl.
It's like living with a six-year old.
by 4 Corners Fan on Apr 19, 2008 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions
This is the difference between last year’s team and this one’s, right here – not just the increased offensive firepower, but the ability to blow a game open in a single inning.
Yah.
We don’t have to slowly nibble away to win.
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by DbacksSkins on Apr 19, 2008 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
What happened?
first we were down by one run, then we blowing it right out of the water.
by singaporedbacksfan on Apr 19, 2008 11:06 PM EDT reply actions
Oh... dude....
too soon….
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by DbacksSkins on Apr 19, 2008 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey! It’s my birthday today. The D-Backs finally started scoring when I got home. Thanks to San Diego for taking Chris Young out of the game. Great birthday gift.
Hey Happy Birthday to you too!
and the Dbacks got the win for you!
by singaporedbacksfan on Apr 19, 2008 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Siddown,
Sailor Moon.
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San Diego may also wish to rethink their bullpen, which has now squandered excellent outings by Peavy and Young just in the last three days. That’s a lot of rethinking on tap for you, Mr GM.
Well, their pen was pretty used up in that marathon vs. the Rockies. That hangover could last a few days.
Um...
I wouldn’t say the bullpen wasted the outing by Peavy…. the offense did, though.
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by DbacksSkins on Apr 19, 2008 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Funny thing is
Kevin Towers actually thought that Jim Edmonds would be a substitute for Mike Cameron… I mean, Cammy isn’t a superstar, but he’s not a total scrub, either….
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by DbacksSkins on Apr 19, 2008 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh my, I do love this offense we are trying out this year. New and different. But, I think I like it.
Way to go out on a limb there… :)
I saw an online poll yesterday (the Republic I think) in which more than 2% of respondents said the D’backs weren’t doing as well as they had expected. And I was like “what do you people want?”
Seriously?
Have they looked at the record at all?
It's like living with a six-year old.
by 4 Corners Fan on Apr 19, 2008 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Dude,
they lost two games to Cincy, and they’ve lost to the Rockies and Giants already. TOTALLY unacceptable…..
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by DbacksSkins on Apr 19, 2008 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Props to everyone
Including EdGon. Quality start, gave us a chance to win, that’s all you can ask for from your 6th starter.
Check your bias at the door, please :)
by Philip from LA on Apr 19, 2008 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL
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by DbacksSkins on Apr 19, 2008 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions
J.Mo
on da postgame sho
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I like the Suns,
but I’m not a huge bball fan, (besides the Hoyas) so this def makes up for ANYTHING the Suns could do.
Unless they contributed to the genocide in Darfur or something like that. NOTHING could make up for that.
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by DbacksSkins on Apr 19, 2008 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
Basketball, in my mind, just fills the time before Spring Training.
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personally offended by your culture
being from Indiana and all.
Baseball season, when everything becomes right in the world.
by seton hall snake pit on Apr 19, 2008 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions
haha
hoosier daddy??
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by DbacksSkins on Apr 19, 2008 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions
We call football soccer
and it’s played by girls? So do you really want to enter this discussion?
The boys in Sedona Red slugged it out with a pretty pesky poltergeist, then stayed on to dance the night away with some of the lovely ladies who witnessed the disturbance.
Well
like I said, I do love me some Hoyas. It’s funny, tho…. I couldn’t give a crap about UA bball, really.
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by DbacksSkins on Apr 19, 2008 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Another 10 runs
Ho hum.
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by DbacksSkins on Apr 19, 2008 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Well,
we’re now avging 6.588 runs/game. I was worried tonight might depress that…
Nope!
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I just watched the video of the RBI double from Byrnes, and I think this is the first time I’ve seen him with the mustache.
Man, he looks kinda goofy.
"It's such a fine line between stupid and clever."
It's
DEFINITELY a porn ‘stache.
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by DbacksSkins on Apr 19, 2008 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Whatever it is,
it is working. I am in favor of anything that keeps the mojo flowing.
by Snakebitten on Apr 19, 2008 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Well
I guess it’s NOT my beer consumption, because I forgot to drink a beer again. I had iced coffee instead tonight.
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by DbacksSkins on Apr 20, 2008 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Whoa!
Danica Patrick finally won a race!
That’s so hott…..
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Wow. That’s just… wow. I never thought I’d see the day.
Guess we can’t call her the Anna K of racing anymore, hey? (Although to be fair to Anna K, she was an excellent doubles player.)
And that most people might make it to pro
but that doesn’t mean they’re elite. She’s singled out ‘cos she’s hot and put herself out there as a model.
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Yeah.... I'll BET she was a good doubles player.
I can think of a few doubles games I’d like to play with her.
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by DbacksSkins on Apr 20, 2008 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions
She played with Hingis in all three of her Slam finals appearances (two titles.) I point this out simply as a matter of sporting curiousity.
In that case,
I spose I can think of a few triples games too
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by DbacksSkins on Apr 20, 2008 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Besides,
she’s married.
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by DbacksSkins on Apr 20, 2008 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Hey! I'm back
I only got to watch until the 5th before my Jewish duty called, and then received a text mentioning something awesome had happened in the 8th, and that we had won.
So after the seder I went to my Tivo and fast-forwarded to the 8th, Salazar walks. I’m thinking, “hey, grand slam?” Chris Young steps up the plate and…
Nothing. This is precisely the moment the recording reached it’s limit.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
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The game will be up on MLB.com soon enough, if it isn’t already… and the video quality is decent enough at 800k.
I looked up what happened
so now I’m just curious how the error played out.
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Oh crap!!
I was talking to my friend Morowitz in NY today and I forgot it was Passover!!
Oh well. So did he, probably.
Anyway, happy Passover, soco.
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by DbacksSkins on Apr 20, 2008 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Woo!
No bread for a week!!
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He's a very bad Jew.
My friend Morowitz, I mean.
Eric Cartman is his favorite fictional character.
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by DbacksSkins on Apr 20, 2008 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Hey!
I’ve made some diplomatic progress with Gaslamp Ball! Believe it or not!
I was able to introduce them to something they actually like about the Dbacks!!
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Impressive. Although T&A makes every diplomat’s task easier, yes? (And if you forge a detente with GLB, then who do we have left to hate? I guess we’d be down to LA, except for the ultramontanes who despise the Orckies… hating SF this year is like putting six past Derby County – it may be superficially satisfying, but you feel a little dirty doing it.)
Hating SF this year
is like stealing a retarded kid’s lunch money
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We’ve got five whole other divisions in baseball to dislike, plus the national media coverage. You know, the people who would make you think that the Red Sox are the hottest team in baseball right now.
"It's such a fine line between stupid and clever."
I LOVE THE SOX
I WEAR MY PINK SOX HAT ALL THE TIME
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Dude....
I really hope that reference to a “pink sock” was unintentional….
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It was
I was trying to make a comment to the Red Sox fans who have pink fashion hats.
The boys in Sedona Red slugged it out with a pretty pesky poltergeist, then stayed on to dance the night away with some of the lovely ladies who witnessed the disturbance.
Ok, good.
That’s really what I hoped…. I guess you can understand my horror?
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Yeah I realized that after I wrote it....
so to any of the kids out there that now have been shocked beyond belief by this, I’m truly sorry.
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Oh
And I didn’t say anything about not hating GLB. Feel free to still talk crap about Spiderman and MySpace and the Rainbow Unicorn. This is like the end of the Cold War; the Orckies are like the Japanese (even tho, ironically, their one Japanese player from last year is now with Houston) and we went to war with them but now we’re mostly cool with them. GLB is like the Russians—after the Cold War, we got kinda cool with them, but then later (like… right now) we both decided to still hate each other.
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I guess, if we slightly expand the analogy,
per Kishi’s suggestion, that could make the national media into the UN?
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Maybe
If we’re talking about a different UN that was centered on Mars, and didn’t care to acknowledge many of the participants of the Cold War very often.
"It's such a fine line between stupid and clever."
No.
This is the UN today. Like back in 2001 when we won they were down with us and everything, but not anymore. Now they TOTALLY ignore us in favor of all the little crappy worse “powers”.... like the Phillies, Orioles, and White Sox.
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NO NO NO
If the Rockies are Japan then we’re China. Two regional powers that at times may seemingly have similar interests, but in reality would wipe the other off the face of the planet if given the opportunity.
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No.
The Rockies are Japan, we’re the US, and you’re some dude who… hates Japanese people.
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More like yer one of them sympathizers
well we won’t stand for that kind!
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We DO have a lot of Orckies fans down here in Tucson,
since they do ST here. You gonna set up an internment camp or something??
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I wouldn't
Living in Tucson is punishment enough.
"It's such a fine line between stupid and clever."
Pretty much this
Living in “Big Yuma” is punishment enough I would think.
The boys in Sedona Red slugged it out with a pretty pesky poltergeist, then stayed on to dance the night away with some of the lovely ladies who witnessed the disturbance.
An alternate scenario
Perhaps, rather than the end of the Cold War, this is more like the early 1800s.
Arizona, the young, fresh-faced upstart is, of course, the new nation of America. The Rockies are Great Britain- enemies in hard-fought struggles, but still with a bond of a common ancestry behind them. Meanwhile, the Dodgers are France- as the French hoped for Napoleon to return their nation to glory, so the Dodgers fans put their faith in Joe Torre. The Padres, I suspect, are Spain, once a dominant power in the New World (or the NL West) but they found their glory eclipsed by Britain and America, and weakened by their own internal problems. The Giants, finally, are Portugal- they were a mighty presence once upon a time, but now are but a shadow of their former might.
So, that would make DbacksSkins overtures towards GLB the equivalent of the Adams-Onis Treaty? I don’t know.
Oh, and in this scenario, I guess the media would be Uatu, the Watcher.
"It's such a fine line between stupid and clever."
I guess closer
but still not quite right. Why would the Rockies by the British, a world power? The Rockies should be more like a one and done nation.
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The boys in Sedona Red slugged it out with a pretty pesky poltergeist, then stayed on to dance the night away with some of the lovely ladies who witnessed the disturbance.
That would be Canada
The Rockies’ 2007 NLCS are like The Kids in the Hall – the only meaningful thing they’ve accomplished in their history.
+ billions upon billions
"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."
I think the Rockies are still going to be a team to be reckoned with for the next few years. I seriously doubt they’re as bad a team as the first few weeks of the season makes them out to be.
"It's such a fine line between stupid and clever."
But they're not the British Empire either.
The boys in Sedona Red slugged it out with a pretty pesky poltergeist, then stayed on to dance the night away with some of the lovely ladies who witnessed the disturbance.
Hmmm....
Alright, just for the moment, we’ll indulge you, soco; instead of the world in 1800, let’s make this the world in 1600…. the Rockies are the Vasa Swedes; a world power for all of… 80 years or so. The Dbacks are the rising nation-state of France; the Dodgers are the Russians, an ancient, dormant, and disorganized potential state; the Padres are…. again, the Spanish, strong now, but not for long, and the Giants are…. well, they can be the Papal States—it’s ALL downhill from here for them.
"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."
That’s good. Jim can have a new signature line – “Le Snakepit, c’est moi.”
So who’s Austria – ie, our eternal enemy once their buddies in Spain take a swan-dive?
well austria isn't really anyone yet....
theyre still a part of the sick and dying “holy roman empire.” (not holy, roman, OR an empire…. that always pissed me off)
and if this is the 1600s, then austria is almost like an ally—being Catholic and all.
"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."
I grieve to correct you, my son. Austria is about to get awfully important, eclipsing their cousins in Spain as the continental counterweight to France, and they are always – always - on the other side from us. (Hell, we prefer the Turks to the Austrians.) Indeed, if this is 1600-ish, by and by we’re going to get drawn into this nasty little spat known as the Thirty Years War… and although Vasa Sweden (hi Orckies!) do most of the fighting against the Austrians, we bankroll Swedish operations, and fight a long series of side campaigns against the Hapsburg allies in Bavaria – besides the endless god-damned war in the Low Countries against Spain.
Austria might be someone like the Mets, or even a team in the AL – their sphere of influence doesn’t directly bump into ours’ like with SD (unless you count Italy, which is to say the PCL), but they stand squarely between us and any attempt at European hegemony (ie, a pennant or WS title).
Yes, but...
...not in 1600. I didn’t even mention the TYW…. sorry, shoulda been more specific.
Oh, and they’re not gonna be on the other side from us after Napoleon crushes them. Not for a little while, at least.
"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."
Who's Poland?
And who would be the Turks? And the Venetians? Obviously, the Venetians would be some feisty, small-market team—like the Marlins, or something.
"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."
If this is 1600, and we’re France, then Spain is still enemy numero uno. After 1659, Spain is a second-rate power in Europe (and most historians consider Rocroi in 1643 as the moment Spain passes its torch to France as the pre-eminent power in the west.) From the 1630s, Austria becomes our principal rival – although indeed, Austria has been an intermittent enemy ever since the union of its house with that of Burgundy, although Spain is generally the more dangerous of the Hapsburg powers. (Certainly after the abdication of Charles V, when his empire is divided into Austrian and Spanish halves – their rulers still co-operate, but each state has its own particular objectives and policies.)
Now, Austria does eventually turn into a pumpkin – but that’s about two and a half centuries in the future.
Hmm, Poland… has to be someone friendly to whoever Austria turns out to be, and opposed to Colorado – recall, the Vasas spent their leisure time prior to the TYW trying to claim the Polish crown. The Turks are an enemy of our enemy situation, and someone no-one else really likes – if Austria is the Mets, for example, then Turkey could be the Yanks. (As France we don’t necessarily like Turkey, but they provide a very useful counter-weight to the Hapsburgs, both in the Med and pushing up the Danube valley to pressure Vienna.)
Italy is tough – none of the city-states are more than AAA, really, compared to powers like Austria, France and Spain… and indeed, many of them are more or less controlled by the heavy-weights. (The Hapsburgs and France have already spent a century squabbling over Milan; Naples and Sicily are firmly Spanish.)
Poland would be a very interesting case....
....since they need to come save the Mets from the Yankees during the second half of the century. I guess that would make whoever manages them Sobieski.
"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."
The Red Sox, perhaps? The famousest Vasa of them all very nearly came to grief fighting in Poland – that could be spun as a WS sweep, I suppose.
Terry Francona = Jan Sobieski?
Hmmmm…. I guess I could buy that.
Then again…. I have trouble seeing Clint Hurdle as Gustavus Adolphus.
"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."
Hehe – you aren’t the only one. But I’m not sure Kirk Gibson is my idea of Richelieu, either… (perhaps if he added a Van Dyke to his embryonic mustache, and wore a scarlet skullcap in the dugout.)
Hmmm.....
See, I could TOTALLY see K.Gib as Richelieu…
"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."
I suppose I could be persuaded… a scarlet skullcap would be the clincher, though.
Does this mean we can start running out a Three Musketeers theme for the youngsters? We haven’t really gotten into classic (if roistering) literature yet.
Sentences I never thought I would read...
“See, I could TOTALLY see K.Gib as Richelieu.”
Thank you, guys, for elevating the collective SB Nation IQ about 20 points. Which will help counter the co-ed pics on GLB… :-)
by Jim McLennan on Apr 20, 2008 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes,
we rule.
But we don’t mind co-ed pics either.
"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."

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