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Diamondbacks 5, Rockies 13: What is this thing called "defeat"?

Record: 9-3. Pace: 122-40. Change on last season: +1

Can't win 'em all. And if you're going to lose, you might as well do so in a blowout fashion, with your starter going only three innings, the previously-reliable bullpen coughing up a ten-spot the rest of the way, and the top third of your order going 2-for-13. Add in base baserunning (Upton getting picked off, a move that probably stopped us from getting the tying run to third with one out in the sixth), questionable fielding (not least Upton again) and an inexplicable apparent ignorance of the infield-fly rule by Orlando Hudson: yes, this game contained enough suckitude to make up for the near-flawless play of the last week,

It is, therefore, not a contest upon which I want to dwell. This should be swept rapidly under the carpet, the team moving on to begin another winning streak, starting with Randy Johnson's return against the Giants tomorrow. But duty compels me to review the horrors which unfolded today, starting with Edgar Gonzalez, who felt compelled to pitch permanently from the stretch, allowing the Rockies' leadoff man to reach in every inning. He was gone after three innings in which he faced eighteen batters, yet escaped with allowing three earned runs,

The bullpen which followed were even more forgettable, with the honorable exception of Brandon Medders, who posted a scoreless sixth. All told, the combined line was six innings of work, ten hits, four walks, two hit batters [in addition to the two EdGon plunked, overall tying the franchise record of four, set against LA on July 3rd, 2006] and ten earned runs. Admittedly, it was mostly the B-pen, but Tony Pena was only saved from giving up a grand-slam in the ninth, by the wild-pitch he uncorked immediately beforehand. That was more runs for the relief corps than in the eleven previous games combined, single-handedly raising our bullpen ERA from 2.64 to 5.43, dropping us from first to thirteenth in the NL, over one afternoon.

In the face of such mediocrity, the offense would have been hard pushed to catch up. They did have their moments, getting the tying run on base in the fourth, and to the plate in the sixth, but the absence of Young in the leadoff spot was sorely felt. Eric Byrnes hit there instead, and went 1-for-5, seeing a total of just ten pitches in those five trips to the plate. Down the order, there was good work done by Stephen Drew and Chris Snyder, each having three-hit games and adding a walk and an RBI. Snyder's performance was particularly pleasing to see, since he came into the game with just three hits on the season. Jeff Salazar added two hits and three RBI; Hudson, Reynolds and Upton all reached safely twice, and we did manage 12 hits in total.

One good thing: attendance continues to impress. Obviously, the tenth-anniversary celebrations and some cool giveaways likely helped lure more people to the ballpark. But compared to the equivalent second home series in 2007 [which was also over the weekend against the Rockies], crowds were up more than 30%: 92,309 to 69,844. Now we've got the festivities out of the way, we'll see how things settle down, but it'd be nice to see average crowds around the 30,000 mark as we go through the first-half of the season, then ramp up as we head down the stretch towards the playoffs.

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Master of his domain: Jeff Salazar, +16.5%
God-emperor of suck: Edgar Gonzalez, -16.3%

TwinnerA, kishi, foulpole, soco, DbacksSkins, hotclaws, DbacksSkins, 4 Corners Fan, paqs [Welcome to the threads!], dstorm, Muu, unnamedDBacksfan, seton hall snake pit, singaporedbacksfan, LucaMaz3, Stile4aly, Turambar, Azreous and snakecharmer were the inhabitants in the Gameday Thread, bravely struggling on, even after the technical pixies stole the voices away from Mr. Sutton and Mr. Grace. Yes, all told, this will definitely be the kind of game that should be put behind us, as rapidly as possible. And what better way to do it, than by going to the consensus worst team in the division, with a five-time Cy Young winner on the mound?

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Lead off man

Is everyone generally pleased having Young in that spot? I hear a lot of chatter (on other sites) about moving EB to that spot and was pointed out on the game day thread and real life, EB just does not have the patience for that spot.
for me, I'd say if it ain't broke, why try and fix it?
Just curious as to what others thought.

by unnamedDBacksfan on Apr 13, 2008 11:55 PM EDT   0 recs

I really like

having CY in that spot - as long as he continues to show that new-found patience at the plate and gets a significant amount of walks.

CY really has the potential to be a GREAT lead-off hitter because of his power. For a normal lead-off, opposing pitchers may not think twice about throwing fastball strikes just to get their stuff going. However, with CY, you have to think twice --- You pitch him a fast ball and there's a good chance it ends up in the seats -- so you're more apt to "pitch around" CY a bit, or throw him more curves, etc. which ultimately COULD lead to more walks if CY can keep a good eye.

I'm not a fan of putting EB in that spot.

by dstorm on Apr 14, 2008 1:23 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I think I'm glad I was out all day

But I think I will have to play the tivo at the end to see the awesomeness that I hear about signs and signals during the audio problems

by snakecharmer on Apr 14, 2008 12:15 AM EDT   0 recs

You going

to any of the games this week?

by unnamedDBacksfan on Apr 14, 2008 12:23 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Wednesday

and hopefully Tuesday. I can't wait to see the boys. They better win on Monday (so they'll be nice on Tuesday) and Wednesday (so I won't get mercilessly teased)!

by snakecharmer on Apr 14, 2008 1:43 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Monday

You're not going today? I convinced my wife to join me this evening, so we'll be at the game tonight.

by bcloirao on Apr 14, 2008 4:32 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Drat!

No, I can't make it tonight, bummer to miss you! But I did get my tickets for tomorrow so I'm very excited to be going to two games this time. :)

by snakecharmer on Apr 14, 2008 5:59 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

It was hilarious --

Seriously laugh out loud funny stuff.... I really like Sutton and Grace, and this one just took the cake... My favorite was when Holliday hits one into the seats and Grace writes in big letters on the screen "UNCLE!"

Great stuff

by dstorm on Apr 14, 2008 1:25 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

That does sound good!

I'll watch that tonight, it'll cheer me up. :)

by snakecharmer on Apr 14, 2008 1:42 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I thought that was hilarious as well....

....and so did a few of the Purple Rowers, apparently, who have EI and so had the FSAZ feed.

"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."

by DbacksSkins on Apr 14, 2008 2:22 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

55 Pitches ...

Look, we were either going to go one way or another at that point. We could have let EdGon eat a few more runs, or we could have used up the bullpen. I hate the move to go to them at that point with RJ up tomorrow. For all we know, he's got one pitch in him and he's out. I sure as hell hope not ... But the point is, EdGon should have it in him to be a field general at that point.

Ugh, whatever. I know it's a long season, but watching FSN in silence and seeing The Rocks pour it on, that was disappointing.

by Captain D Bag on Apr 14, 2008 1:41 AM EDT   0 recs

Normally would agree

But in this case, his replacement was headed for Tucson tomorrow - so no damage done to the bull-pen --- Other than a bunch of humbled egos after giving up all the runs....

I do share your nervousness around RJ.... I'm not counting on him for much of anything this year.

by dstorm on Apr 14, 2008 2:02 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah

RJ is taking Peguero's spot tomorrow, so I don't have any problem whatsoever with BoMel using him as the long reliever.

By the way -- does anyone else remember Piggy EVER being used as a long reliever? (With the big league club, I mean)

"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."

by DbacksSkins on Apr 14, 2008 2:24 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

By the way,

this is from the AP recap, on EdGon:

"Melvin said Gonzalez was ''a little bit sick.'' A team spokesman said it was an infected tooth.

''He got a little dizzy out there,'' Melvin said. ''That's why he had to come out of the game. So he was fighting that early on. He didn't have his best stuff. The ball was up in the zone. That probably had something to do with it.'' "

That would certainly explain it....

"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."

by DbacksSkins on Apr 14, 2008 2:28 AM EDT   0 recs

hmmmm ---

wonder if that's another way of saying he had whiplash from all the baseballs that went screaming past him in the first 3 innings.

by dstorm on Apr 14, 2008 11:08 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

touche

I have never had a bad toothache, but I have heard from others who have that it hurts bad!! Still, when he left the game he had only given up 3 runs and we were still in the game, so I almost put it more on the bullpen at really blowing it bad.

by TwinnerA on Apr 14, 2008 12:55 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

This is true.

That's partially why I'm willing to believe the tooth story.

"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."

by DbacksSkins on Apr 14, 2008 1:50 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

That wasn't easy watching :(

I have no problem with the quick hook, because it looked like Edgar was really struggling out there. Plan B for tonight is Petit and he didn't pitch yesterday.

The disappointing thing is that the relievers who were supposed to be good (Cruz, Slaten, Pena) got hit the hardest. We need to contact Grace & Sutton and tell them "please, no more nicknames, EVER" :)

Cook was pretty good yesterday, but it doesn't explain why we were hacking at the first pitch so much (especially Byrnes). Most of the at-bats that went to 5-6 pitches or more resulted in walks or hits.

Another thing, did you get the feeling the Rockies didn't do much to get out of the way of the ball? At least 3 of the HBP were avoidable.

by paqs on Apr 14, 2008 8:38 AM EDT   0 recs

Hey everybody, Giants' fan here, just checking things out getting ready for the series starting tonight, looks like you have a great site and great fans here.

Any word on how Johnson is pitching in his rehab starts? Sanchez has been striking out quite a few guys and most Giants' fans are extremely excited about tonight's matchup. In his first start he got hit around a ton while striking out 8. He was able to put it all together against the Cardinals and keep people off base. We'll see which Sanchez shows up tonight. It should be fun playing another hot team to see if our offensive production in the last few games was an illusion or not, good luck!

by paboperfecto on Apr 14, 2008 12:19 PM EDT   0 recs

He was knocked around a bit in his second-to-last start, when he was focusing more on throwing strikes and hitting location than the results. His last rehab start was pretty solid: 6 IP, 3 H, 1 BB, 7 K, if I remember correctly. I'd imagine he's going to be kept on a very short leash tonight; I'd be surprised if he went more than 90 pitches.

by Azreous on Apr 14, 2008 12:45 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

That second start sounds about right for Randy, hopefully our AAA lineup can do better than that. Great guy, hope he has a good year....beginning with his next start.

by paboperfecto on Apr 14, 2008 12:50 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Welcome to the 'Pit!

Friendly and respectful foreign fans are always welcome here.

"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."

by DbacksSkins on Apr 14, 2008 2:02 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Hudson: IFR

Missed the game. What happened on the infield fly rule with Hudson that was so bad?
vr, Xeifrank

by Xeifrank on Apr 14, 2008 12:46 PM EDT   0 recs

the whole play was a disaster

O-Dawg was at first, the 1st baseman missed the ball (infield fly rule in effect) - so the batter was out. Orlando then took off for 2nd base - the Rockies threw the ball to 2nd, who tagged the base but didn't bother tagging O-Dawg -- So he would have been safe had he just stayed on 2nd.... But O-Dawg, thinking he was out, rounded the base and started heading for the dugout. The 2nd baseman then figured out he had to tag him and applied the tag to end the inning.

by dstorm on Apr 14, 2008 1:04 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: O-Dawg

Sounds like not only the base runner but the 2nd baseman messed up. What about the other runners, what did they do? There had to have been atleast a runner on 2nd and maybe 3rd to have the infield fly rule in effect. If O-Dawg ran to 2nd, what did the runner on 2nd do?
vr, Xeifrank

by Xeifrank on Apr 14, 2008 1:30 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

On another note,

Jim, you neglected to mention that O-Dawg's K-less streak was snapped.

"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."

by DbacksSkins on Apr 14, 2008 4:44 PM EDT   0 recs

Could we bury a Giants jersey in concrete

for luck?

We will meet in Red 3 at the hour of scampering.

by hotclaws on Apr 14, 2008 5:47 PM EDT   0 recs

I read that

what a great story.

by AZSEAfan on Apr 14, 2008 6:28 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Me too.

What a fine idea! Let's do it.

"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."

by DbacksSkins on Apr 14, 2008 6:38 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Important lessons there

Like "Don't talk about it to the media until after they finish building."

"It's such a fine line between stupid and clever."

by kishi on Apr 14, 2008 9:02 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

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