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Playoff Gameday Thread, #4: 10/04/08

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You have to feel some sympathy for TBS, who hardly getting bang for their buck in their playoff coverage. Last year, the five series they covered [the four division ones, plus the NLCS] lasted a single game past the bare minimum, with only one not ending in a sweep. This year, all four division series are 2-0, so hardly promise to be a marathon ratings bonanza - everything could be over by dinner-time tomorrow night in Arizona. Yesterday, we saw the Rays keep their perfect play-off record intact, beating the White Sox again, while the Red Sox stunned the Angels with an ninth-inning homer off K-Rod, that probably knocked several million dollars off his free-agent value. Today, it's back to the National League, with the Cubs and Brewers both facing elimination games.

3:35pm AZT, TBS

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Jamie Moyer
LHP, 16-7, 3.71

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Dave Bush
RHP, 9-10, 4.18

Jamie Moyer was the oldest player in his league...back in 2005. Needless to say, he won that title again this season, and tied the record for most wins by a pitcher 45 or older, set by knuckleballer Phil Niekro in 1984 and 1985. He won't overpower you, but after twenty-three years pitching in the majors, you should have a good idea of how to pitch. As one of only a handful of players that are older than me and still active, I'll be pulling for Moyer, from my recliner with a beer. You really wouldn't want to send up a pitcher with a losing record in an elimination game, but the Brewers turn to the mediocre talents of Dave Bush, a career 43-46. The loss of Sheets was a hammer-blow to the Brewers' changes, and they look all but done.

7.05pm AZT, TBS

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Rich Harden
RHP, 10-2, 2.07

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Hiroki Kuroda
RHP, 9-10, 3.73

Quick trivia question. Which three former Cubs were on the D-backs World Series-winning team in 2001? One should be obvious, one you'll probably guess, but the third one surprised me. Anyway: Chicago desperately needs to end its streak of eight consecutive post-season defeats, stretching back to 2003, but I have to say, looking at the pitching match-ups the next couple of days, they do seem to have the edge. On the other hand, if any team can find a way to lose, when victory seems possible, that would be the North siders. Harden proved a great pick-up for the Cubs, defying expectations by remaining healthy; Kuroda has been mercurial, sometimes unhittable, but other times looking nothing special.

I'll be about in the afternoon, but we're off to watch SnakePit Jr. in a comedy show tonight, so I doubt I'll be seeing much of the Cubs-Dodgers game. My main hope for that series was that one or other team would be utterly humiliated [I wasn't too concerned who], so I will be cheering on the NL West representatives there, even though I will then immediately dump them in favor of the Phillies [almost certainly] for the NLCS. The poll today is now who you think will win the World Series, and I've only explicitly named the four teams who are winning. Really, if you think the Brewers can come back from 2-0 down, I admire your optimism.

And the answer to the trivia question: the three ex-Cubs who won with us in 2001 were: Mark Grace [if you didn't get that, how was Siberia?]; Luis Gonzalez [traded from the Astros to the Cubs in mid-1995, left as a free agent in 1996]; and this is the one that I didn't guess, Miguel Batista. He was plucked off waivers from the Marlins by Chicago in December 1996, and started six games for them the next year. Since he went 0-5 with a 5.70 ERA, he's probably grateful it's largely been forgotten ever since.

Poll
Who do you think WILL win the World Series?
Dodgers
14 votes
Phillies
4 votes
Rays
23 votes
Red Sox
10 votes
One of the teams down 2-0
5 votes

56 votes | Poll has closed

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I had no idea

that Moyer was so good this year.

"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson

by Scrbl on Oct 4, 2008 5:37 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I did

In fact, he and the Phillies beat AZ 11-4 early in the season.

by TwinnerA on Oct 4, 2008 6:50 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I remember the win

or, in our case, the loss. But I thought it was an aberration. But it looks like he’s been good all season. I’m very impressed.

"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson

by Scrbl on Oct 4, 2008 7:09 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Brewers threaten early

Two men in scoring position with no outs.

by Jim McLennan on Oct 4, 2008 6:57 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Without a hit

Two walks and a wild pitch by Moyer thus far.

by Jim McLennan on Oct 4, 2008 6:58 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

2-0 to the Brewers at the end of the first

They’re already looking much better than they were in the first couple of games in this series.

by Jim McLennan on Oct 4, 2008 7:06 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No no no.

I don’t have to feel any sympathy for TBS.

by Azreous on Oct 4, 2008 7:23 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

?

Sounds like I missed something interesting.

"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson

by Scrbl on Oct 4, 2008 7:24 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wow

That’s so much simpler than the thing I made up in my head. I’ve been reading about the recent financial bailout bill all day and thought that TBS was in some kind of financial distress. Then I thought that…well, sometimes these things get away from me.

Now that I’m back on the same page as everyone else, no I don’t feel much sympathy either. But I would like some of the trailing teams to show a little life this weekend.

"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson

by Scrbl on Oct 4, 2008 7:35 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And yes

I read the intro, but missed the sympathy thing altogether. Time to work on my reading comprehension.

"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson

by Scrbl on Oct 4, 2008 7:37 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I trust

That none of the $700 billion will go to cable companies. Unless TNT agree to bring back Witchblade, at least.

by Jim McLennan on Oct 4, 2008 7:52 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Amen to that

"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson

by Scrbl on Oct 4, 2008 8:14 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hi ppl

=p

Wikipedia is accurate. (citation needed)

by Muu on Oct 4, 2008 8:01 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hi!

Thought about you yesterday, as we saw a number plate here that said, MNAMNAH. :-)

by Jim McLennan on Oct 4, 2008 8:02 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

lol

I went to a party last weekend and saw a girl wearing a shirt that said “got manah?” =p

Wikipedia is accurate. (citation needed)

by Muu on Oct 4, 2008 8:09 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Bush keeping the Phillies in check

Five shutout innings so far. Part of me does want the Brewers to win this, as that’ll be another game to watch tomorrow. This charity does not extend to the Cubs, however; they need to go down tonight!

by Jim McLennan on Oct 4, 2008 8:14 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Anything to stretch out this series

I have the free time to actually watch some of the games this weekend.

But I agree wholeheartedly about the Cubs.

"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson

by Scrbl on Oct 4, 2008 8:16 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

sounds good, but

I’d like to see the Phillies well rested before they meet the Ladies in the nlcs…

Wikipedia is accurate. (citation needed)

by Muu on Oct 4, 2008 8:18 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

When Jamie Moyer

left the game, they put up a graphic showing his range of pitch speeds.

Fastest: 86 mph
Slowest: 66 mph

I’m amazed that a non-knuckleballer can pitch that slow and be so successful.

"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson

by Scrbl on Oct 4, 2008 8:15 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sounds like Livan

Or perhaps a bit like Doug Davis, though I think he can hurry it up there at almost 90 on occasion.

by Jim McLennan on Oct 4, 2008 8:22 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I didn’t realize that Gagne was playing for the Brewers.

It's like living with a six-year old.

by 4 Corners Fan on Oct 4, 2008 9:45 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Did he always

look so out-of-control? It’s not quite “Wild Thing” but he almost falls over at the end of some of those pitches.

"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson

by Scrbl on Oct 4, 2008 9:54 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I've noticed that sometimes

Chad Qualls looks like he is about to fall down at the end of his pitches too.

by TwinnerA on Oct 4, 2008 10:03 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well damn

Bases loaded and no out is NOT the way to SAVE a ballgame, dude!

by snakecharmer on Oct 4, 2008 10:06 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That

was a fun game. I’m glad I got to watch it.

"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson

by Scrbl on Oct 4, 2008 10:36 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Woooh!

I’m still hoping for the full slate tomorrow.

"Now, this is the dumbest thing I've ever heard [Hank Steinbrenner] say, and this is the third time I've said that this season."

by kishi on Oct 4, 2008 11:04 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Okay, Cubs, let’s at least make this interesting.

It's like living with a six-year old.

by 4 Corners Fan on Oct 4, 2008 10:20 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Rich Harden is pitching!!

I hate the Cubs but I LOVE Richie!! I met him once, he was nice and super cute… oh and yeah, being a damn good pitcher, that too…

by snakecharmer on Oct 4, 2008 10:21 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Setting aside who he plays for

I’m glad he’s had a good (and full) season. It’s nice to see him last the whole yera.

"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson

by Scrbl on Oct 4, 2008 10:48 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh, bad call there.

It's like living with a six-year old.

by 4 Corners Fan on Oct 4, 2008 10:23 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Cubs aren't doing much yet

Dodgers up 2-0 in the middle of the third.

"Now, this is the dumbest thing I've ever heard [Hank Steinbrenner] say, and this is the third time I've said that this season."

by kishi on Oct 4, 2008 10:59 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah, this is discouraging. Seems like they could play a better game and make the series competitive. (You know, for TBS’s sake.)

It's like living with a six-year old.

by 4 Corners Fan on Oct 4, 2008 11:06 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Kishi, can you get on gchat?

It's like living with a six-year old.

by 4 Corners Fan on Oct 4, 2008 11:11 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Okay! Now! Cubs! Let’s get some runs!

It's like living with a six-year old.

by 4 Corners Fan on Oct 4, 2008 11:16 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I want a full slate

of games tomorrow, but I’m not going to be around after 4pm to enjoy them. Damn these prior commitments!

We are gonna get drunk with Adam Dunn and we're gonna head-butt some damn kangaroos.

by soco on Oct 4, 2008 11:21 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You and your lame sense of priorities

Geez.

"Now, this is the dumbest thing I've ever heard [Hank Steinbrenner] say, and this is the third time I've said that this season."

by kishi on Oct 4, 2008 11:23 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I know

heaven forbid I spend time with my wife. Geez. And eat delicious food.

We are gonna get drunk with Adam Dunn and we're gonna head-butt some damn kangaroos.

by soco on Oct 5, 2008 1:56 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wait, correct that. Delicious FREE food

I knew I married you for a reason! ;)

What a crazy random happenstance!

by mrssoco on Oct 5, 2008 1:58 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeeeeeeeeeeah!

We are gonna get drunk with Adam Dunn and we're gonna head-butt some damn kangaroos.

by soco on Oct 5, 2008 1:59 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hmm

Looks interesting, let’s just scroll down the page a bi-

Wait, what’s this? “Who’s on the Menu”

Who? Who? Guys, if they offer you the soylent green, just say no.

"Now, this is the dumbest thing I've ever heard [Hank Steinbrenner] say, and this is the third time I've said that this season."

by kishi on Oct 5, 2008 3:45 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Will they taste good?

Yes? Sign me up!

We are gonna get drunk with Adam Dunn and we're gonna head-butt some damn kangaroos.

by soco on Oct 5, 2008 4:02 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

8 more outs for the Cubs

I’m the one who mentioned the Cubs wouldn’t go quietly this year… and yet, they are…..

by snakecharmer on Oct 5, 2008 12:20 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wasted chance there.

Can’t get anything out of two on, one out. Sounds just like us.

Cubs better pull their heads out of their rears if they want this season to last more than six more outs.

by Azreous on Oct 5, 2008 12:30 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

There is

a certain slump-shouldered quality to the Cubs dugout right now. Wish it didn’t look so familiar

"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson

by Scrbl on Oct 5, 2008 12:43 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Cubs one out away from being swept

for the second straight post-season!!

I have to admit, that does give me a little satisfaction…

by snakecharmer on Oct 5, 2008 1:10 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I can’t help but wonder if Lou doesn’t get heavily blamed for a second consecutive sweep.

"Now, this is the dumbest thing I've ever heard [Hank Steinbrenner] say, and this is the third time I've said that this season."

by kishi on Oct 5, 2008 1:13 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Plus

These are Cubs fans. They’re probably going to blame everyone on down to the groundskeeping crew.

"Now, this is the dumbest thing I've ever heard [Hank Steinbrenner] say, and this is the third time I've said that this season."

by kishi on Oct 5, 2008 1:19 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The Cubs looked awfully flat

but aside from that, did he make any obvious managerial blunders this series?

"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson

by Scrbl on Oct 5, 2008 1:19 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The Cubs looked flat

Do the media and the fans need anything more?

I’m not saying he’ll be fired, but public opinion has been pretty heavily on his side for the most part. I’m just curious if it’ll swing the other way, and how long it’ll stay like that.

"Now, this is the dumbest thing I've ever heard [Hank Steinbrenner] say, and this is the third time I've said that this season."

by kishi on Oct 5, 2008 1:28 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

To be fair

I blame our manager for the D-Backs’ lackluster play too.

I was curious if there was a signature mishap. It’s easier to put on a website or a t-shirt that way.

"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson

by Scrbl on Oct 5, 2008 1:32 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Congratulations, Cubs

On a full century of futility.

"Now, this is the dumbest thing I've ever heard [Hank Steinbrenner] say, and this is the third time I've said that this season."

by kishi on Oct 5, 2008 1:11 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I agree

Feel free to go to another blog for your celebration.

"Now, this is the dumbest thing I've ever heard [Hank Steinbrenner] say, and this is the third time I've said that this season."

by kishi on Oct 5, 2008 1:18 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Heh

I just turned on the TV. Judging by the celebration, I thought LA won the World Series.

I guess 20 years of incompetent money soaked, utter futility will do that ;-)

by Diamondhacks on Oct 5, 2008 1:20 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

They’re called the NL Championship Finals.

You really havent been there, have you?

by Diamondhacks on Oct 5, 2008 1:23 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You like LADs?

Well, there’s alot of that these days. You’ll find this a very open site, respectful of alternative lifestyles.

by Diamondhacks on Oct 5, 2008 1:28 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Excuse me

but as we have already mentioned above, please refrain from gloating and take your excessive celebrations elsewhere.

by snakecharmer on Oct 5, 2008 1:31 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Like the dodger site?

novel idea, too bad he didn’t think of it earlier..

"So Long, and Thanks for all the Fish!"

by unnamedDBacksfan on Oct 5, 2008 1:32 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

on OUR board?

"So Long, and Thanks for all the Fish!"

by unnamedDBacksfan on Oct 5, 2008 1:32 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

thanks

that’s all we ask

"So Long, and Thanks for all the Fish!"

by unnamedDBacksfan on Oct 5, 2008 1:34 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Also

Snacks. We ask for snacks. But don’t really expect them.

"Now, this is the dumbest thing I've ever heard [Hank Steinbrenner] say, and this is the third time I've said that this season."

by kishi on Oct 5, 2008 1:34 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+10

ALWAYS up for snacks

"So Long, and Thanks for all the Fish!"

by unnamedDBacksfan on Oct 5, 2008 1:36 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You weren't getting attacked

And we are going to protect this site if you don’t stop. I mean it.

by snakecharmer on Oct 5, 2008 1:33 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You defended yourself

like Custer defended Montana. Buh, bye

by Diamondhacks on Oct 5, 2008 1:49 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We're not trying to phase you

We’re laughing at how foolish, immature, unsportsmanlike and cowardly you are.

by Diamondhacks on Oct 5, 2008 1:34 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We've been there twice in the past 10 years

the dodgers?

"So Long, and Thanks for all the Fish!"

by unnamedDBacksfan on Oct 5, 2008 1:34 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Who's this lad he keeps talking to?

And are they really leaving?

"Now, this is the dumbest thing I've ever heard [Hank Steinbrenner] say, and this is the third time I've said that this season."

by kishi on Oct 5, 2008 1:28 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Are you starting a cajun band?

I guess that’d be a good slogan for someone promoting good ol’ swamp rhythms.

"Now, this is the dumbest thing I've ever heard [Hank Steinbrenner] say, and this is the third time I've said that this season."

by kishi on Oct 5, 2008 1:34 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

A cajun band

that plays trance.

"So Long, and Thanks for all the Fish!"

by unnamedDBacksfan on Oct 5, 2008 1:35 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I felt the immediate need to Google to see if such a thing already existed.

"Now, this is the dumbest thing I've ever heard [Hank Steinbrenner] say, and this is the third time I've said that this season."

by kishi on Oct 5, 2008 1:46 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Zydeco-Trance Fusion?

"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson

by Scrbl on Oct 5, 2008 1:47 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

lol

"So Long, and Thanks for all the Fish!"

by unnamedDBacksfan on Oct 5, 2008 1:48 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Why is it that

Europe has T H E best Trance music on the planet?
It’s those damn cajuns spoilin’ things I guess.
Some of the newer Yank stuff is getting better, but give me some good ole Euro Trance.

"So Long, and Thanks for all the Fish!"

by unnamedDBacksfan on Oct 5, 2008 2:17 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Don't quite know

But if you’re looking for good trance or techno, you’re probably best checking east of the Atlantic. Just another reason I’m so glad the internet exists, otherwise I probably never would have heard of many bands I otherwise enjoy.

"Now, this is the dumbest thing I've ever heard [Hank Steinbrenner] say, and this is the third time I've said that this season."

by kishi on Oct 5, 2008 3:43 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

DJ Tiesto is a fave of mine as is

Arman Van Buuren.

Man, I soo want that job in Veldhoven, NL.

So, why do you want to work for our company over here?

So I can be closer to some clubs that play real trance?

"So Long, and Thanks for all the Fish!"

by unnamedDBacksfan on Oct 5, 2008 4:09 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ArmIn Van Buuren

that’s with an ‘I" not an ’a’

"So Long, and Thanks for all the Fish!"

by unnamedDBacksfan on Oct 5, 2008 4:24 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No luck

Despite a concerted (read: half-assed) effort. So, you’re in the clear, AZWildcats- you’ll be breaking new ground.

"Now, this is the dumbest thing I've ever heard [Hank Steinbrenner] say, and this is the third time I've said that this season."

by kishi on Oct 5, 2008 4:15 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hah.

I don’t really give a damn about MMA, but seeing that Kimbo Slice lost in a whopping 14 seconds tonight is extremely funny to me.

by Azreous on Oct 5, 2008 1:28 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wow

that didn’t go as planned.

"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson

by Scrbl on Oct 5, 2008 1:29 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That was exactly what I thought of

"Now, this is the dumbest thing I've ever heard [Hank Steinbrenner] say, and this is the third time I've said that this season."

by kishi on Oct 5, 2008 1:52 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Man I love this board.

I watched this episode, TODAY! :D

“GET UP! GET UP!”

What a crazy random happenstance!

by mrssoco on Oct 5, 2008 2:00 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Al

has nothing to say.

Bitter? Party of millions? Your date with destiny is ready.

"So Long, and Thanks for all the Fish!"

by unnamedDBacksfan on Oct 5, 2008 2:14 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This Al (from bleedingcubbieblue)

I Have Nothing To Say

Yelloncard_tiny by Al on Oct 4, 2008 10:22 PM MST in News

And when I say “nothing”, I mean it.

I am not opening comments on this post. Eventually, I will post a recap of this utter disaster, but it may take me a day or so. Until then, I want this post to stand alone on the front page as a monument to the worst performance I have seen in 45 years as a Cubs fan.

Good night.
—————————————————————-

Whoa~
The Florida Marlins choke job comes to mind , you know cub fans, the one where you demonize one of your own?

"So Long, and Thanks for all the Fish!"

by unnamedDBacksfan on Oct 5, 2008 2:33 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm reminded of the lyrics fo Avenue Q

A few of the fanpost titles:

“Why, God Why?”
“Should fans take some blame?”
" I just sit here wondering…"
“The umpires sucked”

"Now, this is the dumbest thing I've ever heard [Hank Steinbrenner] say, and this is the third time I've said that this season."

by kishi on Oct 5, 2008 4:03 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

"Cubs ineptitude

is only for now?"

Ah, who are we kidding?

We are gonna get drunk with Adam Dunn and we're gonna head-butt some damn kangaroos.

by soco on Oct 5, 2008 4:05 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

not themselves

At least, not without the help of Captain Morgan.

"Now, this is the dumbest thing I've ever heard [Hank Steinbrenner] say, and this is the third time I've said that this season."

by kishi on Oct 5, 2008 4:07 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Or maybe they are

Comment from another fanpost: “Example of a close to HOF player would be Grace.”

Really? Mark Grace? Hall of Fame? I’m not really sure on that.

"Now, this is the dumbest thing I've ever heard [Hank Steinbrenner] say, and this is the third time I've said that this season."

by kishi on Oct 5, 2008 4:09 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I've already got a sign

made up for the cubbies next visit to Chase.

Let’s just say there’s a very large blue “L” involved.

"So Long, and Thanks for all the Fish!"

by unnamedDBacksfan on Oct 5, 2008 4:25 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If

you were the flag lady, you could get a couple of the L flags and wave them.

We are gonna get drunk with Adam Dunn and we're gonna head-butt some damn kangaroos.

by soco on Oct 5, 2008 10:55 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I agree

he’s borderline, but I doubt he makes it in. Of course, I’m putting the emphasis on “close,” assuming they mean in it in the “not quite” sense, not “almost there” that the poster probably meant it.

We are gonna get drunk with Adam Dunn and we're gonna head-butt some damn kangaroos.

by soco on Oct 5, 2008 10:54 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah,

Mark may be borderline in kind of a political sense (ie he’s well known, well-liked, and will likely benefit from a CHI campaign boost).

But in a substantitive, sabermetric sense (which I realize isnt the only susbstantive case to be made), he’s well below a “borderline” candidate. In the history of the game, there are hundreds of more deserving candidates who’ve been spurned. Literally hundreds.

by Diamondhacks on Oct 5, 2008 3:02 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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