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Is Livan on the Trading Block?

I'm not sure how many of you read Buster Olney's story about Livan Hernandez on the trading block, but I think, knowing the credibility of the writer and the logic of it, that it could be true.

The article is at http://insider.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?entryID=2945149&name=olney_buster

A few thoughts:
-Edgar Gonzalez would presumably join the rotation if Livan is traded until the Big Unit returns, when Bob Melvin would be forced to choose between Gonzalez and Yusmeiro Petit. I would personally go with Petit, because of his recent breakout and Gonzalez's effectiveness in long relief.

-Who would we get in return? I assume it would be a power hitting outfielder rather than a prospect, but maybe Jarrod Saltalamacchia, the young catcher for the Braves, would make sense. I think Pat Burrell would make sense, but I don't think the Phils would trade him.

Tell me what you think.

NOTE: THE FULL ARTICLE IS LOCATED IN THE THIRD COMMENT BELOW.

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Not much to go on...
You have to subscribe to ESPN Insider to get more than the tease of the first sentence, and one suspects there's nothing of real substance. It would make sense, in that Livan is leaving at the end of the season anyway: but would be get much more for him than the draft picks we'll get when he signs elsewhere anyway?

Without info on the interested teams, it's difficult to say what we might get in return, however. A summary I read elsewhere of the Insider content said, "the full article doesn't say anything other than him being a possibility because he doesn't fit our team needs because he gives up more runs than we are currently averaging a game. He asserts that a trade to the Mets would make sense because for one, the flying Hernandez brothers can be pitching on the same team, and they can afford to have a guy that gives up some runs because it better matches their team and their style of play. He also recommends the Braves and the Phillies. Olney also suggests that the price won't be much to get him."

No reason we can't trade a pitcher for a pitcher: that worked out pretty well with the Petit for Julio trade, didn't it? :-) But with Livan not here longterm, it certainly wouldn't harm the team to trade him for an offensive rental, even one that isn't here for more than the next few months. A power-hitting right-fielder? I'd not say no to a corner infielder with pop, even if it added to the logjam: because, at the moment, none of Reynolds, Clark, Jackson or a non-100% fit Tracy are really cutting it.

by Jim McLennan on Jul 23, 2007 12:04 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ken Rosenthal
Says the same thing (that we're shopping Livan), but says teams aren't interested.  I'm not interested in giving Livan away.  If we could get Salty or someone of that caliber, of course I'd be all over that... but that's not the kind of player we'd get for Livan.  Perhaps Burrell, but we're too frugal for that (we'd be taking on a costly contract), and it creates a bigger log jam of OFs.

by johngordonma on Jul 23, 2007 6:40 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Full Article
Sorry, I didn't realize it was an Insider article, so here is the part about Livan:

"Some of the names remain the same in the trade rumor mill: Octavio Dotel, Mark Loretta, Ty Wigginton, Jose Contreras, Jon Rauch. Heard a new and interesting name Saturday.

"Livan Hernandez," said a talent evaluator Saturday evening. "I'm surprised that nobody's talking about him, because he's out there [on the trade market]."

The light bulb goes on: great postseason experience, minimal financial obligation (he's making $7 million this season, and his contract runs out at the end of this year), a guy who has always taken the ball (nine straight seasons of 30 or more starts, and he's got 20 starts so far this year). He is not an ace, he gives up a lot of hits, but he will generally keep a good offensive team in games.

The D-backs are fading, have the minor league arms to take his spot in the rotation for the last two months -- and Livan is not really a good fit for them now, anyway, because he is not a shut-down kind of pitcher and they are struggling to score runs. The cost of trading for Hernandez would presumably not be that high.

He makes a lot of sense for a team like Atlanta, or a team like the Mets (where he could team with his brother, Orlando), or maybe the Phillies, although he would give up a lot of homers in their park."

by LucaMaz3 on Jul 23, 2007 10:23 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Power or Prospects?
I agree that it would be hard to pull off a trade because of the logjam at corner infield and outfield. Also, I realized that Burrell has a full no-trade clause, and I doubt he would come to the desert.

by LucaMaz3 on Jul 23, 2007 10:29 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

burrell?
Burrell? Did you say Burrell? As in Pat? You've offended the honor of The Diamondbacks org, and they've asked me to challenge you to a duel on their behalf. Seriously. Pat Burrell? I just choked on my own swing and miss.

by leemellon on Jul 23, 2007 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed
Haha. I was just saying this as a possibility for a trade, not that I or the Diamondbacks would actually do it. I agree that Burrell is not a high-quality player, and he certainly qualifies as the Picasso of whiff-artists.

by LucaMaz3 on Jul 23, 2007 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well
he would help to move the air around on those days when the roof is closed.

by AZSEAfan on Jul 23, 2007 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The rumor spreads
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PLAYER OF THE DAY LIVAN HERNANDEZ RHP, Arizona Diamondbacks

Jose Contreras might not be the hottest Cuban pitcher on the trade market. According to officials with two different teams, who asked not to be identified because talks are ongoing, the Diamondbacks have been calling around to see how interested teams would be in Hernandez. Arizona is fading in the NL West and is considering dealing Hernandez (the half-brother of Mets pitcher Orlando Hernandez).

The Mets have expressed some interest, as have the Braves and Mariners. Livan Hernandez is not without his flaws. He's already allowed 20 home runs this season in 20 starts. He doesn't throw very hard, and his ERA this year is 4.77. But he is durable. And for a team like the Mets, which has a couple of starters who don't get deep into games consistently, he might make some sense if the price is right. He also might be energized by going to a first-place team and pitching in a pennant race. His history in places like Florida and San Francisco shows he can handle big games.

by Jim McLennan on Jul 23, 2007 7:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Durable
Is 6.1 or so innings per start all it takes to be considered durable these days?

I mean, yeah, DURABLE.  COME GET YOUR LIVAN ON EVERYONE!

¡Viva Los Perritos Calientes!

by nihil67 on Jul 24, 2007 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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