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Gameday Thread, NLCS #3: 10/14 vs. Rockies

Livan Hernandez (32, RHP, 11-11, 4.93)
Josh Fogg (30, RHP, 10-9, 4.94)

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Quote of the Day: "I'm sure you guys are all probably writing us off; I don't blame you," he said. "We haven't done a whole lot to make you guys think we're going to win this series. I think we're a good team. I also don't think the Rockies have outplayed us, because they haven't. Not even close. They've had a little luck go their way. Definitely the ball has bounced in their direction. They've been the beneficiary of some calls." -- Eric Byrnes

And so we move to not-so-sunny Coors, where it's looking pretty miserable as I write these words, going by the Webcam pics. The temperature is currently a frigid 42F - Arizona residents may be entirely unfamiliar with those digits, therefore, as a public service, this Scotsman would like to inform you that it's pretty fricking cold. And it's not going to get any warmer the rest of the night. Hard to say who that's going to effect more, but let's just say - I'm glad I got my NLCS attendance in last night, under the Phoenix skies, wearing a pair of shorts and a T-shirt. It is supposed to be the boys of summer after all.

We just spent the early part of this afternoon watching 11:59, a conspiracy thriller about a TV cameraman who becomes convinced that the media and judicial systems are conspiring to frame an innocent man for political ends. It's pretty good (out now on DVD), but the irony was, seeing the hero drive down a highway and see a sign that said, "Next Exit: Coors Field". Yep, the entire thing was filmed in and around Denver. What are the odds against that? I don't think I've ever seen a movie shot there before, and we find one the day of our first-ever playoff game there? I'm sure it's an omen of some sort: but I just don't know what.

Fighting words from Eric Byrnes above, even if the time is past for that: now, only action will suffice. We've gone from "like to win" to "want to win" to, now, if not quite "must win", then probably "really, really need to win." And who better to turn to in that situation than Livan Hernandez? Er, that's a rhetorical question folks, please do not answer by throwing a copy of the Baseball Almanac for 2007 at me. He is what we have, and does respond well to stress - simply by ignoring it entirely, and throwing the same damn game he always does. Arizona fans should stock up on soft, fluffy objects to throw at the TV, because they'll need them. Kittens, however, are not recommended, since they can cause smearing on larger screens.

That said, here's a somewhat staggering fact for you. Twenty-one pitchers have thrown more than a dozen innings against Colorado this year, including Brad Penny, Jake Peavy, Chris Young, Derek Lowe and Barry Zito: guess who's got the lowest ERA of the lot? Livan Hernandez: a solid 35 innings, giving up only six earned runs for a miserly 1.54 ERA. Admittedly, he only has a 1-0 record in that time, but if the regular-season figures hold up, it might not be the pitching side that's the problem today. Not that the pitching has really been the problem the first two games either: six earned runs in 20 innings is an ERA of 2.70. We'd have settled for that coming in.

No: today, it's the turn of the offense to wake the hell up and put some runs on the board. Clutch hits need to appear, and we need to get contributions from the likes of Reynolds, Young and Jackson, who are a combined 3-for-19 so far. Though a sneak peek at the lineup tells me Jackson is on the bench - since Tony Clark was about our best hitter in Game Two, I can't say that's any surprise. Montero will also be catching, as he always does for Livan, and it looks like Salazar is starting ahead of Upton. We've faced Fogg four times this year, with a credible 2.62 ERA. Taking advantage of walks might be the key, since he gave us 11 free passes in 24 innings.

Of course, this may all turn out to be moot, if the weather performs its worst. I believe, in that eventuality, we will then play tomorrow and Tuesday instead. That could be helpful, giving us a chance to use Webb in Game Four - either a must-win or leveling game, depending on how Game Three goes - on full rest. Admittedly, given how the Rockies have worked him over this season, not least the parade of bloopers, bleeders and seeing-eye singles inflicted in Game One, we might just want to go with Micah Owings in Game Four anyway, and let him take advantage of the Coors Effect, humidor or not.

Will be about for this one, if it happens, though will be multi-tasking since I've got two film reviews to write as well. But my main focus will be on the game, needless to say. If we win this game, we'll be right back in it, since I expected to be 2-1 down after three games anyway. At the moment, the Rockies think they're unstoppable, and it has proved that way so far: denting that feeling of immortality is going to be the first step in resurrecting our series chances. So, let's go D-backs, lift the Fogg early, and get this back to a one-game series.

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I'll be here
The game better be played, 'cause I'm feeling better (stupid stomach flu thing) and I want a good game to be played! :( The boys should listen to me a lot more than they actually do though... the weather gods, well I haven't learned how to get them to respond either.. hm... ::crosses fingers::

by snakecharmer on Oct 14, 2007 7:55 PM EDT   0 recs

Pressure time
Let's get it done, guys!
I'm not superstitious, but I'm a little stitious.

by kishi on Oct 14, 2007 8:01 PM EDT   0 recs

At least
They have the tarp off the field...

[Hmmm... I'm thinking that pic will auto-update each time you refresh the thread. Not sure if that might cause problems: if you, let me know and I can remove the link]

by Jim McLennan on Oct 14, 2007 8:09 PM EDT   0 recs

Yup
It's updating each time.  Kinda cool, though.
I'm not superstitious, but I'm a little stitious.

by kishi on Oct 14, 2007 8:35 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Ditto, it's cool but...
It's stealing bandwidth from the CBS4 website, and knowing how many visits we have a night, I'm not sure they'll appreciate it...

by snakecharmer on Oct 14, 2007 8:40 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

You've got a point
Though the site I got it from was doing it just the same way...

by Jim McLennan on Oct 14, 2007 8:46 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

This is gonna be weird
It's  on UK TV.I will be watching it!
Lucky pasta for tea,red wine drunk,let's go D'Backs!
We will meet in Red 3 at the hour of scampering.

by hotclaws on Oct 14, 2007 8:15 PM EDT   0 recs

A pre-emptive comment
Tony Gwynn: Please shut up.
I'm not superstitious, but I'm a little stitious.

by kishi on Oct 14, 2007 8:30 PM EDT   0 recs

Livo Time...
7-2 in 9 career starts... time to make it 8... a win here and we got some new ground to possibly work with... GO DBACKS!

by dbacksfan55555 on Oct 14, 2007 8:34 PM EDT   0 recs

Here we go
Be nice if Young started off Game 3 like he did against the Cubs...

by Jim McLennan on Oct 14, 2007 8:38 PM EDT   0 recs

The UK TV desk..
..is decorated with the old purple pennent and hat.(told you we have problems buying stuff over her)I've emailed in to complain  BUT they were on the desk when the D'Backs won the World Series ,so I'm taking it as a good omen.
We will meet in Red 3 at the hour of scampering.

by hotclaws on Oct 14, 2007 8:38 PM EDT   0 recs

Ok, I'll settle for that
Now, let's see if Young has his wheels up.

by Jim McLennan on Oct 14, 2007 8:39 PM EDT   0 recs

CY blooper...
good start... time to force the issue and take second?

by dbacksfan55555 on Oct 14, 2007 8:39 PM EDT   0 recs

Hit to start it off
That ball just about died the second it hit the ground.  This isn't going to be a neat game...
I'm not superstitious, but I'm a little stitious.

by kishi on Oct 14, 2007 8:39 PM EDT   0 recs

Dreeeeewwww
We will meet in Red 3 at the hour of scampering.

by hotclaws on Oct 14, 2007 8:39 PM EDT   0 recs

I vaguely recall
Mentioning this, but Drew is allowed to lay off pitches down in the zone. That 0-2 ball was much better.

by Jim McLennan on Oct 14, 2007 8:40 PM EDT   0 recs

Wow
The shot they showed of the dugout really demonstrated how hard its raining.

by Jim McLennan on Oct 14, 2007 8:41 PM EDT   0 recs

And another
Two on to lead it off.  Let's get it going, guys.
I'm not superstitious, but I'm a little stitious.

by kishi on Oct 14, 2007 8:41 PM EDT   0 recs

Oh, look...
They don't like Eric Byrnes. :-)

by Jim McLennan on Oct 14, 2007 8:41 PM EDT   0 recs

Thank you
Thank you,all the gods and goddesses,the bats live!
We will meet in Red 3 at the hour of scampering.

by hotclaws on Oct 14, 2007 8:42 PM EDT   0 recs

Aw, hell
Freak double play.
I'm not superstitious, but I'm a little stitious.

by kishi on Oct 14, 2007 8:42 PM EDT   0 recs

well that sucks...
ironic the Rockies catch the break when Byrnsie is up

by dbacksfan55555 on Oct 14, 2007 8:42 PM EDT   0 recs

Dammit
Another break goes the Rockies way. That should have been an RBI single.

by Jim McLennan on Oct 14, 2007 8:42 PM EDT   0 recs

Really
What are the frickin' odds? Anyone saying the Rockies are not getting lucky is living in the state of Denial, rather than Colorado. :-)

by Jim McLennan on Oct 14, 2007 8:43 PM EDT   0 recs

Frick and double frick!
That had the makings of an inning with run(s) scored.  Damn damn damn!

by TwinnerA on Oct 14, 2007 8:45 PM EDT   0 recs

1 pitch, 1 out
Good start.
I'm not superstitious, but I'm a little stitious.

by kishi on Oct 14, 2007 8:47 PM EDT   0 recs

Not a bad idea
Starting with a bunt. Make Livan field his position with cold hands, but he does his job.

by Jim McLennan on Oct 14, 2007 8:47 PM EDT   0 recs

with the grass at its height
the dbacks might as well play further up

by dbacksfan55555 on Oct 14, 2007 8:48 PM EDT   0 recs

uggg,uggg,ugg
We will meet in Red 3 at the hour of scampering.

by hotclaws on Oct 14, 2007 8:48 PM EDT   0 recs

FUCK

by dbacksfan55555 on Oct 14, 2007 8:48 PM EDT   0 recs

Blah
Note to Byrnes: Keep an eye out for the warning track next time.  You can't catch all of them.
I'm not superstitious, but I'm a little stitious.

by kishi on Oct 14, 2007 8:49 PM EDT   0 recs

Another promising start
Another GGGGRRRRRRR.

by snakecharmer on Oct 14, 2007 8:49 PM EDT   0 recs

Oh, dear
Livan gives up the long-ball, and we fall behind already. At least it was only a solo shot, but we can do without any more hanging breaking balls like that.

by Jim McLennan on Oct 14, 2007 8:49 PM EDT   0 recs

Okay,could be worse
We will meet in Red 3 at the hour of scampering.

by hotclaws on Oct 14, 2007 8:51 PM EDT   0 recs

dammit
Jim we need more power!

by Wimb on Oct 14, 2007 8:51 PM EDT   0 recs

"The engines canna take it Captain"
We will meet in Red 3 at the hour of scampering.

by hotclaws on Oct 14, 2007 8:56 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

K to end the inning
Not too bad, then.  We can get the lead here, let's just keep the bats working.
I'm not superstitious, but I'm a little stitious.

by kishi on Oct 14, 2007 8:51 PM EDT   0 recs

if the dbacks can't get a big inning in the 2nd
then you can kiss any hope of gaining any momentum in this series goodbye

by dbacksfan55555 on Oct 14, 2007 8:52 PM EDT   0 recs

S'ok
Why do I think this won't be a 1-0 game at the end of the night? I'm just hoping we can pull this back before the game becomes official after the fifth.

by Jim McLennan on Oct 14, 2007 8:52 PM EDT   0 recs

Its nice
To be able to watch it on TV for once, and have some UK analysis :)

by Wimb on Oct 14, 2007 8:54 PM EDT   0 recs

Have they
Compared it to rounders yet?

by Jim McLennan on Oct 14, 2007 9:00 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

No! LOLS
We've had baseball on TV over here since the 90's.Josh Chetwin who commentates has played in the Olympics for GB (yes,w have a team)
We will meet in Red 3 at the hour of scampering.

by hotclaws on Oct 14, 2007 9:11 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I just hate
those baseball gods :(

by Wimb on Oct 14, 2007 8:55 PM EDT   0 recs

But I love....
Big Sallyz

by Wimb on Oct 14, 2007 8:57 PM EDT   0 recs

go snakes!!
A visiting Halos fan.

by westcoastbias on Oct 14, 2007 8:57 PM EDT   0 recs

YES
COME ON YOU DBACKS

by Wimb on Oct 14, 2007 8:58 PM EDT   0 recs

HERE WE GO
!

by dbacksfan55555 on Oct 14, 2007 8:58 PM EDT   0 recs

Here we go again...
First two on: men on the corners, no outs. Got to tie this game right here, right now. Chance of a big inning...

by Jim McLennan on Oct 14, 2007 8:58 PM EDT   0 recs

Oops
One out. Pitcher up, so very very important for Ojeda to get the man home, even if it's Livan due up.

by Jim McLennan on Oct 14, 2007 8:59 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Making some noise
Runners at the corners, two outs.  Do it, Augie!
I'm not superstitious, but I'm a little stitious.

by kishi on Oct 14, 2007 8:59 PM EDT   0 recs

I mean
One out.

If you averaged my post with Jim's we were dead on.

I'm not superstitious, but I'm a little stitious.

by kishi on Oct 14, 2007 8:59 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

C'mon littlest ballplayer
We will meet in Red 3 at the hour of scampering.

by hotclaws on Oct 14, 2007 8:59 PM EDT   0 recs

I really really really
fucking hate these fucking rockies

by Wimb on Oct 14, 2007 9:00 PM EDT   0 recs

Augh!
Come on, were either of them on the bag?
I'm not superstitious, but I'm a little stitious.

by kishi on Oct 14, 2007 9:00 PM EDT   0 recs

Really?
I am going to have to look back at that on tape.  Tha vicinity of the bag shit is full of shit.

by TwinnerA on Oct 14, 2007 9:02 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Looked iffy to me
Tulowitzki looked more concerned with the pirouette than touching the base, and Helton was coming off the bag to catch it.  They haven't shown a good replay while I've been watching, so I'm not sure.
I'm not superstitious, but I'm a little stitious.

by kishi on Oct 14, 2007 9:05 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Upon further review
I'm convinced on Tulowitzki, good play.  Not so certain on Helton, but whatever.
I'm not superstitious, but I'm a little stitious.

by kishi on Oct 14, 2007 9:07 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

whats with the fucking double plays
starting to piss me off in this series

by dbacksfan55555 on Oct 14, 2007 9:01 PM EDT   0 recs

I really want to see...
If that was a genuine double-play. We'll have to wait till after the commercials for that, to see if it's another Rockies-friendly umpiring call.

by Jim McLennan on Oct 14, 2007 9:01 PM EDT   0 recs

In slow motion
he is a good 2 feet off the bag

by Adam on Oct 14, 2007 9:11 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Just saw it
again on tv here, looked alright

by Wimb on Oct 14, 2007 9:02 PM EDT   0 recs

Not showing it...
Interesting. Coincidence...or something more suspicious? :-)

by Jim McLennan on Oct 14, 2007 9:04 PM EDT   0 recs

*crash of thunder*
We need more places with plot-reactive weather.
I'm not superstitious, but I'm a little stitious.

by kishi on Oct 14, 2007 9:06 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Pterry?
Uberwald?
We will meet in Red 3 at the hour of scampering.

by hotclaws on Oct 14, 2007 9:12 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Of course!
I'm curious if the decline in plot-reactive weather can be attributed to the rise in Black Ribonners.
I'm not superstitious, but I'm a little stitious.

by kishi on Oct 14, 2007 9:14 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

"I'll drink a nice cup of tea...
... with a bun,bun,bun"
We will meet in Red 3 at the hour of scampering.

by hotclaws on Oct 14, 2007 9:21 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Good point by Bob Brenly
Second-base has been a black hole by us this series.

by Jim McLennan on Oct 14, 2007 9:05 PM EDT   0 recs

you know it's ironic..
we spent so long defending ourselves against statheads and suddenly when we need stats in our favour.....

by Wimb on Oct 14, 2007 9:05 PM EDT   0 recs

GET IN THERE!
good job Livo

by Wimb on Oct 14, 2007 9:06 PM EDT   0 recs

I watched it
Didn't look like he touched at 2nd.  Around the bag but never touched it and then did that turn and threw to first.  If you can get called out for sliding over the bag, why is it considered an out if the fielder doesn't touch the bag?

by TwinnerA on Oct 14, 2007 9:07 PM EDT   0 recs

he definitely touched the bag,
slid over the corner of it

by dbacksfan55555 on Oct 14, 2007 9:08 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Double-play
Was okay. Nicely turned. As they pointed out, Montero was a long, long way off the bag - much further than Upton.

by Jim McLennan on Oct 14, 2007 9:07 PM EDT   0 recs

1-2-3 inning for Livan
We're outhitting the Rockies 4-1, and are trailing. Again. Sigh. :-(

by Jim McLennan on Oct 14, 2007 9:08 PM EDT   0 recs

1-2-3
Other than the mistake last inning, Livan is doing pretty well.
I'm not superstitious, but I'm a little stitious.

by kishi on Oct 14, 2007 9:09 PM EDT   0 recs

Nothing is going our way besides...
Livo looks like he's on top of his game tonight besides that one stupid mistake he made with Holiday which wasn't really his mistake I mean Holiday was way overdue in hittin one out of here so it was goin to come soon it was just a matter of time we have to revive our offense pretty soon or else I might just develop an ulcer or I might break a window or two out of frustration in how this series has gone so far
 Dbacks please score this next inning for the sake of every dback fan in AZ we need to win this game anyway we can!
I'm beggin you!! Do it for Barkley, lol!

by venomous1987 on Oct 14, 2007 9:12 PM EDT   0 recs

Even for fans elsewhere
We will meet in Red 3 at the hour of scampering.

by hotclaws on Oct 14, 2007 9:14 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

longest sentence ever...
i have a barkley jersey btw... ;D
A visiting Halos fan.

by westcoastbias on Oct 14, 2007 9:14 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

No
She'll be up tomorrow - though since the Rockies seem to have St Penelope's boss on their side, I'm not sure whether she'll be much help... :-(

by Jim McLennan on Oct 14, 2007 9:16 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm tired of the whole Team Jesus thing...
but for once it proves useful. ;)
Friendly visiting Rockies fan.

by Silverblood on Oct 14, 2007 9:18 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Walk!
good CY
We will meet in Red 3 at the hour of scampering.

by hotclaws on Oct 14, 2007 9:15 PM EDT   0 recs

Leadoff man aboard again
Walked on four pitches. Hopefully, this will end better than first time around.

by Jim McLennan on Oct 14, 2007 9:15 PM EDT   0 recs

I'm tired of this
Another double play ball...
I'm not superstitious, but I'm a little stitious.

by kishi on Oct 14, 2007 9:15 PM EDT   0 recs

I guess
Now we know how the Cubs fans felt during game three of the last series...
I'm not superstitious, but I'm a little stitious.

by kishi on Oct 14, 2007 9:17 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

ARGHHHHHHHHHHHh
FUdv,. msc.,vlmnc JUST END IT :(

by Wimb on Oct 14, 2007 9:16 PM EDT   0 recs

Okay, not the leadoff man
But it ends exactly the same way. D'you think the Rockies can get nine double-plays this game? The way their luck has been going, they could get two in one inning...

by Jim McLennan on Oct 14, 2007 9:17 PM EDT   0 recs

Can we learn NOT to
hit it on the infield please?? kthx!!

by snakecharmer on Oct 14, 2007 9:17 PM EDT   0 recs

Note to D-Backs
quit hitting the ball right to Matsui inducing a double play.  Anybody anytime please!!

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