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Gameday Thread, #105: 7/31 vs. Cubs

Brandon Webb, RHP (11-4, 2.64)
Mark Prior, RHP (0-4, 6.60)

After all the speculation, ideas, rumours, hopes and fears, there's both good news and bad news at the trade deadline:
Bad: Arizona didn't make any trades
Good: Arizona didn't make any trades

Not with a bang. Not even a whimper. The trade-deadline passed at 1pm today, and Arizona was simply...not involved. Unless the deal has been made, and not announced yet for some reason, in which case I'm about to look very, very foolish... [Actually, since the SportsBlogs network died almost exactly at 1pm, this non-event is probably for the best!]

Shawn Green stays here. Luis Gonzalez stays here. Carlos Quentin will be left picking scraps up from the line-up card. However, Carlos Quentin stays here, as do Drew, Jackson and all our other prospects. And I think some credit is due for that, especially given our situation. 1.5 games off the division lead, in the 'old days', the pressure would doubtless have been on to "win this year", with a trade being made to push Arizona over the top. Instead, we're standing firm: let the cards for 2006 fall where they may [and we still have a 34.9% chance of making the post-season, according to Baseball Prospectus], but we'll be stronger for next year as a result of this restraint.

And just for the record, the final results of the poll, "Which D'back is most likely to be gone by the trade deadline?", were as follows:

  • Shawn Green 47%
  • Luis Gonzalez 14%
  • Eric Byrnes 11%
  • Tony Clark 9%
  • Others 19%
    I know I should have included a "none of the above" selection...

So, we face the baby bears in the Windy City, and got to feel good about this series, since we don't face a single pitcher with a winning record. And particularly about this matchup, as we send our ace to the mound. Though it's true that Webb got a rare loss last time out, mostly because of his usual slow start, the Cubs have not seen his sinker this year, which definitely gives Arizona the advantage.

Meanwhile, the Cubs send out Mark Prior, who has yet to win a game in 2006, though he didn't make his first start of the season until June 18. He's allowed 12 walks in 15 July innings, though given our performance in the Astros series, we'll manage to find a way to make him look like a master of pinpoint control. Sigh... But I'm thinking we'll still come out on top, and gain half a game on the Padres and Reds.

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Trades
Dodgers picked up Julio Lugo. So someone is trying to win it now. Given the market and who we had to trade, I think we did as well as we could. Maybe we can ditch Green as a waiver-deadline trade.

by andrewinnewyork on Jul 31, 2006 4:34 PM EDT reply actions  

And Greg Maddux too.
So the Dodger are suddenly the team to beat in the NL West. Maybe they picked up Green and we don't even know it (they are on the don't-need-permission list, aren't they?)

by andrewinnewyork on Jul 31, 2006 4:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Hang on...
Weren't the Dodgers the team to beat at the start of the season too? :-) I think even with those additions, they'll find it tough: five games back isn't that far, but being in fourth place means you have to rely on slumps from those ahead of you. However, that doesn't seem to be a problem in the NL West this year...

by Jim McLennan on Jul 31, 2006 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Last year, too
Dodgers frequently seem to be the team to beat.  And then the DL beats them...

by kishi on Jul 31, 2006 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not Just Dodgers
San Diego and Colorado made moves today. The Giants picked up Shea eff-inn-Hillinbrand, so there's action. Let me add that I don't think being the team-to-beat in the NL West is worth a sack of balls, but it's interesting to see that we were the only inactive team in the division at the deadline.

Then again, we did make a trade earlier thiss season, and we don't know what the market was. Maybe every time Byrnes was on the phone to someone, the names Drew, Quentin, Young, Upton, and Nippert kept coming up, so he said to hell with it.

by andrewinnewyork on Jul 31, 2006 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really the team to beat?
Nomars on the DL, Maddux has good stuff, and Lugo's been explosive as of late offensively ... But they are still in last place, 5 out in the division, and 5.0 out in Wild Card.  I don't think you can conceede the divsion based on a couple of moves, and that team is still recovering from two years of trying to play moneyball.  I'll eat crow if they take the division, but all they've proved to me right now is that in Southern Californa, young kids get into their farm system, and get traded around.
"Pepper needs new shorts!"

by npineda on Jul 31, 2006 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maddux
Maddux has not pitched all that well his last few starts (really if you look past April, he hasn't been all that impressive). Plus the Diamondbacks have owned him over the years, so I'm not at all unhappy about the prospect of facing him a couple more times this year.

by ASUJon on Jul 31, 2006 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ho hum
Double number 531 for Gonzo with 2 outs

by William K @ AZ Snakepit on Jul 31, 2006 8:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Glad that Green is still around?
Swings at the 1st pitch and gives the D'Backs a 1-0 lead

by William K @ AZ Snakepit on Jul 31, 2006 8:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Sorry I'm late
We've been thrown on the phones again, so I've not been able to pay attention...
  1. E. Byrnes cf .286
  2. C. Tracy 3b .273
  3. L. Gonzalez lf .288
  4. C. Jackson 1b .269
  5. J. Estrada c .318
  6. S. Green rf .294
  7. O. Hudson 2b .272
  8. S. Drew ss .268
  9. B. Webb p .149

by Jim McLennan on Jul 31, 2006 8:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Cubs get the run back...
Three singles, interspersed round three ground outs. Webb has a K and 5 ground-balls thus far.

by Jim McLennan on Jul 31, 2006 8:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Chad Tracy, too
Home run to lead off the third gives us back the lead.

by kishi on Jul 31, 2006 8:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Shawn Green hit by pitch
To load them up for Hudson. Was that a revenge drilling by Prior?

by Jim McLennan on Jul 31, 2006 8:54 PM EDT reply actions  

And another homer
Hudson slams the Cubs to give the D'Backs a 6-1 lead

by William K @ AZ Snakepit on Jul 31, 2006 8:56 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm of mixed emotions
I was raised a Cubs fan, so I feel bad for them.  Prior is certainly living up to his 7.71 ERA.  But, hey, we can always use the runs.  And they traded Maddux to the Dodgers, so I figure I'll skimp on the sympathy today.

by kishi on Jul 31, 2006 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dusty Baker
There was an article in FoxSports that suggested that Baker would be a candidate for the manager job in Arizona (that was before Melvin signed his extension) because he was a former client of Moorad.  I shudder to think what a disaster that could have been....

by William K @ AZ Snakepit on Jul 31, 2006 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Prior = toast
That's another nail in Dusty's coffin. Drew singles to follow up.

by Jim McLennan on Jul 31, 2006 8:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Cubs' turn to get the longball
2-run shot by Aramis makes it a 3-run game

by William K @ AZ Snakepit on Jul 31, 2006 9:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Looks like Estrada has some sort of injury
as Snyder is in the on-deck circle to bat for him

by William K @ AZ Snakepit on Jul 31, 2006 9:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Estrada out with upset stomach
Snyder caught in the bottom of the 4th and he's batting to lead off the 5th

by William K @ AZ Snakepit on Jul 31, 2006 9:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Some confusion here...
According to GameDay "Arizona Diamondbacks catcher Johnny Estrada left the game due to an injured chest." Must have been some upset stomach! :-)

by Jim McLennan on Jul 31, 2006 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Prior's out
and Byrnes greets the lefty reliever Rusch with a solo shot. 7-3 D'Backs, all runs scoring off homers

by William K @ AZ Snakepit on Jul 31, 2006 9:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Byrnes greets Rusch
With a homer. A four-run lead again.

by Jim McLennan on Jul 31, 2006 9:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Another longball by Hudson
This time a 2-run shot batting right-handed out of the stadium.  6 RBIs in the game

by William K @ AZ Snakepit on Jul 31, 2006 10:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Drew follows with his first MLB homer!
D'Backs go into double figures in runs

by William K @ AZ Snakepit on Jul 31, 2006 10:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Drew HR
Well done by Drew. The ball is flying out tonight.

by ASUJon on Jul 31, 2006 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

10 runs
Webb gets run support that Roger Clemens would envy...  ;-)

by kishi on Jul 31, 2006 10:08 PM EDT reply actions  

First time in team history
that the D'Backs have homered 6 times in a game

by William K @ AZ Snakepit on Jul 31, 2006 10:09 PM EDT reply actions  

And still six outs to go...
"Wind: 12 mph, Out to CF."
That'll help. :-)

by Jim McLennan on Jul 31, 2006 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hudson the superman
2 homers, first career grand slam, 6 RBIs and makes 2 double plays

by William K @ AZ Snakepit on Jul 31, 2006 10:17 PM EDT reply actions  

and an error as well, of course
Hey, no one's perfect :)

by William K @ AZ Snakepit on Jul 31, 2006 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hudson in the 7-hole again
Six RBIs tonight and two homers. He's pure gold in that spot, I don't know why. Memo to Melvin: leave him there.

by Jim McLennan on Jul 31, 2006 10:22 PM EDT reply actions  

And if Green walks again
Hudson will be up with the bases-loaded once more... Almost certain to have men in scoring position...

by Jim McLennan on Jul 31, 2006 10:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Hudson up with 2 on
Can he add a 3-run shot to his collection?

by William K @ AZ Snakepit on Jul 31, 2006 10:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Hudson walks
Bases loaded for Drew

by William K @ AZ Snakepit on Jul 31, 2006 10:29 PM EDT reply actions  

C'mon Q!
If anyone can hit it out, he can...

by Jim McLennan on Jul 31, 2006 10:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Quentin does it again
2-run double from the rookie.  3-5, 6 RBIs as a pinch-hitter

by William K @ AZ Snakepit on Jul 31, 2006 10:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh man Ohman
Another 2-run double, this time by Byrnes....15-4 D'Backs

by William K @ AZ Snakepit on Jul 31, 2006 10:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Side note
The Cubs pitchers have thrown 178 pitches so far, and we're not out of the 8th inning yet...

by Jim McLennan on Jul 31, 2006 10:34 PM EDT reply actions  

178 pitches?
In the words of harry, "Holy Cow!"

by unnamedDBacksfan on Aug 1, 2006 5:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think...
Even two innings of The Manatee might be safe at this point. :-)

by Jim McLennan on Jul 31, 2006 10:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Lyon's pitching
taking Gonzo's spot in the lineup as Quentin stays in to play LF.  If Lyon gets through the inning quickly, we might see him at the plate in the 9th.

by William K @ AZ Snakepit on Jul 31, 2006 10:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Great start to the 4-game series
Hopefully the other D'Backs pitchers will follow Webb's lead and keep the ball in the park as much as possible....

by William K @ AZ Snakepit on Jul 31, 2006 11:05 PM EDT reply actions  

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