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Gameday Thread, #77: 6/27 vs Mariners

Gil Meche, RHP (7-4, 3.94)
Enrique Gonzalez, RHP (2-1, 4.65)

The AL West this year has a lot in common with the NL West: coming into today, both divisions were led with a 41-36 record and a 1.5 game lead. Another thing the divisions have in common is, they're both wide often as we approach the half-way point of the season. Four teams in the NL West and three in the AL are within two games of the top. The Mariners have surged in June (16-7), as the Diamondbacks have fallen (7-19), and the first two games in the series have demonstrated this amply.

Pitching would be nice, to try and stop the Mariners from reaching double digits this evening. Our bullpen showing up would be particularly nice, having allowed eleven runs in four innings of work thus far. EnGon got whipped the last time out, enduring the curse of the first, allowing three runs before we came to bat. Five hits in four innings is okay; adding four walks is bad; when two of them come with the bases-loaded, small pets in SnakePit Towers run for cover.

Interesting article on Sports Illustrated about how the meaning behind the US National Anthem has largely been lost through its overuse at sporting events: as the old joke quoted in the piece goes, what's the last two words of the anthem? Play ball! I suspect the author might well come in for some flak for his piece; some will claim, if we don't sing the anthem, then the terrorists will have won. But as a neutral, I agree with his point that it's weird to sing it before during games played by paid professionals of all nations: this isn't the World Cup, after all. And it doesn't help when half the performers appear to treat it like an audition for American Idol.

Last day of voting for the All-Star game today, and so it is for the Diamondbacks All-Star poll found on the right. Though with Webb winless in the past month, and looking increasingly wobbly, maybe his selection is not such a shoo-in as it seemed when the poll was originally started. Since publication on May 29, Webb is winless (0-3) with a mediocre ERA of 4.20. He's still third in the NL for ERA, but starting the game seems unlikely, and even a roster-spot is no longer guaranteed.

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Today's lineup
  1. C. Counsell ss .276
  2. E. Byrnes cf .286
  3. C. Tracy 3b .276
  4. C. Jackson 1b .275
  5. L. Gonzalez lf .257
  6. S. Green rf .299
  7. O. Hudson 2b .261
  8. C. Snyder c .276
  9. E. Gonzalez p .000

Sigh. Counsell still bats leadoff. Why? He should be #8. At best. Indeed, you could turn this order upside-down , and it'd probably be more productive. To prove the point, here is the above order, slots 1-8 reversed, with their June batting averages:

  1. C. Snyder c .321
  2. O. Hudson 2b .318
  3. L. Gonzalez lf .226
  4. C. Jackson 1b .236
  5. C. Tracy 3b .235
  6. S. Green rf .236
  7. E. Byrnes cf .224
  8. C. Counsell ss .217
  9. E. Gonzalez p .000
Spooky, or what?

by Jim McLennan on Jun 29, 2006 9:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

1-out triple by Beltre
and the Mariners threaten in the 1st

by William K on Jun 29, 2006 9:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Beltre scores on an error by Tracy
and Lopez reaches 1st

by William K on Jun 29, 2006 9:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

D'Backs start trailing again
but it's only one run

by William K on Jun 29, 2006 9:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

37-7
According to the TV: that's what we've been outscored by in the first inning since June 5. They also through out a couple other numbers; so far, we have the worst ERA in the first inning of any team in over 30 years, and our run differential this month is -73, worst in the majors.

by Jim McLennan on Jun 29, 2006 9:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

D'Backs threaten to improve the 37-7
as Byrnes hits a 1-out triple

by William K on Jun 29, 2006 9:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Tracy doesn't get it done
with a groundball that doesn't score the run.  Conor up needing a 2-out hit

by William K on Jun 29, 2006 9:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Jackson strikes out
and the D'Backs strand the tying run at 3rd

by William K on Jun 29, 2006 10:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice to see Byrnes
Showing hustle; I hope Estrada was watching. Tracy can't bring him home, but on the plus side for Chad, they've changed the scoring decision from the first inning, calling it a hit rather than an error. That seems pretty questionable to me.

by Jim McLennan on Jun 29, 2006 10:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Good inning for Edgar
1-2-3 goes the Mariners, including Yuliesky Betancourt - who, it appears, will not talk about how he got out of Cuba...

by Jim McLennan on Jun 29, 2006 10:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hmmm, if Enrique pitches well today
maybe the D'Backs could keep both Gonzalezes in the rotation and bump either Vargas or Batista to the bullpen who are really struggling

by William K on Jun 29, 2006 10:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Leadoff double for Green
and the D'Backs have another runner in scoring position

by William K on Jun 29, 2006 10:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Similar results to the 1st
Hudson grounds out and Snyder Ks.  Another runner stranded

by William K on Jun 29, 2006 10:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

No more luck there...
Green can't advance on a ball hit to the shortstop - he had to wait and see if would be caught or not, and Snyder strikes out swinging. 0-for-4 with RISP so far.

by Jim McLennan on Jun 29, 2006 10:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

A walk from Gonzalez
to Beltre, but no other Mariners reach, and it's still a one-run game, in the middle of the third.

by Jim McLennan on Jun 29, 2006 10:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Leadoff single by Enrique
Let's see if the D'Backs can get this runner in

by William K on Jun 29, 2006 10:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Counsell singles on a full-count
2 on and no outs for Byrnes

by William K on Jun 29, 2006 10:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Byrnes fouls a bunt and grounds into DP
Enrique to 3rd but with 2 outs

by William K on Jun 29, 2006 10:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow
Enrique scores when Meche is called for a balk

by William K on Jun 29, 2006 10:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What's with the chopped chin, Chad?
Don' look too coo' no mo'
Ladies and Gentlemen...The Ken Kendrick Karma Kameleon Kangaroo Kourt Karnival Krusade welcomes you to Urine Sample Cup Night!

by suitsmetoATnT on Jun 29, 2006 10:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Didn't change his fishing style
Same ol' same ol'
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by suitsmetoATnT on Jun 29, 2006 10:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

We'll take it....
Meche balks the pitcher home, after getting a double-play off Byrnes and almost escaping, after putting two men on. 0-for-5 with RISP, but the game is still tied.

Yeah, Tracy has joined Gonzo in the clean-shaven club now - though it looks like Luis may be growing his back...

Let's hope EnGon's exertions on the basepaths don't tire him out...

by Jim McLennan on Jun 29, 2006 10:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Estrada could use a shave
Or a drool bucket when he chews...
Ladies and Gentlemen...The Ken Kendrick Karma Kameleon Kangaroo Kourt Karnival Krusade welcomes you to Urine Sample Cup Night!

by suitsmetoATnT on Jun 29, 2006 10:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Sonsex
Really rubbin' it in of late. Bean him.
Ladies and Gentlemen...The Ken Kendrick Karma Kameleon Kangaroo Kourt Karnival Krusade welcomes you to Urine Sample Cup Night!

by suitsmetoATnT on Jun 29, 2006 10:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

No score in the fourth
Gonzo made to look like a rookie by Meche.

On the TV, they're going to be having Josh Byrnes in the booth for the fifth, and asking him viewer questions. If there's anything beyond the obvious (on either side!) I'll post them here.

by Jim McLennan on Jun 29, 2006 10:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Josh going to mention any "moves"?
I'm sure he'll mention them quietly.
Ladies and Gentlemen...The Ken Kendrick Karma Kameleon Kangaroo Kourt Karnival Krusade welcomes you to Urine Sample Cup Night!

by suitsmetoATnT on Jun 29, 2006 10:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Here it is...
"We'll trade anyone."
Ladies and Gentlemen...The Ken Kendrick Karma Kameleon Kangaroo Kourt Karnival Krusade welcomes you to Urine Sample Cup Night!

by suitsmetoATnT on Jun 29, 2006 10:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

So far so good
for Enrique.  2 hits and a run in 5 innings

by William K on Jun 29, 2006 10:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The Who...
...pick up the check.
Ladies and Gentlemen...The Ken Kendrick Karma Kameleon Kangaroo Kourt Karnival Krusade welcomes you to Urine Sample Cup Night!

by suitsmetoATnT on Jun 29, 2006 10:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

EnGon didn't need much help...
One liner straight back to him, a one-hopper and a K. Byrnes has said our main need remains starting pitching, but it's not decided yet whether we'll be buyers or sellers at the trade deadline, but cautions, it might not be what it seems... Hmmmm...

by Jim McLennan on Jun 29, 2006 10:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

1st round supplement pick
RHP Brooks Brown has signed and will be joining the Short Season A Yakima Bears tomorrow

by William K on Jun 29, 2006 10:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Run differential...
Guess his recent evaluation is not favorable, eh?
Ladies and Gentlemen...The Ken Kendrick Karma Kameleon Kangaroo Kourt Karnival Krusade welcomes you to Urine Sample Cup Night!

by suitsmetoATnT on Jun 29, 2006 10:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Most Important Lesson Learned
Don't hang a witch hunt atmosphere on a struggling club.
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by suitsmetoATnT on Jun 29, 2006 10:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Who was the yahoo
with the mustard tie?
Ladies and Gentlemen...The Ken Kendrick Karma Kameleon Kangaroo Kourt Karnival Krusade welcomes you to Urine Sample Cup Night!

by suitsmetoATnT on Jun 29, 2006 10:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hey! "The Incredibles" is on...
Sorry...gotta go get entertained. Besta luck.
Ladies and Gentlemen...The Ken Kendrick Karma Kameleon Kangaroo Kourt Karnival Krusade welcomes you to Urine Sample Cup Night!

by suitsmetoATnT on Jun 29, 2006 11:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Enrique reaches again
This time on a 2-out error

by William K on Jun 29, 2006 11:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Counsell walks
More RISP opportunity for Byrnes

by William K on Jun 29, 2006 11:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It's kinda scary...
Our starting pitcher has scored all of our runs today. I think the stat for this series will compare the production of L.Gonzalez against the two E.Gonzalez's...

by Jim McLennan on Jun 29, 2006 11:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Byrnes swings at the first pitch
and singles.  Enrique scores his 2nd run of the game and the D'Backs inch ahead

by William K on Jun 29, 2006 11:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Tracy pops out
but the D'Backs have the lead.  Let's hope they keep this longer than they did yesterday

by William K on Jun 29, 2006 11:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Comparison as promised
Luis Gonzalez: 1-for-10, 1 run scored
E+E Gonzalez: 2-for-4, 2 runs scored

[Okay, that's selective, since it ignores that LuGon's hit was a three-run jack, but why let that get in the way of some snarkasm...]

by Jim McLennan on Jun 29, 2006 11:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Another 1-2-3 inning by Enrique
He has allowed just a walk and no hits since the 1st inning

by William K on Jun 29, 2006 11:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Green out stealing second
Hmmm... Unconvinced. It's not like the pitcher's spot was up next, we still had Snyder to bat after Hudson.

by Jim McLennan on Jun 29, 2006 11:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

1 out double by Sexson
D'Back-killer Johjima up

by William K on Jun 29, 2006 11:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Johjima walks
Double-play gets Enrique out of the inning

by William K on Jun 29, 2006 11:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

E-Gon
is our hero. remember that.
"very cunning Mr. *VIII*" -- Jim

by Mr. Philosophical on Jun 29, 2006 11:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Enrique gets out of the inning
He strikes out Reed and gets a deep fly ball out from Betancourt.  He's at 100 pitches so we probably will see a pinch-hitter in the bottom of the 7th

by William K on Jun 29, 2006 11:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Andy Green pinch-hitting
Who will pitch the 8th?  Both Lyon, Aquino and Vizcaino have all given up runs recently.

by William K on Jun 29, 2006 11:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Lyon it is
who will set up for Julio

by William K on Jun 29, 2006 11:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

2-out double by Beltre
Tying run on base

by William K on Jun 29, 2006 11:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Lopez lines out to Hudson
And we're headed to the bottom of the 8th with the D'Backs clinging on to a 1-run lead.  Time to score some insurance runs

by William K on Jun 29, 2006 11:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Back after pizza.
Insurance would be welcome...but I've a feeling it'll be Julio with the slenderest of margins.

by Jim McLennan on Jun 29, 2006 11:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

2 on and 2 outs
Back-to-back singles by Tracy and Conor gives Gonzo a chance to bat with RISP

by William K on Jun 29, 2006 11:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Gonzo lines out
Julio will come in to protect a 1-run lead in the 9th

by William K on Jun 29, 2006 11:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Melvin gets tossed
For arguing the home-run call. His third ejection in little more than a week, I think? Hope it goes better than the other two, which we lost...

by Jim McLennan on Jun 30, 2006 12:03 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ibanez homers
and the game is tied

by William K on Jun 30, 2006 12:03 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Uh-oh
I turn it on, it's tied at 2, and Bob Melvin just got tossed.  What happened?

by kishi on Jun 30, 2006 12:03 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh.
Well, thanks for answering me before I asked, guys!

by kishi on Jun 30, 2006 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

1-out triple by Johjima
Bloomquist pinch-running

by William K on Jun 30, 2006 12:07 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Julio Ks Reed
Betancourt up with the pitcher's spot next

by William K on Jun 30, 2006 12:09 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Betancourt hits an RBI single
and the Mariners take a late lead

by William K on Jun 30, 2006 12:10 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Pinch-hitter Petagine walks
and the 9th inning continues with Ichiro

by William K on Jun 30, 2006 12:13 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It's official
The ninth is the new first inning.

by kishi on Jun 30, 2006 12:14 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ichiro flies out to end the inning
But Mariners score 2 runs and the D'Backs are 3 outs away from getting swept

by William K on Jun 30, 2006 12:14 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Green goes down on 3 pitches
2 more outs to go

by William K on Jun 30, 2006 12:17 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hudson strikes out as well
Last out for the D'Backs

by William K on Jun 30, 2006 12:20 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Tying run on base
as DaVanon walks.  Clark, who came in as a defensive replacement in the 9th, is at the plate

by William K on Jun 30, 2006 12:24 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Faaaaaaantastic
Was there anyone surprised when Clark didn't pull through in the clutch?

by kishi on Jun 30, 2006 12:24 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Clark swings at the first pitch
and grounds out to end the game.  D'Backs were 3 outs from the win but will have to wait until they get to Oakland

by William K on Jun 30, 2006 12:25 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That was depressing
Our pitching blows up in three different ways this series: our starter gives up five runs during the first in the opener, our bullpen surrenders seven over two in the middle game, and the sweep is completed when our closer coughs up tying and go-ahead runs in the finale.

by Jim McLennan on Jun 30, 2006 12:30 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

And your gamethread posts are boring as hell.
Sorry, folks, but you've got paid professional HOMERS doing play - by - play ...with VIDEO!...on TV.Why would anyone want to READ a game written by droll amateurs?
  Seattle kicked your ass. So did "The Incredibles".
Ladies and Gentlemen...The Ken Kendrick Karma Kameleon Kangaroo Kourt Karnival Krusade welcomes you to Urine Sample Cup Night!

by suitsmetoATnT on Jun 30, 2006 1:00 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

As a contrast
I just went over to McCovey Chronicles and read the 379 comments in the gameday thread for the last Giants game. Hardly Pulitzer-nominated material there, shall we say. For a non-Giants fan, I found it pretty damn tedious, in fact, though I'm sure Giants' fans like yourself were rolling in the aisles. That's fair enough. Someday, I hope we have enough of a community (or, indeed, enough AZ fans!) to sustain that volume of comments on a regular basis. And it will, I'm sure, remain equally aimed at D'backs fans.

But I think you're mistaking the point of a Gameday Thread: it's not designed for fans of other teams, and is also less for reading and quiet contemplation than participation. If you, or anyone else, thinks of something you feel is interesting to say, POST IT. There's space for all styles: William's play-by-play provides an essential context into which other comments can then fit. A comment like "Awful at-bat by Gonzo. Hacking at pitches out of the strike zone" means much more if you know the pitcher walked the bases loaded.

I appreciate any and all contributions very much. I remember Gameday Threads from just last season when I was the only poster. Or even, if I wasn't around, no comments at all. Especially in the middle of a 3-20 slump, I'm amazed and delighted anyone can muster the enthusiasm to say anything at all!

by Jim McLennan on Jun 30, 2006 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

For what it's worth
The team played much better than they did in the sweep in Tampa Bay.  They might be turning the corner but it's hard to see them winning more than 1 game against that Oakland staff

by William K on Jun 30, 2006 1:05 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Case in point...William K.
Don't know what he does in real life, but he seems to feel that you all need a play - by - play man.
  I suppose, Bill, that the possibility of a no-TV-but-yeah-we're-online family exists, but what are the odds?
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by suitsmetoATnT on Jun 30, 2006 1:06 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I appreciate it
I live outside the Diamondbacks broadcasting radius, and though I do listen to the games online a lot, I sometimes miss stuff.  Like this evening, when I came back from grocery shopping wondering why Melvin had been tossed from the game- William and Jim had filled in the details before I even got to ask.

Not that, you know, it stopped me from asking...

by kishi on Jun 30, 2006 2:12 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And to be fair
Our conversations are a bit more entertaining when the games are.

by kishi on Jun 30, 2006 2:13 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

gamethread posts ?
"Why would anyone want to READ a game written by droll amateurs?"

Ah, cuz it's fun and most of us can't make it to the games, and some of us can't even watch them on TV. So we have this nice little online community where we "watch" the games together.

And having "homers" do play-by-play?  Isn't that par for the course (to mix sports terms) for every team? Whenever I watch the Rockies or the Braves or the Cubs, the announcers are definitely "homers".

Anyway, thanks for hanging out with us for a while.  

4 Corners Fan

by 4CornersFan on Jun 30, 2006 1:13 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ok, admittedly I ain't been around..
  My first experience w/gamethreads was with McCovey Chronicles. I dunno, go take a look (read?) at what their discourse is like during a game, and compare with what you have here...it's like night and day. I don't know, maybe there's an age demographic to figure in...just being observational, but even in a loss (Of which they have many...) they seem to have more fun.
   They crack me up, in fact....and I'm 46.
Ladies and Gentlemen...The Ken Kendrick Karma Kameleon Kangaroo Kourt Karnival Krusade welcomes you to Urine Sample Cup Night!

by suitsmetoATnT on Jun 30, 2006 1:54 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Josh Byrnes' interview
So Jim, did he say anything other than "Stay the course?"

by William K on Jun 30, 2006 1:28 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Jim - if I may -
And feel free to TAKE ME DOWN if I'm wrong, but he said-at least it SOUNDED like he said - they'll trade anyone.
Bill, your play-by-play is truly scintillating.
Reading your posts is just this side of being there.
Ladies and Gentlemen...The Ken Kendrick Karma Kameleon Kangaroo Kourt Karnival Krusade welcomes you to Urine Sample Cup Night!

by suitsmetoATnT on Jun 30, 2006 1:36 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Trade anyone?
The question of players being off the table never really came up. I suspect it was going to be asked, but when the subject of Dontrelle Willis arose, Byrnes made it very clear he couldn't/wouldn't discuss any specific names. There was a chunk of dead air after that, which I suspect was Brennaman tossing out three or four queries on similar topics. Before hand, they said they had nine questions lined up, but didn't ask anything like that many, even though they ended the Q+A well before the end of the inning, and would have had time for more.

by Jim McLennan on Jun 30, 2006 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Play-by-play
If you guys want me to stop, just say so :)
Won't dent my ego one bit

by William K on Jun 30, 2006 1:52 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nobody wants you to stop, sheesh.
And this is only my opinion, I'm SURE, but you guys could loosen up a bit, that's all.
Ladies and Gentlemen...The Ken Kendrick Karma Kameleon Kangaroo Kourt Karnival Krusade welcomes you to Urine Sample Cup Night!

by suitsmetoATnT on Jun 30, 2006 1:56 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Loosening up
Would you have some specifics as to what you'd like to see for posting here?  I'm taking your criticism as constructive, so please let us know what would make this funnier or livelier or whatever.  I'm sure we could all improve with a little work.  

(This is not a sarcastic post, BTW.)

4 Corners Fan

by 4CornersFan on Jun 30, 2006 2:03 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We haven't yet reached the point...
...where the losing has become funny.  Maybe it was the early success, maybe it was suffering through the 51-111 (which seems oh-so-recent now), but it's not there yet.  You can't make the sarcastic derisive comments and at least make the inevitable enjoyable if your heart's not in it.

20 of the last 23 games lost, a questionable-at-best manager, a managing partner throwing his players under the bus, a lackluster effort from the players since the Atlanta sweep, and a variety of gutcheck losses coming in different forms (a sample of which was provided by Jim earlier)...I don't see what there is NOT to be droll about right now.

In my nightmares, I see Brian Bruney...make it stop...

by Azreous on Jun 30, 2006 2:56 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The numb phase
Yeah, we D'Backs fans are going through a "this can't be happening, but we expected it to happen" phase.  And getting swept by AL teams (even middling ones) don't raise the blood as much.  Now if they lose to the Dodgers next week....

by William K on Jun 30, 2006 3:13 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good point
Losing to teams you're not actually competing against - which is, basically, what we've been doing in June (only two losses to division rivals) - is kinda irritating, but doesn't make that much difference. Especially when the rest of the division has been losing with almost equal frequency. The best record in the division this month is only 13-12, and the top two teams at the start of the month (LA and Arizona) are both well below that (10-15, and 7-20 respectively). Annoying as this streak is, it has hardly damaged our chances all that much.

by Jim McLennan on Jun 30, 2006 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They finally notice
The AZ Republic suddenly has a couple of articles on the Sidewinders on their baseball page....

by William K on Jun 30, 2006 5:03 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Bullpen
Help needed. Where is Price?
"very cunning Mr. *VIII*" -- Jim

by Mr. Philosophical on Jun 30, 2006 10:22 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Green
Has anybody else noticed the lack of effort in the field, not that his batting has been suburb lately, by Green. That is Shawn Green. this last week he has been less than average. the corners of our outfield take up more money in our payroll than then the whole infield, including the pitcher, and we are recieving NOTHING.

by trevjohnson on Jun 30, 2006 2:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hard to argue.
If Byrnes could trade them, I suspect Gonzo and Green would both be gone in a heartbeat. However, as a 10/5 player (10 years in the majors, five with the same team), Gonzalez has a full veto over any trade, and we "negotiated" a deal with Green whereby he can only be sent to a tiny number of teams - I think, three - without his consent. Needless to say, that limits the scope for deal-making somewhat.

Both players are barely adequate on defense of late, and Gonzalez is no longer hitting for power - his slugging percentange is just six points above Orlando Hudson's - or average. I think if Scott Hairston hadn't been injured, he'd have been relieving Gonzalez of a good chunk of playing time, but we're apparently reluctant (and I can see why) to pull up the rookies and get their contracts started for half a season.

by Jim McLennan on Jun 30, 2006 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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