Gameday Thread, #77: 6/27 vs Mariners
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The AL West this year has a lot in common with the NL West: coming into today, both divisions were led with a 41-36 record and a 1.5 game lead. Another thing the divisions have in common is, they're both wide often as we approach the half-way point of the season. Four teams in the NL West and three in the AL are within two games of the top. The Mariners have surged in June (16-7), as the Diamondbacks have fallen (7-19), and the first two games in the series have demonstrated this amply.
Pitching would be nice, to try and stop the Mariners from reaching double digits this evening. Our bullpen showing up would be particularly nice, having allowed eleven runs in four innings of work thus far. EnGon got whipped the last time out, enduring the curse of the first, allowing three runs before we came to bat. Five hits in four innings is okay; adding four walks is bad; when two of them come with the bases-loaded, small pets in SnakePit Towers run for cover.
Interesting article on Sports Illustrated about how the meaning behind the US National Anthem has largely been lost through its overuse at sporting events: as the old joke quoted in the piece goes, what's the last two words of the anthem? Play ball! I suspect the author might well come in for some flak for his piece; some will claim, if we don't sing the anthem, then the terrorists will have won. But as a neutral, I agree with his point that it's weird to sing it before during games played by paid professionals of all nations: this isn't the World Cup, after all. And it doesn't help when half the performers appear to treat it like an audition for American Idol.
Last day of voting for the All-Star game today, and so it is for the Diamondbacks All-Star poll found on the right. Though with Webb winless in the past month, and looking increasingly wobbly, maybe his selection is not such a shoo-in as it seemed when the poll was originally started. Since publication on May 29, Webb is winless (0-3) with a mediocre ERA of 4.20. He's still third in the NL for ERA, but starting the game seems unlikely, and even a roster-spot is no longer guaranteed.
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Today's lineup
- C. Counsell ss .276
- E. Byrnes cf .286
- C. Tracy 3b .276
- C. Jackson 1b .275
- L. Gonzalez lf .257
- S. Green rf .299
- O. Hudson 2b .261
- C. Snyder c .276
- E. Gonzalez p .000
Sigh. Counsell still bats leadoff. Why? He should be #8. At best. Indeed, you could turn this order upside-down , and it'd probably be more productive. To prove the point, here is the above order, slots 1-8 reversed, with their June batting averages:
- C. Snyder c .321
- O. Hudson 2b .318
- L. Gonzalez lf .226
- C. Jackson 1b .236
- C. Tracy 3b .235
- S. Green rf .236
- E. Byrnes cf .224
- C. Counsell ss .217
- E. Gonzalez p .000
1-out triple by Beltre
by William K @ AZ Snakepit on Jun 29, 2006 9:46 PM EDT reply actions
Beltre scores on an error by Tracy
by William K @ AZ Snakepit on Jun 29, 2006 9:48 PM EDT reply actions
D'Backs start trailing again
by William K @ AZ Snakepit on Jun 29, 2006 9:51 PM EDT reply actions
37-7
D'Backs threaten to improve the 37-7
by William K @ AZ Snakepit on Jun 29, 2006 9:57 PM EDT reply actions
Tracy doesn't get it done
by William K @ AZ Snakepit on Jun 29, 2006 9:59 PM EDT reply actions
Jackson strikes out
by William K @ AZ Snakepit on Jun 29, 2006 10:02 PM EDT reply actions
Nice to see Byrnes
Good inning for Edgar
Hmmm, if Enrique pitches well today
by William K @ AZ Snakepit on Jun 29, 2006 10:10 PM EDT reply actions
Leadoff double for Green
by William K @ AZ Snakepit on Jun 29, 2006 10:11 PM EDT reply actions
Similar results to the 1st
by William K @ AZ Snakepit on Jun 29, 2006 10:17 PM EDT reply actions
No more luck there...
A walk from Gonzalez
Leadoff single by Enrique
by William K @ AZ Snakepit on Jun 29, 2006 10:28 PM EDT reply actions
Counsell singles on a full-count
by William K @ AZ Snakepit on Jun 29, 2006 10:31 PM EDT reply actions
Byrnes fouls a bunt and grounds into DP
by William K @ AZ Snakepit on Jun 29, 2006 10:33 PM EDT reply actions
Wow
by William K @ AZ Snakepit on Jun 29, 2006 10:35 PM EDT reply actions
What's with the chopped chin, Chad?
by victor frankenstein on Jun 29, 2006 10:35 PM EDT reply actions
Didn't change his fishing style
by victor frankenstein on Jun 29, 2006 10:36 PM EDT reply actions
We'll take it....
Yeah, Tracy has joined Gonzo in the clean-shaven club now - though it looks like Luis may be growing his back...
Let's hope EnGon's exertions on the basepaths don't tire him out...
Estrada could use a shave
by victor frankenstein on Jun 29, 2006 10:39 PM EDT reply actions
Sonsex
by victor frankenstein on Jun 29, 2006 10:41 PM EDT reply actions
No score in the fourth
On the TV, they're going to be having Josh Byrnes in the booth for the fifth, and asking him viewer questions. If there's anything beyond the obvious (on either side!) I'll post them here.
Josh going to mention any "moves"?
by victor frankenstein on Jun 29, 2006 10:53 PM EDT reply actions
Here it is...
by victor frankenstein on Jun 29, 2006 10:54 PM EDT reply actions
So far so good
by William K @ AZ Snakepit on Jun 29, 2006 10:55 PM EDT reply actions
The Who...
by victor frankenstein on Jun 29, 2006 10:55 PM EDT reply actions
EnGon didn't need much help...
1st round supplement pick
by William K @ AZ Snakepit on Jun 29, 2006 10:57 PM EDT reply actions
Run differential...
by victor frankenstein on Jun 29, 2006 10:57 PM EDT reply actions
Most Important Lesson Learned
by victor frankenstein on Jun 29, 2006 10:59 PM EDT reply actions
Who was the yahoo
by victor frankenstein on Jun 29, 2006 10:59 PM EDT reply actions
Hey! "The Incredibles" is on...
by victor frankenstein on Jun 29, 2006 11:01 PM EDT reply actions
Enrique reaches again
by William K @ AZ Snakepit on Jun 29, 2006 11:02 PM EDT reply actions
Counsell walks
by William K @ AZ Snakepit on Jun 29, 2006 11:03 PM EDT reply actions
It's kinda scary...
Byrnes swings at the first pitch
by William K @ AZ Snakepit on Jun 29, 2006 11:05 PM EDT reply actions
Tracy pops out
by William K @ AZ Snakepit on Jun 29, 2006 11:06 PM EDT reply actions
Comparison as promised
E+E Gonzalez: 2-for-4, 2 runs scored
[Okay, that's selective, since it ignores that LuGon's hit was a three-run jack, but why let that get in the way of some snarkasm...]
Another 1-2-3 inning by Enrique
by William K @ AZ Snakepit on Jun 29, 2006 11:13 PM EDT reply actions
Green out stealing second
1 out double by Sexson
by William K @ AZ Snakepit on Jun 29, 2006 11:24 PM EDT reply actions
Johjima walks
by William K @ AZ Snakepit on Jun 29, 2006 11:25 PM EDT reply actions
E-Gon
by Mr. Philosophical on Jun 29, 2006 11:30 PM EDT reply actions
Enrique gets out of the inning
by William K @ AZ Snakepit on Jun 29, 2006 11:31 PM EDT reply actions
Andy Green pinch-hitting
by William K @ AZ Snakepit on Jun 29, 2006 11:35 PM EDT reply actions
Lyon it is
by William K @ AZ Snakepit on Jun 29, 2006 11:39 PM EDT reply actions
2-out double by Beltre
by William K @ AZ Snakepit on Jun 29, 2006 11:44 PM EDT reply actions
Lopez lines out to Hudson
by William K @ AZ Snakepit on Jun 29, 2006 11:48 PM EDT reply actions
Back after pizza.
2 on and 2 outs
by William K @ AZ Snakepit on Jun 29, 2006 11:55 PM EDT reply actions
Gonzo lines out
by William K @ AZ Snakepit on Jun 29, 2006 11:56 PM EDT reply actions
Melvin gets tossed
Ibanez homers
by William K @ AZ Snakepit on Jun 30, 2006 12:03 AM EDT reply actions
Ok, is there a dependable arm left in the bullpen?
by William K @ AZ Snakepit on Jun 30, 2006 12:04 AM EDT reply actions
1-out triple by Johjima
by William K @ AZ Snakepit on Jun 30, 2006 12:07 AM EDT reply actions
Julio Ks Reed
by William K @ AZ Snakepit on Jun 30, 2006 12:09 AM EDT reply actions
Betancourt hits an RBI single
by William K @ AZ Snakepit on Jun 30, 2006 12:10 AM EDT reply actions
Pinch-hitter Petagine walks
by William K @ AZ Snakepit on Jun 30, 2006 12:13 AM EDT reply actions
Ichiro flies out to end the inning
by William K @ AZ Snakepit on Jun 30, 2006 12:14 AM EDT reply actions
Green goes down on 3 pitches
by William K @ AZ Snakepit on Jun 30, 2006 12:17 AM EDT reply actions
Hudson strikes out as well
by William K @ AZ Snakepit on Jun 30, 2006 12:20 AM EDT reply actions
DaVanon pinch-hitting for Snyder
by William K @ AZ Snakepit on Jun 30, 2006 12:20 AM EDT reply actions
Tying run on base
by William K @ AZ Snakepit on Jun 30, 2006 12:24 AM EDT reply actions
Clark swings at the first pitch
by William K @ AZ Snakepit on Jun 30, 2006 12:25 AM EDT reply actions
That was depressing
And your gamethread posts are boring as hell.
Seattle kicked your ass. So did "The Incredibles".
by victor frankenstein on Jun 30, 2006 1:00 AM EDT reply actions
As a contrast
But I think you're mistaking the point of a Gameday Thread: it's not designed for fans of other teams, and is also less for reading and quiet contemplation than participation. If you, or anyone else, thinks of something you feel is interesting to say, POST IT. There's space for all styles: William's play-by-play provides an essential context into which other comments can then fit. A comment like "Awful at-bat by Gonzo. Hacking at pitches out of the strike zone" means much more if you know the pitcher walked the bases loaded.
I appreciate any and all contributions very much. I remember Gameday Threads from just last season when I was the only poster. Or even, if I wasn't around, no comments at all. Especially in the middle of a 3-20 slump, I'm amazed and delighted anyone can muster the enthusiasm to say anything at all!
by Jim McLennan on Jun 30, 2006 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
For what it's worth
by William K @ AZ Snakepit on Jun 30, 2006 1:05 AM EDT reply actions
Case in point...William K.
I suppose, Bill, that the possibility of a no-TV-but-yeah-we're-online family exists, but what are the odds?
by victor frankenstein on Jun 30, 2006 1:06 AM EDT reply actions
I appreciate it
Not that, you know, it stopped me from asking...
gamethread posts ?
Ah, cuz it's fun and most of us can't make it to the games, and some of us can't even watch them on TV. So we have this nice little online community where we "watch" the games together.
And having "homers" do play-by-play? Isn't that par for the course (to mix sports terms) for every team? Whenever I watch the Rockies or the Braves or the Cubs, the announcers are definitely "homers".
Anyway, thanks for hanging out with us for a while.
by 4CornersFan on Jun 30, 2006 1:13 AM EDT reply actions
Ok, admittedly I ain't been around..
They crack me up, in fact....and I'm 46.
by victor frankenstein on Jun 30, 2006 1:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Josh Byrnes' interview
by William K @ AZ Snakepit on Jun 30, 2006 1:28 AM EDT reply actions
Jim - if I may -
Bill, your play-by-play is truly scintillating.
Reading your posts is just this side of being there.
by victor frankenstein on Jun 30, 2006 1:36 AM EDT reply actions
Trade anyone?
by Jim McLennan on Jun 30, 2006 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Play-by-play
Won't dent my ego one bit
by William K @ AZ Snakepit on Jun 30, 2006 1:52 AM EDT reply actions
Nobody wants you to stop, sheesh.
by victor frankenstein on Jun 30, 2006 1:56 AM EDT reply actions
Loosening up
(This is not a sarcastic post, BTW.)
by 4CornersFan on Jun 30, 2006 2:03 AM EDT up reply actions
We haven't yet reached the point...
20 of the last 23 games lost, a questionable-at-best manager, a managing partner throwing his players under the bus, a lackluster effort from the players since the Atlanta sweep, and a variety of gutcheck losses coming in different forms (a sample of which was provided by Jim earlier)...I don't see what there is NOT to be droll about right now.
The numb phase
by William K @ AZ Snakepit on Jun 30, 2006 3:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Good point
by Jim McLennan on Jun 30, 2006 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions
They finally notice
by William K @ AZ Snakepit on Jun 30, 2006 5:03 AM EDT reply actions
Bullpen
by Mr. Philosophical on Jun 30, 2006 10:22 AM EDT reply actions
Green
by trevjohnson on Jun 30, 2006 2:54 PM EDT reply actions
Hard to argue.
Both players are barely adequate on defense of late, and Gonzalez is no longer hitting for power - his slugging percentange is just six points above Orlando Hudson's - or average. I think if Scott Hairston hadn't been injured, he'd have been relieving Gonzalez of a good chunk of playing time, but we're apparently reluctant (and I can see why) to pull up the rookies and get their contracts started for half a season.
by Jim McLennan on Jun 30, 2006 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions

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